Firefly, The Game [GAME OVER]

[Spacedaisy]

Unless [mention]Quin[/mention] would be willing to fix that for us?.

[nutella]

@Spacedaisy when you get a chance could you add sig's iso to the front page? it still just has dom

Unfortunately I can’t do that until I am settled into a hotel for the night because I can’t do it from my phone.

I actually discovered that you can copy the url of someone else's ISO and just replace the username in the url

[Spacedaisy]

@Spacedaisy when you get a chance could you add sig's iso to the front page? it still just has dom

Unfortunately I can’t do that until I am settled into a hotel for the night because I can’t do it from my phone.

I actually discovered that you can copy the url of someone else's ISO and just replace the username in the url

Done

[DharmaHelper]

(Maybe) Parting thoughts for this half of the day:

Firstly I'm super stoked with my crew. Thumbs up.

Secondly, the discussions that are starting to open up are a large improvement from Day 1 and I think we'll catch us a baddie here soon.

[SokothQultuq]

Okay this is maybe the long time since I last played and maybe my own oversight, but I thought with the way the votes were able to be moved during the Day 0 it was allowed just because of the nature of the vote. But I was under the impression once you posted a "Vote" in the Forum it was kind of set in stone. Good to know that's not the case.

[SokothQultuq]

[mention]Spacedaisy[/mention] Are crews allowed to pool the money they have earned in order to make a purchase for the ship, or are we only allowed to purchase items for ourselves? Just want to make sure I understand the money Mechanics.

[Spacedaisy]

@Spacedaisy Are crews allowed to pool the money they have earned in order to make a purchase for the ship, or are we only allowed to purchase items for ourselves? Just want to make sure I understand the money Mechanics.

You all are free to use your money however you want.

[Quin]

do i get money?

i've got pets to feed, you know.

[SokothQultuq]

Did someone say there is a reason DrWilgy has not been around? I've been looking over posts and noticed a lack of activity and I'm just trying to see if I missed something and they are not active for a reason. Looks like their last post was on the 9th?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Okay this is maybe the long time since I last played and maybe my own oversight, but I thought with the way the votes were able to be moved during the Day 0 it was allowed just because of the nature of the vote. But I was under the impression once you posted a "Vote" in the Forum it was kind of set in stone. Good to know that's not the case.

That depends on the game and can be set by the poll maker. It used to be that all games had unchancheable votes, now almost none of them do.

[SokothQultuq]

Okay this is maybe the long time since I last played and maybe my own oversight, but I thought with the way the votes were able to be moved during the Day 0 it was allowed just because of the nature of the vote. But I was under the impression once you posted a "Vote" in the Forum it was kind of set in stone. Good to know that's not the case.

That depends on the game and can be set by the poll maker. It used to be that all games had unchancheable votes, now almost none of them do.

Okay that makes sense. Daisy kind of told me this too so I appreciate the reinforcement.

[nutella]

(Maybe) Parting thoughts for this half of the day:

Firstly I'm super stoked with my crew. Thumbs up.

Secondly, the discussions that are starting to open up are a large improvement from Day 1 and I think we'll catch us a baddie here soon.

Weird that the thread has been pretty much totally dead since this post.

[Kylemii]

@Kylemii Y HELO THAR FRIEND

I have become Khadgar the Nameless. You will address me as such.

how did you come to earn this moniker?

the events that led to me gaining this name were determined a millennia ago, nothing could have stopped them from transpiring (golden named me)

[Kylemii]

i have not been given respite from dealing with the many familiars that haunt my places of wizardly business (and since my last series of catch-up posts), any extraneous hours have been spent recharging my mana. I'll be back around tomorrow at... whatever the wizard way to say 5pm is I guess. sorry these last few days have been kind of awful timing wise. the only real block of time I was able to devote to this game was during the night phase. my work schedule looks a little better later on this week... kinda.

[Kylemii]

I don't know if this has been discussed but I'm curious if anything productive happened in any of the other ships

[Kylemii]

oh actually nevermind there's only 3 new pages since I read last, i can just catch up now

[Kylemii]

speed just has been giving me suuuper funky vibes, not what i usually get from him as town. and kyle needs to be around more

tell my boss to stop giving me weird shifts this week and i will

[Kylemii]

Kylemii is alright on day 0 but pretty much disappears once the actual game begins and puts a throwaway vote on speed because he hasn't caught up and doesn't know what to do. Today says he will review DDL specifically, like he saw that DDL was the main focus of the thread for a bit and figured that was the cool thing to latch onto. Not inspiring

just cus ddl has been a central topic that i don't fully understand for myself. if there's something other people are seeing as being important then i want to pay attention to those things and decide for myself whether or not I agree. cus that's what this game is. where else would i start paying attention but in places that other people have mentioned that seem important?

[Kylemii]

i also want to point out that i haven't been completely absent since day 0, i came to a few positive conclusions during my catch up posts during the night phase.

[Kylemii]

I haven't had a chance to read ddl's iso yet, but i need sleep. I'm also adding speedchuck and nutella to the "list of players i want to read before 7pm tomorrow but realistically I probably won't be able to cus I'll have to prioritize reading up on whomever the fuck has the top 3 most votes when I get off work so I guess I'll probably end up reading them during the night phase or something?" list

[ColinIsCool]

I’m on a little overnight trip so I’m not sure if I’ll be around for large portions of the rest of the day. DDL is probably the vote I can support the most at this point; he feels very, very different as a hunter than I’ve seen in previous games and his reaction under pressure felt way different compared to, say, when I butted heads with him in U-Pick.

The only other thing I have to offer is to lynch someone who hasn’t been around like lap, if we can’t find a wagon anybody truly likes, but (sorry lap)

[Turnip Head]

Kyle's bad y'all. You can't just throw on a wizard hat and pretend that everything's hunky dory

[Kylemii]

Kyle's bad y'all. You can't just throw on a wizard hat and pretend that everything's hunky dory

It's not just a hat, it's who I am, TH.

[Turnip Head]

Ok well can you put the rest of your robes on, maybe stop standing there half-naked in the doorway? I can see your wand

[Spacedaisy]

Ok well can you put the rest of your robes on, maybe stop standing there half-naked in the doorway? I can see your wand

[Lunalee]

Sorry I haven't been as active. I'm going to be around for a bit today.
If anyone would like a position aboard my ship, please let me know! I would be happy to accept.

[Lunalee]

Nah I'm not a traitor. She invited me to her crew.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

I thought you didn't like Mac's lynch?

My dudes, DDL is a bad.

Well, if nothing else, I now have three major suspects: DDL, Luna, and Nova.

INH, what do you think of DDL voting for me now? Since you suspected us both.

[Lunalee]

[mention]Spacedaisy[/mention] I would like to formally remove [mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention] from my crew. (is this how I do it?)

[DharmaHelper]

@Spacedaisy I would like to formally remove @Dragon D. Luffy from my crew. (is this how I do it?)

ABSOLUTE MADNESS

[speedchuck]

Get rekt DDL

[speedchuck]

Uh

I'm feeling really lethargic today.

But I townread

ColinIsCool
DharmaHelper
Glorfindel
Golden
Lunalee
speedchuck

And would prefer we not lynch them.

[speedchuck]

I don't think civilian golden to ignore me this long.

You were one of the unnamed two I was going to offer a job to until you expressly voted with the intent of putting in anyone but me. I noticed and jotted you down. Don't mistake not mentioning you for ignoring you.

In a game of discussion, why not engage me? That seems counter productive my friend.

Why engage you about it? I very much doubt I would have changed your mind.

It looked to me like a very deliberate ploy to get me to come at you. I didn't want to bite, I wanted to watch.

Let me ask you a question. Kyle asked me my logic for the people named on my crew and I said one of the two factors was picking people who often get mislynched early. You fit this category perfectly. Why didn't you blink at that?

I didn't think that I get myslynched early often enough nor do I care when that happens.

I don't believe you, nor do I think that this is the Golden who has collaborated with me to solve games. I really think you could've changed my mind. You've done so before and I'm unsure what warrants you to believe otherwise.

This is Wilgy's only weird post. But maybe I feel that way because I've personally seen to like, two of those mislynches.

The Golden part isn't that bad. I feel like the two are just operating on different wavelengths.
[mention]Epignosis[/mention] Can I get a ten-word-or-so reasoning behind your vote?

[speedchuck]

Owner has vanished. Was she active in night chat?

[speedchuck]

[mention]insertnamehere[/mention]

The following is just a bunch of observations I made at night.

*****

How about Sokoth dude?
I just glanced over his ISO, and I still have a bad vibe about him. His contributive posts have been so far riddled with some good old fence-sitting. He went on about not liking the talks about Glorf, but ended up saying that he's someone we should look after.
Same thing about the Golden/I thing. Liking both posts, and feigning interest with a generic response to what could have been my motivation to not break the tie between Glorf/Golden.

...
Are you down for a CFD on Luna or not?

....
I'm already there. This was an alternative because so far only 3 of us are down for Luna but we need 6 to offset the lynch. (maybe 5 if a voter switch).

Just a note as to where we are with these quotes. The Luna lynch is near impossible at this point in thread.

NO. Don't lynch me. I'm town. I don't like people who try to push last minute lynch shifts. It usually ends in town getting lynched.

Please explain why you think Mac is bad and Golden is good. That'd be more helpful, proactive, and productive instead of not addressing anything I said and just yelling "I'M A TOWNIE!"

Has INH played with Luna? Has he not noticed that Luna has been missing half the day? Are there not MANY other non-proactive players?

DDL, switch your vote to Luna. Follow your heart, your gut, and your soul instead of giving some BS chain-of-command cop-out. You're made of sterner stuff than that, aren't you?

Yeah, this is some cool reasoning.

NO. Don't lynch me. I'm town. I don't like people who try to push last minute lynch shifts. It usually ends in town getting lynched.

Please explain why you think Mac is bad and Golden is good. That'd be more helpful, proactive, and productive instead of not addressing anything I said and just yelling "I'M A TOWNIE!"

Cool, I'll address all of your questions if I have more than 10 minutes to do so.

I realize that you don't have a lot of time to respond, but you also have to realize why I'm not at all convinced by your responses.

@insertnamehere No traction on Luna, and DDL disappeared. SokothQultuq it is!
We'll need only two since TH is already there.

I said it before, I'm only voting for one of two people today: you or Luna.
[VOTE: Novaselinenever] aubergine

No further reasoning required. Sounds principled I guess. False binary a little bit?

Nah I'm not a traitor. She invited me to her crew.
[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

inb4 me using walter white gifs represents my subliminal baddie psychology

I mean, he said it, not me.

Nah I'm not a traitor. She invited me to her crew.
[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

I thought you didn't like Mac's lynch?

My dudes, DDL is a bad.

Well, if nothing else, I now have three major suspects: DDL, Luna, and Nova.

Setting up everything for tomorrow so that he can jump back in and pursue. Also why was he trying to use two of his scumspects to lynch another? You'd think he wouldn't join Nova's wagon if suspicious of him.

If I were mafia, my posts would look a lot nicer. When I'm town, I'm not as careful and end up looking suspicious. I thought you knew that by now. I'm still addressing your earlier post.

So, if you look suspicious, that means you're town, and if you look nice, that means you're mafia?
Nope, not buying this at all.

Yeah, no player ever plays like that what even.

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Let's go back and look at INH's initial post.

Captains:

If one member of your squad is mafia, who is it and why?

I guess I'll do what Golden did and tell you why each might be mafia because I can't really honestly pinpoint one as being mafia over any of the rest.

Enri - Hedging his bets when he weighs in on discussions in the thread
Mac - Has been present but hasn't contributed much if anything to the actual hunting of mafia.
Owner - A lot of her suspicions a few pages back were basically defensive responses on behalf of other players, which I found odd.
INH - Haven't seen him much in-thread. Low profile shit.
Soq -Buddy Buddy for the Yucks

If anyone on DH's crew feels personally victimized, you are welcome to jump ship and come join the Bonanza. We get along. At least until our mission is done.

What are your responses to Epi's question, Luna? You cast shade against DH for his honesty, while you've been apprehensive to discuss any of your crewmates.

Perusing your ISO, you have some weird shit in there.

I see no way that Golden isn't town in this game. So why is MacDougall and DrWilgy voting to lynch him? Not a good look for either of them.

This was followed by a vote against Mac that jump-started his wagon, but seems utterly asinine. Just, Golden = definitely town, and therefore Mac must be lynched. Dumb. Yes, I agree that Golden reads civ, but, as I said, I think that due to his strong responses to Nova. From the following post, I assume Luna read maybe five words of that conversation.

Would Golden and Nova state the case against each other in like, ten words or less? I drown when I look at that argument chain.

My current take:
Golden - "Nova's captain votes are weird and probably bad"
Nova - "Nu uh they normal and you are bad for your fake accusation"
Golden - "Man, what an overreaction. Calling it scum"
Nova - "Town Golden wouldn't have a case this bad"

Is that anywhere close?

Thank you for that summary. I don't like reading novels in mafia threads.

So yeah, that's Luna so far. Empty buddying propping up easy lynch-wagons. I voted for Luna to be a captain, because I thought I'd be able to read her pretty well, and that her reactions would be especially revealing. Nearing the end of Day 1, I'm leaning towards her being scum.

The list of people I'd be happy voting for today now consists of Nova and Luna.

Dunno what his opinion on Nova is, other than that it is consistent.

Is INH being real here, or is this him trying to look like he hates the Macdougall lynch? Because IMO Luna is playing to her usual meta, and INH is all like "WHAT IS THIS?" after having voted her as captain because she's "easy to read."
And then the nova vote keeps hanging around as a side option. Distancing?

I'm not adding much to his posts. What do you guys think of INH, and specifically his last minute push (which contains 50% of his posts)?

[speedchuck]

And as a last note, [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine [mention]Marmot[/mention]

I'll maybe jump in later and actually clarify and center my thoughts, because right now I'm atizzle.

[Spacedaisy]

@Spacedaisy I would like to formally remove @Dragon D. Luffy from my crew. (is this how I do it?)

I’ll accept it since you @ mentioned me.

DDL has been fired from Bonanza’s crew.

[Lunalee]

Reason I'm evicting DDL from my ship:
Day 0 he looked suspicious by calling out Enrique and nutella for giving off "bad vibes".
Was convinced I was Civ on Day 0, but has since joined my lynch wagon because it's all too easy.
Claims not to care if he gets lynched on day 1. Reads more like a "Hail Mary"
Finishing my review of DDL's posts, I get an overall feeling that he's trying to look good, and go after anyone who does something that looks bad, MacDougall, Enrique, and myself. If I were smarter, I would have started the MacDougall vote as a "scum trap." But in reality, it was a case that I didn't think through enough. I would like to go back and look at everyone who eagerly jumped on it though.

[VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine

[Turnip Head]

Damn that's cold

[Turnip Head]

I suspect Luna more than I suspect Luffy. I'm not really sus of DDL at all

[insertnamehere]

Nah I'm not a traitor. She invited me to her crew.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

I thought you didn't like Mac's lynch?

My dudes, DDL is a bad.

Well, if nothing else, I now have three major suspects: DDL, Luna, and Nova.

INH, what do you think of DDL voting for me now? Since you suspected us both.

I'm considering if both of you are teammates, based on how DDL said he suspected you in the thread on Day 1, but then claimed he couldn't vote for you, but now you both seem to be happy to try and lynch each other. Mayhaps a mutual decision to bus was made in the baddie chatroom during Night 1?

I'm guessing that this question is an attempt to make me back down on one of you because as you seem to be implying "you both can't be bad." To which I call poppycock.

[Epignosis]

I hope DDL never gets asked in a job interview, "Have you ever been fired from an imaginary space ship on the Internet?"

Because then his chances would be in serious jeopardy.

[Epignosis]

I don't think DrWilgy genuinely suspected Golden. His exchanges with Golden look contrived.

[insertnamehere]

searching through the bland negative reactions for stuff I can actually respond to.

Has INH played with Luna? Has he not noticed that Luna has been missing half the day? Are there not MANY other non-proactive players?

Luna was the one who started the lynch wagon on Mac using paper-thin reasoning. Plus, she's a captain. Both of those are sufficent reasons to focus on her IMO.

@insertnamehere No traction on Luna, and DDL disappeared. SokothQultuq it is!
We'll need only two since TH is already there.

I said it before, I'm only voting for one of two people today: you or Luna.
[VOTE: Novaselinenever] aubergine

No further reasoning required. Sounds principled I guess. False binary a little bit?

Would you rather I vote for someone I didn't suspect? I posted my reasoning for why I suspected both of them, and you seem to have ignored it in order to paint me as inconsistent.

Well, if nothing else, I now have three major suspects: DDL, Luna, and Nova.

Setting up everything for tomorrow so that he can jump back in and pursue. Also why was he trying to use two of his scumspects to lynch another? You'd think he wouldn't join Nova's wagon if suspicious of him.

Fucking with people you suspect and seeing how they react, especially when you try and turn them against other players that you suspect is a valid strategy. Also, apologies for clearly stating who I suspect.

If I were mafia, my posts would look a lot nicer. When I'm town, I'm not as careful and end up looking suspicious. I thought you knew that by now. I'm still addressing your earlier post.

So, if you look suspicious, that means you're town, and if you look nice, that means you're mafia?
Nope, not buying this at all.

Yeah, no player ever plays like that what even.

They don't.

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Dunno what his opinion on Nova is, other than that it is consistent.

I think he's suspicious. I'm interested in how he reacts to other players I find suspicious. Not sure how you could miss this opinion, given that you criticized me for clearly stating people I suspect (of which Nova was one) in order to "set everything up to pursue."

Is INH being real here, or is this him trying to look like he hates the Macdougall lynch? Because IMO Luna is playing to her usual meta, and INH is all like "WHAT IS THIS?" after having voted her as captain because she's "easy to read."

I legitimately disliked the Mac lynch. Shit was weak, and it hurt my team drastically. The Luna push was an attempt to save Mac, while also testing Nova and DDL to see how they'd react.

Speed, you keep defending Luna with the same bland-ass statements saying that she's "playing to her usual meta," and smearing me for not reading her civ. You haven't actually commented on my case against her. You keep dodging the details, refusing to say why and how she's "playing to her meta." Shit's weird.

And then the nova vote keeps hanging around as a side option. Distancing?

this player has more than one suspect, but he wants to lynch one of them before the other one, because he thinks that one is more suspicious. totally has to be distancing, can't be anything else.

this case is like flavorless expired tofu

[insertnamehere]

Rainbow list of those on the poll:

Glorfindel - Town read
Golden - Town read
SokothQultuq - Town lean, mainly based on tone
Kylemii - Town lean, mainly based on tone
lapluie - Feel vaguely okay about
Turnip Head - Feel vaguely okay about
DFaraday - Don't know what to think
Marmot - Don't know what to think
DrWilgy - Don't know what to think
speedchuck - Don't know what to think
Dragon D. Luffy - Scum lean, but not super convinced
Lunalee - Scum read

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Welp guys I need a new crew. Any offers?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I don't promise I won't vote for you, but I promise I won't act behind your back (unless I have confirmation that you're bad).

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I mean if you own a crew and you are not bad and you care enough about winning this game that you don't mind me seeing scumhunting crew members, it's a pretty good offer.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I'm considering if both of you are teammates, based on how DDL said he suspected you in the thread on Day 1, but then claimed he couldn't vote for you, but now you both seem to be happy to try and lynch each other. Mayhaps a mutual decision to bus was made in the baddie chatroom during Night 1?

I'm guessing that this question is an attempt to make me back down on one of you because as you seem to be implying "you both can't be bad." To which I call poppycock.

What happened is that I decided against lynching her on day 1 even though I suspected her, as a retribution for her including me in her crew when nobody did.

But I'm not about to jeopardize the civilian wincon indiefinitely because of that. One day is enough.

[Lunalee]

Nah I'm not a traitor. She invited me to her crew.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

I thought you didn't like Mac's lynch?

My dudes, DDL is a bad.

Well, if nothing else, I now have three major suspects: DDL, Luna, and Nova.

INH, what do you think of DDL voting for me now? Since you suspected us both.

I'm considering if both of you are teammates, based on how DDL said he suspected you in the thread on Day 1, but then claimed he couldn't vote for you, but now you both seem to be happy to try and lynch each other. Mayhaps a mutual decision to bus was made in the baddie chatroom during Night 1?

I'm guessing that this question is an attempt to make me back down on one of you because as you seem to be implying "you both can't be bad." To which I call poppycock.

Lol INH, you are putting way too much thought into this. But I'm pretty sure DDL is scum now, so thanks for your help there.

[nutella]

Yeaaaahhhh [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

That INH "case" is so beyond fake