WWE MAFIA - Day 14

[DFaraday]

I did think she was civ, though. Read her posts since Daisy died, and I think there is some clarity there.

I thought she was civ, but I thought the baddies would leave her be a while since she was getting a lot of grief in the thread. I figured they'd go for someone a little more under the radar.

DP finally stuck his neck in here, but there's the WOG situation.

@ Host - what is your policy on (extremely) inactive players?

They can be punished at my discretion. My discretion has not been reached yet.

[S~V~S]

I did think she was civ, though. Read her posts since Daisy died, and I think there is some clarity there.

I thought she was civ, but I thought the baddies would leave her be a while since she was getting a lot of grief in the thread. I figured they'd go for someone a little more under the radar.

DP finally stuck his neck in here, but there's the WOG situation.

@ Host - what is your policy on (extremely) inactive players?

They can be punished at my discretion. My discretion has not been reached yet.

Faraday is one of the most zen people i have encountered in mafia, so you could have knocked me over with a feather when he posted a game for Professional Wrestling, lol. I never would have guessed

[DFaraday]

Faraday is one of the most zen people i have encountered in mafia, so you could have knocked me over with a feather when he posted a game for Professional Wrestling, lol. I never would have guessed

I love theatricality, and what is wrestling if not theatricality?

[Epignosis]

I just had a sudden change in the feeling in my gut... And it's a strong feeling, too.
I'm going with it.



I encourage everyone to look past what's happening in thread.

Bye now.

Why did you have this change of feeling?

Because he wants you to vote for me.

"Look past what's happening in the thread?"

That's vague enough that he can decide what it means later.

[Epignosis]

I am fine being lynched. Go for it. Then you will know who I am and, if he's still around later on, the Undertaker can bring me back if he's cool with it.

But I know The Corporation knows who I am. That's why they're okay leaving me alive. Think about it.

[Captain Bunny Killer]

Well then, yes, I have a fixed power. Does that really settle it for you?

[S~V~S]

No, but I appreciate the direct answer

[Mongoose]

Mongoose, My response was to Epi's response to me.

Linki: <insertmiddlefingerhere>

DEVonshire Pudding (British James tells me this isn't a real thing): I was referring to your high-five banter with Sorsha.

[Epignosis]

Knowing my role, Devin is a shit. Others voted for him, like Elohcin.

[Captain Bunny Killer]

Just for clarity, was that directed at Devin, or are you trying to say something about him?

[Draconus]

I was still at work and needed to be clear and concise with my thoughts as I didn't want to be there past 8:30 pm
Vague is not how I would have described it, though. And now that I have time before bed, here ya' go:

Think about it... I'm telling everyone to look past what is happening in the thread. I see an enticing dance going on in thread between 2 well respected individuals in the mafia world and their pawn. Still too vague for you? I believe you and SVS are on a team. That is a powerful combination right there. And it's been very effective so far. You, Epi, being the far more manipulative player in the thread have performed a very effective song and dance. 'I'm clearly a civ, idiot. But I don't care what you do. You'll see.' This is a very effective tactic because of it's intimidation factor. While not being used to this extreme, the principal is still there.
SVS has been less successful in getting people to follow her. The fact that I haven't been lynched yet shows this. But that doesn't make her a baddie. Urgh... I attempted to do a reread on SVS but I don't have the energy for it right now. Part of it may be that she won't let go of me, but I definitely feel she is a baddie-mcbaddie doing nothing but dirty deeds with Epi.

That being said I think she is right about CBK being Indi. But I can at least win with an Indi, right?

Linki: On a personal level, Epi, I don't appreciate being called a shit. I'm trying to participate and you call me a shit? You seem upset that I am calling you out. Did I strike a nerve?

To All:
If you don't like my style or how I build cases and you can't respond to them in a friendly or intellectual way... GO FUCK YOURSELF.

This is why I disappear occasionally

[Epignosis]

Yeah, being called "a shit" is substantially different than being called "THE shit." I apologize.

Funny, this language we share.

[Mongoose]

Just for clarity, was that directed at Devin, or are you trying to say something about him?

Sorry! I am being increasingly (yet inadvertently) obtuse. I was just commenting back to Devin. I have nothing bad to say about him currently.

[Captain Bunny Killer]

Just for clarity, was that directed at Devin, or are you trying to say something about him?

Sorry! I am being increasingly (yet inadvertently) obtuse. I was just commenting back to Devin. I have nothing bad to say about him currently.

Woops. I should have quoted. I was asking Epi, whose comment I found really unclear. I don't even know what you said.

[Mongoose]

Just for clarity, was that directed at Devin, or are you trying to say something about him?

Sorry! I am being increasingly (yet inadvertently) obtuse. I was just commenting back to Devin. I have nothing bad to say about him currently.

Woops. I should have quoted. I was asking Epi, whose comment I found really unclear. I don't even know what you said.

Oh okay! I was just telling Devin that I found Sorsha's reply to him about his high-five a little odd (he sent it her way since they both survived attempts on their lives) but I am assuming she was just joshin'.

[bea]

RIP TH, Lou and Lizzy.

I don't have the crud. I have The Crud Part 2: Revenge of the Crud. I'm caught up and watching when I can, but honestly the 20 minutes it took me to read this far is the most I've sat up all day. had to call off work tomorrow. Sucks. First time I've called off in a good 6 years. I need more meds - I need more sleep. I'm sorry I'm the suck this game.

[Mister Rearranger]

Underoos, stop being a dink and rezz me.

[S~V~S]

@Devin...successful in getting people to follow me? You're still here aren't you?

[S~V~S]

NVM just woke up, I misread, Lol. And I like your style, I tend to do text without a lot of quotes too.

And an indi is one thing, an Indy who steals kills and kills civvies with them is another .

[Hedgeowl]

Underoos, stop being a dink and rezz me.

NO ME! Go big or go home.

[Mongoose]

Underoos, stop being a dink and rezz me.

NO ME! Go big or go home.

I can't believe we didn't overlap at all this game.

[Hedgeowl]

Underoos, stop being a dink and rezz me.

NO ME! Go big or go home.

I can't believe we didn't overlap at all this game.

same here.

[bea]

So, there were about 20 pages in the middle that I never did get read, I ask you fellow players - did WOG post once even during them? Is this his/her first game?

The reason I'm asking is because I'm starting to wonder if perhaps WOG is on a team and his/her teammates are being allowed to send in the night actions, hence the lack of replacement.

Glad to see that DP has come back to the game - what's going on in your hed there mr. DP? - would love to hear your thoughts on things as well.

crud 2: revenge of the crud update: My brain feels mostly better, I'm pretty congested still and I have no voice (trying to deal with my car insurance people over the phone was a blast with no voice btw) - still hurts to breath or to try to expell anything in my lungs. Srrsly - feels like I was laying on the ground and someone kicked the shit out of my sides and stomach. I hope I get somewhere by tomorrow night, because I HAVE to go back to work!

[Mongoose]

Bea - WOG has not posted once since the game left signups. Not one time.

The same thing happened with Super Meat Boy. She signed up, but then never posted once the game became active.


Feel better, bea!

[Mongoose]

SVS - I know you don't like lynching LPs generally (or maybe always). What do you think we should do (if anything) about WOG's absence since her mod-death is not imminent?

Is there a way that someone can poke her (in a non-BTSCy way) to sorta say "Um hey, the game is on!" or maybe by a non-player?

[bea]

Bea - WOG has not posted once since the game left signups. Not one time.

The same thing happened with Super Meat Boy. She signed up, but then never posted once the game became active.


Feel better, bea!

goosey - was she civ or baddie in super- meat boy? What I'm saying, is should this be concerning me as much as it is? The part that gets me is if WOG hasn't posted once in the game, why did I replace in Summer's role and not hers then? Has she been making the votes and I've just not noticed? (thank you for the gender clarification, I know I read it at least once and forgot it at least as many times)

And thanks for the feel betters, I'm doing much better than I was yesterday or the day before. Hopefully by tomorrow I have a voice again

linki- yes - I agree goosey.

[Mongoose]

Bea - WOG has not posted once since the game left signups. Not one time.

The same thing happened with Super Meat Boy. She signed up, but then never posted once the game became active.


Feel better, bea!

goosey - was she civ or baddie in super- meat boy? What I'm saying, is should this be concerning me as much as it is? The part that gets me is if WOG hasn't posted once in the game, why did I replace in Summer's role and not hers then? Has she been making the votes and I've just not noticed? (thank you for the gender clarification, I know I read it at least once and forgot it at least as many times)

And thanks for the feel betters, I'm doing much better than I was yesterday or the day before. Hopefully by tomorrow I have a voice again

linki- yes - I agree goosey.

WOG ended up being good in Super Meat Boy. Mister Rearranger replaced her early on after it became apparent we would see hide nor hair of her. So yeah, that's a problem because this is her pattern of behavior now, signing up and then not playing and thus entirely non-indicative of alignment.

[Mongoose]

But before we get bogged down with that, who else deserves the all-seeing Eye of Sauron today?

[bea]

I have no real feel at all for dex, vompi, bass, or matty.

I get what svs is saying about CBK probably being an indi would make some sense to me as to why I couldn't quite come to a decision on her the first time she was up for a lynch.

[Mongoose]

It's Wild Card City.

[bea]

It is really -

I went back and looked at all of Bass's posts. I'd quote them, but there's 2 pages of them and really, that just sounds like too much work for me. In general though I get the feeling that he's a newer player trying to grasp the game. He seems a little quiet, but he does seem to be trying. I think I'm moving him off my list for now.

I'm going to take a look at Dex next then I need to grab some more soup and rest a bit.

[Bass_the_Clever]

I think the case on CBK could be real dangerous if in fact she is Eddie G because she knows who to target to get off the poll and knows who to target to get a kill.

Also with all these people who have survived kills makes me wonder which ones are good and which ones are bad or indie.

I def need to go back and read over a few people now but I'm leaning towards voting CBK at this point.

[Bass_the_Clever]

It is really -

I went back and looked at all of Bass's posts. I'd quote them, but there's 2 pages of them and really, that just sounds like too much work for me. In general though I get the feeling that he's a newer player trying to grasp the game. He seems a little quiet, but he does seem to be trying. I think I'm moving him off my list for now.

I'm going to take a look at Dex next then I need to grab some more soup and rest a bit.

lol how could you tell? This is only my third game ever.

[Mongoose]

I'm going to reread CBK to connect with her possible serial killer roots.

[Bass_the_Clever]

I was still at work and needed to be clear and concise with my thoughts as I didn't want to be there past 8:30 pm
Vague is not how I would have described it, though. And now that I have time before bed, here ya' go:

Think about it... I'm telling everyone to look past what is happening in the thread. I see an enticing dance going on in thread between 2 well respected individuals in the mafia world and their pawn. Still too vague for you? I believe you and SVS are on a team. That is a powerful combination right there. And it's been very effective so far. You, Epi, being the far more manipulative player in the thread have performed a very effective song and dance. 'I'm clearly a civ, idiot. But I don't care what you do. You'll see.' This is a very effective tactic because of it's intimidation factor. While not being used to this extreme, the principal is still there.
SVS has been less successful in getting people to follow her. The fact that I haven't been lynched yet shows this. But that doesn't make her a baddie. Urgh... I attempted to do a reread on SVS but I don't have the energy for it right now. Part of it may be that she won't let go of me, but I definitely feel she is a baddie-mcbaddie doing nothing but dirty deeds with Epi.

That being said I think she is right about CBK being Indi. But I can at least win with an Indi, right?

Linki: On a personal level, Epi, I don't appreciate being called a shit. I'm trying to participate and you call me a shit? You seem upset that I am calling you out. Did I strike a nerve?

To All:
If you don't like my style or how I build cases and you can't respond to them in a friendly or intellectual way... GO FUCK YOURSELF.

This is why I disappear occasionally

Is this just a gut feeling or is there stuff in the thread that i missed that connects the two of them?

[bea]

Sorry I missed the votes guys, I'm here! Yay game

I agree on the mongoose suspicion,

Votes

Poor trish

Rip mongoose

Not much here - a yay game - a follow along vote then a remorseful post at the wrong results. Lots of people made that mistake.

Rip mata, it's always fun playing you x.

So bulls not dead, interesting but good your still in the game

again - not much here.

I'm starting to feel much better about Ksite and how often we lynch townies, It's not any better here.

K4J was very sure about his vote for Summer. Why was no one trying to get to to the bottom of that? For all we know, he could be dead next night, even if Summer isn't scum (with someone wanting to frame her), so we might get nothing from him. I know it's easy to say it now, since I wasn't here to do it myself, but I'd expect people to try and understand a little what he was saying.

I didn't like the way SVS talked about Mongoose and the fiasco with the two games. It was pretty obvious that the whole things was a mistake and it seemed like she was using it as an excuse to suspect her.


Of all the votes yesterday, both for and against mongoose, the one who tweaked me the most was Devin; he sounded like he was absolutely fawning on Epi, then he voted before Epi did? There have been a lot of things going on in this thread, and maybe we can sort them out a bit better. I am looking forward to K4J being able to speak again.

Sorry Mongoose I have learned my lesson about trusting Epignosis: DON'T DO IT!!!

Kill me first.

This sounds scummy. You're putting the responsibility on Epig. Do you now think he's a baddie or was he just wrong? Either way, I don't like how you made it about him instead of you.

How selfish of me. Should I have taken the blame for my own actions and then asked everyone to kill Epi? Did I do it wrong? Is that not the correct way to play? Do you request NKs and lynches differently on ksite?
I do it this way: I mistrusted Epi's giant case on Mongoose. So kill me.

Wow, a sarcastic reply. They are so rare on this site, it's getting hard to recognize them.

What I don't expect a civ to do is ask to be killed if he was just a part of another civ's kill. How would that help?
And with all the sarcasm, I didn't see your reply to whether you now think he's a baddie who outsmarted you into trusting him, or you think he was as misguided as you.[/quote]i agree. Interesting exchange here.. [/quote]

This post has the most meat of his 11 posts. I'm assuming he agrees with FZ? There's some pondering, but as we see....

Sorry I missed the vote, rip Russ not sure who I would of voted for.

....a missed vote with no follow through on his thoughts from last time.

I'm not happy about epig getting a vote, he is insanities and can't defend himself.

I kinda agree with people not taking responsibility for their vote and blaming epig. He is but a man after all.

Bullzeye is flicking mud at a lot of people I don't get good feelings about him.

I'm voting bass.

I don't get at all why dex suspected bullz in this post but ended up voting bass.

Yay!! We'll done MP voters, MP is a tricky one for me, he always comes of civvies I have a feeling something special happened for people to realise he was bad.

Yes I'm quiet, I'm here though, I'm just not into mafia right now, but miss playing,. I don't know half these new players either., also no one really cares of my opinion

BIH money bags

I doubt that no one really cares about your opinions dex. This post just feels like one long excuse as to why you aren't posting.

I've almost lost this post twice now so I'm posting part 1 - part 2 to follow.

[Mongoose]

Oooh, good point, Bass.

Devin, is there more of a link you can draw for us? (Connect the dots, la la la laaa).

Maybe we can win with a SK, but if you really think she is one, I think that's a safe vote for tonight. I mean you can't have a Serial Killer without, um, the kill. I would prefer to not be murdered.

[Mongoose]

I see CBK is here now and probably catching up so I'm going to give her ample time to respond before voting.

[bea]

Yay my kill went through! Sweet

Glad all the kills went through!

All the kills didn't go through.

That sucks

And some zany thown in at the end for good measure.

yea - not a lot to go on. Seems he was most involved during the MP lynch but all of it was rather half handed with no follow through - the vote for bass out of left field with no explanation seems bizarre for even the zany one.

[bea]

@ bass - was just the general impression I got from reading all your posts together. also - nice point about devin. I would like to see some dot connecting as well. Lots of that exchange felt like the only people who could possibly know what was going on were devin and epi.

[Captain Bunny Killer]

Well, feel free to look. I think the worst danger I've provided is offering plenty of distraction in thread for the baddies to keep under cover.

I know it's pretty clear that I've backed off Epi for now, because I had to rethink some things. I'm still not convinced, but we'll see.
And it's funny that a few comments have been made about Bass, because something didn't smell right there to me... aaaaannd of course he's still trying to whip up a revote for me. Just keep in mind everyone, that I'm a convenient target.

Whoa, lots of linki!

[Mongoose]

I'm leery of voting Zany Dex's Midnight Runners because every single time I have (I think 3x!) he has always been civ.

But yeah, I'd love Future Posts of Substance (possible band name?)

[Captain Bunny Killer]

Whoa, wait, hold up, Mongoose! How'd we go from indi to SK?? Nobody has accused me of being the SK that I know of yet. Are you suggesting that?

[Mongoose]

Whoa, wait, hold up, Mongoose! How'd we go from indi to SK?? Nobody has accused me of being the SK that I know of yet. Are you suggesting that?

I'm not - I thought Devin had labeled you as an SK in his most recent post, but after I saw this post of yours above (^), I reread his posts and it mentions you as a potential indie, not a SK.

[Captain Bunny Killer]

Whoa, wait, hold up, Mongoose! How'd we go from indi to SK?? Nobody has accused me of being the SK that I know of yet. Are you suggesting that?

I'm not - I thought Devin had labeled you as an SK in his most recent post, but after I saw this post of yours above (^), I reread his posts and it mentions you as a potential indie, not a SK.

Ok. Sorry for being jumpy. You just went from zero to votey in like fifteen minutes while I was folding laundry.

[S~V~S]

You might as well be one, IMO. You don't need to be LMS but you can kill people every other night.

[Draconus]

Whoa, wait, hold up, Mongoose! How'd we go from indi to SK?? Nobody has accused me of being the SK that I know of yet. Are you suggesting that?

I'm not - I thought Devin had labeled you as an SK in his most recent post, but after I saw this post of yours above (^), I reread his posts and it mentions you as a potential indie, not a SK.

Aren't the indie and SK, kinda-sorta the same thing? Anyway, Why would someone alone want to kill off someone they could potentially work with? In my experience as the indi team leader, things got a lot better when I found someone to work with.

The motives of SVS and Epig just seem in sink in this scenario. And they've been practically in sink this whole game. I found another instance of myself mentioning the 2 of them being on the same team much earlier in the game last night. I don't believe anyone responded to that one either. And here they are yet again trying to persuade people to vote CBK.

Thank you for the apology Epi. I look forward to more sarcasm

And Bass, I trust my gut feelings more than anything. In Homestar Runner Mafia I rezzed Bullzeye as a civ really early on and I was 100% accurate in saying that Vompatti was a baddie mcbaddie pretty early on, too. I was civ with no intel whatsoever.

[Draconus]

NVM just woke up, I misread, Lol. And I like your style, I tend to do text without a lot of quotes too.

Almost forgot!! Thank you for this, SVS! I'm glad you reread my post

[Epignosis]

And here they are yet again trying to persuade people to vote CBK.

To be fair, I don't think I've tried to persuade anyone to vote for Captain Bunny Killer.

If Eddie can steal HHH's power again, then Eddie can take out HHH with his own kill. And given that all Eddie needs to do is survive (not kill people), that would be a wise move. And it would deprive of us HHH's company.

[Captain Bunny Killer]

You might as well be one, IMO. You don't need to be LMS but you can kill people every other night.

What the heck! If I'm who you think I am, you'd seriously rather focus everyone's attention on me rather than going after baddies? I can promise I have only been on the civ team this whole time, whatever you think of me. You gonna go attack the civ ninja next? You only want the people alive who see things your way? You're assuming I am who you say I am and that I'm out to kill civs, I would like everyone to note. And the more you press this, the more you don't seem trustworthy.

linki: I don't have any idea if Eddie can kill a player w/ his own power, but I appreciate your vote of confidence.