WWE MAFIA - Day 14

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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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I think S~V~S is Triple HHH.
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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What? I don't have a kill, and if i did and it was stolen, why would i make such a major production out of it?

I don't have a kill, that's a flat statement for you.
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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S~V~S wrote:What? I don't have a kill, and if i did and it was stolen, why would i make such a major production out of it?

I don't have a kill, that's a flat statement for you.
Going after who you think is Eddie makes no sense if you are civilian. I'm sorry- it makes NONE.
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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Well, I'm glad someone else spoke up. I think that little revelation was a convenient turning point. Why would that change her suspicion of me? (I'm sure she'll say it didn't, bu that sure seemed like a turn to me.)

linki: and now you're back to connecting Eddie and HHH.
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I had to go back and look because I wasn't certain why we were so certain it was HHH.

I don't know how the role is written in terms of logistics - but could it be that eddie's power is that he picks a person to steal from and a target and might not know what the actual power is till it goes through? I've seen those types of roles written that way before. I might be willing to chalk it up to a misstep on eddie's part provided we don't see eddie steal hogan's power again.
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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Captain Bunny Killer wrote:Well, I'm glad someone else spoke up. I think that little revelation was a convenient turning point. Why would that change her suspicion of me? (I'm sure she'll say it didn't, bu that sure seemed like a turn to me.)

linki: and now you're back to connecting Eddie and HHH.
And how do you feel about that connection, CBK?
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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Yes it does, i don't trust indy roles, i never have, and i never will. they have different motivations than we do, and will stab us in the back if it means survival for them. i think an indy with access to a kill is a dangerous Indy.

i have said this is lots of games where i was a civ, and i will continue to do so. Becasue i believe it to be true.
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Captain Bunny Killer wrote:Well, I'm glad someone else spoke up. I think that little revelation was a convenient turning point. Why would that change her suspicion of me? (I'm sure she'll say it didn't, bu that sure seemed like a turn to me.)

linki: and now you're back to connecting Eddie and HHH.
I'm not opposed to voting for you either. I just need to think about it.

And I'm not BACK to connecting them. I'm not connecting them. I think one stole the other's power. That's all. Hardly a "connection."
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Also Epi, how many times do you and i have to have pissing contests before you realize we don't think alike ever. Bea knows how i feel about indys, don't you Bea?
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S~V~S wrote:Yes it does, i don't trust indy roles, i never have, and i never will. they have different motivations than we do, and will stab us in the back if it means survival for them. i think an indy with access to a kill is a dangerous Indy.

i have said this is lots of games where i was a civ, and i will continue to do so. Becasue i believe it to be true.
An independent SHOULD stab you in the back if it means SURVIVAL for them, right? Would you do the same?

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S~V~S wrote:Also Epi, how many times do you and i have to have pissing contests before you realize we don't think alike ever. Bea knows how i feel about indys, don't you Bea?
Fortunately, I know what is a pissing contest and what is not. This is not.
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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Mongoose wrote:
Captain Bunny Killer wrote:Well, I'm glad someone else spoke up. I think that little revelation was a convenient turning point. Why would that change her suspicion of me? (I'm sure she'll say it didn't, bu that sure seemed like a turn to me.)

linki: and now you're back to connecting Eddie and HHH.
And how do you feel about that connection, CBK?
Well, if you look back, I originally mistook the connection to be with Edge. I wasn't sure about the HHH thing, because he wasn't the only kill fail. But somehow that little Hogan phrase slipped right past me. It seems clear to me that it's the most likely.
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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So we're 90+% she is an indie, right?

I'm having a Bird in the Hand moment here.
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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Ironically, I voted with S~V~S with CBK.
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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i don't understand what you are saying? Just becasue it is good for THEM to stab me in the back, what do i care about that? I don;t want to be stabbed in the back by anyone. I think civvie killers kill for the good of all civvies, i think indy killers kill for themselves. One is in my interest, the other is not.

I think we are not even talking about the same thing, maybe? I could care less why she kills, I just want her to not be killing.
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I do really - and I mostly agree with you. As well you know - as stated above - my proudest mafia moment was double crossing the civs at the end of Heroes mafia (all hail the indi misstress queen :lorab:) I tend to be more forgiving and willing to give them a chance than you (my glass being ever "but this time it's going to be different") I've played indi's both ways. Your position is the logical one.
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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Also the pissing contest part was not the point, Epi, the "we don't think alike" part was.

Bea, was that you saying that this is generally my position about indies across the board in the vagues way possible, lol?
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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S~V~S wrote:i don't understand what you are saying? Just becasue it is good for THEM to stab me in the back, what do i care about that? I don;t want to be stabbed in the back by anyone. I think civvie killers kill for the good of all civvies, i think indy killers kill for themselves. One is in my interest, the other is not.

I think we are not even talking about the same thing, maybe? I could care less why she kills, I just want her to not be killing.
Civilian killers and Indy killers are the same. They kill according to their best interest. Neither have BTSC. THAT'S THE THING.

Bad guys have BTSC. They can kill anyone. Civilian killers and Independent killers have no idea who they are killing, so they just do.

An independent can do more for civilians than a civilian can do.

I feel really weird telling you all this.
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S~V~S wrote:Also the pissing contest part was not the point, Epi, the "we don't think alike" part was.

Bea, was that you saying that this is generally my position about indies across the board in the vagues way possible, lol?
yes - sorry - didn't realize I was being vauge. You are pretty firm on your position on indies. lol. Cold meds. They make me funkier than booze I swear.
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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S~V~S wrote:i don't understand what you are saying? Just becasue it is good for THEM to stab me in the back, what do i care about that? I don;t want to be stabbed in the back by anyone. I think civvie killers kill for the good of all civvies, i think indy killers kill for themselves. One is in my interest, the other is not.

I think we are not even talking about the same thing, maybe? I could care less why she kills, I just want her to not be killing.
Civilian killers and Indy killers are the same. They kill according to their best interest. Neither have BTSC. THAT'S THE THING.

Bad guys have BTSC. They can kill anyone. Civilian killers and Independent killers have no idea who they are killing, so they just do.

An independent can do more for civilians than a civilian can do.

I feel really weird telling you all this.
i disagree 1,000%. Indys can do incalculable harm if they decide to choose a side, and illogical as it may seem they often make that choice. When i play Indy, i tend to play baddie centric; LT tends to play for the civvies, but more people choose the bad side. I really could not disagree more, and while you are more logical i have played over 100 games in almost 5 years, and I am flabbergasted that you cannot even try to see my point.
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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You have less experience with me. I am firmly with lorab here, an Indy is a baddie lite in my books. When Sorsha shows, she will tell you the same about me. i don;t trust them, i never have. And an indy that kills people, for whatever independant reason they have, is not good for the civvies. NOT.
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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I went with CBK
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Bass_the_Clever wrote:I went with CBK
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I ment to say svs sory lol
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I kept debating between the two
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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S~V~S wrote:You have less experience with me. I am firmly with lorab here, an Indy is a baddie lite in my books. When Sorsha shows, she will tell you the same about me. i don;t trust them, i never have. And an indy that kills people, for whatever independant reason they have, is not good for the civvies. NOT.
Let's be clear. Eddie does NOT have a kill power. If it works the way you say (which it seems you know too much about these stolen powers), why wouldn't the person whose power is being stolen just kill the theif on the off night? It's NOT a continual power as you make it out to be.

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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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Yeah, Bea & Sorsha are it for people i have played with a long time in this game. But lynching me becasue Epi does not understand a philosophy I have had for YEARS becasue he thinks differently is whats really illogical here.
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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No, but it can be used more than once. And i know becasue i asked the host lots and lots of questions about it via PM.
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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i have never killed anyone (in this game, lol), quite the opposite, actually.

This is gonna cause problems in future games Epi, if you lynch me every time i take a strong stand in Indies, ha ha
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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Nice Bass. I should have been in bed 2 hours ago, i stayed up for this?
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Yea. I have to say - I'm with svs here. I always want to give them (indies) a chance because that's *my* nature, but she is right. an indi with access to the ninja's kill is dangerous to keep around. There's no avoiding it. We can try to "make a deal" only to have it ultimately bite us in the ass when he steal the kill again.

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S~V~S wrote: @Faraday~ if a persons power is stolen, do they still get to use it?
Yes they do. A more appropriate wording would be to say that Eddie copies an ability, but his gimmick was "Lie, Cheat, Steal" so I worded his powers that way in the description.
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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S~V~S wrote:Nice Bass. I should have been in bed 2 hours ago, i stayed up for this?
Sorry but I understand your case and have been thinking about it all day but you voting early and not talking about anything else just gave me really bad vibes and this might be a mistake but its just a game.
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DFaraday wrote:
S~V~S wrote: @Faraday~ if a persons power is stolen, do they still get to use it?
Yes they do. A more appropriate wording would be to say that Eddie copies an ability, but his gimmick was "Lie, Cheat, Steal" so I worded his powers that way in the description.
Wow I wish I waited now because now I know HHH is dead and lou prob stole the kill from edge .
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i can't believe this many people are still alive
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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DFaraday wrote:
S~V~S wrote: @Faraday~ if a persons power is stolen, do they still get to use it?
Yes they do. A more appropriate wording would be to say that Eddie copies an ability, but his gimmick was "Lie, Cheat, Steal" so I worded his powers that way in the description.
Whoa, whoa! Wait, what? On the same night? Because that changes all the discussion completely (except for how certain people feel about inides).
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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DFaraday wrote:
S~V~S wrote: @Faraday~ if a persons power is stolen, do they still get to use it?
Yes they do. A more appropriate wording would be to say that Eddie copies an ability, but his gimmick was "Lie, Cheat, Steal" so I worded his powers that way in the description.
So...Eddie killing would NOT have had any effect on his target; his target would still have had use of his kill. If there was no kill, there would be other reasons for that.

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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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Bass_the_Clever wrote:
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S~V~S wrote: @Faraday~ if a persons power is stolen, do they still get to use it?
Yes they do. A more appropriate wording would be to say that Eddie copies an ability, but his gimmick was "Lie, Cheat, Steal" so I worded his powers that way in the description.
Wow I wish I waited now because now I know HHH is dead and lou prob stole the kill from edge .
Uh, come again? Why do you know this and how did we get to lou stealing powers?
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Mp, if you weren't bad, I'd drag you out of your grave to return the favor.
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I ment you CBK eddie stole edge's power sorry I'm super tried right now
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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Bass_the_Clever wrote:I ment you CBK eddie stole edge's power sorry I'm super tried right now
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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Yes they do. A more appropriate wording would be to say that Eddie copies an ability, but his gimmick was "Lie, Cheat, Steal" so I worded his powers that way in the description.
Wow I wish I waited now because now I know HHH is dead and lou prob stole the kill from edge .
Uh, come again? Why do you know this and how did we get to lou stealing powers?
I mean HHH might not be dead but why would he stop killing when he needs to kill everyone?
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Captain Bunny Killer wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
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S~V~S wrote: @Faraday~ if a persons power is stolen, do they still get to use it?
Yes they do. A more appropriate wording would be to say that Eddie copies an ability, but his gimmick was "Lie, Cheat, Steal" so I worded his powers that way in the description.
Wow I wish I waited now because now I know HHH is dead and lou prob stole the kill from edge .
Uh, come again? Why do you know this and how did we get to lou stealing powers?
I mean HHH might not be dead but why would he stop killing when he needs to kill everyone?
Not just one power was stolen, and it appears that the mimick thing is specific to Eddie.
Is that right?
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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Trish has a percentage based mimic as well.
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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S~V~S wrote:Trish has a percentage based mimic as well.
Do we know if it takes the power away or just mimics like Eddie?
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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so if you mimic you kill who ever your target targeted too right?
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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 9

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No the targeted killer kills them i would think, not the mimic role.
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S~V~S wrote:No the targeted killer kills them i would think, not the mimic role.
I thinkk thats what I was saying lol
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