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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4

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speedchuck wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:51 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:47 pm
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I don't get it. Please explain while I sit with my legs crossed and listen nice a nice boy.
diricrawl cannot switch actions directed at one person to another, diricrawl can only switch actions directed at the owner to another. speedchuck has maintained the first, which is a mechanical impossibility.

he also says his floo powder buddy is the reason for this, who can only be a Slytherin since they last won the house cup.
Speed is saying his floobuddy (who is Kara because she already said so) dirticrawler switched herself with Speed.

Therefore, someone who have had to misdirect Kara and him for his info to be wrong.

He’s still bad but you misunderstood.
and juliets also claimed being redirected.
So? That information strengthens my argument.
I have no idea how.
For you to be telling the truth, Kara would have to be targeted by a timmer-aimed redirect which would then target me and send me to timmer to see you!

And as we can see, scum already used their redirect on Juliets.

There is no redirect for me. A diricawl wouldn't work unless LC or Timmer used it on each other possibly somehow.

There is no world in which what I saw meshes with your claim.

@juliets Nothing has changed. Just extra layers of confusing nonsense required for me to believe Quin
So basically, you admit you're a liar?
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4

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Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:52 pm So basically, you admit you're a liar?
I admit that our claims are incompatible, if that's what you are saying. Thus I call YOU a liar.
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[mention]Quin[/mention], why did you target Sloonei?
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4

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MacDougall wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:39 pm
timmer wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:36 pm I don't see the logic against DH.
I can only presume that you haven't bothered actually reading the thread then.
No no, I agree that he's definitely not a clear civ, but the case against him is far less interesting than long cons save of owner, or the discrepancies in the night actions, or poutanko claiming cop and pointing a finger at speed.
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Scum using a diricrawl between timmer and LC makes sense in theory. But then we’d need to answer how LC ended up dead, I think.
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:01 pm Quin, why did you target Sloonei?
Because I like Sloonei. The whole point was to protect timmer.
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Sloonei wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:04 pm Scum using a diricrawl between timmer and LC makes sense in theory. But then we’d need to answer how LC ended up dead, I think.
speedchuck guessed the elder wand, which is effectively an unbeatable wand. Whoever has it could be responsible for one of the night kills.
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Or Quin targeted LC with something other than a patronus and didn't target Sloonei with shit
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4

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Sloonei wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:04 pm Scum using a diricrawl between timmer and LC makes sense in theory. But then we’d need to answer how LC ended up dead, I think.
It does not.

Because it means whatever killed LC was aiming for Timmer.
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4

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I don't see anything in kara's posts that would suggest he suspected speedchuck and be motivated to use a diricrawl on him. Surely he'd have used it on Owner or Glorfiets who he suspected in his ISO.
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4

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Sloonei wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:52 pm @MacDougall what’s your take on Speedchuck vs. Quin?
speedchuck is bad anyway so who cares?
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Also entirely plausible that speedchuck and kara are both full of poop and there is no ??? -- this is all made up CARP
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4

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The only way Quin's story and mine could work together with LC diricrawling timmer is if Long Con killed Epi and Epi responded with a Hippogrif.

Assuming Hippogrifs are not redirectable, which IDK

Still super unlikely. Why would Epi use it tonight? It's one-shot.

Occam says Quin is lying (Or I am, but this is all for after I flip town anyway)
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:09 pm Also entirely plausible that speedchuck and kara are both full of poop and there is no ??? -- this is all made up CARP
I could reveal who it is.

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Go on, reveal that you have a town read on DH. Make all the fun even more fun.
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4

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Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:09 pm I don't see anything in kara's posts that would suggest he suspected speedchuck and be motivated to use a diricrawl on him. Surely he'd have used it on Owner or Glorfiets who he suspected in his ISO.
What's the motivation to use a Diricawl on scum?

(Not arguing, Kara can explain their own motives. Just curious)
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MacDougall wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:11 pm Go on, reveal that you have a town read on DH. Make all the fun even more fun.
Who are you talking to?
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4

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speedchuck wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:11 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:09 pm I don't see anything in kara's posts that would suggest he suspected speedchuck and be motivated to use a diricrawl on him. Surely he'd have used it on Owner or Glorfiets who he suspected in his ISO.
What's the motivation to use a Diricawl on scum?

(Not arguing, Kara can explain their own motives. Just curious)
Redirecting night kills off of yourself onto someone you suspect.
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4

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Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:12 pm
speedchuck wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:11 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:09 pm I don't see anything in kara's posts that would suggest he suspected speedchuck and be motivated to use a diricrawl on him. Surely he'd have used it on Owner or Glorfiets who he suspected in his ISO.
What's the motivation to use a Diricawl on scum?

(Not arguing, Kara can explain their own motives. Just curious)
Redirecting night kills off of yourself onto someone you suspect.
I wouldn't do it.

Not with the vig kills that have been on point this game. :p
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4

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One easy question to ask is "do we believe that karavalenge used a floo powder to talk to speedchuck in BTSC?"

Obviously this is not necessary if they're both mafia members. We could WIFOM all day about it, but I am inclined to believe it at face value. I think that'd reflect well on kara and mean nothing for speedchuck.
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Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:39 pm i didn't read far enough for a name. i read the post in bed and shit my pants.
and failed to read the post accurately lol
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4

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karavalenge wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:36 pm Yeah, there's not any real reason to hide it since Speed brought it up.

I floo'd him today to see who the "other" person was he referred to who interacted with Long Con and he complied and told me.

In return I let him know that my Night 3 action was to Diricawl with him, which does not appear to have affected anything.
I don't like this much. Why did kara need to know?
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Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:43 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:40 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:37 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:36 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:34 pm Speedchuck just confirmed himself as scum and that his teammate is in Slytherin. Nice!
I don't get it. Please explain while I sit with my legs crossed and listen nice a nice boy.
diricrawl cannot switch actions directed at one person to another, diricrawl can only switch actions directed at the owner to another. speedchuck has maintained the first, which is a mechanical impossibility.

he also says his floo powder buddy is the reason for this, who can only be a Slytherin since they last won the house cup.
Speed is saying his floobuddy (who is Kara because she already said so) dirticrawler switched herself with Speed.

Therefore, someone who have had to misdirect Kara and him for his info to be wrong.

He’s still bad but you misunderstood.
and juliets also claimed being redirected.
...so? there's more than one diricawl out there
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MacDougall wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:09 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:52 pm @MacDougall what’s your take on Speedchuck vs. Quin?
speedchuck is bad anyway so who cares?
I do. Why’s speedchuck bad? What do you think happened last night?
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nutella wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:19 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:39 pm i didn't read far enough for a name. i read the post in bed and shit my pants.
and failed to read the post accurately lol
look m8 if you thought you were ever gonna play with a quin who interpreted posts correctly you've been setting yourself up for failure
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:09 pm Also entirely plausible that speedchuck and kara are both full of poop and there is no ??? -- this is all made up CARP
Hella ballsy of the two of them to draw themselves together like this if so.
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Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:20 pm
karavalenge wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:36 pm Yeah, there's not any real reason to hide it since Speed brought it up.

I floo'd him today to see who the "other" person was he referred to who interacted with Long Con and he complied and told me.

In return I let him know that my Night 3 action was to Diricawl with him, which does not appear to have affected anything.
I don't like this much. Why did kara need to know?
For kara to be bad with this mind frame, can speedchuck also be bad?
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Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:37 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:36 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:34 pm Speedchuck just confirmed himself as scum and that his teammate is in Slytherin. Nice!
I don't get it. Please explain while I sit with my legs crossed and listen nice a nice boy.
diricrawl cannot switch actions directed at one person to another, diricrawl can only switch actions directed at the owner to another. speedchuck has maintained the first, which is a mechanical impossibility.

he also says his floo powder buddy is the reason for this, who can only be a Slytherin since they last won the house cup.
Speed is saying his floobuddy (who is Kara because she already said so) dirticrawler switched herself with Speed.

Therefore, someone who have had to misdirect Kara and him for his info to be wrong.

He’s still bad but you misunderstood.
and juliets also claimed being redirected.
...so? there's more than one diricawl out there
If you know this as a fact then you've just confirmed I could have been redirected from timmer to LC. Or Sloonei to LC I guess, but I doubt it.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:22 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:20 pm
karavalenge wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:36 pm Yeah, there's not any real reason to hide it since Speed brought it up.

I floo'd him today to see who the "other" person was he referred to who interacted with Long Con and he complied and told me.

In return I let him know that my Night 3 action was to Diricawl with him, which does not appear to have affected anything.
I don't like this much. Why did kara need to know?
For kara to be bad with this mind frame, can speedchuck also be bad?
I don't think so.
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23% of me thinks this is all horseshit between teammates meant to sow extreme confusion in a game otherwise cruising toward a civilian victory.
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speedchuck wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:51 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:47 pm
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Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:43 pm
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I don't get it. Please explain while I sit with my legs crossed and listen nice a nice boy.
diricrawl cannot switch actions directed at one person to another, diricrawl can only switch actions directed at the owner to another. speedchuck has maintained the first, which is a mechanical impossibility.

he also says his floo powder buddy is the reason for this, who can only be a Slytherin since they last won the house cup.
Speed is saying his floobuddy (who is Kara because she already said so) dirticrawler switched herself with Speed.

Therefore, someone who have had to misdirect Kara and him for his info to be wrong.

He’s still bad but you misunderstood.
and juliets also claimed being redirected.
So? That information strengthens my argument.
I have no idea how.
For you to be telling the truth, Kara would have to be targeted by a timmer-aimed redirect which would then target me and send me to timmer to see you!

And as we can see, scum already used their redirect on Juliets.

There is no redirect for me. A diricawl wouldn't work unless LC or Timmer used it on each other possibly somehow.

There is no world in which what I saw meshes with your claim.

@juliets Nothing has changed. Just extra layers of confusing nonsense required for me to believe Quin
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speedchuck wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:52 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:50 pm If kara used a diricrawl on himself and you, I don't see how that has any impact on me who targeted a combination of timmer, Sloonei and LC unless you're talking about additional redirections, of which there isn't enough of.
That's the point. There aren't enough redirections.

Assume you were telling the truth. You were not redirected, because you're protected from Imperius.

Therefore, for me to see you, my action had to be redirected to YOUR target.

There aren't enough redirects for that, and the path would be hopelessly convoluted if there were.
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i was supposed to be confirmed town today
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:23 pm 23% of me thinks this is all horseshit between teammates meant to sow extreme confusion in a game otherwise cruising toward a civilian victory.
sounds completely suicidal but ok
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:25 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:24 pm i was supposed to be confirmed town today
how
by being myself
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Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:25 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:25 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:24 pm i was supposed to be confirmed town today
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by being myself
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:09 pm Also entirely plausible that speedchuck and kara are both full of poop and there is no ??? -- this is all made up CARP
god damn it why are too many things entirely plausible

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I've decided I straight up don't believe speedchuck watched Long Con last night. No convoluted bullshit with multiple diricrawls and redirections.

He lied about his night action. That's it.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:26 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:25 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:25 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:24 pm i was supposed to be confirmed town today
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by being myself
gun to your head immediately:

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[VOTE: insertnamehere] aubergine

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Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:20 pm
karavalenge wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:36 pm Yeah, there's not any real reason to hide it since Speed brought it up.

I floo'd him today to see who the "other" person was he referred to who interacted with Long Con and he complied and told me.

In return I let him know that my Night 3 action was to Diricawl with him, which does not appear to have affected anything.
I don't like this much. Why did kara need to know?
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Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:28 pm bad
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Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:27 pm I've decided I straight up don't believe speedchuck watched Long Con last night. No convoluted bullshit with multiple diricrawls and redirections.

He lied about his night action. That's it.
There we go. We can drop the maybes and get right to the heart of the matter. I say you lied. You say I lied. That's what it boils down to.

But when I flip town, it's gonna poop right in your bed. To replace what you cleaned up. So you'd better get some corn flakes to go with it.
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I can't explain why speedchuck found me on Long Con, since timmer has rejected the only possibility I can understand from the rules. I am not lying, and therefore speedchuck is.

We still don't know who this ??? person is. speedchuck seemed happy to share that with kara, but for all we know it could have been a lie and kara's now looking at a night kill tonight to tie up that loose end.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:29 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:28 pm bad
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Please build me a full mafia team compatible with these reads.
no thanks
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Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:31 pm no thanks
This really would help me a great deal. I don't mean to be a bossy ass. Please humor me.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:32 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:31 pm no thanks
This really would help me a great deal. I don't mean to be a bossy ass. Please humor me.
I can't do the in-depth kind of stuff you need right now. I'm starting a new journal article and writing my masters application today.

If you want a GTH mafia team:

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Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:31 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:29 pm
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no thanks
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Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:32 pm
Quin wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:31 pm no thanks
This really would help me a great deal. I don't mean to be a bossy ass. Please humor me.
I can't do the in-depth kind of stuff you need right now. I'm starting a new journal article and writing my masters application today.

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