Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 13]

[S~V~S]

Hey SVS, I don't know if I've played with you before, but I've seen you around and sort of know about you. My valid suspicion of Colin shows that day one can contain valid suspicions. Mac doesn't think so, and therefore thinks I "attacked" nutella for no reason over her (in my opinon) completely invalid Jack suspicion. Does that clear things up for you?

Out of curiosity, what do you sort of know about S~V~S?

So um, speedchuck played game of champions with her last year, before I even joined the site, and he ranted to me about her suspecting him.

Yeah he aggressively defended the guy with the blinking neon "Baddie" sign on his head. Good times.

If people who know you better than I that I feel ok about tell me this is your norm, I am open to moving my vote. Plenty of day one weirdness in this thread lol.

But for now I'm good.

I would like to tell you a list of references who can attest to my civ game, but I get mislynched pretty often, because apparently I don't know how to play like a civ.

I get that myself.

I see you link all you games in your sig. I will poke around in there.

[S~V~S]

I just started browsing Mega Man and I see Bullzeye was here and I missed him, Is he still around?

[Lunalee]

[mention]S~V~S[/mention] I just added Space Force to my signature as well.

[Quin]

Can I suggest that we change the vote word from aubergine to something that is not one of the role names? I mean, if the point is to be easily searched, then it seems to me it would make it easier if it were a word that isn't likely to come up. Also, lol to the hosts for putting that in there.

This aubergine thing sounds silly. Why is there a need to have a vote word?

These guys just don't get it.

[Kylemii]

Actually, to be more clear, Luna's vote seems fine. I was trying to reference this POST of hers: "Sorry, but that is not a god reason to vote someone. Anything Jack has done this game to make you suspect him?"

I don't like when people try to make big deals out of anyone's day 1 vote, because frankly, to me they ALL are weak votes. Why call one specific one out?

"Like!"

[Quin]

Keep an eye on the folks who darted in here early and, in light of the D0 poll result, pooh-poohed ties on the lynch poll. It’s a subtle way to establish a preemptive cop-out for either train-hopping later (to show they stick to their convictions) or blame-shifting to set up fall guys who tie polls that result in mislynches.

Close lynches and ties (whether mid-phase or at EOD) are valuable sources of information. Granted, that information is best in hindsight after the herd has thinned some.

We may not know who is on the Tribunal but we’re starting out with more civs than baddies (unless this game is extra-double whacky) and there are also two baddie factions, so the odds are against Tribunal being filled with one baddie team.

This post is an amazing piece of wisdom and logic that doesn't acrually do any scumhuting.

yes

[juliets]

I'm here but I'm tipsy and watching my recording of the Heisman presentation so I may not have much to say.

[Quin]

Has anyone seen Quin? At this point I'd expect to see him angrily hissing at the people accusing him.

nobody is accusing me so i have nothing to do

[Quin]

I hate Day 1. I don't know how you guys do it. I hate so much the voting and trying to make cases based on so little that Day 1's just make me twitchy. As of this moment, I am mostly on the lookout for people who seem to eager to make something out of nothing. Luna's vote fits the bill, for instance.

no

[Quin]

Actually, to be more clear, Luna's vote seems fine. I was trying to reference this POST of hers: "Sorry, but that is not a god reason to vote someone. Anything Jack has done this game to make you suspect him?"

I don't like when people try to make big deals out of anyone's day 1 vote, because frankly, to me they ALL are weak votes. Why call one specific one out?

because if you want someone lynched you need to make a case on them. that is how mafia works.

[VOTE: timmer] aubergine

[Quin]

she didn't even vote for him so that is slightly embarassing but i'm still all in on the timmer vote

[juliets]

Hey SVS, I don't know if I've played with you before, but I've seen you around and sort of know about you. My valid suspicion of Colin shows that day one can contain valid suspicions. Mac doesn't think so, and therefore thinks I "attacked" nutella for no reason over her (in my opinon) completely invalid Jack suspicion. Does that clear things up for you?

Out of curiosity, what do you sort of know about S~V~S?

So um, speedchuck played game of champions with her last year, before I even joined the site, and he ranted to me about her suspecting him.

Yeah he aggressively defended the guy with the blinking neon "Baddie" sign on his head. Good times.

If people who know you better than I that I feel ok about tell me this is your norm, I am open to moving my vote. Plenty of day one weirdness in this thread lol.

But for now I'm good.

I would like to tell you a list of references who can attest to my civ game, but I get mislynched pretty often, because apparently I don't know how to play like a civ.

Luna does seem to get mislynched but I think it's because we don't know how to read her more than it is she doesn't know how to play like a civ. I thought her question to nutella was good, I also wondered if she was voting based on Hogwarts or something she has seen this game.

[Turnip Head]

I'ma make a pretty little iso list in the morning

[DharmaHelper]

Oh that reminds me I tried something new in Outpost and I think Hogwarts with those Re-reading list or whatever but 30 players is too much so fuck that lol.

[Lunalee]

[quote=Quin post_id=500794 time=1544321336 user_id=474]
she didn't even vote for him so that is slightly embarassing but i'm still all in on the timmer vote
[/quote]

Wait, did my Colin vote not show up? I did it on my phone instead of my laptop. I just hit submit again, so it should be there.

[Epignosis]

I love this whole "trust-team" idea that JOH and CBob are throwing around.

Anyone want to openly team up with me? I'm an honorable, trustworthy person, according to the most trustworthy person I know, who is of course myself.

Sure. Let's be friends.

Hiya new best bud!

On a scale of 1 to 10, how genuinely sus are you of DDL? 1 being "I just randomly said something about him to kickstart discussion, and I don't actually believe any of it," and 10 being "I will stake my entire mafia reputation on DDL being bad."

How about 5 for "Best buds don't ask that question this early?"

[Epignosis]

I have a lock civilian already.

Cool.

[Enrique]

Hey guys, I'm sorry, but I'm absolutely not up for it this weekend. I've been half-keeping up and I don't think I'm that lost or anything (thought a few pages behind) but I really can't participate right now. I know it's kind of a cop out or whatever but suck it up you'll get plenty of me later.

[speedchuck]

Hey guys, I'm sorry, but I'm absolutely not up for it this weekend. I've been half-keeping up and I don't think I'm that lost or anything (thought a few pages behind) but I really can't participate right now. I know it's kind of a cop out or whatever but suck it up you'll get plenty of me later.

You are not alone.

I think I can get 20 minutes in tomorrow afternoon. IDK if there's anything for me to weigh in on? @ me pls in advance

[nutella]

Luna's cool for now

Probably gonna move my vote to Colin soon unless he steps it up

[Epignosis]

Luna's cool for now

Probably gonna move my vote to Colin soon unless he steps it up

Nah.

Lock civilian.

[Kylemii]

Luna's cool for now

Probably gonna move my vote to Colin soon unless he steps it up

Nah.

Lock civilian.

is your lock civilian luna or colin? also why

[Epignosis]

Luna's cool for now

Probably gonna move my vote to Colin soon unless he steps it up

Nah.

Lock civilian.

is your lock civilian luna or colin? also why

Colin.

Let's play a game.

You guess why I believe Colin is a lock civilian.

[Epignosis]

And if you're right, I won't target you tonight.

[Sloonei]

Hey guys, I'm sorry, but I'm absolutely not up for it this weekend. I've been half-keeping up and I don't think I'm that lost or anything (thought a few pages behind) but I really can't participate right now. I know it's kind of a cop out or whatever but suck it up you'll get plenty of me later.

That's cool. I suggest not caring too much about reading everything when you do have the time to join us. There will probably be a lot, and spending all your time digging through things that have already happened is a headache. #downwithketchup

[nutella]

Uhhhh I got nothin


Because he "publicly announced a wagon contribution"?

[Kylemii]

Luna's cool for now

Probably gonna move my vote to Colin soon unless he steps it up

Nah.

Lock civilian.

is your lock civilian luna or colin? also why

Colin.

Let's play a game.

You guess why I believe Colin is a lock civilian.

that sounds like a fun game except instead of doing that, what if you just told me why you believe colin is good and then afterward i'll tell you if i guessed it correctly

[Epignosis]

Uhhhh I got nothin


Because he "publicly announced a wagon contribution"?

I was talking to Kylemii.

[Kylemii]

i don't see anything shiningly obvious-good in colin's posts, and i don't know colin's baseline game-personality well enough to know what his tendencies are

[Epignosis]

Luna's cool for now

Probably gonna move my vote to Colin soon unless he steps it up

Nah.

Lock civilian.

is your lock civilian luna or colin? also why

Colin.

Let's play a game.

You guess why I believe Colin is a lock civilian.

that sounds like a fun game except instead of doing that, what if you just told me why you believe colin is good and then afterward i'll tell you if i guessed it correctly

Fail.

I wasn't going to target you anyway.

[sprityo]

@S~V~S I just added Space Force to my signature as well.

you didn’t add that civilian loss in Dethys game tho

[Sloonei]

I've added another town read to my list.

I have a genuine Day 1 suspicion of Colin, but am I little anxious about the ease with which his case gained momentum. His post about bandwagonining DDL is patented shady-nasty business, but I don't know how to feel about the seemingly exaggerated scrutiny it's received. Then again, there's also the fact that we have two scum teams. It's entirely possible for scum to pile on an easy bandwagon that ends up being correct. I'd like for Colin to say things. I'll lay out my own gripes against them so he has more variety to respond to. I was voting for Colin before it was cool, after all.

[Kylemii]

Fail.

you're a little confusing sometimes,

what do you think of DH (DharmaHelper)

[Kylemii]

Fail.

you're a little confusing sometimes,

what do you think of DH (DharmaHelper)

[Epignosis]

I've added another town read to my list.

I have a genuine Day 1 suspicion of Colin, but am I little anxious about the ease with which his case gained momentum. His post about bandwagonining DDL is patented shady-nasty business, but I don't know how to feel about the seemingly exaggerated scrutiny it's received. Then again, there's also the fact that we have two scum teams. It's entirely possible for scum to pile on an easy bandwagon that ends up being correct. I'd like for Colin to say things. I'll lay out my own gripes against them so he has more variety to respond to. I was voting for Colin before it was cool, after all.

What mafia member says, "You know what? I'm going to plop a lazy third vote down on DDL early on in the day and draw attention to myself! That's a great idea!"

Lock civilian.

[Epignosis]

Fail.

you're a little confusing sometimes,

what do you think of DH (DharmaHelper)

I don't think of him.

[Epignosis]

Fail.

you're a little confusing sometimes,

what do you think of DH (DharmaHelper)

I don't think of him.

[Sloonei]

I've added another town read to my list.

I have a genuine Day 1 suspicion of Colin, but am I little anxious about the ease with which his case gained momentum. His post about bandwagonining DDL is patented shady-nasty business, but I don't know how to feel about the seemingly exaggerated scrutiny it's received. Then again, there's also the fact that we have two scum teams. It's entirely possible for scum to pile on an easy bandwagon that ends up being correct. I'd like for Colin to say things. I'll lay out my own gripes against them so he has more variety to respond to. I was voting for Colin before it was cool, after all.

What mafia member says, "You know what? I'm going to plop a lazy third vote down on DDL early on in the day and draw attention to myself! That's a great idea!"

Lock civilian.

a careless one

this is not my primary concern about colin anyway.

[Kylemii]

What mafia member says, "You know what? I'm going to plop a lazy third vote down on DDL early on in the day and draw attention to myself! That's a great idea!"

Lock civilian.

ooh i see, i didn't know DDL had other votes

[Epignosis]

I've added another town read to my list.

I have a genuine Day 1 suspicion of Colin, but am I little anxious about the ease with which his case gained momentum. His post about bandwagonining DDL is patented shady-nasty business, but I don't know how to feel about the seemingly exaggerated scrutiny it's received. Then again, there's also the fact that we have two scum teams. It's entirely possible for scum to pile on an easy bandwagon that ends up being correct. I'd like for Colin to say things. I'll lay out my own gripes against them so he has more variety to respond to. I was voting for Colin before it was cool, after all.

What mafia member says, "You know what? I'm going to plop a lazy third vote down on DDL early on in the day and draw attention to myself! That's a great idea!"

Lock civilian.

a careless one

this is not my primary concern about colin anyway.

You're the one who is bad.

[Sloonei]

Colin beef

Sloonei is supertowning, which is good.

As a supertown, I demand that you talk about my Tranq vote.

I like it as far as where your mind’s at hunt-wise, but being unfamiliar with Tranq I’m reluctant to support it.

I never cared about lynching Tranq and my vote was just a thing to get people talking. Colin offered tentative support but backed away from saying anything meaningful about it. This post is indifference disguised as activity.

Hey Colllllllin, aren't you gonna acknowledge my vote, Collllllin?

Nope

And then this. There's one argument to be made that Colin is too cool to care about petty Day 1 votes against him because he knows (assumes) that I'm not being serious and just want to get him to squirm (if that's the case, what's with his response to my Tranq vote?). There's a counterargument that Colin is trying to feign this nonchalant attitude by downplaying the fact that he's got a vote against him.

These two posts do not register as the consistent mindset of a civilian to me. The first suggests an attitude of partial investment in the hunt, but with a slight aftertaste of waffles and indecision. The second suggests a calculated indifference to the hunt.

[Sloonei]

I've added another town read to my list.

I have a genuine Day 1 suspicion of Colin, but am I little anxious about the ease with which his case gained momentum. His post about bandwagonining DDL is patented shady-nasty business, but I don't know how to feel about the seemingly exaggerated scrutiny it's received. Then again, there's also the fact that we have two scum teams. It's entirely possible for scum to pile on an easy bandwagon that ends up being correct. I'd like for Colin to say things. I'll lay out my own gripes against them so he has more variety to respond to. I was voting for Colin before it was cool, after all.

What mafia member says, "You know what? I'm going to plop a lazy third vote down on DDL early on in the day and draw attention to myself! That's a great idea!"

Lock civilian.

a careless one

this is not my primary concern about colin anyway.

You're the one who is bad.

i am not

[Epignosis]

Sloonei is so bad.

[Quin]

I've added another town read to my list.

I have a genuine Day 1 suspicion of Colin, but am I little anxious about the ease with which his case gained momentum. His post about bandwagonining DDL is patented shady-nasty business, but I don't know how to feel about the seemingly exaggerated scrutiny it's received. Then again, there's also the fact that we have two scum teams. It's entirely possible for scum to pile on an easy bandwagon that ends up being correct. I'd like for Colin to say things. I'll lay out my own gripes against them so he has more variety to respond to. I was voting for Colin before it was cool, after all.

What mafia member says, "You know what? I'm going to plop a lazy third vote down on DDL early on in the day and draw attention to myself! That's a great idea!"

Lock civilian.

i do actually :/

[Epignosis]

I am about to dismantle you in front of your peers. Are you ready?

[Epignosis]

Not you Quin- you have no peers. I mean Sloonei.

[Quin]

wtf im hurt

[Sloonei]

I am about to dismantle you in front of your peers. Are you ready?

Go right ahead.

[DharmaHelper]

Luna's cool for now

Probably gonna move my vote to Colin soon unless he steps it up

Nah.

Lock civilian.

is your lock civilian luna or colin? also why

Colin.

Let's play a game.

You guess why I believe Colin is a lock civilian.

"I picked a name at random and asked you to give me a reason so I could say that's the reason"

[Epignosis]

I've added another town read to my list.

I have a genuine Day 1 suspicion of Colin, but am I little anxious about the ease with which his case gained momentum. His post about bandwagonining DDL is patented shady-nasty business, but I don't know how to feel about the seemingly exaggerated scrutiny it's received. Then again, there's also the fact that we have two scum teams. It's entirely possible for scum to pile on an easy bandwagon that ends up being correct. I'd like for Colin to say things. I'll lay out my own gripes against them so he has more variety to respond to. I was voting for Colin before it was cool, after all.

You qualified your suspicion of Colin as "genuine." If you are a civilian, what else could it be? Why is the adjective necessary?

I know people will roll their eyes, but someone literally did this in the Mafia Universe game I was in, and I backed off on it, and the mafia won.

Fuck that. Fuck adverbs and adjectives and adjuncts.

The bottom line is that you started out with telling us your suspicion of Colin is genuine, but then you talked about how anxious you feel about other people agreeing that he's bad.

After that you have to talk about two bad teams. Who the fuck cares?

Voting Sloonei.