Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Day 13]

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Epignosis wrote: Fri May 04, 2018 11:46 pm You all are terrible at this.
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Hey gang, as a but if something I noticed

Lycantha is the most important role we have as town because it allows us to identify killers, but more importantly it can probably see dead player’s TRUE IDENTITY

aka the counter role to Trickster. If you see the part of “May find other information”

That’s all I wanted to say
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Nah the most important role is the bulletproof lie detector.

That shit is so OP I give a 50% it will turn hostile at some point.
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[mention]Long Con[/mention]
Polls post plz?

When does this phase end?
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Then again the 30 min thing requires some really active player to pull it off.
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Guys polls post is in the first post he already said it.
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speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:56 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:55 pm
speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:55 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:52 pm
S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:12 am Also again, asking people who were here eod to give their takes on what happened in here. That could help us who weren't understand it better.
The way I see, Wolbre made a direct challenge against a force no one controls and few really comprehend: people's will to make stupid wagons on Day 1. You don't challenge Day 1 like that. You must respect it, bow to it, do what it wants. It's an unforgiving mistress. If will spot a player making fun of its wrath and bury them under 10 bandwagon votes.

I don't blame anyone for voting Wolbre tbh. He literally begged for it. Though I'd still find it useful to figure out any people who did it while stating terrible reasons for it.
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What's different about speedhuck this game, nutella?
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Sloonei wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:31 pm What's different about speedhuck this game, nutella?
His lack of non-shitty content.
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Like he's more guilty of not taking stances than you are saying juliets is.
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And when he has kind of taken stances (on you for instance) it's been worded in an indirect/backhanded way.
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What if Speedchuck is bad? 🤔
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Ok, I am finally back from the doctor so I will catch up real quick and then address Sloonei's post.
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I feel more like speedchuck's contributions to this game are more just lacking content in general, rather than lacking non-shitty content. I'm not opposed to suspecting him, but he hasn't done enough for me to feel like there's a substantial case against him yet.
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juliets wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:36 pm Ok, I am finally back from the doctor so I will catch up real quick and then address Sloonei's post.
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nutella wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:35 pm And when he has kind of taken stances (on you for instance) it's been worded in an indirect/backhanded way.
I'm curious as to what stances (other than Sloonei) you've seen that are indirect or backhanded. Cite your sources.
I'm also wondering why any of this would point to me being scum.
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speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:48 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:35 pm And when he has kind of taken stances (on you for instance) it's been worded in an indirect/backhanded way.
I'm curious as to what stances (other than Sloonei) you've seen that are indirect or backhanded. Cite your sources.
I'm also wondering why any of this would point to me being scum.
So you admit that the comments regarding sloonei were. ok. Idk if I have other examples since you haven't said anything else besides thinking wolbre was amusing. :suspish:
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Sloonei wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:37 pm
S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:18 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:44 pm Does anyone recall any games, recent or past, in which juliets was bad?
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I think if she was bad, I think I would see it. I don't recall the game, she or Tranq might, but I think it must have been an LC/BR game since she was our bad teammate and that's mostly all Tranq plays, and she was a nervous wreck, and it showed in the thread.

I am not seeing it, but I am not infallible.
Thanks. Do you know roughly how long ago this was? @@juliets, do you remember any other games where you were bad?
I'm stopping to go ahead and answer this, I haven't been bad in quite a while. I'll try to find my last baddie game in the Hall of Fame in a little while.
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nutella wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:49 pm
speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:48 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:35 pm And when he has kind of taken stances (on you for instance) it's been worded in an indirect/backhanded way.
I'm curious as to what stances (other than Sloonei) you've seen that are indirect or backhanded. Cite your sources.
I'm also wondering why any of this would point to me being scum.
So you admit that the comments regarding sloonei were. ok. Idk if I have other examples since you haven't said anything else besides thinking wolbre was amusing. :suspish:
Wasn't he though?
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speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:53 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:49 pm
speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:48 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:35 pm And when he has kind of taken stances (on you for instance) it's been worded in an indirect/backhanded way.
I'm curious as to what stances (other than Sloonei) you've seen that are indirect or backhanded. Cite your sources.
I'm also wondering why any of this would point to me being scum.
So you admit that the comments regarding sloonei were. ok. Idk if I have other examples since you haven't said anything else besides thinking wolbre was amusing. :suspish:
Wasn't he though?
Yeah sure but that was all you had to say about the EOD antics.
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I went over JoH's ISO on a whim. It was very bland and did not suit my palate. -1 points.

linki: Did you have anything to say about them, [mention]nutella[/mention]?
Wolbre was lynched for really silly reasons. That's on him as much as on the people that were after him. The counter wagons were... wilgy and Sloonei I think? One is a mislynch waiting to happen (or a lucky mafia lynch, IDK with lurker wilgy) and the other is Sloonei. Which no. Bad lynch.

Pulling something out of that rapid-fire linki-filled mess in which the guy who got lynched was daring the thread to lynch him doesn't seem like the best use of my time.
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Tranq is okay in my book right now. There's a lack of solid content there, but it's very blunt. "Yeah I'm not looking at that right now." He's very comfy in his boots.
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speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:02 pm Tranq is okay in my book right now. There's a lack of solid content there, but it's very blunt. "Yeah I'm not looking at that right now." He's very comfy in his boots.
Hmm yeah I guess you're right as long as he's comfortable blending into the background and avoiding any suspicion and not helping the civ cause at all, Tranq's good to go.
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Colin's ISO gives me so many mixed feelings it's like I'm starring in a Hallmark movie. I don't like that his list of suspects doesn't have explanations. I looked back for those explanations to check on them. Two of them were simply quoted with a "LMAO" added. Another one or two were "I agree" on someone else's post.

I don't really have a sight line into Colin's think hole, but that's the very problem. I can't tell what the dude is thinking. -1 points
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DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:10 pm
speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:02 pm Tranq is okay in my book right now. There's a lack of solid content there, but it's very blunt. "Yeah I'm not looking at that right now." He's very comfy in his boots.
Hmm yeah I guess you're right as long as he's comfortable blending into the background and avoiding any suspicion and not helping the civ cause at all, Tranq's good to go.
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speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:59 pm I went over JoH's ISO on a whim. It was very bland and did not suit my palate. -1 points.

linki: Did you have anything to say about them, nutella?
Wolbre was lynched for really silly reasons. That's on him as much as on the people that were after him. The counter wagons were... wilgy and Sloonei I think? One is a mislynch waiting to happen (or a lucky mafia lynch, IDK with lurker wilgy) and the other is Sloonei. Which no. Bad lynch.

Pulling something out of that rapid-fire linki-filled mess in which the guy who got lynched was daring the thread to lynch him doesn't seem like the best use of my time.
I sure did, I made a multi quote post or two after the lynch. And wait, I thought you suspected sloonei?? :confused:
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speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:13 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:10 pm
speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:02 pm Tranq is okay in my book right now. There's a lack of solid content there, but it's very blunt. "Yeah I'm not looking at that right now." He's very comfy in his boots.
Hmm yeah I guess you're right as long as he's comfortable blending into the background and avoiding any suspicion and not helping the civ cause at all, Tranq's good to go.
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Yeah Tranq seemed really authentic when he was like "wow golly gosh is everyone voting randomly for these meaningless poll options shucky darns"
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DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:14 pm
speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:13 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:10 pm
speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:02 pm Tranq is okay in my book right now. There's a lack of solid content there, but it's very blunt. "Yeah I'm not looking at that right now." He's very comfy in his boots.
Hmm yeah I guess you're right as long as he's comfortable blending into the background and avoiding any suspicion and not helping the civ cause at all, Tranq's good to go.
Authenticity is everything.
Yeah Tranq seemed really authentic when he was like "wow golly gosh is everyone voting randomly for these meaningless poll options shucky darns"
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nutella wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:14 pm
speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:59 pm I went over JoH's ISO on a whim. It was very bland and did not suit my palate. -1 points.

linki: Did you have anything to say about them, nutella?
Wolbre was lynched for really silly reasons. That's on him as much as on the people that were after him. The counter wagons were... wilgy and Sloonei I think? One is a mislynch waiting to happen (or a lucky mafia lynch, IDK with lurker wilgy) and the other is Sloonei. Which no. Bad lynch.

Pulling something out of that rapid-fire linki-filled mess in which the guy who got lynched was daring the thread to lynch him doesn't seem like the best use of my time.
I sure did, I made a multi quote post or two after the lynch. And wait, I thought you suspected sloonei?? :confused:
I saw some things that skeeved me out but they were the same things that me and Sprit hammered on for three days in Mega Man. I don't want to do that again.

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I’m still here. Just having a hard time getting back into mafia :(

I’ll try to get caught up tonight. Sorry everyone!
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speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:12 pm Colin's ISO gives me so many mixed feelings it's like I'm starring in a Hallmark movie. I don't like that his list of suspects doesn't have explanations. I looked back for those explanations to check on them. Two of them were simply quoted with a "LMAO" added. Another one or two were "I agree" on someone else's post.

I don't really have a sight line into Colin's think hole, but that's the very problem. I can't tell what the dude is thinking. -1 points
Lmao = “You’re deflecting to the thread to cast your vote for you? And people are giving me shit?”

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Sorsha wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:26 pm I’m still here. Just having a hard time getting back into mafia :(

I’ll try to get caught up tonight. Sorry everyone!
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ColinIsCool wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:27 pm
speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:12 pm Colin's ISO gives me so many mixed feelings it's like I'm starring in a Hallmark movie. I don't like that his list of suspects doesn't have explanations. I looked back for those explanations to check on them. Two of them were simply quoted with a "LMAO" added. Another one or two were "I agree" on someone else's post.

I don't really have a sight line into Colin's think hole, but that's the very problem. I can't tell what the dude is thinking. -1 points
Lmao = “You’re deflecting to the thread to cast your vote for you? And people are giving me shit?”

Somehow, it happened twice.
Somehow the nuance of context disappears when I ISO
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Re: Mafia: A World Asunder - GAME THREAD [Night 1]

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speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:36 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:27 pm
speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:12 pm Colin's ISO gives me so many mixed feelings it's like I'm starring in a Hallmark movie. I don't like that his list of suspects doesn't have explanations. I looked back for those explanations to check on them. Two of them were simply quoted with a "LMAO" added. Another one or two were "I agree" on someone else's post.

I don't really have a sight line into Colin's think hole, but that's the very problem. I can't tell what the dude is thinking. -1 points
Lmao = “You’re deflecting to the thread to cast your vote for you? And people are giving me shit?”

Somehow, it happened twice.
Somehow the nuance of context disappears when I ISO
Well, I don’t blame you much for not fully understanding my posts considering they were very flippant, but I do blame the whole thread as a collective for not seeing this shit.
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Sorsha wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:26 pm I’m still here. Just having a hard time getting back into mafia :(

I’ll try to get caught up tonight. Sorry everyone!
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:19 pm Nah the most important role is the bulletproof lie detector.

That shit is so OP I give a 50% it will turn hostile at some point.
I'd like to introduce you to AlsakaDave, the Psionic Ninja from A World Apart who got recruited by Dark Willow and won the game as a baddie.

After that I'll introduce you to Golden, the Psionic Ninja from A World Reborn who got recruited by Sorsha and won the game as a baddie.
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I said I would respond with thoughts after work and Ohhh I dont know everyone is so hard to read this game so far. I have a few thoughts but nothing profound really.

Nova still hasn't shown so well see what happens there.
Dana just recently started and mostly discussed game mechanic questions but theres so much to read I can see why if she wasn't here initially.

I can see the case on juliet's as it's a lot of just agreeing or responding to things rather than new ideas. I know I've played with her before but honestly dont remember when or what games.

Sig I can see how their behavior at end of day could be deemed kind of suspicious it was a little all over the place which could have been to make the wolbre vote look more random than it really was.

Quin eh he was bad last game and acted similarly but I get the feeling that's just him and him pushing people away could be a way to hide teammates or just some inside joke I'm not aware of with other players.

Colin I'm not sure about because he said I'm gonna bandwagon vote DDL without any real reason and then doesn't contribute anything else really. I did notice the few posts that were quotes with just lmao or like or something similar.


Sloonei talks a lot and changes his mind a lot but he does get conversations going and people talking. I'm not entirely sure how to feel about it as he got really defensive when the votes were on him. It's hard to read all of his posts but I know hes changed who he's suspecting many times. Which isn't to say he hasn't made some good points.

There was some stuff about gman but I have no idea I couldnt get much from his posts.

I'll have to look at mac and timmer as well as they were also wolbre voters.
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Just a few general comments before I address these points. As a couple of people have pointed out, my mafia style is to ask a lot of questions of people. It's how I process information in a mafia game. If something doesn't make sense to me I ask, if I don't understand someone's vote I ask. At times, if I want to make a point I ask about it. Also, if people are talking about a person's behavior but no one has asked the person directly to address that behavior or action, I will ask. I did that with Tranq once yesterday and it seems like it did it with sig. The important thing about my question asking is it helps me form opinions. I then try to understand the other side of the story, whatever that may be. A lot of this goes on in my head and not necessarily the thread. I normally thank people for their answers and sometimes I file their answers away for further thought and other times I may make a comment if I like the answer or ask another question if I have a follow up.

Day 1's in particular are usually difficult for me. I'm considering every conceivable possibility for actions and reactions and the game is at it's maximum number of players so there is a lot running through my head. This leads to indecisiveness in my early game. DDL I think called me passive and that may be one way to think about it but still waters run deep. What may seem like inactivity on the outside rarely indicates what is going on inside with me. As the game goes on things start to gel for me I become more comfortable with my decisions. I still ask questions though.

Ok, as for the mechanics of answering Sloonei I am not very good at chopping up these posts so I'm just going to answer after the post in blue.

Sloonei wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:40 pm
juliets wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:03 am Good morning everyone, we play at last! sabie12 so glad to have you back with us. And so glad to have you guys I've played mafia with for the most years - Tranq, S~V~S, Lorab and Sorsha. Hope I didn't miss anyone.

I also have no idea what the poll means so I'm going to wait to vote in it until there is some more discussion around it. Also, I will be at work today from 8:30 until this afternoon without access to the thread so I'm sure I'll come home to an explosion! Ok, so later.
The hardest part of trying to construct a case against juliets is that she's the human embodiment of warmth and kindness. Lose all emotional affect.
juliets wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:22 pm
Turnip Head wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:39 pm
Tranq wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:21 pm These poll options seem quite meaningless.

Are people voting randomly or what?
The Tribunal of Judgment is from A World Apart, it was three civvies with BTSC plus a lynch switch and pardon. Seems pro-town imo
Wait a minute, I remember a game where I was part of a 3 civ group with BTSC that was a LC/BR game - was that World Apart? I can't remember mafia games years after I've played them at all. Anyway, I agree this sounds like a pro-town option so that's where I'm voting.
Similar to sig, this post has a "How do you do, fellow town?" vibe. She makes a deliberate point to frame her chosen option as pro-town before casting the vote. I'm skeptical.

I don't know what you mean by me making a deliberate point to frame my chosen option as pro town. The memory of being in a three way civ btsc was just that - there was no other point there. I remembered it, I said it. Note that I start the second with the word "Anyway" - that meant "back to the topic" or "putting all that aside" and then "I agree it sounds pro-town". It sounded pro-town because of TH's association with a prior civ faction in a past LC-BR game. Made perfect sense to me as soon as I read it. If you still have questions about this please ask, I could have missed your point completely.
juliets wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:38 am
Sloonei wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:18 am Good news! Votes are indeed changeable, and I put mine on Tranq. Aubergine.
Sloonei, sorry if I missed your reasoning but what did you see about Tranq that made you put a vote on him?
Her first game-relevant action is to ask me about my Tranq vote. I don't know what she did with this question.

Your first answer iirc was you put a vote on Tranq just to spur discussion. That to me meant you didn't see anything that warranted a vote so there was nothing that I might have missed about Tranq's behavior from your vantage point. I almost always ask why someone voted if they don't give a reason, I am suspect when people don't give one, though I have to remember that it may just be a pressure vote or a stir conversation vote. Usually that comes out at some later time though. Note it turned out your answer here was not your final answer as I remember it.
juliets wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:50 pm
colonialbob wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:25 pm
colonialbob wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:48 am Hmm good, we've started actually playing.

Epi, you still feeling DDL?

SVS could be obliquely defending sabie or poking Sloonei. Not a big fan of sabie's response.

Jackofhearts2005 want to trust team? Coming back to a 30 player fancy game is intimidating and I need to find a handhold somewhere.
Update: I no longer want to trust team you.

Looks like a lot of people busy this weekend... including me (as I will be away most of today).

[VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine
So bob, you mention Epi's DDL suspicion and say you are not a fan of sable's responses but then vote Colin. Could you share why you voted him?
Similar question for cbob. In both cases her response was simply to say "thanks." You're welcome.

I initially thought his response was odd but I held that to myself. Then, he later said he had a reason for the vote but didn't want to share it yet until he saw Colin's response. Later in the game I asked him to share his real reason since Colin wasn't around to be pressured and he did. At that point I understood his answer and decided I didn't see him as suspicious. (He also taught me something about mafia I had never thought about in his post and that is if you don't give a reason if forces others to give their own reason if they bandwagon on.)
juliets wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:45 pm
Sloonei wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:24 pm
juliets wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:00 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:37 pm
Tranq wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:21 pm These poll options seem quite meaningless.

Are people voting randomly or what?
As someone who has played several LC/BR games I don't know if I believe that you believe that anything in the game is meaningless.
This is why I voted for Tranq.
Ah, ok thanks Sloonei.
Do you have an opinion on this?

I can't remember the sequence of events perfectly but I think this was the real answer to the question I had asked earlier about voting for Tranq and isn't this when I decided to ask Tranq directly about this issue? He replied and I believed him because I went and looked up the truthfulness of what he was saying. As for your answer, I believe thought it was ok at that time. The reasoning was something I could understand. If your answer came after Tranq's explanation then I was remiss in not asking you what you thought about his explanation.
After thinking about it, I don't understand why Tranq said that after having played Long Rock games in the past, so maybe I should just ask him: @Tranq what made you say this after having played their games in the past where the polls - especially the first poll - were meaningful?

Also though, I'm less inclined to vote on day 1 one of the people who has been gone for years from our site. I'm not saying I won't vote for one but the evidence would have to be strong.

lots of linki which I will read after posting
Past-Sloonei was on the ball, though, and didn't let her off the hook that easy. She responded by essentially parroting the concern and then asking Tranq to explain his post, but then expressed hesitation about voting for players in Tranq's situation. In other words, she doesn't do much.

Ok here's the quote I was just talking about. I disagree that I didn't do much. I waited for his answer, double checked it, and decided he was telling the truth. I expressed in the thread that I believed him and why. Also, as a matter of personal policy I try not to vote for brand new people or people that have returned from a long absence on Day 1. Day 1 only though.
juliets wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:14 pm
Tranq wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:58 pm I'm glad you asked, juliets.

Note i said poll options, not polls. LC/BR polls are always important.
A World Reborn's Day 0 poll options were literally meaningless. Players had to choose between Prog and other music genres. Poll options had nothing to do with the lore of the game. The outcome of the poll, however, did.
I did a quick search on these poll options and didn't find anything meaningful, and made my post.
huh, you're right. I went back and looked at the game and indeed the poll options were just music genres but the poll outcome was those that those who voted one of the options got taken off the day 1 poll. So, I see what you mean about the difference between options and polls so this explanation rings true to me. Thanks for explaining.
Accepts Tranq's response without criticism.

Yes, what criticism did you expect me to make? I double checked what Tranq said by going back and looking at the game and found he was correct. His explanation to me was believable. If it wasn't believable to you why didn't you say something?

juliets wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:14 pm
Lunalee wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:11 pm
S~V~S wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:05 pm
Lunalee wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:59 pm
timmer wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:43 pm
Lunalee wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:30 pm
Hey SVS, I don't know if I've played with you before, but I've seen you around and sort of know about you. My valid suspicion of Colin shows that day one can contain valid suspicions. Mac doesn't think so, and therefore thinks I "attacked" nutella for no reason over her (in my opinon) completely invalid Jack suspicion. Does that clear things up for you?
Out of curiosity, what do you sort of know about S~V~S?
So um, speedchuck played game of champions with her last year, before I even joined the site, and he ranted to me about her suspecting him. XD
Yeah he aggressively defended the guy with the blinking neon "Baddie" sign on his head. Good times.

If people who know you better than I that I feel ok about tell me this is your norm, I am open to moving my vote. Plenty of day one weirdness in this thread lol.

But for now I'm good.
I would like to tell you a list of references who can attest to my civ game, but I get mislynched pretty often, because apparently I don't know how to play like a civ.
Luna does seem to get mislynched but I think it's because we don't know how to read her more than it is she doesn't know how to play like a civ. I thought her question to nutella was good, I also wondered if she was voting based on Hogwarts or something she has seen this game.
Vaguely vouches for luna while just-as-vaguely criticizing nutella, but I don't actually see a read on either player in this game right now. Not ideal.

That's not a vague vouch. That's me telling S~V~S my opinion that Luna gets mislynched often - my mind was on Hogwarts - more because we don't understand her game than because she's not a good civ. That's not the same as me saying "I think Luna is good this game". Luna had said it was because she didn't know how to play as a civ and I thought that was a harsh self-assessment. My feelings about Luna vacillated during the day yesterday. I also said what I said about nutella because I had asked nut in the thread about her Jack vote, not because I was criticizing her. I didn't know the reason for her vote yet, how could I criticize a reason I didn't have? My read on nutella at this point is civ.
juliets wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:45 am I appreciate Epi's pointing out some oddities in Sloonei's posts because Sloonei is a tough nut to crack for me. He had me completely snowed in a game I played with him earlier this year where he was bad. But I agree with Sloonei's point that he doesn't think this is a sincere case. I think it's a bold move to enhance conversation.
Juliets is mostly just posting to express agreement with things. Is this normal for her?

I express both agreement and disagreement, and maybe I do express agreement more often. I've never taken notice but I'm somewhat conflict averse as a person so it's certainly possible.
juliets wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:55 am Something is bothering me about G-Man but I can't put my finger on it. I was not a fan of his post calling DH short sighted and dismissive. Maybe it's just the tone which isn't necessarily alignment indicative. Anyway, I agree with DDL, I'd like to see more from G-Man today.
This is one of my Red Flag statements. I always perk up when I see someone thrust such a vague suspicion on a person. Qualify that junk! Otherwise it can just be read as phony bandwagoning. Not a good look for juliets.

Is it no longer ok to express gut feels? I qualified it as much as I could by saying I didn't like his calling out DH. Not expressing gut reads will hamper me in this game because sometimes I am unable to pin down an exact reason I feel uncomfortable with someone.
juliets wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:39 am Ok, I found this quote from Mac:
MacDougall wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:53 pm Oh I just read some Jack posts that pinged me. There's no actual case there.
Mac, would you share what posts pinged you?
Puts her attention on the Jack case, but... I don't see her actually doing much here.

I couldn't see anything wrong with Jack which is why I was asking nutella and Mac for their reads. I don't remember Mac answering though I could have missed it. I couldn't really do anything with the information because I didn't have the information.

There's a lot of the same for a while, then this:
juliets wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:32 pm I have to leave for awhile, I was hoping sig would post his walk-through before I had to go. For now, I'm going to vote for Wilgy.

@DrWilgy if you come online would please explain your vote for c-bob and tell us a little bit about your reads or suspicions or anything game related except mechanics?

I will be back after I have done my physical therapy. I will not, btw, be here for EOD. Way past my bedtime.
Yuck. Taken with the rest of Juliets' ISO, this vote is supremely weak. I can't identify a single read juliets has made this game, and her vote is on the established lazy low-poster option. Not good.

I'm sorry you didn't like my vote but I didn't like Wilgy's behavior on day 1 so I voted for him. Maybe you haven't been in some of these games where we were burned by low-lying baddies. It's now one of the things I really look out for. I called out INH in Hogwarts for it and he slammed me but guess what - he was bad.

And then there's a couple more posts where she reacts to other people saying things without taking a stance. I have a definitive beef here. Juliets has spent most of the day agreeing with people and asking straightforward questions. I do not see a single read on a player anywhere in these posts, and I see no evidence that she's actively working with the information gained from any of the questions she's asked. I could get behind a juliets case.

@juliets, what are your reads on nutella and luna?

As I said earlier, my feelings about luna have vacillated during day 1 but if we are playing GTH - which by the way, is all about the gut - I would say civ. And I think I said above I see nutella as good.
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Oh my, that post is so long. If there are any questions please let me know.
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speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:55 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:52 pm
S~V~S wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:12 am Also again, asking people who were here eod to give their takes on what happened in here. That could help us who weren't understand it better.
The way I see, Wolbre made a direct challenge against a force no one controls and few really comprehend: people's will to make stupid wagons on Day 1. You don't challenge Day 1 like that. You must respect it, bow to it, do what it wants. It's an unforgiving mistress. If will spot a player making fun of its wrath and bury them under 10 bandwagon votes.

I don't blame anyone for voting Wolbre tbh. He literally begged for it. Though I'd still find it useful to figure out any people who did it while stating terrible reasons for it.
I skimmed that EOD and it was some of the most hilarious play I've ever seen. Terrible decisions were made, but it was hilarious. @wolbre04 you are my hero this game. Please play more with us.
That's rich coming from someone who wasn't here. Wolbre literally should change his name to Do it bitch.
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speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:56 pm What's your read on Sloonei? What's your read on anyone not named Sloonei?
Decent guy. His play reminds me of his Mega Man mafia play, which I dearly wanted to lynch him over at the time. Some isolated things about the way he defends himself seem scummy, but just based on what I've read I'm pretty sure he's town. He does have an odd way of talking in third person, though.

I also agreed with his case on Juliets. I was already looking at her because of a post after the D1 lynch where she apologized like, really hard. Looked like scum guilt. I don't know whether she voted on his lynch or not, though. Light-to-mid scumread there.

Epi is town.

Nutella is town.

DDL... I'm leaning town.

Leaning town on Luna as well. I think I'm starting to get a handle on her playstyle. It's mostly a gut feel based on how snarky and up-front she's been about her play, in the few posts I've seen. Very transparent in playstyle, in her defense of Wolbre and everyone's reaction to that.

So there's a few. I want to read over some Colin stuff next, I think. If you have any suggestions for me to skim ISOs of today (tonight?) then I'm game.
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DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:08 am
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:07 am
juliets wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:32 pm I have to leave for awhile, I was hoping sig would post his walk-through before I had to go. For now, I'm going to vote for Wilgy.

@DrWilgy if you come online would please explain your vote for c-bob and tell us a little bit about your reads or suspicions or anything game related except mechanics?

I will be back after I have done my physical therapy. I will not, btw, be here for EOD. Way past my bedtime.
I did it to tie the game earlier lol. Didn't have time to double check since then.

Wow now he shows up. How was Baddie BTSC there for that stretch of time you almost got lynched my dude?
Didn't even know I was up to lynch. Was it close? Would the sting hurt?
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insertnamehere wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
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speedchuck wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:48 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:35 pm And when he has kind of taken stances (on you for instance) it's been worded in an indirect/backhanded way.
I'm curious as to what stances (other than Sloonei) you've seen that are indirect or backhanded. Cite your sources.
I'm also wondering why any of this would point to me being scum.
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DrWilgy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:48 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:08 am
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:07 am
juliets wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:32 pm I have to leave for awhile, I was hoping sig would post his walk-through before I had to go. For now, I'm going to vote for Wilgy.

@DrWilgy if you come online would please explain your vote for c-bob and tell us a little bit about your reads or suspicions or anything game related except mechanics?

I will be back after I have done my physical therapy. I will not, btw, be here for EOD. Way past my bedtime.
I did it to tie the game earlier lol. Didn't have time to double check since then.

Wow now he shows up. How was Baddie BTSC there for that stretch of time you almost got lynched my dude?
Didn't even know I was up to lynch. Was it close? Would the sting hurt?
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Juliets I ain't reading dat
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DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:52 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:48 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:08 am
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:07 am
juliets wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:32 pm I have to leave for awhile, I was hoping sig would post his walk-through before I had to go. For now, I'm going to vote for Wilgy.

@DrWilgy if you come online would please explain your vote for c-bob and tell us a little bit about your reads or suspicions or anything game related except mechanics?

I will be back after I have done my physical therapy. I will not, btw, be here for EOD. Way past my bedtime.
I did it to tie the game earlier lol. Didn't have time to double check since then.

Wow now he shows up. How was Baddie BTSC there for that stretch of time you almost got lynched my dude?
Didn't even know I was up to lynch. Was it close? Would the sting hurt?
Cool.
Remember when Wilgy was one of us. Back when he was in med school. Now he is all grown up and is no longer one of us and it pains me DharmaHelper. It pains me so.
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I still want to lynch Enrique. The universe tried to give him to us and we ignored it. Not good.
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Sloonei wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:43 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:40 pm Sloonei - Voting for anyone based on other people's reasons for suspecting people is suspicious to me. Make your own points. Stand on your own ground.
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I’m pocketed af.
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MacDougall wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:58 pm I still want to lynch Enrique. The universe tried to give him to us and we ignored it. Not good.
I love new types of reads and will be so happy to share your dreamread with MU chat when this game is over.
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