[END] The Syndicate's 2013 Game of Champions

#1251

EBWOP: Mentally delete the period after "STOP" when reading the above post, please.

#1252

Finally! If I never have to type those lyrics again it will be too soon.

Russtifinko wrote: At this point, we might as well try the same lynch we did today tomorrow, since double targeting is not allowed.

I don't see why not. Hopefully Media is less powerful tonight anyway.

Don't know who I want to vote for tonight. I'm not sure yet who I think is most trustworthy, so I might leave it for a while.

#1253

I'm going to nominate Russ as an apology for convicting him in complete error.

#1254

reywaS wrote:
Dom wrote:
DFaraday wrote:I voted for the obvious candidate, and to him I say, "You're going to reap just what you sow." And MP, while waiting for the lynch post, you just keep me hanging on.

Am I the only one around here who's actually trying to fit the lyrics into sentences?
Yes,

I think Rey might be too

You're going to reap just what you sow
You're going to reap just what you sow

BWT was as well I noted.

I am going to vote Elohcin this round.

Also, I think all discussion of tomorrow vote should stop during the night if we suspect Zodac can eliminate one of us. I have no idea who I will vote for tomorrow is what I am saying right now.

Not around mich today I think.

#1255

Finally caught up u.u

I'm finding that I'm not on the same page as most people, when I read Lizzy's post and then the exchange where someone figured it out I thought it was fishy, not brilliant.

I'm finding that I agree with BWT and i forget who else that are questioning Epi's motives-

Still don't trust nevinera either,

Why are people voting for Elohcin, has she even posted? o.O;

Also, very surprised that MP revealed the role of the person he mod-killed - added bonus!

I am getting good vibes from bea, I think I'll vote for her to have the shield

#1256

I voted for Kate. Seems like a safe choice to me at current.

#1257

blindfaeth wrote:Finally caught up u.u

I'm finding that I'm not on the same page as most people, when I read Lizzy's post and then the exchange where someone figured it out I thought it was fishy, not brilliant.

I'm so glad it's not just me. I found the Lizzy voters quite curious.

#1258

I think Lizzy should have the shield k

#1259

Hey everyone! I will be gone for dinner tonight; thus, I am thinking the night post will be somewhat late, but it will definitely be up within a few hours of the deadline max.

This does not change the deadline for PMs or voting.

Considering Tuesday is the next deadline and I won't get out of teaching until 9:00PM then anyway, it would have to be pushed back inevitably. Sorry for the somewhat inconsistent times! After Tuesday I'll try to get us back closer to like 7:00PM EST.

#1260

insertnamehere wrote:Voted for the obvious best choice

Ditto

It's the only person I fully trust so far!
Hopefully that will change soon :/

#1261

I voted for Dharmahelper.

I'd also like to express my desire to lynch Lizzie. Would have liked to do it yesterday, but obviously people really wanted to try lynching that one person again.

#1262

I voted for me last night. Thanks Ace

#1263

Only have a sec. Voting me not sure I trust anyone else uet.

#1264

Ebwop: thx rey!

#1265

Hey all. I'm sorry I have been so busy this weekend. We had family over yesterday and today I am working on a cake. But, I see I have two votes for getting the shield already. I remember it from MOTU Mafia. I will vote myself

#1266

blindfaeth wrote: Still don't trust nevinera either,

I am getting good vibes from bea, I think I'll vote for her to have the shield

No one ever seems to. I've learned to work around that handicap though.

#1267

#1268

Hedgeowl wrote:
Also, I think all discussion of tomorrow vote should stop during the night if we suspect Zodac can eliminate one of us. I have no idea who I will vote for tomorrow is what I am saying right now.

Not around mich today I think.

Hedge, as I understand it, Zodac can only eliminate one of 2 people he already targeted last night, so it's too late to save anyone by not talking. We shouldn't discuss new candidates for lynch overnight, but since he can't double-target, talking about lynching Media is harmless.

AceofSpaces wrote:I voted for Dharmahelper.

I'd also like to express my desire to lynch Lizzie. Would have liked to do it yesterday, but obviously people really wanted to try lynching that one person again.

Ace, why did/do you want to vote Lizzy?

#1269

Never mind, I read back on your posts. I don't see it, personally, but who knows? You could be right. I just read that as Lizzy being curious/intrigued, and not indicative of alignment.

#1270

Russtifinko wrote:Never mind, I read back on your posts. I don't see it, personally, but who knows? You could be right. I just read that as Lizzy being curious/intrigued, and not indicative of alignment.

KRussti, are you doing your thing again? That one where you are siding with me and are very nice, polite and charming so it would break my heart to even consider suspecting you, when in fact you are... kinda bad?

#1271

Lizzy wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:Never mind, I read back on your posts. I don't see it, personally, but who knows? You could be right. I just read that as Lizzy being curious/intrigued, and not indicative of alignment.
KRussti, are you doing your thing again? That one where you are siding with me and are very nice, polite and charming so it would break my heart to even consider suspecting you, when in fact you are... kinda bad?

Ugh, I know. i hate it when he does that cause he is so damn good at it.

That is what I meant Russti, we should not discuss who we want to lynch at all tomorrow. So stop doing it k?

#1272

reywaS wrote:
Dom wrote:
DFaraday wrote:I voted for the obvious candidate, and to him I say, "You're going to reap just what you sow." And MP, while waiting for the lynch post, you just keep me hanging on.

Am I the only one around here who's actually trying to fit the lyrics into sentences?
Yes,

I think Rey might be too

You're going to reap just what you sow
You're going to reap just what you sow

I meant working them into the post, but I then realized that you weren't even crused.

I'm voting for Elo.

#1273

Dom wrote:
I'm voting for Elo.

Why? Epig's vote I understand but you and Hedge are putting a lot of trust into someone who has posted all of 9 times and not really said much... I don't get it.

#1274

I'm not getting the Elo bandwagon either. And I was going to vote Lizzy, but then she up and voted for the sexy mofo, which is confusing as all hell. Maybe I should just self-vote in this case... People who are thinking bea, can you point to anything in particular that gives you good vibes?

#1275

Bullzeye wrote:
Dom wrote:
I'm voting for Elo.
Why? Epig's vote I understand but you and Hedge are putting a lot of trust into someone who has posted all of 9 times and not really said much... I don't get it.

Yep Ditto.

#1276

Epi has a history of know civ Elo and its annoying when you are a baddie with her, but yeah it makes me trust his judgement on her. I will be burned by this when they are baddies and cant guarantee that they are not, but I feel better about this choice for now.

#1277

Hedgeowl wrote:Epi has a history of know civ Elo and its annoying when you are a baddie with her, but yeah it makes me trust his judgement on her. I will be burned by this when they are baddies and cant guarantee that they are not, but I feel better about this choice for now.

So basically you're voting her because Epi did? I guess I just don't agree with the reasoning. Maybe it is a civ Epi noticing a civ Elo but that's just one of many factors. She could've gotten better at fooling him, they could be bad together, he could be a baddie trying to set her up, or a baddie trying to make her think he's civ by supporting her. There's no way to know and I wouldn't want to base my vote on his or anyone else's in that way.

I'm gonna vote for myself actually, there's nobody I majorly trust at this point.

#1278

thellama73 wrote:I think I will vote for Bea. She is seeming really civvie to me this game.

I did something similar.

#1279

Bullzeye wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:Epi has a history of know civ Elo and its annoying when you are a baddie with her, but yeah it makes me trust his judgement on her. I will be burned by this when they are baddies and cant guarantee that they are not, but I feel better about this choice for now.
So basically you're voting her because Epi did? I guess I just don't agree with the reasoning. Maybe it is a civ Epi noticing a civ Elo but that's just one of many factors. She could've gotten better at fooling him, they could be bad together, he could be a baddie trying to set her up, or a baddie trying to make her think he's civ by supporting her. There's no way to know and I wouldn't want to base my vote on his or anyone else's in that way.

I'm gonna vote for myself actually, there's nobody I majorly trust at this point.

I can see that from your perspective, but I played a lot of games in a row with both of them where this came up recently, so I have thought about it quite a bit as I am sure several other players in those games have as well. Also, I think a baddie Elo would be posting more. She tried really hard when she replced in as a baddie in Agods with DF and I, but Epi saw through her sock very quickly and then quickly pursued her as bad. If he were bad and thought she was on another baddie team, he would totally go for her I think.

This is all my personal impressions and Epi could totally say I am completely wrong, but thats how I making my decision. Which frankly had a lot more thought behind it then many of the votes, so I dont see a problem with it. I have to vote for someone and no one wins if we all vote ourselves.

#1280

INSERTNAMEHERE 2014

#1281

Hedgeowl wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:Epi has a history of know civ Elo and its annoying when you are a baddie with her, but yeah it makes me trust his judgement on her. I will be burned by this when they are baddies and cant guarantee that they are not, but I feel better about this choice for now.
So basically you're voting her because Epi did? I guess I just don't agree with the reasoning. Maybe it is a civ Epi noticing a civ Elo but that's just one of maEpiny factors. She could've gotten better at fooling him, they could be bad together, he could be a baddie trying to set her up, or a baddie trying to make her think he's civ by supporting her. There's no way to know and I wouldn't want to base my vote on his or anyone else's in that way.

I'm gonna vote for myself actually, there's nobody I majorly trust at this point.
I can see that from your perspective, but I played a lot of games in a row with both of them where this came up recently, so I have thought about it quite a bit as I am sure several other players in those games have as well. Also, I think a baddie Elo would be posting more. She tried really hard when she replced in as a baddie in Agods with DF and I, but Epi saw through her sock very quickly and then quickly pursued her as bad. If he were bad and thought she was on another baddie team, he would totally go for her I think.

This is all my personal impressions and Epi could totally say I am completely wrong, but thats how I making my decision. Which frankly had a lot more thought behind it then many of the votes, so I dont see a problem with it. I have to vote for someone and no one wins if we all vote ourselves.

Hedge, I've been in those same games where Eloh has turned out to be good when Epig stood up for her and then when Eloh was bad in the game i co-hosted with SVS, Epig was all over it. So I am considering that as I make a decision on who to vote. I also think bea is on her civvie game, but when it gets down to it with either one of them I don't absolutely trust anyone. Voting for myself though, as the only one i trust, would just result in spreading the vote more.

So, maybe I will flip a coin but I'm going to take just a little bit longer to consider what to do.

#1282

I don't get the logic for Lizzy, especially given she supported the wacky software idea. And the people voting for Elo because Epig sees her civ game doesn't fly with me. Although I hardly ever buy the "Because I know the person better IRL, I'm better at reading them" argument. I think all the times MP and I have been wrong about each other is enough evidence of that lol.

I am however willing to throw a vote toward bea. She seems fairly involved and is asking lots of questions and examining multiple aspects, which I generally like to see from her.

#1283

birdwithteeth11 wrote:I don't get the logic for Lizzy, especially given she supported the wacky software idea. And the people voting for Elo because Epig sees her civ game doesn't fly with me. Although I hardly ever buy the "Because I know the person better IRL, I'm better at reading them" argument. I think all the times MP and I have been wrong about each other is enough evidence of that lol.

I am however willing to throw a vote toward bea. She seems fairly involved and is asking lots of questions and examining multiple aspects, which I generally like to see from her.

Are you and MP intimate?

#1284

hahahahahaha!

Ok, I'm tired of pondering on this and going to throw my vote to bea.

#1285

Why should you vote for me?

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Here's 17 gifs of cute animals hugging things!

#1286

Bullzeye wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:Epi has a history of know civ Elo and its annoying when you are a baddie with her, but yeah it makes me trust his judgement on her. I will be burned by this when they are baddies and cant guarantee that they are not, but I feel better about this choice for now.
So basically you're voting her because Epi did? I guess I just don't agree with the reasoning. Maybe it is a civ Epi noticing a civ Elo but that's just one of many factors. She could've gotten better at fooling him, they could be bad together, he could be a baddie trying to set her up, or a baddie trying to make her think he's civ by supporting her. There's no way to know and I wouldn't want to base my vote on his or anyone else's in that way.

I'm gonna vote for myself actually, there's nobody I majorly trust at this point.

I see two scenarios in which we should be concerned:
1) Elo is bad and Epig is bad
2) Elo is bad and Epig is good.

Epig's alignment really has nothing to do with whether Elo is good or not.

Interesting that people called four people voting Elo a bandwagon and then Bea got six votes.

#1287

wow guys! I'm touched. Truely.

Of the people with votes, I know I'm 100% civ and trustworthy and cute. (if not rather awkward and clumsy, that just adds to my cute though really.)

Not really sure of anyone else, but of the people getting votes, Kate hasn't really sparked any "wait wot?" from me yet, so my vote is going there.

I'm in general unsure of the whole Epi/Elo thing. I couldn't read my hubby for crap when we played together, but then again, I can't really read my very good friends for crap either. IDK - I know they were baddies together in Grimm though so that whole scenario where they are both bad has happened before. I can't really say he did any vouching there. IDK.

I also have to admit, the cute kittens did alllllllmost make me think about taking the bribe for like .000000001 second. (wot? I like kittens.

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vote Kate

@ dom - I just skimmed the thread pretty quickly as I'm running hecka behind today - but were any of the people that voted for me also the ones calling the bandwagon?

#1288

Bea, how could you turn your back on the kittens, you monster...

#1289

Dom wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:Epi has a history of know civ Elo and its annoying when you are a baddie with her, but yeah it makes me trust his judgement on her. I will be burned by this when they are baddies and cant guarantee that they are not, but I feel better about this choice for now.
So basically you're voting her because Epi did? I guess I just don't agree with the reasoning. Maybe it is a civ Epi noticing a civ Elo but that's just one of many factors. She could've gotten better at fooling him, they could be bad together, he could be a baddie trying to set her up, or a baddie trying to make her think he's civ by supporting her. There's no way to know and I wouldn't want to base my vote on his or anyone else's in that way.

I'm gonna vote for myself actually, there's nobody I majorly trust at this point.
I see two scenarios in which we should be concerned:
1) Elo is bad and Epig is bad
2) Elo is bad and Epig is good.

Epig's alignment really has nothing to do with whether Elo is good or not.

Interesting that people called four people voting Elo a bandwagon and then Bea got six votes.

I never used the term bandwagon. I just think it's odd how willing people are to trust Epi's instincts when we have no idea if he's trustworthy. He could be lying or wrong.

#1290

Bullz, I'm sorry I wasn't clear that I didn't mean YOU called it a bandwagon. I was speaking generally using your post as jumping point.

Boomslang voted for Bea. He called the Elo votes a bandwagon. Four elo voters. One is herself. The other is her husband. The other is me. The other is hedge. I have similar as hedge for voting Elo.

However, Boomslang votes on a person who got the 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th, and 25th votes (His being he 25th).

#1291

Hmmm...that's an interesting point Dom.

#1292

bea wrote:Hmmm...that's an interesting point Dom.

I do want to make this clear though, I do not think that voting for you is a bad idea, I just think that Boomslang is being a hypocrite.

#1293

NIGHT 2

Who should have the honor of being nominated the first shieldbearer of the Shield of Grayskull???!

Poll ended at Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:42:05 pm

AceofSpaces
0
No votes

agleaminranks
0
No votes

bea
7
thellama73 (6), blindfaeth (10), Mongoose (21), Flyin' High (22), birdwithteeth11 (23), juliets (24), Boomslang (25) 26%

BigDamnHero
0
No votes

birdwithteeth11
0
No votes

blindfaeth
0
No votes

Boomslang
0
No votes

Bullzeye
1
Bullzeye (20) 4%

Devin the Omniscient
1
Devin the Omniscient (14) 4%

DFaraday
0
No votes

DharmaHelper
2
DharmaHelper (13), AceofSpaces (15) 7%

DisgruntledPorcupine
0
No votes

Dom
0
No votes

Elohcin
5
Epignosis (3), Hedgeowl (9), Elohcin (17), Dom (19), BigDamnHero (27) 19%

Epignosis
0
No votes

Flyin' High
0
No votes

Hedgeowl
0
No votes

insertnamehere
2
insertnamehere (5), Lizzy (18) 7%

juliets
0
No votes

Kate
3
reywaS (11), Kate (16), bea (26) 11%

Lizzy
2
Russtifinko (7), Vompatti (12) 7%

Mongoose
0
No votes

Nevinera
0
No votes

reywaS
0
No votes

Russtifinko
1
Nevinera (8) 4%

Spacedaisy
0
No votes

thellama73
0
No votes

Vompatti
0
No votes

The host, of course! (host, deadies, non-players)
3
MovingPictures07 (1), S~V~S (2), kneel4justice (4) 11%
Total votes : 27

Missing votes: agleaminranks, DFaraday, DisgruntledPorcupine, Spacedaisy

#1294

Dom wrote:
bea wrote:Hmmm...that's an interesting point Dom.
I do want to make this clear though, I do not think that voting for you is a bad idea, I just think that Boomslang is being a hypocrite.

It's true, I voted for bea after many others had done so. However, I feel that the bea voters (including myself) all independently considered the evidence for her civness. You and Hedge, on the other hand, seemed to follow a train of thought that went "I think Elo is civ because Epig said so." And that's what felt like a bandwagon: jumping on the conclusion made by another charismatic player without further consideration.

#1295

DharmaHelper wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:I don't get the logic for Lizzy, especially given she supported the wacky software idea. And the people voting for Elo because Epig sees her civ game doesn't fly with me. Although I hardly ever buy the "Because I know the person better IRL, I'm better at reading them" argument. I think all the times MP and I have been wrong about each other is enough evidence of that lol.

I am however willing to throw a vote toward bea. She seems fairly involved and is asking lots of questions and examining multiple aspects, which I generally like to see from her.

Are you and MP intimate?

We're best friends IRL. So I think it's safe to say we are.

And Dom, I personally didn't think of it much as a bandwagon. I can see where Boomslang is coming from though, inasmuch as it feels like you and Hedge are simply voting Elo because you're trusting Epig to be reading his wife accurately. And to me, that's a bit of a stretch.

#1296

birdwithteeth11 wrote:because you're trusting Epig to be reading his wife accurately. And to me, that's a bit of a stretch.

SHOTS FIRED

#1297

Dom wrote:
bea wrote:Hmmm...that's an interesting point Dom.
I do want to make this clear though, I do not think that voting for you is a bad idea, I just think that Boomslang is being a hypocrite.

lol I didn't think you thought I was bad just because a lot of people seem to be good at reading my civness for once. (TBH, I know you well enough to know you would just come out and tell me you thought I was bad.

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I was more curious because I get paranoid when lots of people start agreeing with me, I think some of them might be baddies trying to kiss up to me. Not really feeling it atm from this particular group so I was wondering if you saw something I didn't.

Also - I see both sides to this thing with boomslang. I can see why he found those votes followy alongy and why you could see his vote being a little pot kettley. Don't you two do this a lot or am I remembering incorrectly?

#1298

Boomslang wrote:
Dom wrote:
bea wrote:Hmmm...that's an interesting point Dom.
I do want to make this clear though, I do not think that voting for you is a bad idea, I just think that Boomslang is being a hypocrite.
It's true, I voted for bea after many others had done so. However, I feel that the bea voters (including myself) all independently considered the evidence for her civness. You and Hedge, on the other hand, seemed to follow a train of thought that went "I think Elo is civ because Epig said so." And that's what felt like a bandwagon: jumping on the conclusion made by another charismatic player without further consideration.

agreed here completely. Trusting Epig's read of Elo when Epig's alliance is very much in question doesn't make sense to me.

#1299

WhAT DO WE WANT?

A NIGHT POST!

WHEN DO WE WANT IT?

Whenever is most convenient for you, our most glorious and socktacular host.

#1300

bea wrote:
Dom wrote:
bea wrote:Hmmm...that's an interesting point Dom.
I do want to make this clear though, I do not think that voting for you is a bad idea, I just think that Boomslang is being a hypocrite.
lol I didn't think you thought I was bad just because a lot of people seem to be good at reading my civness for once. (TBH, I know you well enough to know you would just come out and tell me you thought I was bad. )

I was more curious because I get paranoid when lots of people start agreeing with me, I think some of them might be baddies trying to kiss up to me. Not really feeling it atm from this particular group so I was wondering if you saw something I didn't.

Also - I see both sides to this thing with boomslang. I can see why he found those votes followy alongy and why you could see his vote being a little pot kettley. Don't you two do this a lot or am I remembering incorrectly?

I think we've played one game together, and I believe we were teammates. I might be wrong though.

reywaS wrote:
Boomslang wrote:
Dom wrote:
bea wrote:Hmmm...that's an interesting point Dom.
I do want to make this clear though, I do not think that voting for you is a bad idea, I just think that Boomslang is being a hypocrite.
It's true, I voted for bea after many others had done so. However, I feel that the bea voters (including myself) all independently considered the evidence for her civness. You and Hedge, on the other hand, seemed to follow a train of thought that went "I think Elo is civ because Epig said so." And that's what felt like a bandwagon: jumping on the conclusion made by another charismatic player without further consideration.
agreed here completely. Trusting Epig's read of Elo when Epig's alliance is very much in question doesn't make sense to me.

I have felt good about Epig despite our disagreements on strategy. I do not remember him being wrong about his wife as of yet. I could see him lying about this, but I don't think he is.

Who deserves to win?