Steely Dan Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Long Con]

I miss my red name. Maybe it's green because I'm very Civ?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Yay I love tearing apart silly "fishing for reaction" day 0 arguments.

Yet here you are with zero reads. What have you accomplished?

What is this, a job interview?

I don't have to accomplish shit.

This feels fake and reinforces DDL/Jay not w/w.

I felt quite the opposite to this Jack. It's a perfectly natural reaction from DDL to Jay spew.

To what?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I miss my red name. Maybe it's green because I'm very Civ?

Must be. Who else should have a green name?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I am going to watch shazam now bye.

My little sister told me she didn’t like Shazam but I informed her she was incorrect and she actually like it.

[novaselinenever]

Hello! I'm Nova and I've read the whole thread. AMA.

who's bad

you
nutella
neverwhere
elohcin
Mac

who's bad?

[novaselinenever]

I've seen 2 rainbow lists from you Jay, whole lot of orange or yellow was it? I thought we agreed on no neutral stances?

[novaselinenever]

Shit, I forgot I was playing! It's been too long.

I won't catch up now because I need to leave for trivia in like 10-20 minutes.

Who's suspicious, eh?

Novaselinenever

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I've seen 2 rainbow lists from you Jay, whole lot of orange or yellow was it? I thought we agreed on no neutral stances?

Orange is not neutral. Every player who has made at least one post has a stance. I'll update Long Con:

Long Con

[novaselinenever]

What's the deal with Speedchuck? I need some takes on him.

Linki - Oooh spicy

[JaggedJimmyJay]

you
nutella
neverwhere
elohcin
Mac

Talk about the ones that aren't nutella.

who's bad?

Top suspects:

Lunalee
nutella

[novaselinenever]

are there more recent examples of scum nova since community?

No, but I was an indie in a game on a cross-community game on Bulba.

[novaselinenever]

nova has been missing in action guys. someone send a search party...

I'm here, talk to me girl

[speedchuck]

bring it nova

Is time for round 2

Didn't end so well for you last time

this time maybe you'll be scum

[JaggedJimmyJay]

bring it nova

Is time for round 2

Didn't end so well for you last time

this time maybe you'll be scum

is he

[Jackofhearts2005]

Tbf, there’s a bunch of pretty good jokes in there.

1) yes

Every single Jack post up to that moment:

Spoiler: show

Happy Easter, ya’ll.

This band is just fantastic. By the way, which one’s Dan?

juliets good
nova bad

Do me next.

And it’s a nice one right over the plate...

It's actually so shit that I'm asking you if you believe it.

Hint - I don't think you do 'cause you bad.

Pretending you think a non-believed read is itself bad, thus you bad

Speed is bad. No doubt about that in my mind.

Regardless of alignment.

hi guys ! i haven’t played ina while ::

Hi, Kites.

In checking!

Fun having!

Skimmed 2 pages in which JJJ analyzes stuff like "hey guys" and "hi and goodnight" and assigning each entry a different alignment sticker. I'm laughing.

Implied discredit, and implied ignorance that entry posts can be read for tone even if generally featuring similar appearances, bad

I think I know all about reading tone. I literally do not see different tones in these:

Hi. And goodnight.

Hey guys

You called Matrahari good and speedchuck bad. I can even lump leetic in here, but he was wordy and gave excuses so I won't for the sake of consistency. What do you have to base Matahari's intro off of to call it a good look? Iirc you said she seems like she doesn't care? How does she not care? How does speedchuck look like he >does< care? I do not agree that you can read into tone in these two posts beyond "speed is always bad so let's start him off as bad" and I want to give Matahari civ credit because I want to. I wasn't convinced, even for Day 0 Jay-level-shit flinging and I'm gonna say what I see.

If Jay doesn’t come back to this with a Dunya scumread or something about the reads being for a reaction, I will eat my hat.

Did it help you to derive a stance on my alignment?

Not really.

That’s because you exonerated me before I had to answer to the accusation. That’s never going to get anywhere.

Implying I wanted to make an accusation out of it.

The bolded part sounds a bit like an accusation. The italicized sounds like a soft defence to the accusation.

What do you think this setup looks like?

Haven't the slightest clue. At 19, 15 vs 4 would be the closest to a raw balance. Independents change that though, as do the roles which could be anything. Who knows

I've seen you do more detailed analysis with similar levels of scarce info.

Though we did give you shit last time you did it so I get if you don't wanna do it again.

In a vacuum, there is a lot of junk unless you empty it regularly.

Also in a vacuum, I see the second post as not w/w indicative. Scum Jay doesn’t need an excuse to not do things so his teammate doesn’t need to give him that excuse.

nova’s entry post was empty, timid shite

Do you believe that?

Wrong answer, “does Jay really suspect me gooooooooooo”

I don't understand this post. What does "goooooooooooo" mean?

It’s like when you score a point in soccerball.

Yay I love tearing apart silly "fishing for reaction" day 0 arguments.

I caught you the last time we played together with D0/D1 reaction fishing.

In checking!

Fun having!

Skimmed 2 pages in which JJJ analyzes stuff like "hey guys" and "hi and goodnight" and assigning each entry a different alignment sticker. I'm laughing.

Implied discredit, and implied ignorance that entry posts can be read for tone even if generally featuring similar appearances, bad

I think I know all about reading tone. I literally do not see different tones in these:

Hi. And goodnight.

Hey guys

You called Matrahari good and speedchuck bad. I can even lump leetic in here, but he was wordy and gave excuses so I won't for the sake of consistency. What do you have to base Matahari's intro off of to call it a good look? Iirc you said she seems like she doesn't care? How does she not care? How does speedchuck look like he >does< care? I do not agree that you can read into tone in these two posts beyond "speed is always bad so let's start him off as bad" and I want to give Matahari civ credit because I want to. I wasn't convinced, even for Day 0 Jay-level-shit flinging and I'm gonna say what I see.

It’s in the punctuation and the goodnight. Matahari made it clear in three words that 1) she is here, and 2) she isn’t going to say anything. And I don’t think she looks concerned with the repercussions.

speed’s was generic.

Guess I need to preheat the oven.

Dragon D. Luffy I hate to belabor the point but I'm lost as to why you find Jay and nova's back and forth as confusing. To me it was basically "ur bad" "no ur bad" "see, ur bad" "see, ur bad" etc. What did I miss that was confusing?

hmmm.

What does "hmmm" mean here?

I don't really think Jay thinks nova is bad.

I don't think nova is bad.

Never mind.

dunya griping about my reads being fake is the worst thing in this thread. She knows me better than that.

Yeah never mind.

Yay I love tearing apart silly "fishing for reaction" day 0 arguments.

Yet here you are with zero reads. What have you accomplished?

What is this, a job interview?

I don't have to accomplish shit.

This feels fake and reinforces DDL/Jay not w/w.

Also Jay, telling lies in the internet is not nice.

buster.gif

Hahahaha - will nova and Mac be on the same side? Will they both win or lose? OR will one of them move ahead in the only game that counts?

Does Juliets know the answers to some of these questions?

OOOOooof sPiCy


Any major dude will tell you

Does anyone think that nutella found this to be spicy?

I mean if Juliets knows one of them will win, she knows Mac and Nova aren’t the same alignment. That would make her mafia and since the accusation comes from Nova, Mac mafia as well.

Saying Mac and Juliets have w/w equity right out of the gate is pretty spicy imo.

Jack reels off 12 posts in quick succession. Only one read exists in that set, and it is conditional crud: “DDL and Jay not both bad”

Poop

You’re poop.

If you're telling me you found this stuff to be "shining bright green", then I just plain don't believe you. There's almost nothing there. That doesn't mean you have to read him as suspicious, but a brilliant town read to such an extent that you need to defend him while a different town read is giving him shit?

No.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Why not? I wouldn't say you are one of the most dangerous players to accuse. You aren't particularly prone to have aggressive reactions to it.

It's not "aggression" I refer to as much as "persistence". All three of Jack, juliets, and I are players who are likely to engage in a prolonged interaction which forces a mafioso accuser to continuously make posts.

I don't think it's a terribly important point though. I was more trying to speak Jack's language.

The idea of any wolf being scared of me has long since been discredited. I will case a wolf dead to rights and get them lynched and they will do ballsy interactions with me the very next game. I’ve watched Bob and Speed both do it. I’ve never read a scumchat where someone is scared of me, even when I’ve got their buddy’s pelt on my wall. I’m not trying to be humble. I’m a pretty decent town player. I just don’t buy anyone being town for engaging with me early

And like I said earlier, there is no avoiding you.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I've decided to claim my role, or at least part of it. I don't want it causing problems later in the game, because it's not one that has typical civilian utility. It can be helpful in a very specific way, but only with some luck as I see it.

My ability amounts to giving someone else a posting restriction of a nature that I will not share. It's not quite insanification if handled effectively.

[novaselinenever]

you
nutella
neverwhere
elohcin
Mac

Talk about the ones that aren't nutella.

who's bad?

Top suspects:

Lunalee
nutella

Not fond of Never's entry. It came after a few pages of discussion that she seemed to avoid, and rather concentrate on the poll voting issues. It's in contrast with Kites that came in around the same time, and while he didn't say much in opinions, he at least acknowledge what was going on. That plus the fact she hasn't posted since. Default bad + gut red bad is bulletproof.

I have beef with Eloh's read posts. Too much neutral and easy reads. First of, the legend is irking me lol. Second, I don't buy a green Luna while almost everyone else is Yellow and DDL as a non-memorable poster when Luna isn't. He's had more posts and opinions than her, and I don't believe she's unable to take a stance on him from them. Also most of her reads appear to be derived from cheap takes such as "I agree with [insert something one said]" or nit-picky posts when it's a red read. The whole tangent on nutella about the lyrics is original, I'd give her that, but how on earth is she using them to avoid contributing lol? It's disingenuous. It's not like they're the only thing she posts. Don't get me started on the brakes she put on her read immediately, nor the Matahari red read.

Mac's shady. I don't like the way he flooded the thread à la Jack with a whole bunch of disorganized quotes when he was prodded. It strikes me more as an attempt to bigger his reach, making himself memorable in his contribution by quoting a whole lot of people on different issues and get a semblance of interaction going with them. I'm saying that 'cause I'm not seeing a train of thoughts emerging from them. They seem pretty arbitrary and it's mostly stuff that aren't adding much to the conversation.

You. You're bad

[novaselinenever]

bring it nova

Is time for round 2

Didn't end so well for you last time

this time maybe you'll be scum

I'm not but I think you might be

[novaselinenever]

Leetic, I'm going to need something man

[JaggedJimmyJay]

~~~reads on Neverwhere, Elohcin, and Mac~~~

I have no inspired reason to protest these reads. My impression of Elohcin's reads was more positive; it's an admirable effort from someone who'd usually dip out of the thread entirely when it moves this fast. It's a small point though. I do agree that Luna as a green skittle is goofy. They should answer to your beefs.

You. You're bad

k

[novaselinenever]

[VOTE: kites] aubergine

tell me, how do you feel about me? i need attention to grow.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Not sure why Jack's and LC's colors changed.

My color!

[novaselinenever]

I've decided to claim my role, or at least part of it. I don't want it causing problems later in the game, because it's not one that has typical civilian utility. It can be helpful in a very specific way, but only with some luck as I see it.

My ability amounts to giving someone else a posting restriction of a nature that I will not share. It's not quite insanification if handled effectively.

Are you compulsive?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Are you compulsive?

As in, am I required to use my thing? If so, I don't believe so. I still might.

[novaselinenever]

~~~reads on Neverwhere, Elohcin, and Mac~~~

I have no inspired reason to protest these reads. My impression of Elohcin's reads was more positive; it's an admirable effort from someone who'd usually dip out of the thread entirely when it moves this fast. It's a small point though. I do agree that Luna as a green skittle is goofy. They should answer to your beefs.

You. You're bad

k

What do you see in Luna? I've been known to be able to read her with slightly above average accuracy lol.

[novaselinenever]

Jack, give me a rainbow

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What do you see in Luna? I've been known to be able to read her with slightly above average accuracy lol.

Link

Primarily I'm bugged that the only inspiration she has had to say something about what is happening in the thread was about nutella's gimmick.

[speedchuck]

bring it nova

Is time for round 2

Didn't end so well for you last time

this time maybe you'll be scum

I'm not but I think you might be

No man I'm a neighborizer

[speedchuck]

bring it nova

Is time for round 2

Didn't end so well for you last time

this time maybe you'll be scum

is he

A little early to tell. I have a quindar not a novadar

[JaggedJimmyJay]

A little early to tell. I have a quindar not a novadar

trade it in at your local game stop

[Dragon D. Luffy]

To me, Jack and Daisy is the epitome of what differentiates misrepresentation from misinterpretation. I think it's the latter.

Reading posts like that at 11 PM after uni makes me want to grab that green fruit in your avatar and throw it onto the wall.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

To me, Jack and Daisy is the epitome of what differentiates misrepresentation from misinterpretation. I think it's the latter.

Reading posts like that at 11 PM after uni makes me want to grab that green fruit in your avatar and throw it onto the wall.

Given this and Daisy's laughter at the same post, I don't think my meaning was clear.

Jack had suggested that Daisy misrepresented him regarding juliets.

I think Daisy misinterpreted him instead. Misinterpretation is not suspicious; misrepresentation is suspicious.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack, give me a rainbow

Jack
Speed
Nova
Nutella
Dunya
Jay
DDL
Juliets
Daisy

Everyone else is meh.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I’m just gonna add

to my posts sometimes.
[/quote]

something funny

[Elohcin]

@Elohcin you find it odd that more people are throwing out suspicions like candy, but you are suspicious of me because I’m not?
I gave a few reasons why I’m not naming people that I think might be working together, in a later post, but I didn’t state the main reason. If I named off a couple people, (on the off-chance I was right) and they are mafia, then fine. But if they are a town team, that’s not so good. I would like to observe a little longer before I start pointing fingers.

Fair enough. But I will be waiting. I always find holding back info from fellow civs to be suspicious and unhelpful.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

are there more recent examples of scum nova since community?

I played with jester nova recently. It was fun.

(I was tunneling on nova and being 100% sure he was bad which almost caused us to lose the game)

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Everyone else is meh.

Where on the list can "meh" be inserted?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I suspect DDL more than I suspect Jay. I’m saying if either ever flips wolf, I’m trusting the other.

are you saying you suspect both of them to varying degrees then?

linki: @Matahari it means wolf/wolf

Thank you, and the others who let me know. I like it better than baddie because baddie sounds like baby talk.
These are the people I am feeling antsy about, although I don’t want to point out connections yet.
DDL, Nova, the high guy, Jack, and to a lesser degree, Jay, Juliets, the missing players.
Can’t really tell anything with Nutella right now, I hope she loses interest in song lyrics soon.
Daisy, Dunya, leaning town.
Going ISO MAC and a few others

Tons of linki again.

[VOTE: the high guy] aubergine

[Dragon D. Luffy]

(actually not voting this was just a joke)

[Jackofhearts2005]

Everyone else is meh.

Where on the list can "meh" be inserted?

You’re sitting on it.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Everyone else is meh.

Where on the list can "meh" be inserted?

You’re sitting on it.

*farts*

[Jackofhearts2005]

DDL, I got bad news for you.

Just cause a skittle is lime flavored does not mean it counts as a fruit.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I am trying to make heads or tails of this mac juliets weirdness and nope.

[speedchuck]

A little early to tell. I have a quindar not a novadar

trade it in at your local game stop

Traded it in, but all I can get for the return price is a glorfindar

[Jackofhearts2005]

A little early to tell. I have a quindar not a novadar

trade it in at your local game stop

Traded it in, but all I can get for the return price is a glorfindar

Why would you need one of those?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

A little early to tell. I have a quindar not a novadar

trade it in at your local game stop

Traded it in, but all I can get for the return price is a glorfindar

Nice

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Nutella hiding behind a posting gimmick and throwing TMI all over the place then giving weak player salad suspicions without sincerity and preempting suspicion = die.

I don't wanna parrot people but this is the third time someone attacks nutella and I agree with it.

Let's [VOTE: nutella] aubergine before Mac also joins the ranks of the "maybe nutella is a civ" crew too and I lose my point of support.

[novaselinenever]

A little early to tell. I have a quindar not a novadar

trade it in at your local game stop

Traded it in, but all I can get for the return price is a glorfindar

Nice

Can we already submit quotes? I've had a Mac one I was trying not to forget for it

[speedchuck]

A little early to tell. I have a quindar not a novadar

trade it in at your local game stop

Traded it in, but all I can get for the return price is a glorfindar

Nice

Can we already submit quotes? I've had a Mac one I was trying not to forget for it

All year bro