Steely Dan Mafia [ENDGAME]

[speedchuck]

I have not felt Mac was bad. Like at all. I’d be more inclined to vote nutella, but I don’t see good reason for that either except for jumping on nova’s joke which I didn’t think she was serious about originally.

*scribbles aggressively*

[Jackofhearts2005]

Hey my color is back.

Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?

[Spacedaisy]

I have not felt Mac was bad. Like at all. I’d be more inclined to vote nutella, but I don’t see good reason for that either except for jumping on nova’s joke which I didn’t think she was serious about originally.

Talk to me about it:

What isn't genuine about his civilian reads? The DDL one was something prompted from their interactions, and felt like natural conversation especially considering its context (The Firefly game).

He wrote a novella to explain why he read DDL as a civilian. I don't believe that was necessary, and I don't believe that's how MacDougall operates. He was similar in his handling of dunya. He technically called me light green, but I haven't the faintest idea why -- his read on me doesn't exist. He said he liked juliets because she is "more involved than usual" (no she isn't?). He loved Kites for his big reads post, which is such an easy thing to say.

Bleh.

You are poking at one post, but I look at all is posts and I see someone who seems to actually be trying to get reads on people. I don’t think looking at that one post determines a person entirely. I was more moved slightly by your case that he is afraid of you. But this is Mac, when has Mac ever seemed afraid of anything? He dgaf.

[speedchuck]

Hey my color is back.

Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?

Jack just went red, lynch him!

I'm not sure we have reason to. That's the hallmark of a good closed setup.

[nutella]

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] [mention]Spacedaisy[/mention] [mention]Matahari[/mention] [mention]juliets[/mention] [mention]novaselinenever[/mention] pls vote for mac

[JaggedJimmyJay]

You are poking at one post, but I look at all is posts and I see someone who seems to actually be trying to get reads on people. I don’t think looking at that one post determines a person entirely. I was more moved slightly by your case that he is afraid of you. But this is Mac, when has Mac ever seemed afraid of anything? He dgaf.

I am talking about numerous posts. Each of those points I made referred to something different.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Hey my color is back.

Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?

Because her personality exists.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Well, you are dead wrong. You may think I am off but I'm not. I will claim if I have to because it will be very little lost for the civs and very little gain for the mafia if they kill me.

She projected this, and I think it's authentic -- particularly her lack of enthusiasm with the role.

[juliets]

@Jackofhearts2005 @Spacedaisy @Matahari @juliets @novaselinenever pls vote for mac

nutella my vote won't be on you when this ends. I am considering Mac.

[Spacedaisy]

Alright, I just don’t give a shit right now. I’m sleep deprived, annoyed and have to go to the airport right now. So

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

I hope you’re right Jay

[juliets]

Ok I changed my vote to Mac. I feel like I should be on Jack but there's no one else feeling that.

[dunya]

I was more moved slightly by your case that he is afraid of you. But this is Mac, when has Mac ever seemed afraid of anything? He dgaf.

true, but mac does pocket people and comes across ever so accommodating like he did to jay in ass class.

fucking linki stop

[Jackofhearts2005]

Hey my color is back.

Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?

Because her personality exists.

What does that have to do with her claim?

If you (meaning anyone) just townread Juliets, okay. But all the “this is a good claim” is setting off my warning bells. It’s a claim I’ve never seen and a claim that never needs to be proven because mafia don’t shoot a night stump or whatever. It doesn’t make me suspect her more but why would it make anyone suspect her less?

[Long Con]

Mac hasn't even been here to respond to JJJ's accusation. That is unfortunate.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Hey my color is back.

Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?

Because her personality exists.

What does that have to do with her claim?

If you (meaning anyone) just townread Juliets, okay. But all the “this is a good claim” is setting off my warning bells. It’s a claim I’ve never seen and a claim that never needs to be proven because mafia don’t shoot a night stump or whatever. It doesn’t make me suspect her more but why would it make anyone suspect her less?

I think certain people are less likely than others to make up claims period, and I also think this would make a silly fake.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Well, you are dead wrong. You may think I am off but I'm not. I will claim if I have to because it will be very little lost for the civs and very little gain for the mafia if they kill me.

She projected this, and I think it's authentic -- particularly her lack of enthusiasm with the role.

I don’t understand. That’s a great role to have.

[dunya]

Mac hasn't even been here to respond to JJJ's accusation. That is unfortunate.

it's 6 something am in australia. i don't think he'll be back before eod.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

To be clear: I don't think Mac is afraid of me. I think he is just leaving me to my business and expecting it to serve his interests (particularly as he nudges forward my suspicions of nutella verbatim.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Mac hasn't even been here to respond to JJJ's accusation. That is unfortunate.

Oh well.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

At this point my greatest motivation is not nutella. Among the active players Mac is the best suspect I've got, so sure.

I'm still open to a low poster. I will run out of time in moments.

[dunya]

Hey my color is back.

Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?

Because her personality exists.

What does that have to do with her claim?

If you (meaning anyone) just townread Juliets, okay. But all the “this is a good claim” is setting off my warning bells. It’s a claim I’ve never seen and a claim that never needs to be proven because mafia don’t shoot a night stump or whatever. It doesn’t make me suspect her more but why would it make anyone suspect her less?

I think certain people are less likely than others to make up claims period, and I also think this would make a silly fake.

i'm not saying i doubt juliets but that is silly. 1. epi could have given fake claims. 2. someone on her team could have suggested fake claims (i do this early every game when i'm mafia and the host didn't provide us with fake claims). 3. why is it silly? it basically helps ensure she wouldn't be nk'd cos pointless and not lynched cos she a stub.

[Matahari]

@Matahari hey no, uncool. You are behind the times as always.

I just wanted to see what you’d say.
I will switch to Mac instead of Luna, but that doesn’t mean I trust Luna.

[Jackofhearts2005]

At this point my greatest motivation is not nutella. Among the active players Mac is the best suspect I've got, so sure.

I'm still open to a low poster. I will run out of time in moments.

Cfd Juliets?

[dunya]

At this point my greatest motivation is not nutella.

why? i don't like how you flipped a switch without explaining.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Hey my color is back.

Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?

Because her personality exists.

What does that have to do with her claim?

If you (meaning anyone) just townread Juliets, okay. But all the “this is a good claim” is setting off my warning bells. It’s a claim I’ve never seen and a claim that never needs to be proven because mafia don’t shoot a night stump or whatever. It doesn’t make me suspect her more but why would it make anyone suspect her less?

I think certain people are less likely than others to make up claims period, and I also think this would make a silly fake.

i'm not saying i doubt juliets but that is silly. 1. epi could have given fake claims. 2. someone on her team could have suggested fake claims (i do this early every game when i'm mafia and the host didn't provide us with fake claims). 3. why is it silly? it basically helps ensure she wouldn't be nk'd cos pointless and not lynched cos she a stub.

I have never seen a mafia team given fake role claims in my life.

That doesn't mean you're wrong. I haven't seen it though. You could be right, but I am not in the business of finding every possible universe where I might be wrong about X. I make judgments.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

At this point my greatest motivation is not nutella.

why? i don't like how you flipped a switch without explaining.

I don't care whether you like it. I'm not answering this question. I hate that it has to be this way, but here we are.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Hey my color is back.

Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?

Because her personality exists.

What does that have to do with her claim?

If you (meaning anyone) just townread Juliets, okay. But all the “this is a good claim” is setting off my warning bells. It’s a claim I’ve never seen and a claim that never needs to be proven because mafia don’t shoot a night stump or whatever. It doesn’t make me suspect her more but why would it make anyone suspect her less?

I think certain people are less likely than others to make up claims period, and I also think this would make a silly fake.

i'm not saying i doubt juliets but that is silly. 1. epi could have given fake claims. 2. someone on her team could have suggested fake claims (i do this early every game when i'm mafia and the host didn't provide us with fake claims). 3. why is it silly? it basically helps ensure she wouldn't be nk'd cos pointless and not lynched cos she a stub.

I have never seen a mafia team given fake role claims in my life.

That doesn't mean you're wrong. I haven't seen it though. You could be right, but I am not in the business of finding every possible universe where I might be wrong about X. I make judgments.

You played in FE but whatever.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Last chance for me: who will vote Neverwhere?

[Spacedaisy]

Hey my color is back.

Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?

Because her personality exists.

What does that have to do with her claim?

If you (meaning anyone) just townread Juliets, okay. But all the “this is a good claim” is setting off my warning bells. It’s a claim I’ve never seen and a claim that never needs to be proven because mafia don’t shoot a night stump or whatever. It doesn’t make me suspect her more but why would it make anyone suspect her less?

I think certain people are less likely than others to make up claims period, and I also think this would make a silly fake.

i'm not saying i doubt juliets but that is silly. 1. epi could have given fake claims. 2. someone on her team could have suggested fake claims (i do this early every game when i'm mafia and the host didn't provide us with fake claims). 3. why is it silly? it basically helps ensure she wouldn't be nk'd cos pointless and not lynched cos she a stub.

I have never seen a mafia team given fake role claims in my life.

That doesn't mean you're wrong. I haven't seen it though. You could be right, but I am not in the business of finding every possible universe where I might be wrong about X. I make judgments.

It’s happened multiple times on this site even...

[Jackofhearts2005]

Last chance for me: who will vote Neverwhere?

Over Mac and Nutella? Yeah.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I've seen fake character claims. I don't remember any fake role claims. If it happened in Fire Emblem I have no memory.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Last chance for me: who will vote Neverwhere?

Over Mac and Nutella? Yeah.

[VOTE: Neverwhere] aubergine

[dunya]

everyone should vote for whoever THEY feel is the best lynch, not because someone told them to vote for someone. please make sure you're happy with where your vote is. if everyone played that way, there'd be more satisfactory lynches.

linki: what? did you even play on rym? we always had fakeclaims. i gave fake claims in Gossip Girl, even.

[nutella]

Hey my color is back.

Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?

Because her personality exists.

What does that have to do with her claim?

If you (meaning anyone) just townread Juliets, okay. But all the “this is a good claim” is setting off my warning bells. It’s a claim I’ve never seen and a claim that never needs to be proven because mafia don’t shoot a night stump or whatever. It doesn’t make me suspect her more but why would it make anyone suspect her less?

I think certain people are less likely than others to make up claims period, and I also think this would make a silly fake.

i'm not saying i doubt juliets but that is silly. 1. epi could have given fake claims. 2. someone on her team could have suggested fake claims (i do this early every game when i'm mafia and the host didn't provide us with fake claims). 3. why is it silly? it basically helps ensure she wouldn't be nk'd cos pointless and not lynched cos she a stub.

I have never seen a mafia team given fake role claims in my life.

That doesn't mean you're wrong. I haven't seen it though. You could be right, but I am not in the business of finding every possible universe where I might be wrong about X. I make judgments.

Have you really never seen it? I've played at least two or three games as mafia with safeclaims provided. I'd believe you weren't in any of those games but I'm still surprised. Don't think it's the case in this closed setup though.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Neverwhere] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

JFC

roles are not characters

[speedchuck]

I have never seen a mafia team given fake role claims in my life.

I've seen it before

[Kites]

so hmm juliets lynch dried up very quickly cos she claimed stump. it does seem like a role that fits the setup, it’s reasonable

it’s between nutella and mac now and i’m torn. mainly cos mac isn’t here and i will feel bad for lynching him. but like i said i don’t feel a nutella lynch and i doubt a lurker lynch will take off and i would take part in that anyways

[Kites]

*wouldn’t

[dunya]

a closed setup is more likely to have fake claims provided. the mafia have no idea what roles exist, fake claiming a role that someone actually has is a death wish and basically kills the game if it reaches a point where everyone has "claimed"

[dunya]

JFC

roles are not characters

and who said they were??

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I don't care about any of this. I believe juliets.

[nutella]

I've seen fake character claims. I don't remember any fake role claims. If it happened in Fire Emblem I have no memory.

Dude that was like FE's whole deal. We drafted roles and those were our claims but we had more secret stuff on the mafia. Wtf dude I thought you had the most detailed game memory

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I've seen fake character claims. I don't remember any fake role claims. If it happened in Fire Emblem I have no memory.

Dude that was like FE's whole deal. We drafted roles and those were our claims but we had more secret stuff on the mafia. Wtf dude I thought you had the most detailed game memory

That's not a closed setup. I am referring to closed setups. I had a semi-open setup (Mass Effect) with fake role claims.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

This is the dumbest conversation in EOD history. Is juliets bad or not?

[Kites]

fuck it

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

[dunya]

fuck it

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

balls to the wall

[Jackofhearts2005]

I've seen fake character claims. I don't remember any fake role claims. If it happened in Fire Emblem I have no memory.

Dude that was like FE's whole deal. We drafted roles and those were our claims but we had more secret stuff on the mafia. Wtf dude I thought you had the most detailed game memory

Mafia got secret fake character related claims too.

[Elohcin]

came back in to witness EoD and bam, things have changed. I will not catch up before the end. What did Mac do?

[dunya]

This is the dumbest conversation in EOD history. Is juliets bad or not?

no. and even if she was, we'd need more than 8 minutes to process this claim. she isn't being lynched today.