Also, Jack what do you see about nova? I have been antsy about him not looking the same as the nova I saw in the last 3 games I played with him where he was civ, but he has a plausible excuse (school).
I'm often antsy in mafia about people so don't feel bad. Right now with so much going on I just don't have many town reads. And I will keep those to myself since it's night.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pmAlways good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:47 pm
Epi doesn't even do insane cops (right?) LC probably just a baddie.
Wasn't Mac like "Of all the quiet people, I'm thinking about LC the most?" or some shit?
I'm pretty sure I've never been in an Epic game where there was an insane cop OR a strongman.
Insane cops are considered bastard. Strongmen are not.
I've never seen my role or Nutella's role in any game before and they're in this one.
Ok, that's fair. I've only seen my role in one other game and that was 2 years ago.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pmAlways good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.
[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] when you got the cop check why did you pick Elo and not me or Daisy? (Sorry if someone already asked this.)
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pmAlways good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:14 pm
Jackofhearts2005 when you got the cop check why did you pick Elo and not me or Daisy? (Sorry if someone already asked this.)
Well, Mac flipping scum kinda shot the "Daisy is focused on Juliets out of Mac and Juliets because she's scum with Juliets" theory out of the water. Her reaction would have been backwards if she was scum. So Daisy's at a townread and you're somewhere around null.
Here's the thing, though. I always use info gathering powers on people I don't know how to read and I don't know how to read Eloh. But if she's an alignment cop, she's town and if she's a ninja, she's scum.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:20 pm
Here's the thing, though. I always use info gathering powers on people I don't know how to read and I don't know how to read Eloh. But if she's an alignment cop, she's town and if she's a ninja, she's scum.
you said her role fits both alignments. so what's your read on her now?
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:20 pm
Here's the thing, though. I always use info gathering powers on people I don't know how to read and I don't know how to read Eloh. But if she's an alignment cop, she's town and if she's a ninja, she's scum.
you said her role fits both alignments. so what's your read on her now?
I don't have a read on her because her role fits both alignments.
Seriously, I don't even try to read Eloh. I've been sure she was town one time and she was scum. I've correctly scumread her once. I've helped mislynch her like 5 times.
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:14 pm
Jackofhearts2005 when you got the cop check why did you pick Elo and not me or Daisy? (Sorry if someone already asked this.)
Well, Mac flipping scum kinda shot the "Daisy is focused on Juliets out of Mac and Juliets because she's scum with Juliets" theory out of the water. Her reaction would have been backwards if she was scum. So Daisy's at a townread and you're somewhere around null.
Here's the thing, though. I always use info gathering powers on people I don't know how to read and I don't know how to read Eloh. But if she's an alignment cop, she's town and if she's a ninja, she's scum.
Lol, if you still think I'm bad you don't know how to read me either.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pmAlways good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.
Nah, I was checking in from a patio with wings and a beer, and the sunshine made it too hard to keep reading my phone, so I put it away.
You're not supposed to be able to see me anyway, because I'm invisible... but half the site regulars are mods of some sort with super powers, so that's fine.
Jack is scrambling to throw a bunch of fake news at you, but don't be fooled. If he were Civ, then we'd be having two days in a row instead. The end.
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:49 pm
Jack is scrambling to throw a bunch of fake news at you, but don't be fooled. If he were Civ, then we'd be having two days in a row instead. The end.
So is this the claim:
You target a civilian, we skip the next night phase.
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Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:49 pm
Nah, I was checking in from a patio with wings and a beer, and the sunshine made it too hard to keep reading my phone, so I put it away.
You're not supposed to be able to see me anyway, because I'm invisible... but half the site regulars are mods of some sort with super powers, so that's fine.
Jack is scrambling to throw a bunch of fake news at you, but don't be fooled. If he were Civ, then we'd be having two days in a row instead. The end.
So, the players backing him up in the fake news are likely to be the rest of his team?
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Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:49 pm
Nah, I was checking in from a patio with wings and a beer, and the sunshine made it too hard to keep reading my phone, so I put it away.
You're not supposed to be able to see me anyway, because I'm invisible... but half the site regulars are mods of some sort with super powers, so that's fine.
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Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:25 pm
I have not felt Mac was bad. Like at all. I’d be more inclined to vote nutella, but I don’t see good reason for that either except for jumping on nova’s joke which I didn’t think she was serious about originally.
*scribbles aggressively*
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:30 pm
Hey my color is back.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:30 pm
Hey my color is back.
Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?
Because her personality exists.
What does that have to do with her claim?
If you (meaning anyone) just townread Juliets, okay. But all the “this is a good claim” is setting off my warning bells. It’s a claim I’ve never seen and a claim that never needs to be proven because mafia don’t shoot a night stump or whatever. It doesn’t make me suspect her more but why would it make anyone suspect her less?
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:27 pm
Well, you are dead wrong. You may think I am off but I'm not. I will claim if I have to because it will be very little lost for the civs and very little gain for the mafia if they kill me.
She projected this, and I think it's authentic -- particularly her lack of enthusiasm with the role.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:40 pm
At this point my greatest motivation is not nutella. Among the active players Mac is the best suspect I've got, so sure.
I'm still open to a low poster. I will run out of time in moments.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:30 pm
Hey my color is back.
Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?
Because her personality exists.
What does that have to do with her claim?
If you (meaning anyone) just townread Juliets, okay. But all the “this is a good claim” is setting off my warning bells. It’s a claim I’ve never seen and a claim that never needs to be proven because mafia don’t shoot a night stump or whatever. It doesn’t make me suspect her more but why would it make anyone suspect her less?
I think certain people are less likely than others to make up claims period, and I also think this would make a silly fake.
i'm not saying i doubt juliets but that is silly. 1. epi could have given fake claims. 2. someone on her team could have suggested fake claims (i do this early every game when i'm mafia and the host didn't provide us with fake claims). 3. why is it silly? it basically helps ensure she wouldn't be nk'd cos pointless and not lynched cos she a stub.
I have never seen a mafia team given fake role claims in my life.
That doesn't mean you're wrong. I haven't seen it though. You could be right, but I am not in the business of finding every possible universe where I might be wrong about X. I make judgments.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:05 pm
Jack is saying LC is just straight up lying and isn't paying any heed to alternative possibilities. Bad.
I mean, misdirection is always possible but LC said he was 100% sure. That's why I think he's straight up lying.
If Jack is scum and he delays his death through the end of night 3 for verification purposes, that's a win for him. Him having a role that pings people during the day would help with that even further.
I'm still going to announce what I hear tomorrow (in a few hours I guess), but I'm skeptical.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:22 pm
I don't think confirming Jack's role even matters. Why can't that be a mafia role?
a mafia that hands out life vests? what kinda messed up shit is that? don't think epi would do a role that makes civilians thing they're protected and then then mafia just don't kill them or strongman kill them.
jack is lying. it was a good hail mary, especially how it started on speed then claimed role cop which nutella had flipped last night lol.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:22 pm
I don't think confirming Jack's role even matters. Why can't that be a mafia role?
a mafia that hands out life vests? what kinda messed up shit is that? don't think epi would do a role that makes civilians thing they're protected and then then mafia just don't kill them or strongman kill them.
I do. He doesn't want role claims that confirm people. I think that's the point of this setup. Everyone is still on the table regardless of what they claim.
Anyway it's all convoluted and likely fake so we agree where it matters.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:05 pm
Jack is saying LC is just straight up lying and isn't paying any heed to alternative possibilities. Bad.
I mean, misdirection is always possible but LC said he was 100% sure. That's why I think he's straight up lying.
Of course you're right, misdirections exist. So nothing can be 100%. How about, barring someone messing with my role in some way, I'm 100% sure that you're bad. Is that better?
So what you're saying is that Juliets is a mafia stump.
It's a cool idea for a setup, and LC's reveal puts it into perspective. I think every role is built to be used by mafia OR town. Then alignments are assigned separately. It's a perfect closed setup.
I am doing the Jack/nova interaction analysis by the way it's just taking forever because they are so prolific. I don't see them being teammate compatible which makes me want to stop but I will finish it and publish the quotes for all of you to see in case you look at it and see something different.
linki - wait what? I'm not a mafia stump.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pmAlways good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:34 pm
I am doing the Jack/nova interaction analysis by the way it's just taking forever because they are so prolific. I don't see them being teammate compatible which makes me want to stop but I will finish it and publish the quotes for all of you to see in case you look at it and see something different.
linki - wait what? I'm not a mafia stump.
Yes, that's one of the more laborious analyses there is. Thank you.
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juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:34 pm
I am doing the Jack/nova interaction analysis by the way it's just taking forever because they are so prolific. I don't see them being teammate compatible which makes me want to stop but I will finish it and publish the quotes for all of you to see in case you look at it and see something different.