actually wait i just reread that question. hmmm. i might do my best to skip nights actually and prevent nks. talking to the devil though, everyone plays differently.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:16 pm If you had a cop check that let you skip the day if you got a guilty peek or skip the night if you got a green peak, would you use it on a player you suspected?
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Day 3]
Speed is saying he trusts LC cause it would be a huge gambit for a mafia member to fake a red peak.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:22 pmi don't understand what the "huge gambit" is in either contextJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:14 pmIt’s only a huge gambit if people are willing to lynch LC when I flip town.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:02 pmIt would if literally any of his teammates could skip a day phase.
At that point we're looking at a huuuge gambit to lynch Jack though
I disagree.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Day 3]
Right?dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:24 pmactually wait i just reread that question. hmmm. i might do my best to skip nights actually and prevent nks. talking to the devil though, everyone plays differently.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:16 pm If you had a cop check that let you skip the day if you got a guilty peek or skip the night if you got a green peak, would you use it on a player you suspected?
Normally, red checks are better but a night skip is awesome and a day skip is ass.
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It’s just scum with a day skip, ya’ll.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Night 2]
I gotta give it to Epi, this is a cool role.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:49 pm Or wait, is Long Con saying that HE skipped the day by targeting Jack? Because that's all kinds of funky.
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LC: I skipped the day phase.
DDL: Neat!
Jack: I can doctor people.
Speed: Seems suspicious.
DDL: Neat!
Jack: I can doctor people.
Speed: Seems suspicious.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Day 3]
it is.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:25 pmSpeed is saying he trusts LC cause it would be a huge gambit for a mafia member to fake a red peak.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:22 pmi don't understand what the "huge gambit" is in either contextJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:14 pmIt’s only a huge gambit if people are willing to lynch LC when I flip town.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:02 pmIt would if literally any of his teammates could skip a day phase.
At that point we're looking at a huuuge gambit to lynch Jack though
I disagree.
unless he is sure you're flipping bad. which i think is almost impossible to make it so convenient that he skips night, his song, etc. it all doesn't add up.
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Why would a mafia member be sure I’m flipping bad?dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:30 pmit is.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:25 pmSpeed is saying he trusts LC cause it would be a huge gambit for a mafia member to fake a red peak.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:22 pmi don't understand what the "huge gambit" is in either contextJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:14 pmIt’s only a huge gambit if people are willing to lynch LC when I flip town.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:02 pmIt would if literally any of his teammates could skip a day phase.
At that point we're looking at a huuuge gambit to lynch Jack though
I disagree.
unless he is sure you're flipping bad. which i think is almost impossible to make it so convenient that he skips night, his song, etc. it all doesn't add up.
What about his song adds up?
His song is like “cherry rain golden whatever” and his claim is like “cherries are day skips and guilty and golden is a night skip and a green check.” Okay but you could make the same claim for lyrics with any two nouns.
My song is Doctor Wu and my power is doctor.
Which one of us has the claim that fits our song?
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Night 2]
Maybe if you were a newbie player... but you have hosted role madness. I don't believe you can look at LC's claim and not understand the concept of a cop role with drawbacks.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:29 pm LC: I skipped the day phase.
DDL: Neat!
Jack: I can doctor people.
Speed: Seems suspicious.
This is a very elegant role.
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After Jack is done I think we need to start tackling them inactives.
What happened to the Luna case? Did it die with nutella?
What happened to the Luna case? Did it die with nutella?
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Day 3]
Is there really no one else active who is suspicious?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:52 pm After Jack is done I think we need to start tackling them inactives.
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I didn't say that. But I do think at some point we'll have such a high concentration of civs among the actives that letting the inactives stay untouched will not be optimal.leetic wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:53 pmIs there really no one else active who is suspicious?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:52 pm After Jack is done I think we need to start tackling them inactives.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Day 3]
If LC is a framer and one of his teammates is a dayskipper, it's a stupid gambit. If we happen to lynch the teammate at some point, it would immediately doom LC.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:14 pmIt’s only a huge gambit if people are willing to lynch LC when I flip town.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:02 pmIt would if literally any of his teammates could skip a day phase.
At that point we're looking at a huuuge gambit to lynch Jack though
Never base a gambit on two scum powers going undiscovered.
This, of course, is assuming you flip scum.
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There's always a chance that LC is lying or his ability was tampared with, but experience says most of the time, you should trust the cop who claimed first.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Day 3]
Why does there need to be a framer?speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:05 pmIf LC is a framer and one of his teammates is a dayskipper, it's a stupid gambit. If we happen to lynch the teammate at some point, it would immediately doom LC.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:14 pmIt’s only a huge gambit if people are willing to lynch LC when I flip town.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:02 pmIt would if literally any of his teammates could skip a day phase.
At that point we're looking at a huuuge gambit to lynch Jack though
Never base a gambit on two scum powers going undiscovered.
This, of course, is assuming you flip scum.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Night 2]
LC: I have an alignment checker / phase skipper, and succeeding on one gives me a drawback on the other.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:29 pm LC: I skipped the day phase.
DDL: Neat!
Jack: I can doctor people.
Speed: Seems suspicious.
DDL: Neat!
Jack: I can offer not to kill to protect someone at night and then take and use their power, essentially being a rolecop AND a power stealer with the added doctor bit, which is conveniently broken by a mafia strongman on night 1 I guess because nutella HAD to have a vest protect.
Speed: IDK. Roles in this game are confusing. Cop check is more reliable.
Occam's razor says to trust the cop check and see what happens.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Day 3]
I'm replying to a Dunya post about framers, back at the start of this chain. Go there.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:08 pmWhy does there need to be a framer?speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:05 pmIf LC is a framer and one of his teammates is a dayskipper, it's a stupid gambit. If we happen to lynch the teammate at some point, it would immediately doom LC.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:14 pmIt’s only a huge gambit if people are willing to lynch LC when I flip town.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:02 pmIt would if literally any of his teammates could skip a day phase.
At that point we're looking at a huuuge gambit to lynch Jack though
Never base a gambit on two scum powers going undiscovered.
This, of course, is assuming you flip scum.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Night 2]
But nobody ever said this but you.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:09 pmLC: I have an alignment checker / phase skipper, and succeeding on one gives me a drawback on the other.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:29 pm LC: I skipped the day phase.
DDL: Neat!
Jack: I can doctor people.
Speed: Seems suspicious.
DDL: Neat!
Jack: I can offer not to kill to protect someone at night and then take and use their power, essentially being a rolecop AND a power stealer with the added doctor bit, which is conveniently broken by a mafia strongman on night 1 I guess because nutella HAD to have a vest protect.
Speed: IDK. Roles in this game are confusing. Cop check is more reliable.
Occam's razor says to trust the cop check and see what happens.
The role does not say this.
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This doesn’t make sense.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:09 pmI'm replying to a Dunya post about framers, back at the start of this chain. Go there.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:08 pmWhy does there need to be a framer?speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:05 pmIf LC is a framer and one of his teammates is a dayskipper, it's a stupid gambit. If we happen to lynch the teammate at some point, it would immediately doom LC.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:14 pmIt’s only a huge gambit if people are willing to lynch LC when I flip town.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:02 pmIt would if literally any of his teammates could skip a day phase.
At that point we're looking at a huuuge gambit to lynch Jack though
Never base a gambit on two scum powers going undiscovered.
This, of course, is assuming you flip scum.
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The mafia doesn’t need to frame someone to fake a red peek. They can just lie.
Why would scum LC be worried about his day skipper friendo getting lynched when he’s the day skipper?
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I feel like I’m taking crazy pills and nobody but Jay even understands what me and LC are saying.
Which is exactly D1 all over again where nobody but Jay could understand my Daisy case.
And at the end of the day, I’ll get lynched over the red peek, Jay gets nightkilled and everyone will shrug at LC because look at all the stuff about framers and mentions of discord and threats of nightkill so of course we don’t trust Jack. Never mind that none of that shit even exists.
Which is exactly D1 all over again where nobody but Jay could understand my Daisy case.
And at the end of the day, I’ll get lynched over the red peek, Jay gets nightkilled and everyone will shrug at LC because look at all the stuff about framers and mentions of discord and threats of nightkill so of course we don’t trust Jack. Never mind that none of that shit even exists.
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I will self vote if I can get some promises to hang LC when I flip town.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Day 3]
lolJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:19 pmThis doesn’t make sense.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:09 pmI'm replying to a Dunya post about framers, back at the start of this chain. Go there.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:08 pmWhy does there need to be a framer?speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:05 pmIf LC is a framer and one of his teammates is a dayskipper, it's a stupid gambit. If we happen to lynch the teammate at some point, it would immediately doom LC.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:14 pmIt’s only a huge gambit if people are willing to lynch LC when I flip town.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:02 pmIt would if literally any of his teammates could skip a day phase.
At that point we're looking at a huuuge gambit to lynch Jack though
Never base a gambit on two scum powers going undiscovered.
This, of course, is assuming you flip scum.
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The mafia doesn’t need to frame someone to fake a red peek. They can just lie.
Why would scum LC be worried about his day skipper friendo getting lynched when he’s the day skipper?
you were more fun when you were lolcatting.
mafia LC lies about you, you flip town, then what? mafia LC wasn't getting lynched. why did he do all this? to mislynch 1 townie? no other way to go around doing that? and why would he lie about YOU and not, say, me or Jay. not being arrogant or anything (i sound gross, i'm sorry), but you spent all of day 0 and the better part of day 1 going after.....juliets and daisy. where's the mafia threat in you?
also your song is literally about a shady as fuck doctor.
so yeah. not buying it.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Day 3]
ugh pls don't be that guyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:25 pm I will self vote if I can get some promises to hang LC when I flip town.
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jack doesn't know anything about steely dan. if he searched "doctor steely dan" doctor wu is literally the first song in google the pops up. i wonder if he even looked at the lyrics lol.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Day 3]
Excuse me for pursuing my wincon.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:26 pmugh pls don't be that guyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:25 pm I will self vote if I can get some promises to hang LC when I flip town.
A lone vote on a wolf is not worth squat. A consensus to lynch a wolf is.
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And I’m not lolcatting. My natural joke to content ratio is high. You add an accusation of that and it doesn’t make my jokes lolcatting. If I was lolcatting, you’d know.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Day 3]
well having a framer in LC is the only good thing that could explain why scum LC wants you dead. if you're saying none of that shit exists then cool, we made the best choice we could have hoped for.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:23 pm I feel like I’m taking crazy pills and nobody but Jay even understands what me and LC are saying.
Which is exactly D1 all over again where nobody but Jay could understand my Daisy case.
And at the end of the day, I’ll get lynched over the red peek, Jay gets nightkilled and everyone will shrug at LC because look at all the stuff about framers and mentions of discord and threats of nightkill so of course we don’t trust Jack. Never mind that none of that shit even exists.
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What are you talking about?dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:30 pmwell having a framer in LC is the only good thing that could explain why scum LC wants you dead. if you're saying none of that shit exists then cool, we made the best choice we could have hoped for.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:23 pm I feel like I’m taking crazy pills and nobody but Jay even understands what me and LC are saying.
Which is exactly D1 all over again where nobody but Jay could understand my Daisy case.
And at the end of the day, I’ll get lynched over the red peek, Jay gets nightkilled and everyone will shrug at LC because look at all the stuff about framers and mentions of discord and threats of nightkill so of course we don’t trust Jack. Never mind that none of that shit even exists.
A farmer would explain why town LC has a red peak on town Jack.
If LC is bad, why would he frame me and then actually cop check me? Wolves are allowed to just lie.
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You’re talking about a forger.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Day 3]
why would a framer choose to frame you tho?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:31 pmWhat are you talking about?dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:30 pmwell having a framer in LC is the only good thing that could explain why scum LC wants you dead. if you're saying none of that shit exists then cool, we made the best choice we could have hoped for.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:23 pm I feel like I’m taking crazy pills and nobody but Jay even understands what me and LC are saying.
Which is exactly D1 all over again where nobody but Jay could understand my Daisy case.
And at the end of the day, I’ll get lynched over the red peek, Jay gets nightkilled and everyone will shrug at LC because look at all the stuff about framers and mentions of discord and threats of nightkill so of course we don’t trust Jack. Never mind that none of that shit even exists.
A farmer would explain why town LC has a red peak on town Jack.
If LC is bad, why would he frame me and then actually cop check me? Wolves are allowed to just lie.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Day 3]
No, I’m saying I’m going to flip green and nobody is going to think LC is bad anyway cause it’s “so risky.”
Linki: There’s no framer.
Linki: There’s no framer.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Night 2]
The weird thing to me is that it is doctor protection, not a vest. Took me by surprise after the intital claim.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:17 pmBut nobody ever said this but you.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:09 pmLC: I have an alignment checker / phase skipper, and succeeding on one gives me a drawback on the other.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:29 pm LC: I skipped the day phase.
DDL: Neat!
Jack: I can doctor people.
Speed: Seems suspicious.
DDL: Neat!
Jack: I can offer not to kill to protect someone at night and then take and use their power, essentially being a rolecop AND a power stealer with the added doctor bit, which is conveniently broken by a mafia strongman on night 1 I guess because nutella HAD to have a vest protect.
Speed: IDK. Roles in this game are confusing. Cop check is more reliable.
Occam's razor says to trust the cop check and see what happens.
The role does not say this.
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Heck no. You flip green, LC dies.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:34 pm No, I’m saying I’m going to flip green and nobody is going to think LC is bad anyway cause it’s “so risky.”
Linki: There’s no framer.
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That’s at Dunya.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Day 3]
Why does everyone on this site have such a hate-boner for self-voting?dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:26 pmugh pls don't be that guyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:25 pm I will self vote if I can get some promises to hang LC when I flip town.
Sometimes it is a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
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why is it weird?speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:34 pm
The weird thing to me is that it is doctor protection, not a vest. Took me by surprise after the intital claim.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Night 2]
Jack claimed it as a vest initially.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:36 pmwhy is it weird?speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:34 pm
The weird thing to me is that it is doctor protection, not a vest. Took me by surprise after the intital claim.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Day 3]
because it sucks when people throw a fit at the thread cos they're being voted and self vote cos they're angry....for being voted...in a game of mafia....where every day phase people vote each other out.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:36 pmWhy does everyone on this site have such a hate-boner for self-voting?dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:26 pmugh pls don't be that guyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:25 pm I will self vote if I can get some promises to hang LC when I flip town.
Sometimes it is a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
so i don't differentiate between which situation sucks or not. self voting SUCKS. period.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Night 2]
and the host told you it's a doctor protection?speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:37 pmJack claimed it as a vest initially.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:36 pmwhy is it weird?speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:34 pm
The weird thing to me is that it is doctor protection, not a vest. Took me by surprise after the intital claim.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Day 3]
But what if they do it out of a desire to be lynched and set things in motion because it would be better for the game?dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:38 pmbecause it sucks when people throw a fit at the thread cos they're being voted and self vote cos they're angry....for being voted...in a game of mafia....where every day phase people vote each other out.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:36 pmWhy does everyone on this site have such a hate-boner for self-voting?dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:26 pmugh pls don't be that guyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:25 pm I will self vote if I can get some promises to hang LC when I flip town.
Sometimes it is a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
so i don't differentiate between which situation sucks or not. self voting SUCKS. period.
Like in that game where you guys might have lynched scum if I wasn't there to drive the endgame?
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Day 3]
[mention]speedchuck[/mention]Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:06 pm There's always a chance that LC is lying or his ability was tampared with, but experience says most of the time, you should trust the cop who claimed first.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Night 2]
The offer for for the protection of a doctor. And Jack's revised claim falls in line with this.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:38 pmand the host told you it's a doctor protection?speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:37 pmJack claimed it as a vest initially.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:36 pmwhy is it weird?speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:34 pm
The weird thing to me is that it is doctor protection, not a vest. Took me by surprise after the intital claim.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Night 2]
Give you a vest. Give you a doctoring. Whatever. Now turn your head and cough.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:37 pmJack claimed it as a vest initially.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:36 pmwhy is it weird?speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:34 pm
The weird thing to me is that it is doctor protection, not a vest. Took me by surprise after the intital claim.
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Re: Steely Dan Mafia [Day 3]
what even is jack doing?
"i gave speedchuck a vest in return for his power"
"no, wait, i gave nutella a vest in return for her power"
"oh wait, it's a doc protection"
"i gave speedchuck a vest in return for his power"
"no, wait, i gave nutella a vest in return for her power"
"oh wait, it's a doc protection"