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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:59 pm I'll bring back the Jack/nova analysis that juliets did now that we know it was a necessary effort. I'm removing the quote so it isn't enclosed in a box.
JULIETS - Jack/Nova Interaction Analysis
I am not Jay so this isn't his level of interaction analysis but it's more than we had before. My read is below each spoiler.
First interaction that I see and it's one of Jack's jokes. Meh, no read here for me.Spoiler: show
Another Jack comment on nova but it's basically still a joke. Meh again.Spoiler: show
A back and forth here that could be distancing or could be nova just irritated at Jack though I didn't see a reason for that to be true.Spoiler: shownovaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:51 pmnoJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:34 pm@novaselinenever
Elaborate.
Did Nova set Jack up to post a rainbow where nova is good? I guess it's possible but it seems to me to be stretching it to think thats what happened.Spoiler: showJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:22 pmJack
Speed
Nova
Nutella
Dunya
Jay
DDL
Juliets
Daisy
Everyone else is meh.
This sequence does not look like nova and Jack are teammates. What would be the mafia point in nova misreading Jack's list?Spoiler: showJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:33 pmTurn you computer upsidedown. I scumread Juliets and Daisy.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:37 pmI see some development there. What made you navigate through the whole Daisy/Juliets thingy to reach a double civ?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:22 pmJack
Speed
Nova
Nutella
Dunya
Jay
DDL
Juliets
Daisy
Everyone else is meh.
Anyone worse than meh?
And nova's reply does not make me think teammates either.Spoiler: shownovaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:37 pmCan a brother get some colors with a rainbowJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:33 pmTurn you computer upsidedown. I scumread Juliets and Daisy.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:37 pmI see some development there. What made you navigate through the whole Daisy/Juliets thingy to reach a double civ?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:22 pmJack
Speed
Nova
Nutella
Dunya
Jay
DDL
Juliets
Daisy
Everyone else is meh.
Anyone worse than meh?
I don't think a teammate asks Jack this question about Daisy defending me.Spoiler: showJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:32 amBy uh...scumreading me.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:30 amHow did she defend Juliets? I might have missed that.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:27 am I don’t care about her read on me, which she riscended anyway. It doesn’t enter into my read.
Why is she defending Juliets and not Mac if between them, she suspects Juliets?
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:22 am Jackofhearts2005 read below. she's already said you're not all mafia together. you're a bigger scum read to her than juliets. if you're bad, juliets probably isn't. where's the issue in defending juliets against you?
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:01 pmI don’t think you all are together. I think one or two of you are but I’m not sure which ones.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:24 pm
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Why are Jay, Jack and maybe Juliets bad?
Is it because our names start with the letter J?
Juliets I don’t feel the normal confused/trying to understand vibe I get from her posts. She seems more confident in her reads than I expect from civ Juliets.
Jay, it’s in the way he has responded to dunya. She pressed to understand why two things read differently because she didn’t see a difference. A valid question imo. His response was , she should know me better than that. An implicationhe thinks she is bad. Then a short time later he calls her good, I don’t see a natural evolution of opinion in there. It looks bad to me.
Jack, you pushed Juliets for her joke questions about Mac/nova. I’ve only played two game series this year and even I knew what she was talking about. You presented it in a manner as if she only asked the questions as if she already knew they were on different teams, but that was t an accurate representation. Looks bad to me.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:05 pmI trend towards if Jack is bad the other two probably are not. Jay could be a teammate withhjuliets, but I wouldn’t say that is a sure thing if one of them is bad they both are. It’s possible, but I’m just spitting out my gut readability independent of each other right now. I don’t believe all three are bad together, no.
Linki - Dunya is bad.
For pushing Juliets. That’s the important part.
This post by Nova about Jack's Daisy/juliets suspicion does not look like a teammate. Maybe it would if Jack were on the road to getting lynched but Jack is nowhere near that.Spoiler: showJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:11 pmNO! NOT THIS!Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:05 pmTHIS! Nova gets it.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:38 amBut how is that a defense of Juliets? I mean you can scum-read someone for a case they make on anyone, it shouldn't matter if the case is on someone you also scum-read. It's about the case itself, being flimsy and fake.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:32 amBy uh...scumreading me.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:30 amHow did she defend Juliets? I might have missed that.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:27 am I don’t care about her read on me, which she riscended anyway. It doesn’t enter into my read.
Why is she defending Juliets and not Mac if between them, she suspects Juliets?
Linki - Dunya is bad.
For pushing Juliets. That’s the important part.
Didn't I scum-read DDL for his case on you, yet I also suspected you? I don't recall you having a problem with that, nor do you seem to have a problem with me beefing with Eloh one of my points being her read on Nutella, yet the latter is also a suspect of mine
There was no Juliets push to begin with. You claim to suspect me over a case that doesn’t exist.
And if it did exist, it would be about Juliets AND Mac. You called it a push on Juliets only.
This is suspicious. This is you being sensitive to attacks on Juliets.
You also scumread Juliets. This is you being also willing to bus.
It’s not about suspecting Juliets and a player that suspects Juliets because that’s not a problem and it didn’t happen anyway.
I'm not sure what Jack means here, does he mean dunya and nova might be mafia because they are asking him for clarification on the Daisy/juliets saga? If so I think that's another good look for nova.Spoiler: showJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:15 pm Is it paranoid to feel like the constant misrepresentation of my suspicions on Daisy/Juliets is scum indicative?
Dunya and Nova are also having this problem and I don’t think that’s just the mafia.
Linki: Why?
I was surprised to see that nova still had Jack as any color green - or did he mean out of Jay's green skittles Jack and Daisy were the weakest greens. Anyway, even if he still had Jack as weak green it's not an endorsement of Jack the way I read it.Spoiler: shownovaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:54 pmJack and Space would be my weakest green skittles.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:53 pmYup I am open to hearing suspicions of more active contributors. If there's a green skittle I'm wrong about, I need someone else to yell it at me.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:51 pm Solid PoE but the number of default additions is concerning for the game's health. It'd be something if Mafia are mostly inactives, laying low and we got their wannabe deep wolf D1.
Ok I quit. It doesn't appear nova believed Jack for one minute when Jack was explaining his case.Spoiler: shownovaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:43 pm Jack and Speed are bad together and putting on a show?
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:45 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:44 pmIt's a trade. They have to say yes or no during the day and then I get their power during the night and they get the vest.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:42 pm How do you give someone a vest, and copy their power in one same action? I call bullshit.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:49 pmHe said it's a day ability, ain't no one going to redirect a day ability. Also we got 3 hours left, and he should get vigged in them not the next night phase.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:47 pmI used my power last night. I have someone who can confirm that.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:44 pmIt's a trade. They have to say yes or no during the day and then I get their power during the night and they get the vest.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:42 pm How do you give someone a vest, and copy their power in one same action? I call bullshit.
If you were blocked, you probably would not have gotten a yes/no bad. Therefore, even if wonkily redirected, SOMEONE in this game should be able to confirm you.
They have over 24 hours to speak up, unless you get vigged in the next three.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:01 pmNot possible. Jack allegedly visited Nutella during the day, he should have been seen visiting Eloh if he's truthful and got tracked.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:58 pm The only middle ground I can conceive of would be @Long Con tracking Jack into nutella, which fits both worlds. Even then though we have to contend with the fact that Jack literally told us he gave shit to speedchuck and then was like oops just kiddingnovaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:29 pm A vigilante should put us out of our misery, and let the game resume.
If Jack and Nova are teammates does Jack say this while circling the drain? I don't think so.Spoiler: show
There are 2 more pages of Jack that I skipped toward the end and I will do it and report out if there is anything there that strikes me as relevant to this analysis. I just decided to stop now and get this much out there.
I do not see nova and Jack as teammate compatible. If you see it differently though please argue