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[Matahari]

Neverwhere just genuinely looks too busy to be in this game. But looking back at her posts, she seems to be trying with each checkin instead of just making excuses. Also she's congratulated each scum lynch. I really want to town-read Neverwhere.

I reread the lowposters earlier today, and I came away thinking that neverwhere seemed ok too. I did not get the best feeling from Niju. I also tend to suspect Rey is bad every time he doesn’t show up. That’s an old school bias that I haven’t been able to shake, but I also would hate to lynch someone who is a no show. He’s not exactly doing any harm so I’m not sure whether he’s worth thinking about.

[dunya]

Ddl, if town, is the first xshot we've seen. I'm assuming x-shot cos controlling the poll every day seems whack as hell.

[dunya]

Makes me fishy. I cant help it.

[Lunalee]

Neverwhere just genuinely looks too busy to be in this game. But looking back at her posts, she seems to be trying with each checkin instead of just making excuses. Also she's congratulated each scum lynch. I really want to town-read Neverwhere.

I reread the lowposters earlier today, and I came away thinking that neverwhere seemed ok too. I did not get the best feeling from Niju. I also tend to suspect Rey is bad every time he doesn’t show up. That’s an old school bias that I haven’t been able to shake, but I also would hate to lynch someone who is a no show. He’s not exactly doing any harm so I’m not sure whether he’s worth thinking about.

Yeah, looking at niju I kinda agree with you.
She was here for the mac lynch, and voted nutella. The reason was based on what the rest of the thread was doing, instead of a personal choice.

She also wasn't keeping up with the Jack suspicion and asked "people are voting Jack?" I'm assuming that means she wasn't a fan of the Jack lynch either.

reywaS should be mod-killed for inactivity or replaced. I'm not okay with lynching someone with zero posts, and I don't like that DDL thought we would be open to lynching someone with zero posts.

[Lunalee]

Ddl, if town, is the first xshot we've seen. I'm assuming x-shot cos controlling the poll every day seems whack as hell.

I don't want to say controlling the poll is a town ability, but I really hope it is. If DDL's scum do you think he would have put up a poll of all townies?

[novaselinenever]

Ddl, if town, is the first xshot we've seen. I'm assuming x-shot cos controlling the poll every day seems whack as hell.

LC?

[Lunalee]

I feel most confident voting Leetic for now.

[VOTE: Leetic] aubergine

[novaselinenever]

Neverwhere just genuinely looks too busy to be in this game. But looking back at her posts, she seems to be trying with each checkin instead of just making excuses. Also she's congratulated each scum lynch. I really want to town-read Neverwhere.

I reread the lowposters earlier today, and I came away thinking that neverwhere seemed ok too. I did not get the best feeling from Niju. I also tend to suspect Rey is bad every time he doesn’t show up. That’s an old school bias that I haven’t been able to shake, but I also would hate to lynch someone who is a no show. He’s not exactly doing any harm so I’m not sure whether he’s worth thinking about.

reywaS should be mod-killed for inactivity or replaced. I'm not okay with lynching someone with zero posts, and I don't like that DDL thought we would be open to lynching someone with zero posts.

[novaselinenever]

Those were the 5 lowest posters the moment I sent the ability.

[dunya]

The more I think about it the more I get pinged. The timing of this narrowed down poll is weird as hell. We have lynched mafia 2 consecutive times. 2 failed kills. We dont need direction...which a narrowed down poll offers usually (I always hate it ftr). Our direction has been on point. Feels like mafia needed a break and with all the niju talk, this would have been a perfect opportunity for mafia DDL to set up niju for a mislynch as the clear consensus. The kites omission is kinda glaring at me too.

This doesn't feel town inspired.

[Elohcin]

no kill! That poll though. Instead of just modkilling, Epi is letting us decide?

i don't think so. i think this is a townie power. someone chose to have only these people on the poll.

i'm not really hot about narrowed down options, but i get it. these people need to be addressed at some point. now we're forced into addressing them.

yeah, modkill thoughts was my initial reaction, but after walking away to cook/eat/clean the kitchen, I realized it had to be a roll power b/c it wouldn't be fair to have the host step in that way. Honestly, I don't even think modkills are fair. Gotta keep the balance. Even if a civ is inactive, it still helps the numbers. Anyway...I am rambling.

[novaselinenever]

Jay

[speedchuck]

I dont even care if Epignosis made it that we can't gleam alignment from roles. Open claiming takes away from my thrill of not knowing.

I know I'm probably alone in this opinion so everyone feel free to play and do as you wish.

Nah, you're not alone. But hey, I was enjoying being cagey and I just got outted, so whatever.

[novaselinenever]

Ddl, if town, is the first xshot we've seen. I'm assuming x-shot cos controlling the poll every day seems whack as hell.

I don't want to say controlling the poll is a town ability, but I really hope it is. If DDL's scum do you think he would have put up a poll of all townies?

Those were the 5 lowest posters the moment I sent the ability.

[novaselinenever]

Luna - not relaxed

[dunya]

Ddl, if town, is the first xshot we've seen. I'm assuming x-shot cos controlling the poll every day seems whack as hell.

LC?

I don't know if he's xshot and he shouldn't answer. Possible. Whatever. I shouldn't have theorized about xshots. I dont want people who haven't claimed to talk. I just feel bad about DDL and can't shake it off.

[speedchuck]

Mmph.

I think I'm gonna just chill for now.

[speedchuck]

[mention]Lunalee[/mention] Why are you talking about my role?

[dunya]

Ddl, if town, is the first xshot we've seen. I'm assuming x-shot cos controlling the poll every day seems whack as hell.

I don't want to say controlling the poll is a town ability, but I really hope it is. If DDL's scum do you think he would have put up a poll of all townies?

Probably not. But when you saw the poll, who did you think of as bad first? Or who do you see as most likely getting lynched? ReyWas? Neverwhere? Luna?

[Elohcin]

Yayay! Second time!

why do you think your role is showing on the first page?

I don't have a clue. I asked Epi and got a non-responsive answer (i.e., he wouldn't tell me).

Juliets, I would think this is someone's power, to reveal the role of a living player.

[dunya]

no kill! That poll though. Instead of just modkilling, Epi is letting us decide?

i don't think so. i think this is a townie power. someone chose to have only these people on the poll.

i'm not really hot about narrowed down options, but i get it. these people need to be addressed at some point. now we're forced into addressing them.

yeah, modkill thoughts was my initial reaction, but after walking away to cook/eat/clean the kitchen, I realized it had to be a roll power b/c it wouldn't be fair to have the host step in that way. Honestly, I don't even think modkills are fair. Gotta keep the balance. Even if a civ is inactive, it still helps the numbers. Anyway...I am rambling.

How do you feel about Jay?

Speedchuck?

Luna?

Appreciate your time, thank you.

[Lunalee]

Neverwhere just genuinely looks too busy to be in this game. But looking back at her posts, she seems to be trying with each checkin instead of just making excuses. Also she's congratulated each scum lynch. I really want to town-read Neverwhere.

I reread the lowposters earlier today, and I came away thinking that neverwhere seemed ok too. I did not get the best feeling from Niju. I also tend to suspect Rey is bad every time he doesn’t show up. That’s an old school bias that I haven’t been able to shake, but I also would hate to lynch someone who is a no show. He’s not exactly doing any harm so I’m not sure whether he’s worth thinking about.

reywaS should be mod-killed for inactivity or replaced. I'm not okay with lynching someone with zero posts, and I don't like that DDL thought we would be open to lynching someone with zero posts.

what

[Lunalee]

@Lunalee Why are you talking about my role?

because I was asked about why I think you're town?

[speedchuck]

@Lunalee Why are you talking about my role?

because I was asked about why I think you're town?

[dunya]

It's ok speed. I dont think you're town because of your role. If we saw Jack as a doctor flip bad, I'm not trusting anti e this game.

[dunya]

Anyone* Not sure who anti e is. Anti Epi lol

[Lunalee]

Ddl, if town, is the first xshot we've seen. I'm assuming x-shot cos controlling the poll every day seems whack as hell.

I don't want to say controlling the poll is a town ability, but I really hope it is. If DDL's scum do you think he would have put up a poll of all townies?

Probably not. But when you saw the poll, who did you think of as bad first? Or who do you see as most likely getting lynched? ReyWas? Neverwhere? Luna?

Not raywaS or Neverwhere. I think the lynch is between Leetic, myself, and Niju. And to answer your question, I thought leetic was bad first, but only because he is at the top, and I look back at his posts first.

[dunya]

Ddl, if town, is the first xshot we've seen. I'm assuming x-shot cos controlling the poll every day seems whack as hell.

I don't want to say controlling the poll is a town ability, but I really hope it is. If DDL's scum do you think he would have put up a poll of all townies?

Probably not. But when you saw the poll, who did you think of as bad first? Or who do you see as most likely getting lynched? ReyWas? Neverwhere? Luna?

Not raywaS or Neverwhere. I think the lynch is between Leetic, myself, and Niju. And to answer your question, I thought leetic was bad first, but only because he is at the top, and I look back at his posts first.

Ok maybe I asked the wrong person.

I was expecting niju as the clear answer.

Why did you trust speed enough to give him your role?

[Lunalee]

Ddl, if town, is the first xshot we've seen. I'm assuming x-shot cos controlling the poll every day seems whack as hell.

I don't want to say controlling the poll is a town ability, but I really hope it is. If DDL's scum do you think he would have put up a poll of all townies?

Probably not. But when you saw the poll, who did you think of as bad first? Or who do you see as most likely getting lynched? ReyWas? Neverwhere? Luna?

Not raywaS or Neverwhere. I think the lynch is between Leetic, myself, and Niju. And to answer your question, I thought leetic was bad first, but only because he is at the top, and I look back at his posts first.

Ok maybe I asked the wrong person.

I was expecting niju as the clear answer.

Why did you trust speed enough to give him your role?

I don't know, but it hasn't seemed to have backfired yet.

[Elohcin]

Does anyone else think it is weird that Luna is suddenly very involved now that she is on a narrowed list?

[dunya]

I don't know, but it hasn't seemed to have backfired yet.

1. You're an on ongoing suspect in this game.
2. There's been 2 failed kills so...

[Lunalee]

Does anyone else think it is weird that Luna is suddenly very involved now that she is on a narrowed list?

haha, that might be part of it. Or the fact that I have a free moment to sit down with my laptop.

[speedchuck]

It's ok speed. I dont think you're town because of your role. If we saw Jack as a doctor flip bad, I'm not trusting anti e this game.

Jack was an extortion racket. More like an American government healthcare system than a doc.

Why did you trust speed enough to give him your role?

Her role sucks anyway (It's a cool role, but if she's telling the truth, it's not the strongest)

[Lunalee]

I don't know, but it hasn't seemed to have backfired yet.

1. You're an on ongoing suspect in this game.
2. There's been 2 failed kills so...

not sure I understand what you're getting at.

[dunya]

It's ok speed. I dont think you're town because of your role. If we saw Jack as a doctor flip bad, I'm not trusting anti e this game.

Jack was an extortion racket. More like an American government healthcare system than a doc.

Lmao.

A host confirmed doctor none the less. Your btsc don't impress me much, buddy.

[novaselinenever]

[Lunalee]

It's ok speed. I dont think you're town because of your role. If we saw Jack as a doctor flip bad, I'm not trusting anti e this game.

Jack was an extortion racket. More like an American government healthcare system than a doc.

Why did you trust speed enough to give him your role?

Her role sucks anyway (It's a cool role, but if she's telling the truth, it's not the strongest)

I thought it was cool.

[dunya]

I don't know, but it hasn't seemed to have backfired yet.

1. You're an on ongoing suspect in this game.
2. There's been 2 failed kills so...

not sure I understand what you're getting at.

If you're town and speed is bad and you have a weak role like he's claiming, why would he kill you when you're a potential easy lynch? And what if mafia tried to kill you but failed for one reason or another?

[speedchuck]

It's ok speed. I dont think you're town because of your role. If we saw Jack as a doctor flip bad, I'm not trusting anti e this game.

Jack was an extortion racket. More like an American government healthcare system than a doc.

Lmao.

A host confirmed doctor none the less. Your btsc don't impress me much, buddy.

Everyone always wants to kill the Neighborizer. So nefarious how I can chat with people.

[dunya]

It's ok speed. I dont think you're town because of your role. If we saw Jack as a doctor flip bad, I'm not trusting anti e this game.

Jack was an extortion racket. More like an American government healthcare system than a doc.

Lmao.

A host confirmed doctor none the less. Your btsc don't impress me much, buddy.

Everyone always wants to kill the Neighborizer. So nefarious how I can chat with people.

You got Luna's role out of her, didn't you? Doesn't seem innocent to me when you're also anti role claiming as you said

[novaselinenever]

My role has a clever twist on it. It's really neat.

[dunya]

Neverwhere just genuinely looks too busy to be in this game. But looking back at her posts, she seems to be trying with each checkin instead of just making excuses. Also she's congratulated each scum lynch. I really want to town-read Neverwhere.

I reread the lowposters earlier today, and I came away thinking that neverwhere seemed ok too. I did not get the best feeling from Niju. I also tend to suspect Rey is bad every time he doesn’t show up. That’s an old school bias that I haven’t been able to shake, but I also would hate to lynch someone who is a no show. He’s not exactly doing any harm so I’m not sure whether he’s worth thinking about.

Can you explain the old school bias? Why does rey have to be bad over leetic for example?

[dunya]

I need to sleep, it's past 2 am and I have work tomorrow again. Keep the discussion going folks. Don't limit yourselves to the poll. Ask yourselves WHY Ddl would narrow the poll down today. What are his motives for doing so? And have fun!

[Matahari]

Neverwhere just genuinely looks too busy to be in this game. But looking back at her posts, she seems to be trying with each checkin instead of just making excuses. Also she's congratulated each scum lynch. I really want to town-read Neverwhere.

I reread the lowposters earlier today, and I came away thinking that neverwhere seemed ok too. I did not get the best feeling from Niju. I also tend to suspect Rey is bad every time he doesn’t show up. That’s an old school bias that I haven’t been able to shake, but I also would hate to lynch someone who is a no show. He’s not exactly doing any harm so I’m not sure whether he’s worth thinking about.

Can you explain the old school bias? Why does rey have to be bad over leetic for example?

He doesn’t. They could both/neither be bad. The os bias is that anyone who is a no show, or early disappearance, and doesn’t get replaced, is probably bad. This is how it would go: I would say “ I think the missing X should be lynched today since we aren’t sure about anyone else. Everyone says “no that’s awful. We can’t do that” finally X gets replaced. Two days later, everyone lynches him. Most times he was bad, but not always.

That, plus I recall Rey saying he hated being mafia. That has probably changed too.

Juliet’s might remember a game at RevMaf, where a guy named spaghetti (I think), never showed up after the first day or two. At end game, he effin won as a mafia.

I will shake this bias eventually.

[Matahari]

Ebwop- I mention Juliet’s because we had bts that game and I fussed about the missing guy the whole time.

[speedchuck]

My role has a clever twist on it. It's really neat.

Do you want me to share?

[speedchuck]

It's ok speed. I dont think you're town because of your role. If we saw Jack as a doctor flip bad, I'm not trusting anti e this game.

Jack was an extortion racket. More like an American government healthcare system than a doc.

Lmao.

A host confirmed doctor none the less. Your btsc don't impress me much, buddy.

Everyone always wants to kill the Neighborizer. So nefarious how I can chat with people.

You got Luna's role out of her, didn't you? Doesn't seem innocent to me when you're also anti role claiming as you said

If I was really trying to do this, my targets for last night and tonight wouldn't make sense.

[Lunalee]

I don't know, but it hasn't seemed to have backfired yet.

1. You're an on ongoing suspect in this game.
2. There's been 2 failed kills so...

not sure I understand what you're getting at.

If you're town and speed is bad and you have a weak role like he's claiming, why would he kill you when you're a potential easy lynch? And what if mafia tried to kill you but failed for one reason or another?

yeah, okay. I see. I still feel like he's probably town.

[speedchuck]

I'm about 70%+ on Luna being town. I'll probably not vote there today without compelling reason.

[juliets]

Neverwhere just genuinely looks too busy to be in this game. But looking back at her posts, she seems to be trying with each checkin instead of just making excuses. Also she's congratulated each scum lynch. I really want to town-read Neverwhere.

I reread the lowposters earlier today, and I came away thinking that neverwhere seemed ok too. I did not get the best feeling from Niju. I also tend to suspect Rey is bad every time he doesn’t show up. That’s an old school bias that I haven’t been able to shake, but I also would hate to lynch someone who is a no show. He’s not exactly doing any harm so I’m not sure whether he’s worth thinking about.

Can you explain the old school bias? Why does rey have to be bad over leetic for example?

He doesn’t. They could both/neither be bad. The os bias is that anyone who is a no show, or early disappearance, and doesn’t get replaced, is probably bad. This is how it would go: I would say “ I think the missing X should be lynched today since we aren’t sure about anyone else. Everyone says “no that’s awful. We can’t do that” finally X gets replaced. Two days later, everyone lynches him. Most times he was bad, but not always.

That, plus I recall Rey saying he hated being mafia. That has probably changed too.

Juliet’s might remember a game at RevMaf, where a guy named spaghetti (I think), never showed up after the first day or two. At end game, he effin won as a mafia.

I will shake this bias eventually.

Oh my gosh yes I remember that!

I have seen it happen on this site too and it is SOO annoying.

I have to say I agree with dunya about DDL. I'm not convinced it was a townie thing to do to restrict the poll to inactive. I think we were doing pretty damn well with an unrestricted poll. (LC probably doesn't like that vulgarity, lol). If enough people agreed that we should lynch an inactive we would have lynched one.