MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Some JessieKruger stuff

Note: I'm not sure where Jessie is from. There may be a language barrier.

Spoiler: show

To make my list easier for those to see and as a tl;dr for everyone who doesnt wanna go through all my posts

[town]
JJJ
Speed
Jack
DDL

[everyone else]


[scum]
Ultra
Gemma

My reads, in order

Since ultra turned out scum , did you see the link between ultras and gemmas play.

This seems quite awkward to me as a first effort to get involved with game-relevant dialogues. I don't know what "the link" is that Jessie is referring to regarding Gemma and Ultra (or if he meant "a" link). In any event it just looks cooked. This is similar.

Spoiler: show

Hi nova you are right i initially agreed drago on that post however i read back owner iso post . I did not like his push on jjj in day 1 phase thats it i guess.

Since i think owner has role claimed as tracker in one of his post and he is consistently playing better in this day phase.

I dont like how dragos wanted a desperate vote on her. Just doesnt feel right if he flips green i am opened to be questioned.

This is all vague, and it strikes me as an effort to justify a vote for Dragomir rather than to explain suspicion of Dragomir.

[MacDougall]

Sorry my wifey asked me to fold laundry

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I like the way we have opened this poll. Fire meet arse.

[MacDougall]

DRAGOMIR
DRAGON D. LUFFY

Bad
Good

[MacDougall]

NOVASELINENEVER
JESSIEKRUGER

Good
Good

[MacDougall]

RUNDONTWALK2
TSAIAH

Good
Bad

[MacDougall]

GEMMA
OWNER OF A LONELY HEART

Good
Good

[MacDougall]

MACDOUGALL
SPEEDCHUCK

Best at sex worldwide
Good

[MacDougall]

JAGGEDJIMMYJAY
M PLUS 7
LUXURIOUS

Good
Bad
Good

[speedchuck]

MACDOUGALL
SPEEDCHUCK

Best at sex worldwide
Good

So a second there I thought he had this right.

But then I realized he had it backwards.

[MacDougall]

Now update dat spreadsheetuuuuu

[MacDougall]

MACDOUGALL
SPEEDCHUCK

Best at sex worldwide
Good

So a second there I thought he had this right.

But then I realized he had it backwards.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Apparently I closed it and didn't save.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Gonna have to be later anyway. I have eight thousand tests to grade tonight.

[Jackofhearts2005]

NOVASELINENEVER

great

[Tangrowth]

My deepest apologies to everyone; every time I think I'll have time for this, [insert sentiment about when it rains it pours]. I've had unexpected medical shit to deal with this week amid it being the second last week of the semester. Hopefully Sloonei can find a replacement.

[MacDougall]

Nova do you have a reason for voting RDW?

[novaselinenever]

Hey nova can you explain your rdw read

I'm not sure lol. Haven't really had a reason to townread him ever since the game started, the Jay early on remark stroke me was disingenuous. Like the scum questioning town reads on them, rather then townie paranoid and calling bullshit on a read kind. I also didn't like his highjacking of Jack/DDL for the Dragomir, felt more like a cheap way to justify a vote on the poll rather than explain and share suspicions on someone. He strikes through his tone and the bits of interactions he has here and there (mostly fluff) as someone informed, rather than a busy townie running behind. I guess that scum chat is efficient

[novaselinenever]

Nova do you have a reason for voting RDW?

[novaselinenever]

Gonna have to be later anyway. I have eight thousand tests to grade tonight.

[novaselinenever]

Mac you ain't got a lot of beef, what gives?

[MacDougall]

Mac you ain't got a lot of beef, what gives?

The beef cow got executed and was a civilian

[JessieKruger]

Mplus7 is likely scum feels like he has been under radar for a while will need to iso him .


I dont like novas defense of dragomir as well.

He was desperate for owners lynch .

[JessieKruger]

Seems like mplus7 is not plqying the game from his last post ?

What do you guys think of DDL ?

[Dragomir]

I'm at work right now and won't be able to come through with my thoughts on the recent pages for until a few hours. Just one thing though, this wagon on me is bad and reeks of an attempt to save Soneji. RDW looks even more bad in my eyes.

How do you feel now thar Soneji flipped town

I am confused. My impression was that I was a counter wagon to save Soneji but seeing how both leading wagons are town, it makes me think that there were more town in my wagon than on Soneji's wagon as it doesn't make sense for scum to get another wagon going when they can just hop on the leading wagon which was a mislynch.

[Dragomir]

@Dragomir Why didn't you vote when you had the chance to self-preserve?

Didn't really cross my mind. I hadn't the thought the DP would end before I get back on my laptop.

[Dragomir]

Wtf is this bad good shit? Also, the hell are the logical reasons for me being scum? I don't see any.

[Dragomir]

DRAGOMIR
DRAGON D. LUFFY

Fantastic
[VOTE: DRAGON D. LUFFY] aubergine

[Dragomir]

Mplus7 is likely scum feels like he has been under radar for a while will need to iso him .


I dont like novas defense of dragomir as well.

He was desperate for owners lynch .

Explain how I was desperate for Owner's lynch.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I dont like novas defense of dragomir as well.

He was desperate for owners lynch .

Please point to the post or posts you are referring to specifically, and then tell me why they make Dragomir a mafioso.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Wtf is this bad good shit?

Gun-to-head reads. We took stances on each player without allowing anything other than "good" or "bad".

Also, the hell are the logical reasons for me being scum? I don't see any.

Stuff like this rubs me the wrong way:

Spoiler: show

If y'all actually sussing Nova after what he did yesterday, y'all gotta go.

First of all, you protected JJJ over Nova? Second of all, how do you know the heal was successful? Could be more reasons for why nobody died last night aside from you protecting your target.

I still sus Owner and DDL pretty heavily. RDW is someone I'm taking interest in as well. I'm finna go back and read Ultra's interactions.

Damn, seeing Owner's claim, he might be fine then. Off to DDL it is then.

I believe Owner identifies as a woman.

Yeah, I keep forgetting.

Why did Owner’s claim convince you she was town

She claimed tracker and apparently tracked you to JJJ which you confirmed. This is a pretty dumb question.

You seem to be treating the game like there are obvious facts and "logic" to callback your original question here. Your post history is emotionless, and it looks like you're playing Mafia with a calculator.

Also when you had an opportunity to dig in and talk with DDL, the guy you've suspected so much, this was what came of that:

Spoiler: show

This reeks of chainsaw defense.

You know, isn't Ultra technically chainsaw defending DDL here when he attacks JJJ here? Especially even more as Ultra went to make his stance and vote on JJJ. I mean, he's technically defending DDL by attacking JJJ's vote on DDL calling it out as a chainsaw defense. This makes me sus of DDL even more.

novaselinenever I understand your case against JJJ but I press x to doubt that he's buddies with Ultra. The latter made his case and vote against JJJ and it's not like Ultra was in any danger of being lynched at that time for a distance attempt to make sense here, so what Ultra's fake case on JJJ is not coming off as a bus or distance imo. Also, I'm strong scum reading Owner and she also made her wishy washy case against JJJ, who again Ultra used for his fake case, so I definitely see more of a pairing between two buddies going against one townie there.

Dragomir if all you do in the game is place a picture of me on your wall and throw shit at it you are going to be lynched before I am.

Lol, ok. Didn't say anything about trying to get you lynched here, only pointed out something interested. But aight then.

Didn't say anything about trying to get you lynched here

What?

You practically cursed me and all my descendants and threatened to pour salt onto our land.

By saying that what Ultra did made you look worse?

What about yesterday? You did nothing but attack me.

Are you backtracking on that?

I don't care what happened last DP. I'm talking about the now. I'm still sussing you for what I called you out for but I'm not planning on making an almighty push you at this moment.

I mean, what is this reassurance to DDL that you're not trying to lynch him? Eh?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I reviewed Gemma's posts with a mind for finding stances, any stances, to determine where she stands at present. What constitutes a "stance" can be debated; I omitted some posts which reflected reads going both ways at once (or something similar) and questions she asked which could imply reads but don't necessarily.

Gemma's positive reads:

Spoiler: show

nova do you want to help me solve the game

Of course. What do you have?

not much lol

weak townreads on jjj and mac

owner's scumread on you is... something. i don't know how to talk about it but if the mod confirmed for me that she was town then i would have to assume that it was some kind of eccentric variation of a toneread?

I think I'm townreading all of these people to some degree.

Owner
Speedy
Mac
Epig
DDL
JJJ

Someone talk to me about Jesse

He seems derpy, and I guess I associate that with town.

Hi nova you are right i initially agreed drago on that post however i read back owner iso post . I did not like his push on jjj in day 1 phase thats it i guess.

Since i think owner has role claimed as tracker in one of his post and he is consistently playing better in this day phase.

I dont like how dragos wanted a desperate vote on her. Just doesnt feel right if he flips green i am opened to be questioned.

Townie mindset imo

Gemma's negative reads:

Spoiler: show

Vote: jackofhearts

i don't like his attitude

Talk to me about Jack. What do you see in his attitude?

read this post and let me know if there is any actual reasoning for a scumread in it

Hmm... we dont have any information to work on yet, so we should probably no lynch d1.

[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine

Oof. Remember all the times DDL didn't do shit like this?

And remember the time he did shit like this to me when he was scum in Addams Family?

Bad reason to vote Speedchuck. Welcome to my scumreads.

vote: ultra

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL

i agree that was a bad vote dot tm

um

epig shaded jjj with what i thought was a really bad question, so i asked him what his jjj read was in order to tell if he was town genuinely suspecting jjj or scum just wanting to throw cheap shade. he refused to tell me what his jjj read actually was. how exactly does my questioning feel weird when it was epig who was being rude to me and trying to gaslight me?

i wasn't implying that jjj should be townread, or anything else about him. if there is a reason for jjj to be town it's probably his wild bursts of posting, but that's not very good reasoning

i loled because what else am i supposed to do when someone refuses to talk to me and eventually answered my question about someone he is apparently scumreading by saying that he doesn't have to talk about his townreads. nothing i've asked is surface level, you just aren't looking any deeper, and apparently aren't even reading the posts if that is your takeaway from our exchange? the dude is clearly more interested in his own sense of privilege than actually talking to another person as an equal (sorry if that's a bit harsh)

i don't think his question was in good faith

I have no objections to a Soneji lynch, but I moved back to MP as a placeholder.

I just voted Jack. Come back to this wagon. Competing wagons are fun.

What would you do Gemma?

Shoot Jack 3 times.

As it stands, all of the people mentioned in that "negative" group are gone, which means that now, the following is literally true:

Idk, I don't think I can vote Dragomir here over Soneji when Soneji has been super no show. I don't really think either of them are super likely to flip mafia but I have no scumreads this game so that probably doesn't mean very much

It's rare to find someone with 150 posts by EOD2 in a situation with no suspicions left to start D3. This post history is aimless to an extent that I struggle to take seriously.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Mac I need you to explain to me your earlier concern with Epignosis and the state of the poll re: DDL like I am five.

I thought Epi was mafia. I saw things in him that I have not seen before.

My initial thoughts were DDL killed him because of the legendary volumes of wifom it would create but I'm just gonna force myself out of the tunnel on DDL.

HYPE

[Dragon D. Luffy]

DRAGOMIR
DRAGON D. LUFFY

bad
good

good
good

[Dragon D. Luffy]

NOVASELINENEVER
JESSIEKRUGER

good
bad

[Dragon D. Luffy]

RUNDONTWALK2
TSAIAH

good
bad

[Dragon D. Luffy]

GEMMA
OWNER OF A LONELY HEART

good
good

[Dragon D. Luffy]

MACDOUGALL
SPEEDCHUCK

good
bad

[Dragon D. Luffy]

JAGGEDJIMMYJAY
M PLUS 7
LUXURIOUS

Bad
Bad
Good

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I'm at work right now and won't be able to come through with my thoughts on the recent pages for until a few hours. Just one thing though, this wagon on me is bad and reeks of an attempt to save Soneji. RDW looks even more bad in my eyes.

How do you feel now thar Soneji flipped town

I am confused. My impression was that I was a counter wagon to save Soneji but seeing how both leading wagons are town, it makes me think that there were more town in my wagon than on Soneji's wagon as it doesn't make sense for scum to get another wagon going when they can just hop on the leading wagon which was a mislynch.

There are 3 mafias in this game.

Both wagons had more town than mafia.

The kind of large scale manipulation you describe will only become possible near the end game, after we lynch a lot of townies. Right now the most mafia can do is try to convince people to vote for townies.

[Luxurious]

I'm at work right now and won't be able to come through with my thoughts on the recent pages for until a few hours. Just one thing though, this wagon on me is bad and reeks of an attempt to save Soneji. RDW looks even more bad in my eyes.

How do you feel now thar Soneji flipped town

I am confused. My impression was that I was a counter wagon to save Soneji but seeing how both leading wagons are town, it makes me think that there were more town in my wagon than on Soneji's wagon as it doesn't make sense for scum to get another wagon going when they can just hop on the leading wagon which was a mislynch.

How does it affect your RDW read? Why are you scum reading him anyway

[Luxurious]

MACDOUGALL
SPEEDCHUCK

Best at sex worldwide
Good

So a second there I thought he had this right.

But then I realized he had it backwards.

Hey speed why didnt you do the alignment thing when you were here?

[Luxurious]

Seems like mplus7 is not plqying the game from his last post ?

What do you guys think of DDL ?

You dont need to iso a dude with 3 posts

DDL is town. What do you think of DDL

[Luxurious]

Has speed actually done anything outside of his Jack push yesterday

[Dragomir]

I'm at work right now and won't be able to come through with my thoughts on the recent pages for until a few hours. Just one thing though, this wagon on me is bad and reeks of an attempt to save Soneji. RDW looks even more bad in my eyes.

How do you feel now thar Soneji flipped town

I am confused. My impression was that I was a counter wagon to save Soneji but seeing how both leading wagons are town, it makes me think that there were more town in my wagon than on Soneji's wagon as it doesn't make sense for scum to get another wagon going when they can just hop on the leading wagon which was a mislynch.

How does it affect your RDW read? Why are you scum reading him anyway

He hasn't done anything contributive and productive this entire game and then sheep on my wagon with literal piss poor reasoning. Nothing about that is coming from a Town POV.

[Luxurious]

I'm at work right now and won't be able to come through with my thoughts on the recent pages for until a few hours. Just one thing though, this wagon on me is bad and reeks of an attempt to save Soneji. RDW looks even more bad in my eyes.

How do you feel now thar Soneji flipped town

I am confused. My impression was that I was a counter wagon to save Soneji but seeing how both leading wagons are town, it makes me think that there were more town in my wagon than on Soneji's wagon as it doesn't make sense for scum to get another wagon going when they can just hop on the leading wagon which was a mislynch.

How does it affect your RDW read? Why are you scum reading him anyway

He hasn't done anything contributive and productive this entire game and then sheep on my wagon with literal piss poor reasoning. Nothing about that is coming from a Town POV.

Can you go through the GTH reads and assign each person good/ bad?

The only two reads I remember are RDW and DDL. I also havent seen you post any townreads?

Tyia

[Dragomir]

I also ain't liking Jessie. His posts lack any decent substance and it seems like he's flinging his suspicions around at players and not being wholehearted with them.

I'd suggest a lynch on either him or RDW if you guys are opposed to lynching DDL.

[Dragomir]

I'm at work right now and won't be able to come through with my thoughts on the recent pages for until a few hours. Just one thing though, this wagon on me is bad and reeks of an attempt to save Soneji. RDW looks even more bad in my eyes.

How do you feel now thar Soneji flipped town

I am confused. My impression was that I was a counter wagon to save Soneji but seeing how both leading wagons are town, it makes me think that there were more town in my wagon than on Soneji's wagon as it doesn't make sense for scum to get another wagon going when they can just hop on the leading wagon which was a mislynch.

How does it affect your RDW read? Why are you scum reading him anyway

He hasn't done anything contributive and productive this entire game and then sheep on my wagon with literal piss poor reasoning. Nothing about that is coming from a Town POV.

Can you go through the GTH reads and assign each person good/ bad?

The only two reads I remember are RDW and DDL. I also havent seen you post any townreads?

Tyia

Not really interested in doing that.

I don't really like posting my townreads.

[Luxurious]

I also ain't liking Jessie. His posts lack any decent substance and it seems like he's flinging his suspicions around at players and not being wholehearted with them.

I'd suggest a lynch on either him or RDW if you guys are opposed to lynching DDL.

Spoiler: show

What about his posts strikes you as not being wholehearted

Why do you still wanna lynch DDL? Why does everyone else’s opinion matter

[Dragomir]

Wtf is this bad good shit?

Gun-to-head reads. We took stances on each player without allowing anything other than "good" or "bad".

Also, the hell are the logical reasons for me being scum? I don't see any.

Stuff like this rubs me the wrong way:

Spoiler: show

If y'all actually sussing Nova after what he did yesterday, y'all gotta go.

First of all, you protected JJJ over Nova? Second of all, how do you know the heal was successful? Could be more reasons for why nobody died last night aside from you protecting your target.

I still sus Owner and DDL pretty heavily. RDW is someone I'm taking interest in as well. I'm finna go back and read Ultra's interactions.

Damn, seeing Owner's claim, he might be fine then. Off to DDL it is then.

I believe Owner identifies as a woman.

Yeah, I keep forgetting.

Why did Owner’s claim convince you she was town

She claimed tracker and apparently tracked you to JJJ which you confirmed. This is a pretty dumb question.

You seem to be treating the game like there are obvious facts and "logic" to callback your original question here. Your post history is emotionless, and it looks like you're playing Mafia with a calculator.

Also when you had an opportunity to dig in and talk with DDL, the guy you've suspected so much, this was what came of that:

Spoiler: show

This reeks of chainsaw defense.

You know, isn't Ultra technically chainsaw defending DDL here when he attacks JJJ here? Especially even more as Ultra went to make his stance and vote on JJJ. I mean, he's technically defending DDL by attacking JJJ's vote on DDL calling it out as a chainsaw defense. This makes me sus of DDL even more.

novaselinenever I understand your case against JJJ but I press x to doubt that he's buddies with Ultra. The latter made his case and vote against JJJ and it's not like Ultra was in any danger of being lynched at that time for a distance attempt to make sense here, so what Ultra's fake case on JJJ is not coming off as a bus or distance imo. Also, I'm strong scum reading Owner and she also made her wishy washy case against JJJ, who again Ultra used for his fake case, so I definitely see more of a pairing between two buddies going against one townie there.

Dragomir if all you do in the game is place a picture of me on your wall and throw shit at it you are going to be lynched before I am.

Lol, ok. Didn't say anything about trying to get you lynched here, only pointed out something interested. But aight then.

Didn't say anything about trying to get you lynched here

What?

You practically cursed me and all my descendants and threatened to pour salt onto our land.

By saying that what Ultra did made you look worse?

What about yesterday? You did nothing but attack me.

Are you backtracking on that?

I don't care what happened last DP. I'm talking about the now. I'm still sussing you for what I called you out for but I'm not planning on making an almighty push you at this moment.

I mean, what is this reassurance to DDL that you're not trying to lynch him? Eh?

Yes I do treat somethings as facts because that's how it is in my POV. What does emotionless posts have to do with anything? Explain to me what I was supposed to talk to DDL about in those interactions? Cause I wanted to correct his post on me trying to lynch him the entire game. I'm not sure what else there was to talk about cause there wasn't. Is it a common theme on this site to interact against players with 2 agendas in mind?