Nothing is impossible. Mafia is just all about odds. You think it's "pretty likely" suffice to say that I would be very shocked.
We will only need to cross that bridge if Creature flips civ.
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Nothing is impossible. Mafia is just all about odds. You think it's "pretty likely" suffice to say that I would be very shocked.
What if you're the scum and you know he'll flip civ and you're just beyond delighted that drago and I have inadvertently set ourselves up as the next easy mislynches?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:43 pmNothing is impossible. Mafia is just all about odds. You think it's "pretty likely" suffice to say that I would be very shocked.
We will only need to cross that bridge if Creature flips civ.
What if? If you think that's likely you have 12 minutes to do something about it.nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:44 pmWhat if you're the scum and you know he'll flip civ and you're just beyond delighted that drago and I have inadvertently set ourselves up as the next easy mislynches?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:43 pmNothing is impossible. Mafia is just all about odds. You think it's "pretty likely" suffice to say that I would be very shocked.
We will only need to cross that bridge if Creature flips civ.
Extreme in that I don't really think it's the case, idk probably not the right word. Like tinfoilMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:55 pm That "extreme theory"?
Wtf. It's hardly an extreme theory. It is logical and observed over nearly 10 years of play.
So you disagree and chose to describe my observation as extreme?nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:57 pmExtreme in that I don't really think it's the case, idk probably not the right word. Like tinfoilMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:55 pm That "extreme theory"?
Wtf. It's hardly an extreme theory. It is logical and observed over nearly 10 years of play.
What? I don't follow. I think we're talking about different things.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:01 pmSo you disagree and chose to describe my observation as extreme?nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:57 pmExtreme in that I don't really think it's the case, idk probably not the right word. Like tinfoilMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:55 pm That "extreme theory"?
Wtf. It's hardly an extreme theory. It is logical and observed over nearly 10 years of play.
Yes incorrect word indeed.
What extreme theory are you referring to?nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:03 pmWhat? I don't follow. I think we're talking about different things.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:01 pmSo you disagree and chose to describe my observation as extreme?nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:57 pmExtreme in that I don't really think it's the case, idk probably not the right word. Like tinfoilMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:55 pm That "extreme theory"?
Wtf. It's hardly an extreme theory. It is logical and observed over nearly 10 years of play.
Yes incorrect word indeed.
Well we can agree on that. It is weird that creature went silent and never defended himself, maybe you are right about him after all and he gave upMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:02 pm Can't believe how quiet an end of the day that was though. Bizarre.
My post at the end of last page that maybe you are bad and taking advantage of me and drago defending creature to set up mislynches.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:06 pmWhat extreme theory are you referring to?nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:03 pmWhat? I don't follow. I think we're talking about different things.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:01 pmSo you disagree and chose to describe my observation as extreme?nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:57 pmExtreme in that I don't really think it's the case, idk probably not the right word. Like tinfoilMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:55 pm That "extreme theory"?
Wtf. It's hardly an extreme theory. It is logical and observed over nearly 10 years of play.
Yes incorrect word indeed.
See this man right here is lock fucking town regardless of creature's flip.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:09 pm The only way Nutella and I are mafia is if Creature is mafia as well. Like if Creature is town, then we can't be mafia as I find it bullshit that mafia would try to stop a mislynch and start a new wagon. That makes no sense. Mafia needs to get mislynches, and they just stop one for town cred? Nonsense.
Call this wifom, I don't care.
So you think Mafia don't attempt to cash in on civwagons by refuting them? Never before seen that?Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:09 pm The only way Nutella and I are mafia is if Creature is mafia as well. Like if Creature is town, then we can't be mafia as I find it bullshit that mafia would try to stop a mislynch and start a new wagon. That makes no sense. Mafia needs to get mislynches, and they just stop one for town cred? Nonsense.
Call this wifom, I don't care.
I think he is. I don't think you are.nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:11 pmSee this man right here is lock fucking town regardless of creature's flip.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:09 pm The only way Nutella and I are mafia is if Creature is mafia as well. Like if Creature is town, then we can't be mafia as I find it bullshit that mafia would try to stop a mislynch and start a new wagon. That makes no sense. Mafia needs to get mislynches, and they just stop one for town cred? Nonsense.
Call this wifom, I don't care.
Tbh, giving up is a town tell at least for me. Where I come from, townies be giving up all the time. Even I've given up as a town before.nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:06 pmWell we can agree on that. It is weird that creature went silent and never defended himself, maybe you are right about him after all and he gave upMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:02 pm Can't believe how quiet an end of the day that was though. Bizarre.
Nope and yep. Never seen that in my entire mafia career.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:13 pmSo you think Mafia don't attempt to cash in on civwagons by refuting them? Never before seen that?Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:09 pm The only way Nutella and I are mafia is if Creature is mafia as well. Like if Creature is town, then we can't be mafia as I find it bullshit that mafia would try to stop a mislynch and start a new wagon. That makes no sense. Mafia needs to get mislynches, and they just stop one for town cred? Nonsense.
Call this wifom, I don't care.
I assure you that you are very wrong and if you assume that you will lose more games here than you win.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:17 pmNope and yep. Never seen that in my entire mafia career.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:13 pmSo you think Mafia don't attempt to cash in on civwagons by refuting them? Never before seen that?Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:09 pm The only way Nutella and I are mafia is if Creature is mafia as well. Like if Creature is town, then we can't be mafia as I find it bullshit that mafia would try to stop a mislynch and start a new wagon. That makes no sense. Mafia needs to get mislynches, and they just stop one for town cred? Nonsense.
Call this wifom, I don't care.
I get what you mean here. It would be bad if they're avoiding the lynch BUT, if a player is actively trying to get a new wagon formed and completely stop the progress of another lynch cause they believe it's a mislynch(and it really is) then I find it hard to believe that the person is mafia.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:18 pm Mafia need to do more than get mislynches to win Dragomir they also need to prevent their own. Avoiding civ wagons is a good way to do just that. A civ wagon that forms incorrectly is almost always formed by civilians. It's the ones avoiding it that I look at. Invariably people immediately pick through the people that form the wagon to look for bad guys which Creature himself did already ironically.
The Mafia player has no choice but to make their counterwagon building look sincere. Why wouldn't they try hard to create a counterwagon? The sweet spot is looking like you're trying hard but the original lynch goes off anyway.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:22 pmI get what you mean here. It would be bad if they're avoiding the lynch BUT, if a player is actively trying to get a new wagon formed and completely stop the progress of another lynch cause they believe it's a mislynch(and it really is) then I find it hard to believe that the person is mafia.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:18 pm Mafia need to do more than get mislynches to win Dragomir they also need to prevent their own. Avoiding civ wagons is a good way to do just that. A civ wagon that forms incorrectly is almost always formed by civilians. It's the ones avoiding it that I look at. Invariably people immediately pick through the people that form the wagon to look for bad guys which Creature himself did already ironically.
You right. But looking genuine when you're actually not is pretty hard to do.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:24 pmThe Mafia player has no choice but to make their counterwagon building look sincere. Why wouldn't they try hard to create a counterwagon? The sweet spot is looking like you're trying hard but the original lynch goes off anyway.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:22 pmI get what you mean here. It would be bad if they're avoiding the lynch BUT, if a player is actively trying to get a new wagon formed and completely stop the progress of another lynch cause they believe it's a mislynch(and it really is) then I find it hard to believe that the person is mafia.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:18 pm Mafia need to do more than get mislynches to win Dragomir they also need to prevent their own. Avoiding civ wagons is a good way to do just that. A civ wagon that forms incorrectly is almost always formed by civilians. It's the ones avoiding it that I look at. Invariably people immediately pick through the people that form the wagon to look for bad guys which Creature himself did already ironically.
Anyway conjecture. Let's await the Creature flip.
I thought the LC case was fine but unfortunately not enough people were even active today let alone joined it. That is in no way my fault for lack of trying. Shut upMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:21 pm I mean from my perspective. The Long Con wagon you built never had petrol.
You should consider whether nutella is buddying you Dragomir.
Well sure but when the original lynch is going off because the other people didn't show up then it's not the fault of the person who started the counterwagon attempt.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:24 pmThe Mafia player has no choice but to make their counterwagon building look sincere. Why wouldn't they try hard to create a counterwagon? The sweet spot is looking like you're trying hard but the original lynch goes off anyway.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:22 pmI get what you mean here. It would be bad if they're avoiding the lynch BUT, if a player is actively trying to get a new wagon formed and completely stop the progress of another lynch cause they believe it's a mislynch(and it really is) then I find it hard to believe that the person is mafia.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:18 pm Mafia need to do more than get mislynches to win Dragomir they also need to prevent their own. Avoiding civ wagons is a good way to do just that. A civ wagon that forms incorrectly is almost always formed by civilians. It's the ones avoiding it that I look at. Invariably people immediately pick through the people that form the wagon to look for bad guys which Creature himself did already ironically.
Anyway conjecture. Let's await the Creature flip.
Nah, we actually tried to get a replacement wagon.
I actually am, and I feel like she's pocketing me but the read is not too strong.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:21 pm I mean from my perspective. The Long Con wagon you built never had petrol.
You should consider whether nutella is buddying you Dragomir.
Matahari wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 4:47 pm I tend to trust Mac so far. Maybe not 100%, but I don’t see a reason not to. He was quiet and town in one game, and more talkative and bad in the next. That’s very little to go on, but I’m a gut based player, and I have never played with six of these people. Mac has been steady on Creature, so I may vote him.
Some of Creature’s posts, I don’t even know what he means.
Matahari wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 4:47 pm I tend to trust Mac so far. Maybe not 100%, but I don’t see a reason not to. He was quiet and town in one game, and more talkative and bad in the next. That’s very little to go on, but I’m a gut based player, and I have never played with six of these people. Mac has been steady on Creature, so I may vote him.
Some of Creature’s posts, I don’t even know what he means.
Scum #2 spotted.
Better not be complaining.