Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)

[Creature]

Okay. He's talked about his Creature meta read a bit. He did last game too. He was wrong and I disagree with the premise on which he's expressed for town-reading Creature.

Cuz he did that pretty early? Like, you've commited the same mistake there and here (if you assume I am scum).

[Creature]

no one's doing anything.

Voteparking doesn't count as doing anything.

[Sloonei]

Second, in what instances and in what ways am I being antitown in this game? This is garbage. Cite your sources.

Let me see: fmpov your vote is on town and you're also refusing to do anything else other than voteparking on me. So yeah, I have reasons to believe you're being antitown rn even if not that blatant.

What. Dude. Look at this page. What reality are you existing in where the player called Sloonei isn't doing anything?

[sprityo]

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] [mention]birdwithteeth11[/mention] do you guys plan on breaking a tie?

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: sabie] aubergine so Creature can't spew that nonsense at me anymore.

Now it's your turn to do something, Creature.

[Creature]

Why are we all town reading Creature?

Now I fucking am.

[sprityo]

Watch this:

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

[Creature]

[VOTE: sabie] aubergine so Creature can't spew that nonsense at me anymore.

Now it's your turn to do something, Creature.

Yey let it rand?

[Creature]

Jay = TonyStark I assume?

[sprityo]

If creature and sloonei both vote Sabie they could save themselves.

But will they?

What would that look like?

[Creature]

Long Con
TonyStarkPrime
MacDougall
sabie12
Jackofhearts2005
Creature
Birdwithteeth
Glorfindel
Oreki
ColinIsCool
sprityo
Sloonei

There ya go.

Why is sabie12 so high up?

Would probably raise Glorfinel here.

[Creature]

Watch this:

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

Is town!sprityo like this or should I take this as a jesting scum?

[sprityo]

I’m a chaotic bastard, sorry

[Long Con]

Jay = TonyStark I assume?

No, JaggedJimmyJay... not a player in this game.

[Long Con]

Long Con
TonyStarkPrime
MacDougall
sabie12
Jackofhearts2005
Creature
Birdwithteeth
Glorfindel
Oreki
ColinIsCool
sprityo
Sloonei

There ya go.

Why is sabie12 so high up?

Would probably raise Glorfinel here.

Sabie's civ game clearly gets read as scum, so I'm putting her down as civ right now due to the number of people scum-reading her. Also, she has posts that I like, and read as civ, and talked about.

Glorf is to schticky for me to town-clear.

[Long Con]

no one's doing anything.

Voteparking doesn't count as doing anything.

This is self-focused to the extreme.

[TonyStarkPrime]

@TonyStarkPrime @birdwithteeth11 do you guys plan on breaking a tie?

No I’m stubborn.
Yeah I probably would. I’m not sure which I’d vote for. I think Sloonei is more likely to be mafia by a fair margin and I’m more comfortable with the people on that train but also Sloonei is providing valuable service in post content. I’d rather lynch you or Sabie or Colin, people I think are both less likely to be town than both Creature and Sloonei and are also providing less discussion than at least Sloonei.

[TonyStarkPrime]

That said don’t feel comfortable with Sloonei switching to Sabie

[Sloonei]

Long Con ISO time.

I have never played Fallout. I don't have time for video games with all my Mafia-ing.

So we can't discuss what items do. Can we theorize, or perhaps draw references from the game? For instance, a discussion about "is Nuka-Cola a desired item, or dangerous"?

No one brought up the overused "Mafia talk about mechanics early on" argument in this game. But I could apply it to LC here if I squint hard enough.

I have at least two (2) town reads on this page.

Who, and why?

It's more fun if you guess.

Mac and Creature.

He never told us why these two were his guesses.

I don't want to vote Epignosis or Creature. I'll [VOTE: Glorfindel] aubergine because he was too happy to get on the Epi wagon. Plus he needs an avatar.

An early vote for Glorfindel which can all be read as a vote explicitly not for Epi or Creature. Noted.

Sloonei playing the sphinx is also nagl.

I don't know your slang.

“Not a good look”, I assume.

Nice... I was going with "not alignment something something". You were being pretty sphinxy,

Indeed I was. What does that mean to you?

Let the record show that my vote somehow landed on you.

Not much yet, but to learn is to grow.

In retrospect, I'm not sure what the point of this exchange was. Maybe LC was testing the waters.

This Sabie chat from the Jack-Mac attack doesn't lack. I'll slap a vote on the Sabester. [VOTE: Sabie] aubergine

@sprityo Seeing all the votes on one page is not the intended benefit of Aubergine. We're supposed to be able to see all the votes in one search.

Initially on board with the sabie suspicion.

Irrelevant Information Retrieved:

Civilian sabie- Lynched Day 2
Civilian sabie - Lynched Day 1
Mafia sabie - Killed Night 1
Civilian sabie - Killed Night 1
Civilian sabie - Killed Night 2
Civilian sabie - Lynched Day 2

Conclusion: Dayum.

Are those sabie's six most recent games?

Affirmative.

That's too ugly for me. I'm unvoting her.

This does not look like an unnatural progression. I could see it as scum LC playing it safe. But I don't have to. I'll lean in his favor here.

I'm going to go with a wild gut read and say Epi's fun schtick and dedicated research is a flavourful tryhard smokescreen of deception. [VOTE: Epi] aubergine

If anyone ever manages to travel back in time to the start of the universe, they would find at the moment of creation Long Con and Epignosis tinfoiling each other.

Colin talk to me about LC and vice versa

I’m lazy, so I’m not going to.

Colin already talked about me. I just saw it in his ISO. He says:

1. I'm surfacey, when I'm usually not, and

2. He doesn't like my ratio of content to non-content.

He kind of wanted people to vote for me, but then decided to accuse Jack of the same thing and then later vote sprityo because Epi and sloonei were doing it.

I think Colin looks pretty bad. Good night Westley. Thank you for everything, I'll most likely vote you in the morning.

Colin looks bad for reasons that are clearly articulated. Noted. The vote stays on Epi for the time being though.

Well, your points against me are based on completely normal behaviour for me, which tells me that you are mafia, trying to invent a case by necessity. Shrugging off the responsibility for your final Day 1 vote to Epi and sloondog is also sketchy behaviour, buddying them while sheeping.

More stuff on Colin. To say nothing of whether or not I agree, I think LC looks genuine here. Seems like he's bothered by Colin's suspicion and would like him to shove it.

Just so we're all aware of the crucial dynamic at play in the early stages here, this scum role exists:

Once during the game during Phase 0 (no later, if you do not submit the action on time it will be wasted), you may select a player to apprehend and dip. That player will undergo the process of mutation in three stages:

Stage 1: During the day phase following being dipped (Day 1), the player will experience a huge increase in physical size and strength. He or she will be immune to two votes in the poll that day.
Stage 2: During the night phase following being dipped (Night 1), the player will lose command of their emotional and rational faculties, becoming wild and enraged. His or her night action will target randomly, unbeknownst to him or her.
Stage 3: At the start of the day phase following Stage 2 (Day 2), the player will have fully transformed into a supermutant. He or she will be ready to serve The Master as a member of your faction included in your BTSC. That player's original abilities will not be retained

A player who was town on Day 1 will be mafia on Day 2. They did not target BWT because neither of the votes against him would have counted yesterday if that was the case.

I know the person I would pick for this little surprise.

[End Dialogue]

Epignosis...

Did you pick me LC?

1. If I'm bad and picked you, voting you might expose you, which would be counterproductive.
2. Maybe...
3. You'd be a liability! Anyway, I think it would be prudent to consider the way the votes moved around Day 1 to see if any clues can be found on this matter.

4. You'll find out in the morning!

If there's anyone I can see making this post as mafia moments before Epi turns up dead, it's Long Con. That does not mean I think this is the case.

The number of people here that wouldn’t lynch Glor if he said “I am town” but who are voting Creature is interesting.

I would lynch Glorfindel if I suspected he were Mafia. I could lynch Glorf actually. Today. He's operating within a charming schtick that I assume is supported by some sort of JJJ instructional video that I have yet to watch. What a way to keep to the tight and narrow as a baddie. Schtick-and-roadmap, all in one.

I appreciate this healthy skepticism and don't know if this would be a fruitful angle for scum LC to push.

He's turned into a big sabie advocate today based primarily (it seems) on Epi's research into her recent history. The reward for doing this if he's mafia is minimal. Early on in this ISO I could see scum LC if I squinted hard enough. It's becoming increasingly difficult to do that.

His stuff about my rainbow is wrong but I never got the impression he was making up his suspicion. I can buy his tinfoil about a sloonei/sprityo pairing. I think it's counterproductive to be looking for pairings like that without a confirmed flip, but lots of people do it and I don't think his reasoning is totally off base for the approach that he's taking. I don't like the approach though.

Colin still holds a prominent place of suspicion in LC's recent rainbow, but sprit and I hold spots 1 & 2. Colin is #3. I'm interested in how that Colin suspicion has developed, since it seems the Sloonei/sprit suspicion is a joint read, but Colin is more suspicious independently, @Long Con. The @ tag isn't working. Just read all of these words, okay?

Long Con gets a comfortable town read. I'd put him in the second tier on an updated rainbow.

[Creature]

Will Oreki ever be replaced?

[Sloonei]

That said don’t feel comfortable with Sloonei switching to Sabie

why not?

my primary motive was to take Creature's rattle away. I don't consider my sabie vote to be anything like a final vote. But I do maintain a light, if somewhat unsubstantiated, suspicion against her. I'll be more confident one way or the other once I've ISO'd her.

[Sloonei]

Will Oreki ever be replaced?

he already has been.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Me personally. I just don’t like what creature has posted thus far.

Sloon is giving me bad gut heeby jeebies

And like someone said before, jack is just coasting and hasn’t been involved to the standard I expect from him

Jack is coasting. I think that’s NAI? Both town and maf Jack would theoretically be more involved. And he’s done less to that extent today though he still hasn’t been giving as much energy as I’d expect. Typically from maf Jack I’d expect coasting later but he’s smart enough to know that he could get by with it in this game if he’s maf.

[TonyStarkPrime]

That said don’t feel comfortable with Sloonei switching to Sabie

why not?

my primary motive was to take Creature's rattle away. I don't consider my sabie vote to be anything like a final vote. But I do maintain a light, if somewhat unsubstantiated, suspicion against her. I'll be more confident one way or the other once I've ISO'd her.

Fair. It looked opportunistic to me, allowing for more options to protect against being lynched. But I’ll hold suspicion.

[TonyStarkPrime]

That said don’t feel comfortable with Sloonei switching to Sabie

why not?

my primary motive was to take Creature's rattle away. I don't consider my sabie vote to be anything like a final vote. But I do maintain a light, if somewhat unsubstantiated, suspicion against her. I'll be more confident one way or the other once I've ISO'd her.

Fair. It looked opportunistic to me, allowing for more options to protect against being lynched. But I’ll hold suspicion.

Also I don’t think Creature needs excuses to rattle.

[Sloonei]

That said don’t feel comfortable with Sloonei switching to Sabie

why not?

my primary motive was to take Creature's rattle away. I don't consider my sabie vote to be anything like a final vote. But I do maintain a light, if somewhat unsubstantiated, suspicion against her. I'll be more confident one way or the other once I've ISO'd her.

Fair. It looked opportunistic to me, allowing for more options to protect against being lynched. But I’ll hold suspicion.

I hold onto my votes very loosely. Nothing is ever final for me until the poll is locked, and most of the time I'm just using it as a tool to sway the discussion one way or another.

this also applies to my brief sprityo vote yesterday.

[Creature]

Will Oreki ever be replaced?

he already has been.

Oh, then who replaced Dragomir?

[TonyStarkPrime]

No I’m not saying it’s suspicious because you switched your vote if you wanted to involve Sabie more in the conversation that’s a fine reason but 1) that’s something mafia would do and 2) you gave a weird excuse about Creature complaining


Unrelated:
aubergine vote Colin

[TonyStarkPrime]

Will Oreki ever be replaced?

he already has been.

Oh, then who replaced Dragomir?

As far as I can tell nobody

[Creature]

birdwithteeth11
2
14%
Voters: Creature, Sloonei

Epignosis
1
7%
Voters: Long Con

Glorfindel
1
7%
Voters: birdwithteeth11

Jackofhearts2005
2
14%
Voters: sabie12, Glorfindel

sabie12
2
14%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime, MacDougall

sprityo
2
14%
Voters: ColinIsCool, Epignosis

Not voting presently
2
14%
Voters: sprityo, Jackofhearts2005

[Creature]

I think Long Con is pretty much town from this.

[Sloonei]

I'm not ISOing Mac. He's got lots of posts and is a confident town read. I may look at him later, but as we're getting close to the end of the day here, my efforts would be better spent elsewhere.

So here's bwt 2.0. I'll stress that I also don't intend to push for his lynch today because, like, lynching the same dude each of the first two days of a game is a huge dick move in bird culture and human culture alike. But I still want to formulate a read on him.

Spoiler: show

Sloonei could have actually created a real lynch but instead spun onto BWT to make a 4 way tie. Loss of civilian read is necessitated.

I felt the best about a bwt lynch.

You're gonna have to express why mate. Because from where I sit BWT was by no metric the best d1 lynch.

I actually understand why the other two got votes more than him.

I remember someone saying that people voting BWT on day 1 are always bad too. Maybe LC?

My read on sabie is that she is just sabie. She gets mislynched for the things you accused her of fairly often. I expressed this several times during the day.

I wasn't voting Jack on Day 1 for being a doofus. That's dumb.

There is no strong reason to read sprityo one way or the other.

Some of birdwithteeth's posts struck me as light, fluffy things which I would associate with mafia members trying not to offend anyone on Day 1.

So I should have come out guns blazing on Day 1 with nothing to go on instead?

I chose to vote for the player I had the strongest suspicion against.

So you criticize me for not having strong suspicions on Day 1, but then base your own not having strong suspicions on Day 1 as the reason for voting for someone for not having strong suspicions on Day 1?

Wt actual f?

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine let's see how this feels

Wait wait wait what I did not see this the first time

I somehow missed this as well. Nice catch.

It makes sense that bwt2.0 would come in feeling salty toward the dude most responsible for his previous incarnation's mislynch. I don't fault him for getting all up in my business off the bat, even if I think he was misconstruing some things. But I misconstrued his things first, so that's fair.

Colin talk to me about LC and vice versa

I’m lazy, so I’m not going to.

Refusing to respond when requested to do so.

Blaming your Day 1 lynch on other players.

That's a fantastic track record there, sir.

Linki: Either that you were trying to come off as indecisive as a cover for Day 1, or that you were throwing shit at the wall to see what stuck.

He's not a big fan of Colin either.

This became boring too soon.

Day 1 creature: I don’t like this too boring
Day 2 creature: I don’t like this it got boring

The night 1 kill reads to me as a very active candidate that the mafia team is trying to eliminate. So the stifling worthwhile discussion route might be in play here?

Okay we’ve got 40some hours here here are the avenues that I think we should be pursuing

Creature
Colin
Sabie
sprityo

As you’ll note I sorted them by the letters their names start with.

To these four — who’s mafia? Give me names.
As far as everyone else goes, out of these four who is the most likely to be town?
I don’t have much time tonight to talk but if anyone has ideas I’ll take em.

My current order from least good to most good:

Colin
Creature
Sabie/sprityo

Seems more mildly opposed to Creature. The extent to which sabie and sprit are "not bad" here is unclear, but he does not seem to favor their lynches right now. Although he does express some qualified support for a sabie lynch later on.

It's too soon to make a clear read on newbirdwithteeth. He's certainly come out swinging, which is a good thing. But it's possible that these reads were festering inside him during his brief stay in the grave, so he could have blurted them out regardless of his alignment on Day 2. Definitely not a lynch priority today, but anything else he can say about any of his reads would be helpful. [mention]birdwithteeth11[/mention] what are the pros and cons of lynching each of Creature and Colin?

[Creature]

Epignosis' vote on sprityo should be considered maybe? Or was it a frame job?

[Creature]

sabie wagon is likely all town

[Long Con]

Colin looks bad for reasons that are clearly articulated. Noted. The vote stays on Epi for the time being though.

Quick note, this post was during Night 1, hence the "I'll most likely vote you in the morning". So my vote didn't "stay on Epi" unless you mean that the past will never change and he will always be my Fallout Day 1 vote. And we'll just see about that.

[Creature]

I think sabie12 and ColinIsCool look worse from that, Sloonei as a runner up.

Could be possible one scum was just Oreki/Dragomir though.

[Sloonei]

Colin looks bad for reasons that are clearly articulated. Noted. The vote stays on Epi for the time being though.

Quick note, this post was during Night 1, hence the "I'll most likely vote you in the morning". So my vote didn't "stay on Epi" unless you mean that the past will never change and he will always be my Fallout Day 1 vote. And we'll just see about that.

i'm dumb

[Long Con]

I think Long Con is pretty much town from this.

I was going to put my hand up when you asked people to be Towny, but I didn't want to make a big thing about it.

[Long Con]

I think sabie12 and ColinIsCool look worse from that, Sloonei as a runner up.

Could be possible one scum was just Oreki/Dragomir though.

I'm not yet opposed to a BWT (formerly Oreki) lynch, but I'm not really feeling it today.

[Sloonei]

I would oppose a bwt lynch for ethical reasons today. He's fair game on Day 3 if he becomes a suspect.

[Creature]

I think sabie12 and ColinIsCool look worse from that, Sloonei as a runner up.

Could be possible one scum was just Oreki/Dragomir though.

I'm not yet opposed to a BWT (formerly Oreki) lynch, but I'm not really feeling it today.

I was thinking about doing ColinIsCool

[Long Con]

Also, because I do love it: I appreciate that people think I'd do that to Epi (with the just before he died thing), and I have to agree that the idea of doing it appeals to me greatly, BUT I did not do that this time.

I've been waiting for someone to come forward with the idea that, in my last game, I kept Epi around until the very end before winning as mafia... so killing him early would be an obvious intentional skew of the freshly established meta-data. Right? LOL, but again, it wasn't me. I was hoping that someone was going to come forward with it so I could accuse them of orchestrating the whole thing, but no one did.

[Long Con]

I think sabie12 and ColinIsCool look worse from that, Sloonei as a runner up.

Could be possible one scum was just Oreki/Dragomir though.

I'm not yet opposed to a BWT (formerly Oreki) lynch, but I'm not really feeling it today.

I was thinking about doing ColinIsCool

I'd consider support for that lynch if Sloonei is not a candidate in the final minutes.

[Creature]

Probably should check Diagnosis' ISO first so he can't say we ignored him.

[Long Con]

sabie wagon is likely all town

You believe this because you think she's bad? Or a more complex reason?

[Creature]

Lynch MacDougall and save fun!

[Creature]

Epi probably didn't want Sloonei lynched, so I'll take his word

[VOTE: Colin] aubergine

[Creature]

sabie wagon is likely all town

You believe this because you think she's bad? Or a more complex reason?

doesn't mean she's necessarily scum considering there were only two scum and about four wagons, but she looks bad for it and the wagon on her looks the most trustable.

[Long Con]

Epi probably didn't want Sloonei lynched, so I'll take his word

[VOTE: Colin] aubergine

Ha! That dead fool is watching us right now. What does he know? He didn't have an info role.

[Sloonei]

The Sabie Case

So mac has given up on defending himself or making cases on people he accuses? Or does that not even need to happen anymore because in games I've played lately it seems like people don't have to bother to give reasons anymore. Every time I think mac is bad because he's given up and doesn't care I end up being wrong so I dont know.

As of right now I don't know for sure. I have such a hard time making reads day 1. The exchange between creature and epi was interesting but I thought that about creature and another player before and everyone was like oh that's not weird and they weren't bad so I don't know. Could they be teammates? Maybe but I feel like they wouldn't be that obvious about it.

I feel like Jack and spirityo are usually more quick to go around making accusations and getting people to talk but have been more cautious this day 1. BWT also was quick to say vote epi but didnt and hasnt said much other than that they didnt know if they checked in.

We have yet to hear from oreki colin and dragomir

I dont think I've ever played with TSP before so I dont have anything to go on. Sloonei and LC seem like they're usual selves at this point.
Glorfindel seems to be making an effort to follow Jimmy's guide and be like a super civ. Could be an effort to make sure they seem as civ as possible when maybe they aren't.

Reads expressed in this post:
Mac -
Creature & Epi - "Interesting" "Maybe, but wouldn't be so obvious."
Jack - vague shade
sprit - vague shade
bwt - more substantial shade
oreki, colin, dragomir - "they're absent"
TSP - "He exists."
Sloonei - "His usual self."
LC - "His usual self."
Glorf - arbritrary wifom

This post kind of reminds me of a post sabie made early on in Arrowverse (she was mafia) in which she gave a summary of reads not unlike this. I feel particularly icky about the Glorfindel and Mac reads. She doesn't really arrive at a conclusion on Mac but kind of muses negatively on him. The Glorfindel suspicion feels cherrypicked.

I guess for me my suspicion is towards Jack and spirityo as when civ they usually are more aggressive in scum hunting and posting and this game they seem less so.

I'm sorry I'm not super familiar with glorfindel didnt mean any offense in the accusation just speculating on things. TSP is putting in effort to be involved and producing reads. I'm not suspecting either of them at this time. I dont remember playing with either of them before so by saying I dont have a lot to go on I just meant I dont know their playstyle. They're probably doing better than I am at this point.


Mac has gotten me mislynched day 1 before but he was civ just had the wrong idea about me.

Walks back the Glorfindel suspicion here, and reiterates the Jack and sprit suspicions. Glorfindel highlighted a seeming contradiction between sabie's stance on Jack here vs. her stance on Jack in Arrowverse. But as she was scum there, reading into that is pretty complicated.

I guess for me my suspicion is towards Jack and spirityo as when civ they usually are more aggressive in scum hunting and posting and this game they seem less so.

I'm sorry I'm not super familiar with glorfindel didnt mean any offense in the accusation just speculating on things. TSP is putting in effort to be involved and producing reads. I'm not suspecting either of them at this time. I dont remember playing with either of them before so by saying I dont have a lot to go on I just meant I dont know their playstyle. They're probably doing better than I am at this point.
The natural concern is that sabie's suspects here are easy targets, but that it is harder to pursue that case on a Day 1 like the one we had here. There weren't really any standout suspects except maybe sabie herself.


Mac has gotten me mislynched day 1 before but he was civ just had the wrong idea about me.

If only one of Jack and spirtyo is maf which is it
Make a case
Convince me

What I've found is that when Jack is a civ he goes after people asks questions gets discussion going gets really into it and posts a lot. As a baddie he wasn't like that he was a lot more chill. This game I haven't seen the usual civ Jack so far.


I guess the same could be said of bwt who you have voted for. As he also has not been as active as he was in the previous game where he was civ and has not provided much depth to suspicions and reads thus far this game.

Lumps bwt into the same group with sprit and jack in a conversation with Tony, who was voting for bwt at the time. That final detail is important if we believe this is scum sabie. This looks very opportunistic in that light.

Well out of the options currently being voted for Im more inclined to go with bwt as they have been voting with no explanation and haven't put forth as much effort as they normally do.
Epi could be bad with his hiding behind the video game speak but I always find him so hard to read.

I've said in multiple games that Jack has a different way of posting when good and bad. Other people also have utilized this knowledge of how people act in games to gauge what alignment people might be. Why does that make me bad? I sometimes feel like I must be speaking a different language because I think what I'm saying makes sense and everyone is always like whaaaaaaaa?? Whenever I post.

Voices primary support of the bwt wagon, and then defends her suspicion of Jack. She would follow this up a few minutes later with a vote for Jack who, you might notice, is not birdwithteeth.

Well it's close to end of day so I think my biggest suspicion is on Jack. I think he is not acting his typical civ self and he hasnt been contributing the way he normally does and getting the discussion going. Hes usually really aggressive in finding baddies and I'm just not seeing it this time around.


[VOTE: jack] aubergine

I'd like to know what happened between these two posts. I don't know what the poll looked like. The votes never swayed too heavily in anyone's favor, but sabie's name was on the chopping block most of the day, so her vote would have mattered a lot to her on a self-preservation basis. She ultimately went with Jack and not another name (bwt or sprit) who would have given her a greater chance of not dying. That's a slightly good look, but there's not really enough meat on the bone to say anything more than that.

I appreciate that Sabie has not thrown in the towel on Day 2. She's being bombarded with suspicion and has let us know that her real life schedule is preventing her from being as active as she'd like to be, but she's not letting that stop her from making contributions, and I get a sense of agitated determination in them. This post, for instance:

I'm sorry BWT RIP! I agree this lynch was difficult because I felt I had some town reads but I was unsure about some of the less active players. I felt like it was out of character of Jack and spirityo to not be as involved as they usually are hopefully they'll come in and participate more. I'm still iffy on them. I think the shorter than usual day phase may have also caught some people off guard.
And to answer epis question mac has definitely been wrong about me before.

That isn't helpful. I know the answer to that question. What's more important is this: Is Mac bad here?

1. Yes.
2. No.

I wasn't thinking he was bad just that his suspicion of me is incorrect. I figured he was trying to push me to post reads or something since I only had a couple posts at that point but I suck at trying to make day 1 reads. I at least try to though. Whoever is bad though would just have to plant a seed of doubt about me and I'm a really easy target for a mislynch but any of the people suspecting me could be doing that. In the borderlands game mac was a civ and led a mislynch on me based on him misinterpreting information. Obviously I don't want to continue to be night killed or lynched day 1 or 2 but I also don't want people to not play the game how they want to because they feel bad for me as TSP was suggesting. I just point out that a lot of times people misinterpret or misunderstand me. Epi pointing out that I get killed off quickly so often did make me upset (at the situation) but all I can do is keep trying to get better and not let it bother me. I don't want people feeling bad for me I just want people to take the time to try to understand where I'm coming from or what I'm trying to say. Such as I've been criticized before for putting all my thoughts into one long post but I dont have a computer and I'm typically pretty busy IRL so that's what works for me.
Im at least participating and trying to figure things out as much as I can. It would be nice to hear some thoughts from some of the other people who haven't been around as much or discussed thoughts on the game so far.

She makes sure to stress that Mac is not a suspect and gives off the air of a person who's just tired of being misunderstood. When sabie was cornered in Arrowverse, her response was to attack the player (sprityo) who was hounding her. Her response here has not been that, and it looks more like she's trying to communicate with the players that suspect her.

She's continued to go after sprit but has backed off of Jack a little. That aligns with her general attitude toward them throughout the game: jack has become more involved today while sprit, at the time of sabie's earlier posts, had not.

Her most recent post was a vote for Creature over me:

I'm sorry all I see people are saying I'm a nonpaticipant and I dont mean to be but I have a lot going on. I want to be here for end of day but I can't guarantee I will be because of my work schedule. If I have to put a vote somewhere I feel worse about creature than I do sloonei. Sloonei is putting together cases and provoking conversation. I feel like creature has yet to put forth as much effort into the game while also complaining the game is too boring. If he felt like he wanted to change things or had stronger feelings elsewhere he could have day 1 but didnt. I'm putting my vote there now. [VOTE: creature] aubergine



If my meeting gets out early I will try to be here for end of day if I can. Again I apologize for not being here as much as I could be.

[mention]sabie[/mention], why did you focus primarily on Creature and I here? What do you think of Colin? Why is sprityo not receiving your vote today?

I don't have enough here to say that sabie is firmly a town read, but I do think I am inclined to lean slightly in that direction. Her Day 2 play in particular has felt more like an exasperated townie than the cornered mafia we saw in Arrowverse.