An Australian Country Murder Mystery (Day 4)

[Epignosis]

I'm bored with Jack. [VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

I’m sorry for not keeping you entertained.

Why Tony?

I think he's mafia dude.

Pulling teeth.

Why do you think he’s mafia?

Because he smells like mafia.

[Jackofhearts2005]

This entire game is fucking Candid Camera.

[Epignosis]

This entire game is fucking Candid Camera.

Ouch. I won't fit in the hole.

[Long Con]

I'm bored with Jack. [VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

I’m sorry for not keeping you entertained.

Why Tony?

I think he's mafia dude.

Pulling teeth.

Why do you think he’s mafia?

Because he smells like mafia.

I didn't find his ISO that suspicious.

[Epignosis]

I'm bored with Jack. [VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

I’m sorry for not keeping you entertained.

Why Tony?

I think he's mafia dude.

Pulling teeth.

Why do you think he’s mafia?

Because he smells like mafia.

I didn't find his ISO that suspicious.

I haven't even read it. I'm just fucking with Jack.

[Long Con]

[Epignosis]

From you I think I get that one more than anyone else.

[Long Con]

From you I think I get that one more than anyone else.

Maybe this one is better...

[Epignosis]

Okay, I laughed.

[Sloonei]

Some Tony things:

I haven’t played a game with a setup like this is a while lemme recap for myself. Three bad lynches allowed, find scum within six days.

Why does this post exist? Michelle also called him out for this but my beef is slightly different. It's not that he's doing math, it's that he's putting these words into the thread. They're isolated, not really attached to or inviting in any further discussion. He just plopped some cursory mechanical chatter into the thread and moved on.

His progression on Dom also looks strange. Is strange bad? Let's see.

I don't want to lynch Dom right now. That makes me paranoid.

nutella, you've said that you're good at reading Dom in the past I think. What should I think here?

nutella, you've said that you're good at reading Dom in the past I think. What should I think here?

I think he's town. He's doing his typical thing of gathered reactions to lots of little things.

Okay thanks for your opinion.

anyone want to dissent?

I do not know what the initial stance on Dom is supposed to reflect. Do Tony and Dom have a particular history together where the former tends to suspect the latter? He then calls on nutella to offer her allegedly expert read, indicating that Tony doesn't have a particular history with Dom, but then beckons anyone else to disagree with her. In all of this, Tony has done nothing resembling independent work to read Dom. He has observed Dom's presence in the game and asked a specific player to comment on it, then he has sought dissenting opinions all across Australia.

What is your read on Dom, Tony? Does something stand out about him one way or the other? Why are you so interested in him here?

[Sloonei]

We are playing this game on Australian time, which isn't unfair since the 'stralians usually have to adapt to the Western hemisphere's hijinks around here. But I want to note this just in case anyone's operating under the usual clock procedures. This phase will end while most of us Americans are asleep. That includes myself. I don't know how much I'll be around tonight, so for the moment my Tony vote can be considered potentially final. At the very least, I hope that my questions for/about him can be addressed in some manner.

I do not advocate a Jack lynch today, since he's been our leader for most of the phase. nutella feels like herself, and I've liked the direction of Michelle's play so far. Other than that I don't have any strong reads worth expressing.

[sabie12]

We are playing this game on Australian time, which isn't unfair since the 'stralians usually have to adapt to the Western hemisphere's hijinks around here. But I want to note this just in case anyone's operating under the usual clock procedures. This phase will end while most of us Americans are asleep. That includes myself. I don't know how much I'll be around tonight, so for the moment my Tony vote can be considered potentially final. At the very least, I hope that my questions for/about him can be addressed in some manner.

I do not advocate a Jack lynch today, since he's been our leader for most of the phase. nutella feels like herself, and I've liked the direction of Michelle's play so far. Other than that I don't have any strong reads worth expressing.

Yeah the timing is going to be a little hard
I'll have to get up at like 6 am on a Saturday oh well. You do make some good points on tony. Was there a list of the ISO links on everyone?

[Sloonei]

G-man compiled some ISO links here:

Needing to ISO people resulted in creating this list. You're welcome.


DFaraday
Dom
Epignosis
G-Man
Jackofhearts2005
Lady LambdaDelta
Long Con
Michelle
nutella
Quin
sabie12
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime


I'll post some observations around lunch time.

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] any chance you could toss these up in that there OP?

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]sabie12[/mention]

[mention]Sloonei[/mention]

Ya’ll wanna lynch Epi?

[Epignosis]

Nah.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Nah.

What about Nutella?

Or basically anybody but me and Tony cause I’m pocketed?

[Epignosis]

I don't really care about this right now.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Some Tony things:

I haven’t played a game with a setup like this is a while lemme recap for myself. Three bad lynches allowed, find scum within six days.

Why does this post exist? Michelle also called him out for this but my beef is slightly different. It's not that he's doing math, it's that he's putting these words into the thread. They're isolated, not really attached to or inviting in any further discussion. He just plopped some cursory mechanical chatter into the thread and moved on.

His progression on Dom also looks strange. Is strange bad? Let's see.

I don't want to lynch Dom right now. That makes me paranoid.

nutella, you've said that you're good at reading Dom in the past I think. What should I think here?

nutella, you've said that you're good at reading Dom in the past I think. What should I think here?

I think he's town. He's doing his typical thing of gathered reactions to lots of little things.

Okay thanks for your opinion.

anyone want to dissent?

I do not know what the initial stance on Dom is supposed to reflect. Do Tony and Dom have a particular history together where the former tends to suspect the latter? He then calls on nutella to offer her allegedly expert read, indicating that Tony doesn't have a particular history with Dom, but then beckons anyone else to disagree with her. In all of this, Tony has done nothing resembling independent work to read Dom. He has observed Dom's presence in the game and asked a specific player to comment on it, then he has sought dissenting opinions all across Australia.

What is your read on Dom, Tony? Does something stand out about him one way or the other? Why are you so interested in him here?

1) I wanted to try saying things that make people say things. You pass, Michelle doesn’t. You know why.

2) I tend to scumread Dom early. I’m always wrong. This game I didn’t. For the longest time Jack would always read me the opposite of what I was, and my initial thought when I read Dom and found nothing objectionable was that maybe I’m in the same place.

[TonyStarkPrime]

There is so little to pry on here.
Rainbowish from memory:

Me
Jack
Dom
DF
Sloonei
Sabie
LC
G-Man
——————————
Epi
Michelle
Nutella

[nutella]

Some Tony things:

I haven’t played a game with a setup like this is a while lemme recap for myself. Three bad lynches allowed, find scum within six days.

Why does this post exist? Michelle also called him out for this but my beef is slightly different. It's not that he's doing math, it's that he's putting these words into the thread. They're isolated, not really attached to or inviting in any further discussion. He just plopped some cursory mechanical chatter into the thread and moved on.

His progression on Dom also looks strange. Is strange bad? Let's see.

I don't want to lynch Dom right now. That makes me paranoid.

nutella, you've said that you're good at reading Dom in the past I think. What should I think here?

nutella, you've said that you're good at reading Dom in the past I think. What should I think here?

I think he's town. He's doing his typical thing of gathered reactions to lots of little things.

Okay thanks for your opinion.

anyone want to dissent?

I do not know what the initial stance on Dom is supposed to reflect. Do Tony and Dom have a particular history together where the former tends to suspect the latter? He then calls on nutella to offer her allegedly expert read, indicating that Tony doesn't have a particular history with Dom, but then beckons anyone else to disagree with her. In all of this, Tony has done nothing resembling independent work to read Dom. He has observed Dom's presence in the game and asked a specific player to comment on it, then he has sought dissenting opinions all across Australia.

What is your read on Dom, Tony? Does something stand out about him one way or the other? Why are you so interested in him here?

1) I wanted to try saying things that make people say things. You pass, Michelle doesn’t. You know why.

2) I tend to scumread Dom early. I’m always wrong. This game I didn’t. For the longest time Jack would always read me the opposite of what I was, and my initial thought when I read Dom and found nothing objectionable was that maybe I’m in the same place.

uh. what?

Sloonei's gripe is that you posted unnecessary thoughts. If you were doing that to get reactions or "make people say things" how on earth does his comment "pass" at all

[TonyStarkPrime]

Sigh. Sloonei’s gripe was that my post was unnecessary. I’m not trying to solve. Etc. Michelle’s gripe was that I was counting number of mislynches.

Which of these is a real argument? Which of these is a scum argument?

[nutella]

....I don't get it. Saying a post that was made to generate content was unnecessary can definitely be a scum argument. And I don't get your point about Michelle's comment either.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I don't really care about this right now.

If you’re town, at least care enough to help not lynch the guy who somehow got a third of the posts D1 without even telling a bunch of jokes.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I don’t really wanna lynch Sloonei or Michelle either. It’s possible I’m really pocketed but still.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention]

We need to consolidate.

[TonyStarkPrime]

....I don't get it. Saying a post that was made to generate content was unnecessary can definitely be a scum argument. And I don't get your point about Michelle's comment either.

I think scum tends to take an explosive response because it can generate more discussion and town will tend to take a more genuine line. “This post isn’t solving” is a cop out argument in general, but here I think it functions as a sign that Sloonei doesn’t have an agenda. I also liked Sloonei’s phrasing but I tend not to delve into syntax cause 1) people think it’s stupid and 2) it makes future syntax arguments more WIFOMy.

[TonyStarkPrime]

@TonyStarkPrime

We need to consolidate.

Ehh. I’m waiting for something exciting to happen.

[nutella]

....I don't get it. Saying a post that was made to generate content was unnecessary can definitely be a scum argument. And I don't get your point about Michelle's comment either.

I think scum tends to take an explosive response because it can generate more discussion and town will tend to take a more genuine line. “This post isn’t solving” is a cop out argument in general, but here I think it functions as a sign that Sloonei doesn’t have an agenda. I also liked Sloonei’s phrasing but I tend not to delve into syntax cause 1) people think it’s stupid and 2) it makes future syntax arguments more WIFOMy.

...But pointing out that you made an empty post can and does generate discussion on you? As we are now demonstrating? Lol

[TonyStarkPrime]

....I don't get it. Saying a post that was made to generate content was unnecessary can definitely be a scum argument. And I don't get your point about Michelle's comment either.

I think scum tends to take an explosive response because it can generate more discussion and town will tend to take a more genuine line. “This post isn’t solving” is a cop out argument in general, but here I think it functions as a sign that Sloonei doesn’t have an agenda. I also liked Sloonei’s phrasing but I tend not to delve into syntax cause 1) people think it’s stupid and 2) it makes future syntax arguments more WIFOMy.

...But pointing out that you made an empty post can and does generate discussion on you? As we are now demonstrating? Lol

But like that’s not how I think it gets processed by a townie or a scum member. Scum isn’t going to think a “this post isn’t hunting” argument day 1 will generate discussion. Because it won’t, especially against someone who won’t defend from the accusation directly. This discussion is only tangentially related to that.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’m pretty sure this is solid reasoning. I think on probability people who take lines like Michelle are more likely scum and people who take lines like Sloonei are more likely town.
Disagree? Y/N

[TonyStarkPrime]

Hopefully I’ll be around for an hour ish I will respond to every post within that hour please people talk I am bored

[Jackofhearts2005]

6 am day end is really gonna cramp my style.

[TonyStarkPrime]

6 am day end is really gonna cramp my style.

Wake up

[Epignosis]

I don't really care about this right now.

If you’re town, at least care enough to help not lynch the guy who somehow got a third of the posts D1 without even telling a bunch of jokes.

That wasn't an accomplishment and If you got lynched, I wouldn't be sad.

That said, I won't vote for you.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I don't really care about this right now.

If you’re town, at least care enough to help not lynch the guy who somehow got a third of the posts D1 without even telling a bunch of jokes.

That wasn't an accomplishment and If you got lynched, I wouldn't be sad.

That said, I won't vote for you.

It's a demonstration of my relative wim, which is like



And also I already got a dadgum wolf and can't get anyone to vote for her so come on.

[Epignosis]

Tell me the name of the person you want dead Jack and I will vote.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[Jackofhearts2005]

Tell me the name of the person you want dead Jack and I will vote.

Nutella!

[Epignosis]

Tell me the name of the person you want dead Jack and I will vote.

Nutella!

It is done.

[Sloonei]

....I don't get it. Saying a post that was made to generate content was unnecessary can definitely be a scum argument. And I don't get your point about Michelle's comment either.

I think scum tends to take an explosive response because it can generate more discussion and town will tend to take a more genuine line. “This post isn’t solving” is a cop out argument in general, but here I think it functions as a sign that Sloonei doesn’t have an agenda. I also liked Sloonei’s phrasing but I tend not to delve into syntax cause 1) people think it’s stupid and 2) it makes future syntax arguments more WIFOMy.

People who think syntax doesn’t mean anything are wrong.

[Sloonei]

I’m unconvinced by the things Tony has said in response to me, but I don’t want the discussion to end there.

Long Con and G-man are the other two players I’ve felt directly suspicious of for more than a brief moment this game. I’ve held off on G-man because he hasn’t played in forever and he’s good company. And some of my pings could just be derived from his eagerness to get back in the action.

Long Con has felt a little flat. I may or may not be able to substatntiate that.

[Sloonei]

I think I’d add Epi to my Do Not Lynch list for today. His play feels entirely uncalculated and nonchalant. These are not things I associate with evil epi.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’ve held off on G-man because he hasn’t played in forever and he’s good company. And some of my pings could just be derived from his eagerness to get back in the action.

Same TBH.

[Sloonei]

DF plays that way enough of the time that pinging him to play is fake because you already know from experience that he'll play how he plays pings or not. Filler content not real content. Flush Out Fillers, as they say. Done. "Answered" Wolf motivation: early seemingly useful but no really content.

Long Con’s ISO is a few jokes and some posts shoveling coal in the engine of the Jackwagon, like this one here. If he’s bad, he entered with a forced casual air and then pounced on an obvious and easy bandwagon. But as I type this out I have to ask if I really think LC would kick the game off like that.

[Sloonei]

I gave Michelle a town read because the energy in her posts seemed to be trending in a constructive direction, but I haven’t seen many other opinions on her besides Tony’s failing her for her response to his mechanic chatter. How do we read her?

[Sloonei]

nah, jack is fair dinkum right now.

google said you think Jack is honest, is that correct?

nah yeah he's a good bloke i reckon

Why do you reckon that, esteemed Australian Quin? Who do you reckon ain’t such good blokes?

[DFaraday]

After their most recent exchange I'm feeling like TSP and Nutella are both town. At the very least, I doubt they're teammates because their lengthy misunderstanding discussion felt too meandering and inconsequential to be a planned interaction.

[Jackofhearts2005]

After their most recent exchange I'm feeling like TSP and Nutella are both town. At the very least, I doubt they're teammates because their lengthy misunderstanding discussion felt too meandering and inconsequential to be a planned interaction.

You should stop voting for me.

[Jackofhearts2005]

If I get lynched with only 7 of the 13 players voting and I have about a third of the posts, this doesn’t count against my record. There’s only so much I can do.

Remember my reads if I die and especially remember that Nutella is a wolf.

Good night.

[DFaraday]

After their most recent exchange I'm feeling like TSP and Nutella are both town. At the very least, I doubt they're teammates because their lengthy misunderstanding discussion felt too meandering and inconsequential to be a planned interaction.

You should stop voting for me.

But you're unlynchable, so it won't matter anyway.

I meant to respond earlier to your post asking us for reasons for voting you. I felt I was pretty clear in my earlier post, but to reiterate I think it's entirely conceivable that scum could try to instigate a low-risk lynch on someone like me in order to get a numbers advantage early, since in a game like this if I hang around until Day 4 or 5 like usual I could be a difference maker. I don't know for sure that's what you were doing, but you seemed to dismiss the possibility without any consideration, which was more of a bad look imo.

I don't find Nutella suspicious, so I don't plan on voting her. If you have a good case for someone else I'd be willing to listen.