All My Circuits the Mafia Game [GAME OVER]

[Rej]

waiting for the flip like

[Sloonei]

waiting for the flip like

[TonyStarkPrime]

It’s not vaguely anti-town, it just is anti-town, flat out.

Hello I disagree. I’m willing to have this discussion with you.
Can you point me to where you laid out your argument?

Not calling votes makes it harder for town to keep track of who is being voted by whom and when, which is one of the few things that is actually tangibly quantifiable helpful for town wrt catching mafia. Hiding your votes is strictly a better environment for scum than for town.

Okay

[novaselinenever]

[Sloonei]

Day 1

[Scene: Monique and Sleazy Martinez on a public boardwalk, arms linked. Calculon skateboards in radically]

Calculon: Hello dudes. You think this computes?

Sleazy: Calculon! But I thought you were...

Calculon: Metric? Think again, bozo.

Monique: (Flushed) Calculon... I didn't know you were so cool!

[End Scene]

-------------------------------------------------------------------

As soon as the camera stopped rolling, the cast and crew turned on each other. The show was busted, everyone knew it. As always, Calculon was the center of attention.

"This scene is terrible! I won't have it!"

The director had given up trying to get through to his star. He simply stared straight ahead. But Calculon's human co-star was not so defeated. They played friends on screen, but the tension between these two thespians was beyond repair.

This incident would be the last straw. Eight seasons of petty frustrations boiled over, and after a length shouting match it was inevitable that one of them would need to be written out of the show. It was an easy choice for the studio heads.

Long Con has been lynched. He was Human Friend, civilian cop.

It is Night 1. You have roughly 22 hours to submit your night actions (Night will end at 7 PM EST tomorrow).

[sig]

Holy shit gotta lynch ET tomorrow for sure

[sig]

Or not but like check out the roles really quick and lets see if everyone else sees what I'm seeing. You see?

[Epignosis]

[sig]

[novaselinenever]

[Sloonei]

I have received a question that I am answering here: As long as Sleazy Martinez is alive, that role is responsible for resolving ties.

[Epignosis]

Calculon
The star of the show, Calculon is virtually untouchable on set. He will survive the first fatal action against him, whether via a lynch or a nightkill. *(Secrets)*

Doubtful.

Sleazy Martinez
Calculon’s identical twin. If a tie occurs, the town will look to Calculon for a decision but Sleazy will interfere, allowing him to decide which player is lynched. *(Secrets)*

Possible

Priest
*(Secrets)*

Possible, if...

Bender
TV’s coolest robot. Bender is allegedly a terrible influence on impressionable youth, but he’s just so darn cool. His influence spreads everywhere. Twice during the game, Bender can cast two votes in the poll. He may cast two votes for the same player, or he may cast votes on two separate players. He’s Bender, baby. In addition, Bender can steal the ability of player he votes for once during the game. He will be granted access to that player’s night abilities the following night.

Possible.

F.A.R.T.
Fathers Against Rude Television takes a strong stance against indecent content on the boob-tube. Once during the game, F.A.R.T may seek to rid a player’s smut from the game by stripping them of their right to vote the following day phase. And if that doesn’t work, there’s always the option of resorting to violence: four times during the game, the FARTers can rough a player up at night, preventing them from performing their night action that phase.

The wording here says "following day phase," implying that this must be used as a Night action. As such, this couldn't be in play Day 1.

++++

It looks like Bender got a little too trigger happy Day 1 and the twin had to make a decision.

Given Sloonei's reputation for punctuality and the fact that the host post was three hours later than the poll's deadline, I'd say this was the most likely scenario.

Very unfortunate.

[sig]

So this is where I'm at, ET is the Network President who starts each phase with minus 1 vote. Ergo it was a 3 way tie and sleazy decided on LC over the other two.

Now there could've been other vote manipulation that went on, but I find it very unlikely that any civ would choice to do that D1.

linki: missed one Epi.

[Epignosis]

Also, Protip: When I have a role in charge of breaking ties (and I almost always do, as that prevents me from having to interfere as a Host), I always ask for a list Day 0 of most suspicious to least suspicious. Update as many times as desired. If the tiebreaker dies, the final list submitted is permanent.

[sig]

Network President

The Network President has final say over all things, and nobody can stop him. Twice during the game, the Network President can modify the mafia team kill to be unblockabkle. As long as the Execubots remain alive, the President begins each Day with -1 vote and his alignment cannot be checked (he will be ID’d as town). *(Secrets)*

[Epignosis]

So this is where I'm at, ET is the Network President who starts each phase with minus 1 vote. Ergo it was a 3 way tie and sleazy decided on LC over the other two.

Now there could've been other vote manipulation that went on, but I find it very unlikely that any civ would choice to do that D1.

linki: missed one Epi.

I did.

That makes more sense.

And makes me more encouraged that Bender has more restraint.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Therealet is either hypnotoad or calculon or one of the secret roles, yeah? So probably don’t want to take them to LYLO, but uh, definitely not killing them tomorrow

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Oh damn I missed that one.

Ok, so still a 2/4 chance theyre town

[Epignosis]

Therealet is either hypnotoad or calculon or one of the secret roles, yeah? So probably don’t want to take them to LYLO, but uh, definitely not killing them tomorrow

Eh?

[sig]

Therealet is either hypnotoad or calculon or one of the secret roles, yeah? So probably don’t want to take them to LYLO, but uh, definitely not killing them tomorrow

I'd assume if Calculon survives the first attempt on him then no action would occur? It wouldn't make much sense for it to just be passed over and another player to get lynched.

Now it could be hypnotoad, but I've always been of the mindset that lynching and Independent early game is the best way to deal with them. Once you get further in you can't afford to waste a day on someone who's not mafia so they're best dealt with quickly. Basically minus Bender he's probably mafia.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I missed bender and network executive at first glance, I’m not as literate as I want to be ok

[Epignosis]

I'll tell you why therealet also isn't a civilian.

This was his last post made at 1:00 am EST this morning. It was a tantrum railing against the very foundation of the institution of Mafia:

i dont think you get how absolutely fucking frustrating and wim killing it is to have the most active players other than me pick on every fucking word i say, no matter what that is

you all have such fucking awful tunnel vision that im genuinely completely astounded

therealet did absolutely nothing else the rest of the phase. No concern with finding mafia. No concern with being lynched (!).

"genuinely completely astounded"

And most of you will know what I think of that right there.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Therealet is either hypnotoad or calculon or one of the secret roles, yeah? So probably don’t want to take them to LYLO, but uh, definitely not killing them tomorrow

I'd assume if Calculon survives the first attempt on him then no action would occur? It wouldn't make much sense for it to just be passed over and another player to get lynched.

Now it could be hypnotoad, but I've always been of the mindset that lynching and Independent early game is the best way to deal with them. Once you get further in you can't afford to waste a day on someone who's not mafia so they're best dealt with quickly. Basically minus Bender he's probably mafia.

My experience with similar roles (with the caveat that it’s on other sites) is that it would pass to the next player in line to be TKed.

I agree on independents tho, I’m very pro-getting rid of them early.

[novaselinenever]

Scenario A - ET is Network President and since they start at -1 vote, it was a 4-way tie between Creature, LC, ET and TSP. Sleazy was the tie-breaker.

Scenario B - Bender placed a vote on LC, and it was a tie between LC and ET. Sleazy was the tie-breaker.

There are also a few secrets roles and the lynchproof one. I believe the lynchproof one would result in a failed lynch rather than the lynch going through to someone with less vote though.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Probably actually is best to kill them tho, roughly 2/4 chance to hit not-town is pretty solid

[novaselinenever]

Forgot about a third one, ET being the Network President and Bender voting LC. That would make it a no tie actually and LC gets lynched with 3 votes.

With the phase ending being a bit late, I think this one is unlikely 'cause no waiting for Sleazy.

[novaselinenever]

So this is where I'm at, ET is the Network President who starts each phase with minus 1 vote. Ergo it was a 3 way tie and sleazy decided on LC over the other two.

Now there could've been other vote manipulation that went on, but I find it very unlikely that any civ would choice to do that D1.

linki: missed one Epi.

4 way tie. LC, ET, Creature and TSP no?

[novaselinenever]

This should be treated as the first part of D2, that way we get a 48 hours day phase

[TonyStarkPrime]

Someone make me a case why ET isn’t the right lynch.

I think broadly two cases exist.

[sig]

So this is where I'm at, ET is the Network President who starts each phase with minus 1 vote. Ergo it was a 3 way tie and sleazy decided on LC over the other two.

Now there could've been other vote manipulation that went on, but I find it very unlikely that any civ would choice to do that D1.

linki: missed one Epi.

4 way tie. LC, ET, Creature and TSP no?

Yea your right, I can't count.

[novaselinenever]

Someone make me a case why ET isn’t the right lynch.

I think broadly two cases exist.

Is he didn't vote to save himself one? He didn't even show up lol.

[novaselinenever]

The frustration was pretty NAI, the unvote from Dom and remark about his wagon not taking off was pretty scum though.

[novaselinenever]

How many baddies do you think received votes D1?

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think that no one voted to save him or at least make it less clear what had happened is a part of a case.

[TonyStarkPrime]

How many baddies do you think received votes D1?

1

[Rej]

Day 1

[Scene: Monique and Sleazy Martinez on a public boardwalk, arms linked. Calculon skateboards in radically]

Calculon: Hello dudes. You think this computes?

Sleazy: Calculon! But I thought you were...

Calculon: Metric? Think again, bozo.

Monique: (Flushed) Calculon... I didn't know you were so cool!

[End Scene]

-------------------------------------------------------------------

As soon as the camera stopped rolling, the cast and crew turned on each other. The show was busted, everyone knew it. As always, Calculon was the center of attention.

"This scene is terrible! I won't have it!"

The director had given up trying to get through to his star. He simply stared straight ahead. But Calculon's human co-star was not so defeated. They played friends on screen, but the tension between these two thespians was beyond repair.

This incident would be the last straw. Eight seasons of petty frustrations boiled over, and after a length shouting match it was inevitable that one of them would need to be written out of the show. It was an easy choice for the studio heads.

Long Con has been lynched. He was Human Friend, civilian cop.

It is Night 1. You have roughly 22 hours to submit your night actions (Night will end at 7 PM EST tomorrow).

[therealet]

you all are missing a glaring situation here about my possible role
i expected to be hanged no matter what so i gave up trying

[therealet]

The frustration was pretty NAI, the unvote from Dom and remark about his wagon not taking off was pretty scum though.

theres four situations
a. people are all for the lynch
b. people are against it
c. both a and b
d. nobody gives a shit

when its D im inclined to believe im wrong in my read

[therealet]

before you read my tone now
dont get me wrong i am still violently angry, im trying not to have an aneurysm tho

[Epignosis]

before you read my tone now
dont get me wrong i am still violently angry, im trying not to have an aneurysm tho

Why are you violently angry?

[therealet]

because i got thrown to the wayside for the entire day

[Dom]

i dont think you get how absolutely fucking frustrating and wim killing it is to have the most active players other than me pick on every fucking word i say, no matter what that is

you all have such fucking awful tunnel vision that im genuinely completely astounded

Dude.
Don't know what to tell you. You post a lot of bullshit.
Post better shit or admit you're bad.

No, I think Dom is scummy because of reasons already mentioned, but Et’s vote is worse in and of itself. That plus Epi’s remark on et kind of adds up in that uncertainty. The vote from et felt really opportunistic, it feels like he jumped on voting dom by using my post more than him having an actual reasoning, et was at 2 votes and Dom was sitting at 2, et just made him top lynch candidate with that vote.

Point is if Dom flips green then Et is probably scum. Weird dichotomy but I think at least one of them is scum. I am aware I’m wrong on one of them but I don’t know who.

bruh...
How do you know you're wrong about one of us?

Because you’re both scummy but you can’t be both scum.

Or.... you're scum and know that only one of us is too...
and it sure as shit ain't me.

Thinking about moving my vote, so I vote with players I townread.

The options here are:

- Dom
- therealet

I wish I had more options for the sake of PoE.
If I would heat on a civ wagon from my own PoV then I have a poor arsenal of choice to work with.

If I reckon correctly btw, then Dom was also a popular candidate to leave the game early? Atleast in the few games I played with him.

Another option would be voting Long Con and testing out the credibility of novas SRs. It could hurt town tho since Creature has a vote on LC.
I know that novas likes staging things and preparing mislynches one or two cycles ahead when a wolf.

Only neg read I personally agree 100%ly with novas could be sig. Hmmmmmmmmmm

Also I just woke up and had a shower and it's already evening in germany lmao.

This is a bad post.

I think I’m just gonna hard align with LC/Dom/sprityo and pretend it’s because I have super strong town reads on them.

@Dom
@Long Con
@sprityo

Welcome to the crew. We shall call ourselves...the circle of literacy.

what a fucking crew.

I missed bender and network executive at first glance, I’m not as literate as I want to be ok

Oh you conveniently forgot the baddie role you totally don't have?

[therealet]

i was wolfread off a tinfoil and someone with tunnel vision figuring out how scum!me can make a post and turning everything i say against me
and you want to call me bad

[Epignosis]

i was wolfread off a tinfoil and someone with tunnel vision figuring out how scum!me can make a post and turning everything i say against me
and you want to call me bad

Who has tunnel vision?

[Dom]

i was wolfread off a tinfoil and someone with tunnel vision figuring out how scum!me can make a post and turning everything i say against me
and you want to call me bad

you've heard of player salad
now here's JARGON SALAD !

[therealet]

i was wolfread off a tinfoil and someone with tunnel vision figuring out how scum!me can make a post and turning everything i say against me
and you want to call me bad

you've heard of player salad
now here's JARGON SALAD !

youre doing nothing but proving my point

[Epignosis]

you all are missing a glaring situation here about my possible role
i expected to be hanged no matter what so i gave up trying

We're missing a glaring situation about your possible role?

Or your actual role?

That wording.

But okay.

Since you have declared that all of us are missing a glaring situation, I will painstakingly go through every situation imaginable, omitting instances in which "secrets" are involved since that could be anything and doesn't constitute a "glaring situation."

1. Calculon

The star of the show, Calculon is virtually untouchable on set. He will survive the first fatal action against him, whether via a lynch or a nightkill. *(Secrets)*

In my experience, "survive" means no death happens. If Calculon got Night killed, the mafia faction would not get to pick another target. It stands to reason that if Calculon got lynched (for the first time, not having been a Night kill target previously), there would be no lynch.

We didn't have a "no lynch." We had a cop lynch.

2. Sleazy Martinez

Calculon’s identical twin. If a tie occurs, the town will look to Calculon for a decision but Sleazy will interfere, allowing him to decide which player is lynched. *(Secrets)*

Given the close spread of the votes and the delay in the post, I am inclined to believe that Martinez had a hand in the result. This only happens if there's a tie.

You are not Sleazy Martinez, because you would not know how you survived having three votes (at least not enough to call it a "glaring situation").

3. Bender

TV’s coolest robot. Bender is allegedly a terrible influence on impressionable youth, but he’s just so darn cool. His influence spreads everywhere. Twice during the game, Bender can cast two votes in the poll. He may cast two votes for the same player, or he may cast votes on two separate players. He’s Bender, baby. In addition, Bender can steal the ability of player he votes for once during the game. He will be granted access to that player’s night abilities the following night.

Bender influencing the votes would mean that Bender's action is available during the Day phase, which is unusual but not unheard of.

I would be surprised if Bender used extra votes during the least informed juncture.

You are not Bender, because you didn't even vote to save yourself the ordinary way.

4. Network President

The Network President has final say over all things, and nobody can stop him. Twice during the game, the Network President can modify the mafia team kill to be unblockabkle. As long as the Execubots remain alive, the President begins each Day with -1 vote and his alignment cannot be checked (he will be ID’d as town). *(Secrets)*

Someone with three votes got lynched to someone who had two votes. That's what happened. This is the most glaring situation.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

i dont think you get how absolutely fucking frustrating and wim killing it is to have the most active players other than me pick on every fucking word i say, no matter what that is

you all have such fucking awful tunnel vision that im genuinely completely astounded

Dude.
Don't know what to tell you. You post a lot of bullshit.
Post better shit or admit you're bad.

No, I think Dom is scummy because of reasons already mentioned, but Et’s vote is worse in and of itself. That plus Epi’s remark on et kind of adds up in that uncertainty. The vote from et felt really opportunistic, it feels like he jumped on voting dom by using my post more than him having an actual reasoning, et was at 2 votes and Dom was sitting at 2, et just made him top lynch candidate with that vote.

Point is if Dom flips green then Et is probably scum. Weird dichotomy but I think at least one of them is scum. I am aware I’m wrong on one of them but I don’t know who.

bruh...
How do you know you're wrong about one of us?

Because you’re both scummy but you can’t be both scum.

Or.... you're scum and know that only one of us is too...
and it sure as shit ain't me.

Thinking about moving my vote, so I vote with players I townread.

The options here are:

- Dom
- therealet

I wish I had more options for the sake of PoE.
If I would heat on a civ wagon from my own PoV then I have a poor arsenal of choice to work with.

If I reckon correctly btw, then Dom was also a popular candidate to leave the game early? Atleast in the few games I played with him.

Another option would be voting Long Con and testing out the credibility of novas SRs. It could hurt town tho since Creature has a vote on LC.
I know that novas likes staging things and preparing mislynches one or two cycles ahead when a wolf.

Only neg read I personally agree 100%ly with novas could be sig. Hmmmmmmmmmm

Also I just woke up and had a shower and it's already evening in germany lmao.

This is a bad post.

I think I’m just gonna hard align with LC/Dom/sprityo and pretend it’s because I have super strong town reads on them.

@Dom
@Long Con
@sprityo

Welcome to the crew. We shall call ourselves...the circle of literacy.

what a fucking crew.

I missed bender and network executive at first glance, I’m not as literate as I want to be ok

Oh you conveniently forgot the baddie role you totally don't have?

If I had that role I probably wouldn’t forget it existed lolol

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

i was wolfread off a tinfoil and someone with tunnel vision figuring out how scum!me can make a post and turning everything i say against me
and you want to call me bad

you've heard of player salad
now here's JARGON SALAD !

<3

[therealet]

Spoiler: show

you all are missing a glaring situation here about my possible role
i expected to be hanged no matter what so i gave up trying

We're missing a glaring situation about your possible role?

Or your actual role?

That wording.

But okay.

Since you have declared that all of us are missing a glaring situation, I will painstakingly go through every situation imaginable, omitting instances in which "secrets" are involved since that could be anything and doesn't constitute a "glaring situation."

1. Calculon

The star of the show, Calculon is virtually untouchable on set. He will survive the first fatal action against him, whether via a lynch or a nightkill. *(Secrets)*

In my experience, "survive" means no death happens. If Calculon got Night killed, the mafia faction would not get to pick another target. It stands to reason that if Calculon got lynched (for the first time, not having been a Night kill target previously), there would be no lynch.

We didn't have a "no lynch." We had a cop lynch.

2. Sleazy Martinez

Calculon’s identical twin. If a tie occurs, the town will look to Calculon for a decision but Sleazy will interfere, allowing him to decide which player is lynched. *(Secrets)*

Given the close spread of the votes and the delay in the post, I am inclined to believe that Martinez had a hand in the result. This only happens if there's a tie.

You are not Sleazy Martinez, because you would not know how you survived having three votes (at least not enough to call it a "glaring situation").

3. Bender

TV’s coolest robot. Bender is allegedly a terrible influence on impressionable youth, but he’s just so darn cool. His influence spreads everywhere. Twice during the game, Bender can cast two votes in the poll. He may cast two votes for the same player, or he may cast votes on two separate players. He’s Bender, baby. In addition, Bender can steal the ability of player he votes for once during the game. He will be granted access to that player’s night abilities the following night.

Bender influencing the votes would mean that Bender's action is available during the Day phase, which is unusual but not unheard of.

I would be surprised if Bender used extra votes during the least informed juncture.

You are not Bender, because you didn't even vote to save yourself the ordinary way.

4. Network President

The Network President has final say over all things, and nobody can stop him. Twice during the game, the Network President can modify the mafia team kill to be unblockabkle. As long as the Execubots remain alive, the President begins each Day with -1 vote and his alignment cannot be checked (he will be ID’d as town). *(Secrets)*

Someone with three votes got lynched to someone who had two votes. That's what happened. This is the most glaring situation.

well 'that wording' is me loosely treading the line of rule breaking

yall need to spoiler massive walls dawg