Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]

Would you like to see a hammer lynch tomorrow?

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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 3]

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I'd love more from Tranq.
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Tranq wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:29 am I agree with S~V~S on G-Man.
I agree with Dom on Turnip Head.
I agree with sig on MacDougall.
I agree with Epignosis on Jackofhearts2005.
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I truly do not know how you agree with sig on Mac and Epignosis on Jack tbh
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And I can't explain why
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MacDougall wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:09 pm @MacDougall talk about players who aren’t voting for/heavily suspecting you. Who are your town reads? Is there anyone you think isn’t getting enough attention?
A great deal of people. The constant focus on myself (and now Sig) is very much allowing for a game environment where people who are absolutely failing in their basic civilian duty, or not living up to their usual standards are receiving little to no pressure. I have reservations about all the below;

Epignosis - Does not appear to be earnestly attempting to achieve a civilian wincon.
ColinIsCool - Only appears to be trying when there is pressure on him.
Michelle - Does not match her meta. Hasn't helped the civ cause really at all.
speedchuck - Does not appear to be the same speedchuck that I am used to seeing.
sprityo - Appears to be totally laying low outside of intermittently FPS reading me scum.
Tranq - Has literally made 5 posts or something.
Epi - Fuckin this is half the time Epi. Which is obnoxious but idk how to read it.
Colin - I agree there.
Michelle - I agree with you on D3 Michelle but she thought she was going on a trip and then it got cancelled so that might have something to do with it. See how this progresses.
Speed - I’d scumread prefather Speed in a heartbeat for this. Not sure how much grace should be extended.
Sprityo - Again, travel plans. Again, a null read.
Tranq - I’m less forgiving here. Like Colin, I don’t see the excuse.
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I agree with Mac on Colin?
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Lest I encourage bad behavior, I want to point out that Dom gets more emotional as a townie and I need some smart sounding reads right now for my own ego.
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:05 pm Lest I encourage bad behavior, I want to point out that Dom gets more emotional as a townie and I need some smart sounding reads right now for my own ego.
I hate to tell you that this isn't true.


But he's saying what my point against Colin has been from day 1. Colin's participation only increases when his team tells him he's in hot water.
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Epignosis wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:25 pm
Epignosis wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:21 pm
Epignosis wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:13 pm Epignosis - Does not appear to be earnestly attempting to achieve a civilian wincon.
Go on.
I have yet to see you take control of the game in the way that I am used to. I have seen the same tone that I am used to but not the same impact.
Not going to happen. I'm here maybe a couple of hours in the evening. I work two jobs and have three kids. Games on the Internet that don't make me any cash draw the short straw.
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Dom wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:08 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:05 pm Lest I encourage bad behavior, I want to point out that Dom gets more emotional as a townie and I need some smart sounding reads right now for my own ego.
I hate to tell you that this isn't true.


But he's saying what my point against Colin has been from day 1. Colin's participation only increases when his team tells him he's in hot water.
I have a sample size of three. :noble:
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:shrug:

I feel compelled to tell you that I am a pisces sun, scorpio rising, libra moon-- i am an emotional mess.
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Dom wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:08 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:05 pm Lest I encourage bad behavior, I want to point out that Dom gets more emotional as a townie and I need some smart sounding reads right now for my own ego.
I hate to tell you that this isn't true.


But he's saying what my point against Colin has been from day 1. Colin's participation only increases when his team tells him he's in hot water.
It does look that way. I wouldn't go as far as to state it as fact though. He could just be checking in and scanning for mentions of his name as a townie. I think everyone is guilty of that from time to time. But it is scummy.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:21 pm Kind of hilarious that if the sig thing proves accurate, it actually would increase the chances of a mafia Mac flip.
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:20 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:21 pm Kind of hilarious that if the sig thing proves accurate, it actually would increase the chances of a mafia Mac flip.
Lol right?
Hilarious in a "I wanna die" kinda way yeah.
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Mac why did you vote for yourself?
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Dom wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:27 pm Mac why did you vote for yourself?
I was in a weird frame of mind somewhere between frustrated and amused and it seemed like a good idea.
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Well the real world sucks a bit so far tonight, how's mafia going?
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I want to vote tranq but then I also think Mac and Jay are above rand to be scum so....that's pretty much how this game has gone though
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:27 pm I want to vote tranq but then I also think Mac and Jay are above rand to be scum so....that's pretty much how this game has gone though
I'm gonna survive to endgame, you better get used to it.
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If you survive to end game wtf are we even doing here
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I will literally riot
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With pots and pans and everything.
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:29 pm If you survive to end game wtf are we even doing here
I am town and each day that I am not lynched it will become more obvious.
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I am a sorcerer and each day I say “Abrica-fucking-dabra, Kalamazoo, I’m gonna make a rabbit out of you!” and nothing happens it will become more obvious.
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:45 pm I am a sorcerer and each day I say “Abrica-fucking-dabra, Kalamazoo, I’m gonna make a rabbit out of you!” and nothing happens it will become more obvious.
Really? That's neat.
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MacDougall wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:49 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:45 pm I am a sorcerer and each day I say “Abrica-fucking-dabra, Kalamazoo, I’m gonna make a rabbit out of you!” and nothing happens it will become more obvious.
Really? That's neat.
Really cool. Goes nowhere
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OOooooOOOooOOooo HEAR MY GHOSTLY WAILING ooOOOOOOOOoooOooo

I'm not sure I will be able to post my last post before this day ends.
But I just wanted to show how Sig is still 100 % mafia. OoooOOooo


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sig wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:02 pmAlso trying to say I knew since I was on team is a cornering move especially in a game with no infodumping. :shrug:
sig wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:09 pmNot to mention again, how many info roles and items are there?
Sigster, you say: "Remember this could just be an info role or item that I can't talk about!"
sig wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:24 pm For my "slip" I mean really have the people voting for that never played with me?

That was at least my third off the wall theory of the game so far at least do me the honor of building a real case before mislynching me.
At the same time you say: "Remember that I just come up with wild theories out of nothing! This is normal!"

Which one is it? Oh yeah, neither. You can't have it both ways. These are desperate excuses and not genuine.


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sig wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:18 pmI Literally Don't even see what would be considered a slip here or in the below post?

There was no kill, as soon as this happened multiple players whom are most likely on Anti-MOnitor started going after Mac. Without even reasoning I gave, which is amazing best reasoning ever. One being Sprityo who has high teammate compatibility.
Don't know why this is off topic. Probably a mistake?
What you say is incorrect. Who are these "multiple players most likely on the Anti-Monitor team who went after Mac?" Radish didn't at all. Sabie put a weak ass vote on him, sheeping others. Sprit said he didn't suspect Mac but wanted to vote him anyway.

The one going hard for Mac D2 was you yourself.

And if these were so numerous and obvious, why did you/are you not going after THEM? You've only been interested in Mac and his team, and every add on to finding teammates to the Anti-monitor's team has been "Oh yeah, sure."


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Exhibit C
sig wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:35 pm[Nanook 1.0] reacted really bad, so assuming he'd have flipped mafia then Radish would've been a teammate based off Nanook's overreaction.
Except this was not what you said when I asked you directly about it. When I asked you on D1, you said that Nanook was an independent read from Radish. That they could be teammates, but not necessarily. If what you describe above was what you actually thought, then there would be no reason for you not to vote the Radish wagon D1 considering he had an actual wagon and Nanook didn't.

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Exhibit D
sig wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:39 pm Worst case Mac isn't mafia we have one mislynch.

BUT say we don't lynch him and let him keep rolling along, they'll keep killing civs and eventually we won't be able to win at all. This is when we still have a margin of error.

More importantly there are 2 roles Sprityo has at this point. If Mac isn't mafia (Very slim chance) Then Sprityo is one of the last members of Anti-Monitors. Potentially last since I still think it's possible Dizzy was mafia.
Mac accused G-Man of TMI-ing that I was town. But this is what an actual TMI look like. Sig has been pretending to think I could be scum (even though it's glaringly obvious I'm not, and he's just been ignoring all evidence to that.) Here he says he thinks I could still be mafia and at the same time warns agains that Mac's team will "keep killing civs" (me) to scare us into voting him thus taking the pressure off his own team.

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To this I say:

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I'll be sniping this whole team as long as I have my ghost voice. And I still have it.

Unless, of course, a scum on the other team flips. Then I will use my energy to snipe them instead. They are bigger right now after all. But I would need a lead.


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sprityo wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:02 pm haha okay guys, jokes over

time to lynch mac

come on :suspish:
This won't get you any extra points once Mac flips, you know.

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What if Dizzy's ghost was possessed by someone else tho
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Fine I give in to the fun aunt

Somewhat begrudgingly
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(That’s calling a sig vote ftr)
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All right, I'm here, and I'm going to power through. I am at the section where sig gets...ahem...ghosted?
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Has sig responded to any of that?
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Never mind. I read everything anyway.
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MacDougall wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:41 pm Curious about when TSP voted for me? I was under the impression he wanted to lynch ... not me? And I missed where he explained placing a vote there.
A few hours before this post — when Sig overtook you. I want to lynch not you. But also not Sig.
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Epignosis wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:28 pm Why is everybody up sig's ass? Holy shit.
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Dom wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:44 pm Anyone wanna talk about Tony?
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:17 am
MacDougall wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:41 pm Curious about when TSP voted for me? I was under the impression he wanted to lynch ... not me? And I missed where he explained placing a vote there.
A few hours before this post — when Sig overtook you. I want to lynch not you. But also not Sig.
So you put your vote on me over 24 hours before EOD to stop sig from steamrolling to the lead but you don't want to lynch me though?

Seems a little bit strange to me.
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[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention]

Give me some reads that aren’t Sig?
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MacDougall wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:20 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:17 am
MacDougall wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:41 pm Curious about when TSP voted for me? I was under the impression he wanted to lynch ... not me? And I missed where he explained placing a vote there.
A few hours before this post — when Sig overtook you. I want to lynch not you. But also not Sig.
So you put your vote on me over 24 hours before EOD to stop sig from steamrolling to the lead but you don't want to lynch me though?

Seems a little bit strange to me.
It’s about momentum — and making a statement.

Sig lynch bad because Sig almost always on Team B AND I don’t even believe that.
Mac lynch bad because if Mac is scum then Mac is scum then what.
Both are bad lynches, but furthermore:

If Sig is bad, Mac is probably always bad. So lynch Mac first.
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(also I’ll never admit this but I may have lost track of when EOD was)
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 3]

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:25 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:20 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:17 am
MacDougall wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:41 pm Curious about when TSP voted for me? I was under the impression he wanted to lynch ... not me? And I missed where he explained placing a vote there.
A few hours before this post — when Sig overtook you. I want to lynch not you. But also not Sig.
So you put your vote on me over 24 hours before EOD to stop sig from steamrolling to the lead but you don't want to lynch me though?

Seems a little bit strange to me.
It’s about momentum — and making a statement.

Sig lynch bad because Sig almost always on Team B AND I don’t even believe that.
Mac lynch bad because if Mac is scum then Mac is scum then what.
Both are bad lynches, but furthermore:

If Sig is bad, Mac is probably always bad. So lynch Mac first.
Both are bad lynches, but you voted for me instead of attempting to push 20+ other options?
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 3]

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:25 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:20 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:17 am
MacDougall wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:41 pm Curious about when TSP voted for me? I was under the impression he wanted to lynch ... not me? And I missed where he explained placing a vote there.
A few hours before this post — when Sig overtook you. I want to lynch not you. But also not Sig.
So you put your vote on me over 24 hours before EOD to stop sig from steamrolling to the lead but you don't want to lynch me though?

Seems a little bit strange to me.
It’s about momentum — and making a statement.

Sig lynch bad because Sig almost always on Team B AND I don’t even believe that.
Mac lynch bad because if Mac is scum then Mac is scum then what.
Both are bad lynches, but furthermore:

If Sig is bad, Mac is probably always bad. So lynch Mac first.
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 3]

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MacDougall wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:27 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:25 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:20 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:17 am
MacDougall wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:41 pm Curious about when TSP voted for me? I was under the impression he wanted to lynch ... not me? And I missed where he explained placing a vote there.
A few hours before this post — when Sig overtook you. I want to lynch not you. But also not Sig.
So you put your vote on me over 24 hours before EOD to stop sig from steamrolling to the lead but you don't want to lynch me though?

Seems a little bit strange to me.
It’s about momentum — and making a statement.

Sig lynch bad because Sig almost always on Team B AND I don’t even believe that.
Mac lynch bad because if Mac is scum then Mac is scum then what.
Both are bad lynches, but furthermore:

If Sig is bad, Mac is probably always bad. So lynch Mac first.
Both are bad lynches, but you voted for me instead of attempting to push 20+ other options?
I have been attempting to push 20+ other options. It hasn’t worked.
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 3]

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The way I am reading it is that TSP is attempting to use some sort of probability to justify his vote as opposed to actually taking personal accountability for a read, which is a scum mentality generally.
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 3]

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:34 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:27 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:25 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:20 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:17 am
MacDougall wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:41 pm Curious about when TSP voted for me? I was under the impression he wanted to lynch ... not me? And I missed where he explained placing a vote there.
A few hours before this post — when Sig overtook you. I want to lynch not you. But also not Sig.
So you put your vote on me over 24 hours before EOD to stop sig from steamrolling to the lead but you don't want to lynch me though?

Seems a little bit strange to me.
It’s about momentum — and making a statement.

Sig lynch bad because Sig almost always on Team B AND I don’t even believe that.
Mac lynch bad because if Mac is scum then Mac is scum then what.
Both are bad lynches, but furthermore:

If Sig is bad, Mac is probably always bad. So lynch Mac first.
Both are bad lynches, but you voted for me instead of attempting to push 20+ other options?
I have been attempting to push 20+ other options. It hasn’t worked.
So try harder?
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 3]

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“Math is scummy!”
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:48 pm You guys are also being verrrrry liberal with the term gaslighting
I have a wonderful solution to this. You'll see it one day.
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 3]

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MacDougall wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:37 am The way I am reading it is that TSP is attempting to use some sort of probability to justify his vote as opposed to actually taking personal accountability for a read, which is a scum mentality generally.
I’ll take personal accountability into account: I think Sig is town. I’m indifferent on you. I’m voting for you.
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 3]

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TSP is a loose cannon
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Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 3]

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Page 81 is painful to read.
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