Corrupt!? Mafia (ENDGAME)

[leetic]

[mention]boo[/mention]
[mention]Dragomir[/mention]
[mention]DrWilgy[/mention]
[mention]Duskfall[/mention]
[mention]Funnygurl555[/mention]
[mention]G-Man[/mention]
[mention]Hyena[/mention]
[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]
[mention]Johann[/mention]
[mention]MacDougall[/mention]
[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention]
[mention]nutella[/mention]
[mention]Sloonei[/mention]

At the end of the night, everyone gathered around the person who had been shot. After examining his body, they found a bottle labelled "KCN" in his pocket...

Spoiler: show

Dragomir was shot! He was a poisoner!

Meanwhile, Sloonei said he wasn't feeling too well, and he mentioned that his coffee tasted like bitter almonds. It was determined that he had been poisoned!

You have 48 hours to pick someone to give the gun to. D3 starts now.

[Sloonei]

Oh sweet.

Oh... bitter.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

BOOM BYE SCUM

Also fuck me I was trying to protect sloonei by not admitting I was always shooting drago.

[Sloonei]

Cocky theory time: Sloonei being poisoned suggests at least one syndicate regular is mafia.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I mean you were also a strong candidate for the gun D3 and likely to shoot drago yeah?

[Sloonei]

I mean you were also a strong candidate for the gun D3 and likely to shoot drago yeah?

I guess so. But I’ve been nothing but a doofus so far in this game.

[Sloonei]

Also fyi I’m going to be driving for 8-10 hours tomorrow, so don’t expect much out of me the first half of this phase. I’ll try to make a difference before I succumb to this coffee. This is why I prefer tea.

[Sloonei]

Tentatively voting to give the gun to funnygurl.

[boo]

Cocky theory time: Sloonei being poisoned suggests at least one syndicate regular is mafia.

Isn't drago?

[Funnygurl555]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NANOOOOOOOOOOOOOK FOR THE W I N W I N W I N

NANOOK THE G

TOTAL G

THE G

rip sloonei

[Funnygurl555]

JOHANN is obviously t OWN here.

NICE CATCH JOHANN

WHEEEEEEEEE

[Funnygurl555]

Tentatively voting to give the gun to funnygurl.

i mean i'll shoot whomever you tell me to if that's the case

[boo]

From Drago's ISO, I think there's 1 mafia between Mac & Hyena.

[boo]

[VOTE: G-Man] aubergine, to start.

[Hyena]

Cool.

So, I feel like moving Nanook and Funny (as well as Sloonei) up to my topmost tier after last night. I felt good about the interactions I had with them.

[Hyena]

[VOTE: Funny] aubergine

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

This is why I prefer tea.

Spoken like a true new englander

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Tentatively voting to give the gun to funnygurl.

Tentatively agree

[Hyena]

JOHANN is obviously t OWN here.

NICE CATCH JOHANN

WHEEEEEEEEE

I need you to talk to me about Johann. I'm still really sus of them, but it would be cool if I can rule him out as being scum.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Cool.

So, I feel like moving Nanook and Funny (as well as Sloonei) up to my topmost tier after last night. I felt good about the interactions I had with them.

That’s not the only reason you should feel good about me lol

[Hyena]

Cool.

So, I feel like moving Nanook and Funny (as well as Sloonei) up to my topmost tier after last night. I felt good about the interactions I had with them.

That’s not the only reason you should feel good about me lol

Well, yeah, obviously you shot mafia, too!

[Hyena]

Okay, so after the four people I mentioned, things get a bit hazy.

HOWEVER

Theoretically, us four would need to find only two more town to have autowin, assuming we're correct about everything.

Out of the remaining six, {Boo, Wilgy, G-Man, Jack, Johann, MacDougall}, I feel the most confident about G-Man being town. Most of it comes down to the emotional reaction he had D2 when he was frustrated about how fast the game was going. It felt genuine, and I feel like if he was mafia, his partners would keep him filled in on what was going on. Thus, I would want to include him in my towncore.

Funny has been calling Johann town, and Nanook has been talking about bringing him to F3 regardless of his alignment. I need help seeing that he's town, and it would be great if I can do that since that would make him a good option for our second towny.

After that, I don't have much of a read on Wilgy yet, but after seeing him in Corona Virus mafia, I think he'd be able to show that he's obvtown. I don't know if just hasn't had that chance yet whether it's due to time, RL commitments, or something else. I'm not willing to kill him yet.

That leaves {Boo, Jack, Mac}. I don't think there's more than one scum in Boo and Jack just based on the argument they had D2. Thus, we could also potentially look for town in that pair. Granted, there's also the chance that both of them are town.

Finally, Mac is just ??? If we go with calling Johann town and G-Man town, then he's already in the PoE.

Altogether, the PoE for me right now would be {Boo, Jack, Mac, Wilgy}. Things that would change it would be us finding clear town in Jack or Boo, or Wilgy becoming obvtown today by doing what he did in Corona Virus mafia.

[Funnygurl555]

From Drago's ISO, I think there's 1 mafia between Mac & Hyena.

it would have to be hyena then

[Funnygurl555]

johann was the first to catch dragomir @ hyena. like he had a case case

[Hyena]

johann was the first to catch dragomir @ hyena. like he had a case case

Okay, okay. I'll go take a look at it. If this is the case, then yeah, I'd probably include him in the towncore.

[MacDougall]

Nanook > Mac.

[MacDougall]

I'm bored with the convo about Johann self-shooting. I'm so bored with it, I refuse to reread it and make reads from it.

Hyena is town. Lock it and throw the key away.

Spewed town imo.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Cocky theory time: Sloonei being poisoned suggests at least one syndicate regular is mafia.

Yeah and Dusk being poisoned suggests Jay and Long Con aren’t mafia.

Of course, Drago knows you and Jay and LC aren’t in the game.

Good shot, Nanook.

[Hyena]

Hey Funny --

Talk some more about Drago. I have no idea why you think he deserves to get shot as well.

Cause we play on the same forum and he is sheeping a lot. Drago town i know leads a lot. Tries to get opinions and stuff. Not just bluntly say shoot X Y Z

-- is this the case you're talking about? If it is, I wouldn't call it a -case- case. It's more just evidence that he could be scum -- granted, it's very unique evidence. Either way, yeah, it looks like he pushing Drago nearly the entire game. I'm cool with putting him into the town pile.

Town pile: {Hyena, Sloonei, Funny, Nanook, Johann}

Just need to find one more, and we can PoE the rest.

[MacDougall]

I think I look worst here but that's because Dragomir did work to pocket me. I think there's a good chance the Johann case was just distancing. Dragomir didn't respond to it like a scum responds to a townie casing them.

Bit sus on his interactions with Boo and FG too. I'd focus on those three.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Okay, so after the four people I mentioned, things get a bit hazy.

HOWEVER

Theoretically, us four would need to find only two more town to have autowin, assuming we're correct about everything.

Out of the remaining six, {Boo, Wilgy, G-Man, Jack, Johann, MacDougall}, I feel the most confident about G-Man being town. Most of it comes down to the emotional reaction he had D2 when he was frustrated about how fast the game was going. It felt genuine, and I feel like if he was mafia, his partners would keep him filled in on what was going on. Thus, I would want to include him in my towncore.

Funny has been calling Johann town, and Nanook has been talking about bringing him to F3 regardless of his alignment. I need help seeing that he's town, and it would be great if I can do that since that would make him a good option for our second towny.

After that, I don't have much of a read on Wilgy yet, but after seeing him in Corona Virus mafia, I think he'd be able to show that he's obvtown. I don't know if just hasn't had that chance yet whether it's due to time, RL commitments, or something else. I'm not willing to kill him yet.

That leaves {Boo, Jack, Mac}. I don't think there's more than one scum in Boo and Jack just based on the argument they had D2. Thus, we could also potentially look for town in that pair. Granted, there's also the chance that both of them are town.

Finally, Mac is just ??? If we go with calling Johann town and G-Man town, then he's already in the PoE.

Altogether, the PoE for me right now would be {Boo, Jack, Mac, Wilgy}. Things that would change it would be us finding clear town in Jack or Boo, or Wilgy becoming obvtown today by doing what he did in Corona Virus mafia.

I don’t think the poe is necessarily that easy but I would be surprised if everyone in Boo, Mac and Wilgy was town so yeah, let’s stir this player group around.

[Jackofhearts2005]

In particular, I’m not sure why we’re clearing FG (presumably some antialignment with Drago I’ve missed) and well, you’re not cleared either.

Plenty of time to look at that, too.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm bored with the convo about Johann self-shooting. I'm so bored with it, I refuse to reread it and make reads from it.

Hyena is town. Lock it and throw the key away.

Spewed town imo.

“My teammate is locktown” - Jack about Mac in Inception

Convince me this is tmi. I’d be certain it was if say, you died and flipped wolf. But what about Drago?

(I’m just going to be contrary all game, mkay?)

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Idk that Johan should be cleared for the drago stuff tbh, not uncommon for scum to push their partner yeah? Especially if they don’t think they’ll actually get shot lol

[MacDougall]

Idk that Johan should be cleared for the drago stuff tbh, not uncommon for scum to push their partner yeah? Especially if they don’t think they’ll actually get shot lol

If it was only that easy lol

[MacDougall]

I'm bored with the convo about Johann self-shooting. I'm so bored with it, I refuse to reread it and make reads from it.

Hyena is town. Lock it and throw the key away.

Spewed town imo.

“My teammate is locktown” - Jack about Mac in Inception

Convince me this is tmi. I’d be certain it was if say, you died and flipped wolf. But what about Drago?

(I’m just going to be contrary all game, mkay?)

Too early. Pocket attempt imo.

[Funnygurl555]

twas an unnecessary push. it was important-- we noticed it

also lol jack

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Idk that Johan should be cleared for the drago stuff tbh, not uncommon for scum to push their partner yeah? Especially if they don’t think they’ll actually get shot lol

If it was only that easy lol

Yeah unfortunately. Just saying it’s not particularly clearing for me

[Johann]

Get rekt son

Hyena where you at

[Johann]

I have a feeling mafia is one of people trying to discredit me as scum after last night. I def sense a mafia in there. Even if i am not 100% confirmed i reckon mafia wants to downplay me to prevent further pushes.

Amongst people sussing
Hyena - Dougall - Nanook

So my main scum read and 2 guys that had a gun.

I dont think its Nanook. He had a chance to kill me or kill someone else but still killed Dragomir. If he is mafia then thats just gg wp

Hyena is just scum to me. Not more to say

Dougall - ill need to check d1 end

[Johann]

I dont expect to be 100% cleared but i also dont expect people trying to downplay it since get go

[Johann]

I am okay to give FG or me a gun
Yes me

[MacDougall]

I have a feeling mafia is one of people trying to discredit me as scum after last night. I def sense a mafia in there. Even if i am not 100% confirmed i reckon mafia wants to downplay me to prevent further pushes.

Amongst people sussing
Hyena - Dougall - Nanook

So my main scum read and 2 guys that had a gun.

I dont think its Nanook. He had a chance to kill me or kill someone else but still killed Dragomir. If he is mafia then thats just gg wp

Hyena is just scum to me. Not more to say

Dougall - ill need to check d1 end

I'm not doing that. I am simply pointing out that what you did shouldn't clear you.

But you sure are better placed than me.

I haven't had good reads this game but I think hyena is town.

[MacDougall]

If you are town and I am scum I would be more inclined to go the easy route and just clear you and mark you for later death fwiw.

[MacDougall]

Nanook and I had similar reactions and he is quite likely town. I think that's a fair statement for what would be a reasonable minded town response.

Let's consider those clearing you...

[MacDougall]

What I’d like to get from everyone is two people you would shoot and two people you would not. Doesn’t have to be ranked 1/2, I don’t care. Just give me two names on either end.

I would NOT shoot G-Man or Funny.
I WOULD shoot Dragomir or Boo.

I'm just re-reading and noticed this. Based on my reading right now it is perfect. Hyena has massive town cred for me for those two names he's listed as town. Would never shoot him, FG or G-man as it stands. The POE narrows.

[MacDougall]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

I'm basically with you on Wilgy and Mac. I'm not in the same place with you on Sloon, GMan or Johann but I'm of the same opinion that none of them should be shot today.

Tell me what you got out of my interactions with Boo yesterday?

Talk to me about FG, Drago and Hyena. What is the most compelling reason to kill and not kill each of them?

Do you think I am scum Jack?

[MacDougall]

Cocky theory time: Sloonei being poisoned suggests at least one syndicate regular is mafia.

Yes it's Jack. I am just about convinced. What a shame that I didn't shoot him.

[MacDougall]

From Drago's ISO, I think there's 1 mafia between Mac & Hyena.

I don't think you believe this. Nothing is ever that simple. This read is too basic.

[MacDougall]

Okay, so after the four people I mentioned, things get a bit hazy.

HOWEVER

Theoretically, us four would need to find only two more town to have autowin, assuming we're correct about everything.

Out of the remaining six, {Boo, Wilgy, G-Man, Jack, Johann, MacDougall}, I feel the most confident about G-Man being town. Most of it comes down to the emotional reaction he had D2 when he was frustrated about how fast the game was going. It felt genuine, and I feel like if he was mafia, his partners would keep him filled in on what was going on. Thus, I would want to include him in my towncore.

Funny has been calling Johann town, and Nanook has been talking about bringing him to F3 regardless of his alignment. I need help seeing that he's town, and it would be great if I can do that since that would make him a good option for our second towny.

After that, I don't have much of a read on Wilgy yet, but after seeing him in Corona Virus mafia, I think he'd be able to show that he's obvtown. I don't know if just hasn't had that chance yet whether it's due to time, RL commitments, or something else. I'm not willing to kill him yet.

That leaves {Boo, Jack, Mac}. I don't think there's more than one scum in Boo and Jack just based on the argument they had D2. Thus, we could also potentially look for town in that pair. Granted, there's also the chance that both of them are town.

Finally, Mac is just ??? If we go with calling Johann town and G-Man town, then he's already in the PoE.

Altogether, the PoE for me right now would be {Boo, Jack, Mac, Wilgy}. Things that would change it would be us finding clear town in Jack or Boo, or Wilgy becoming obvtown today by doing what he did in Corona Virus mafia.

Jack is bad. Boo has great tone but almost has to be bad via POE. It could be Wilgy instead of Boo. But yes your POE is spot on. I'd include Johann but only at a stretch.