Corrupt!? Mafia (ENDGAME)

#1851

FG you can shoot Jack. I won't bitch about it. But I'd rather you shoot Wilgy unless he shows up between now and EOD and goes on a tear.

#1852

We’re at basically 7/2 right now, yeah? If we mis-shoot we’ll be at 5/2, wilgy can die then if necessary.

Otherwise I prefer to keep a potentially strong town voice around another day.

#1853

In fact, I think we should be giving the gun within [wilgy/gman/boo/jack/mac] with clear instructions that if they don’t shoot within that group tonight they will themselves get shot tomorrow night.

I think forcing the POE to shoot within themselves is optimal rn?

#1854

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 6:54 am In fact, I think we should be giving the gun within [wilgy/gman/boo/jack/mac] with clear instructions that if they don’t shoot within that group tonight they will themselves get shot tomorrow night.

I think forcing the POE to shoot within themselves is optimal rn?

What is the value vs. just giving the gun to someone outside to shoot into it? How is the outcome different? Not objecting just don't get it.

#1855

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:02 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 6:54 am In fact, I think we should be giving the gun within [wilgy/gman/boo/jack/mac] with clear instructions that if they don’t shoot within that group tonight they will themselves get shot tomorrow night.

I think forcing the POE to shoot within themselves is optimal rn?
What is the value vs. just giving the gun to someone outside to shoot into it? How is the outcome different? Not objecting just don't get it.

Person outside the POE shoots scum, great but doesn’t change the POE. Person inside POE shoots scum, awesome they’re probably out of the POE.

Also gives us a readable moment via the shot choice we otherwise wouldn’t have.

#1856

Shoot Wilgy simply bcs dead weight at this point. I don't want someone like that to live any longer and cause confusion

#1857

If not wilgy then boo

#1858

Tbh I’m pretty tempted to just hard defend wilgy today, I feel like shielding him today is the right play for some reason

#1859

I can’t tell if I just have great reads or I’m feeling contrarian tho

Maybe both!

#1860

You know what, fuck it, boo and wilgy aren’t in the POE today, and I’m voting to give boo the gun. Make me proud boo bear.

Today I’m hard aligning with boo/wilgy and pooooooosibly hyena but I need to check some stuff when I can use my laptop again. Fight me.

(Unless sloonei disagrees then I’m sheeping sloonei)

#1861

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 2:06 am sounds good. in that poe i'd go for jack

Talk to me about why you suspect me and I’ll guide you to a better choice.

#1862

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:31 am You know what, fuck it, boo and wilgy aren’t in the POE today, and I’m voting to give boo the gun. Make me proud boo bear.

Today I’m hard aligning with boo/wilgy and pooooooosibly hyena but I need to check some stuff when I can use my laptop again. Fight me.

(Unless sloonei disagrees then I’m sheeping sloonei)

Lolwut?

#1863

I know, it’s a shocking decision.

But yeah I’m shielding wilgy and boo they’re both off the table today, find someone else to push/shoot

#1864

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 6:12 am FG you can shoot Jack. I won't bitch about it. But I'd rather you shoot Wilgy unless he shows up between now and EOD and goes on a tear.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 6:37 am We’re at basically 7/2 right now, yeah? If we mis-shoot we’ll be at 5/2, wilgy can die then if necessary.

Otherwise I prefer to keep a potentially strong town voice around another day.

This is one of these candid camera games, huh?

#1865

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:00 am I know, it’s a shocking decision.

But yeah I’m shielding wilgy and boo they’re both off the table today, find someone else to push/shoot

Let me rephrase.

“Why the fuck do you have that opinion?”

#1866

No I’m 100% serious, I’ll fight a wilgy or boo shot today tooth and nail

#1867

Tbh I don’t feel the need to explain myself beyond that o firmly believe it’s the correct decision to hard shield them today.

#1868

Push somewhere else

#1869

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:01 am No I’m 100% serious, I’ll fight a wilgy or boo shot today tooth and nail

Why?

You just said you can’t tell if you’re just being contrarian.

You just said defending Boo seems right “for some reason.”

Fuck yeah, you do need to explain yourself. Bussing is a thing. You don’t get to take people out of the poe for no reason at all just because you shot a wolf. There’s obvious wolf motivation for this play. What’s the townie reason?

#1870

Unless I’m your new push, and I emphasize this, push somewhere else

Probably shouldn’t push me tho I’m basically lock town

#1871

Do you think boo and wilgy are exactly the scum team? If not, this should be an achievable task

#1872

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:08 am Unless I’m your new push, and I emphasize this, push somewhere else

Probably shouldn’t push me tho I’m basically lock town

Sure.

I officially accuse you of trying to defend Boo or Wilgy, whichever is your partner.

If either of them flip wolf, I’m blasting you next.

You earlier said you thought killing Boo might be a good idea because he refused to explain his reads. Explain yours.

Linki: No, I don’t think that’s the scumteam. I think it’s one of them and one of you and Mac. Have a pretty strong townread on everyone else except Hyena, who once again feels town but I haven’t seen his wolf game.

#1873

I’d say your insistence on protecting “strong town voice” Wilgy and Mac’s insistence on shooting exactly Wilgy today make it quite a bit more likely the wolf is Wilgy, not Boo.

#1874

Wilgy has less than 20 posts this game. You have more than 200.

It doesn’t make sense to continue to hold off for “strong town voice” Wilgy from your perspective. You specifically should be advocating that we don’t bring a 19 poster any deeper into the game. That’s what I expect from town Nanook specifically.

So why are you doing the opposite. And the answer is not “lol I shot a wolf. I do what I want.”

#1875

Particularly because Nanook just won coronovirus mafia by bussing MP.

#1876

Coronavirus mafia wilgy low posted for like 4 days then showed up out of nowhere and damn near solved the game, to the point I made a strictly suboptimal choice to kill him bevause he was that good. I see no reason to kill wilgy before we have to (that point would be tomorrow night), and I dislike the pushes on him/amount of pushes on him. I’d prefer to give him time to show up if he’s going to, and shoot him tomorrow night if he doesn’t.

#1877

I’m confirmed town, fuck off

I’ll tell you why I’m hard defending them tonight, scout’s honor

#1878

And before you say “BUT YOU LIKE KILLING LURKERS,” context is king. I do like killing lurkers broadly but I don’t like killing lurkers I know are strong players when they actually show up before it’s strictly necessary.

#1879

I know this is WIFOM, but if I’m mafia bussing drago I don’t hard TR him then ignore him after sloonei challenges that read and all night just to shoot him. When sloonei challenges the read I just make a show of “changing” my mind, and hard push him from there.

#1880

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:31 am You know what, fuck it, boo and wilgy aren’t in the POE today, and I’m voting to give boo the gun. Make me proud boo bear.

Today I’m hard aligning with boo/wilgy and pooooooosibly hyena but I need to check some stuff when I can use my laptop again. Fight me.

(Unless sloonei disagrees then I’m sheeping sloonei)

So what you're saying is that you shot your teammate so you could openwolf for the rest of the game and get no suspicion for it? Cool.

#1881

I appreciate you guys trying to make sure I don’t get poisoned tonight

#1882

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:08 am Unless I’m your new push, and I emphasize this, push somewhere else

Probably shouldn’t push me tho I’m basically lock town

Why the basically? Can't bring yourself to commit fully to the bit eh?

Jack ... truce?

#1883

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:49 am I appreciate you guys trying to make sure I don’t get poisoned tonight

Oh sure thaaaats why you won't get poisoned mhmm.

#1884

Nanook I'll agree to give the gun to a member of the POE. If it's exactly Jack.

#1885

Let's give Jack the gun and let himself clear himself by shooting Wilgy. I liked that plan.

#1886

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:33 am I know this is WIFOM, but...

Rarely do these words precede ones worth reading.

#1887

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:52 am Let's give Jack the gun and let himself clear himself by shooting Wilgy. I liked that plan.

Me too.

#1888

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:30 am And before you say “BUT YOU LIKE KILLING LURKERS,” context is king. I do like killing lurkers broadly but I don’t like killing lurkers I know are strong players when they actually show up before it’s strictly necessary.

Wilgy probs ain't gonna show up and he also isn't gonna just show up and just endgame this for town. He didn't stop you winning Rona mafia for instance.

#1889

FG I know you want gun but this plan that Nanook came up with before he LITERALLY POSTED HIS SCUM ROLE CARD IN THE THREAD OMG was good. Give the gun to Jack.

#1890

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:29 am I’m confirmed town, fuck off

I’ll tell you why I’m hard defending them tonight, scout’s honor

Like you were in coronovirus mafia, yeah.

Vote me for then. Let someone in the POE shoot someone in the POE. Let me be the shooter and you can tell me tonight why I shouldn't shoot Wilgy and maybe I'll listen.

Linki lol

#1891

Wait Mac are you actually scum, cmon dude

#1892

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:28 am Coronavirus mafia wilgy low posted for like 4 days then showed up out of nowhere and damn near solved the game, to the point I made a strictly suboptimal choice to kill him bevause he was that good. I see no reason to kill wilgy before we have to (that point would be tomorrow night), and I dislike the pushes on him/amount of pushes on him. I’d prefer to give him time to show up if he’s going to, and shoot him tomorrow night if he doesn’t.

Wilgy is a wolf almost always if the POE is sound. I know this because I am town. You can shoot me first if it helps you get there quicker if it floats your boat. Doesn't seem like anyone likely to get the gun is going to shoot me though.

#1893

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:58 am Wait Mac are you actually scum, cmon dude

Lol no. I am confirmed town.

#1894

I clearly don’t have faith in your POE lol

#1895

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

My platform is simple.

I'm gonna shoot a fuzzball.

#1896

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 4:54 am Current shoot in order: FG > Boo > G-Man > Jack > Wilgy > Johann

Kinda nuts my entire d1 shot list are still alive considering I had the gun.

#1897

I'm also confirmed town since we're living in a world where we can just self confirm by saying so.

#1898

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 6:54 am In fact, I think we should be giving the gun within [wilgy/gman/boo/jack/mac] with clear instructions that if they don’t shoot within that group tonight they will themselves get shot tomorrow night.

I think forcing the POE to shoot within themselves is optimal rn?

This is the way.

#1899

I don't really give a shit which of me, Mac or GMan shoots Wilgy.

#1900

Idk why GMan is even in the POE since he's obviously town but whatever.

You have to get it right this time...