Nanook is a Bastard Town Win!

[Made]

Also, I was dumb enough to think Nanook was lying about tie mechanics sooo, I really didn’t care about ties till Lc brought it up.

[MartinGG99]

Honestly @Long Con I get the feeling one of us is likely to get shot tonight.

I think both of us are possibly quite difficult to delete from a scum perspective, and if one of is scum, or someone else is scum and wants to paint that picture, then one of us probably dies anyways or gets shot.

On the off-chance it is you who gets shot, I would encourage you to post how you feel/thinking/read about anyone else before night 2 ends.

[Made]

Okay, so martin is really really REALLY far off. And now I’m scared he’s town.

Ik you’re low on post, but Martin, if I’m town, who is bad here and why?

[Made]

I don’t see a world where Martin is shot tonight if he’s not mafia and mafia is paying attention

[MartinGG99]

Okay, so martin is really really REALLY far off. And now I’m scared he’s town.

Ik you’re low on post, but Martin, if I’m town, who is bad here and why?

IF you're town then I probably would start reconsidering Chardonnay, along with a close analysis of TSP.

I'm kinda hoping that you flip scum so I can lazily give town points to TSP and just pretend I've solved him.

[Made]

Also, I was dumb enough to think Nanook was lying about tie mechanics sooo, I really didn’t care about ties till Lc brought it up.

I’m starting to think the real bastard is the dumb shit we say along the way

[MartinGG99]

Actually I think in both worlds (Scum/Town Made) I start reconsidering Chardonnay.

I get the feeling that the bar for who counts as "Town" either raises higher or starts to get more confusing; since I work on a more or less relative scale or progression of who's town and who's not.

[MartinGG99]

Special note that "reconsider" does not mean that I will be changing my read on him. However its possible I may do that in tandem or respect to TSP because if both were wolves I doubt they would do this in the middle of D2:

D1 Speed chuck was hard to figure out since I thought the thing about copping Tony's partner just seemed like a joke, but i did want him to out the result for curiosity. He backed off later and said it was a post restriction thing. I did take his word at face value, and didnt press it since i didnt see it as particularly useful info to pick at.

I think post restrictions should be treated as non-AI this game. Not sure if i have said that already.

I do think that Speed tying up the votes is probably the singerly most scummy thing he has done this game. Like, its scummy wheather or not Marmot turns out to be scum. Giving mafia the chance to choose who to shoot means they can build WIFOM on a player that was garnering suspicion, (Marmot in this case).

Really only argument i can think of for town doing this is not knowing better, I dont have the experince w/ Speed to know if town them makes a mistake like that.

So yes, i do scum lean Speed.

Tony SR was fueled by spinning non-ai things about me as if they were scummy.

Just seemed like he was saying things for the sake of putting reads out there, but not really thinking about it in a slovely way. If that makes sense.

Of course im not very familiar with Tony, so there could be method to the madness.

Sort by character count become WW expert?

Char puts almost zero thought into this read on me, puts paragraphs in on Speed, and still inexplicably has a bloodlust for the groundhog

[Made]

But his vote is on speed. That’s weird.

Martin, when did you decided speedchuck was not the way?

[MartinGG99]

But his vote is on speed. That’s weird.

Martin, when did you decided speedchuck was not the way?

They have only one vote.

Can't have suspicious along-side his primary suspects, now can he?

For your question, see here.

[MartinGG99]

I mean, I did defend Chardonnay earlier on this to TSP, I believe. Maybe I gave him some counterargument he found worthwhile.

Although, If you somehow in my perceived unlikelihood of flipping town I likely will look into TSP more for that point, then I do think that aspect becomes more suspicious.

[Made]

You can have multiple sus, but like I’m always iffy when your main voice of a vote doesn’t match your main sus.

[MartinGG99]

If you have any additional questions, please put them into a single post. I only have 5 more posts till EoD now.

[Marmot]

@Made Do you hard townread speedchuck because the wagon looks to easy? Or the other way around? Or are those two separate reads.

I town read cuz he thought he had a red peak, and the wagon looked too easy. I feel like I wouldn’t be the first person making this argument if he weren’t town, cuz it’s a fairly easy argument to make in good faith as chuck’s teammate.

Given, I was mistaken and the end of the day wasn’t yesterday, so I’m more comfortable putting faith in the deep than the easy get out of jail

Meh.

It sounds like we all got some sort of role from Nanook based on his past history, so I think that's NAI.

[Marmot]

My only qualm with voting Made is that speedchuck is also voting Made.

[Marmot]

I'd happily vote in the TSP/speedchuk/Made group.

[Made]

Fwiw, I’m pretty sure I’m dead here by wagonomics. If Anyone switches off of me, Lc switches to me, GG. Even if he doesn’t, I don’t see Martin switching off of me, and even if Martin is town, then there is definitely at least one baddie on me who is incentivize not to move.

If I am to point something out tho that might save me is the fact that everyone’s voting me, I don’t think I’ve been scummy enough to justify that.

Like if char were here, they’d almost deff vote me too. Ain’t that weird

[Made]

To put it another way, if I’m bad, who is busing me? Like who is even positioned to do so? Chuck? If me and chuck are bad then D1 was the kind of derp I aspire to

[Long Con]

Honestly @Long Con I get the feeling one of us is likely to get shot tonight.

I think both of us are possibly quite difficult to delete from a scum perspective, and if one of is scum, or someone else is scum and wants to paint that picture, then one of us probably dies anyways or gets shot.

On the off-chance it is you who gets shot, I would encourage you to post how you feel/thinking/read about anyone else before night 2 ends.

I can do that.

Fwiw, I’m pretty sure I’m dead here by wagonomics. If Anyone switches off of me, Lc switches to me, GG. Even if he doesn’t, I don’t see Martin switching off of me, and even if Martin is town, then there is definitely at least one baddie on me who is incentivize not to move.

If I am to point something out tho that might save me is the fact that everyone’s voting me, I don’t think I’ve been scummy enough to justify that.

Like if char were here, they’d almost deff vote me too. Ain’t that weird

Actually, I switched to you two hours ago, I forgot to vote in the poll.

[Long Con]

So yeah, Made is one vote away from hammering right now... but it's an hour and twenty minutes left in the poll anyway, so the hammer becomes less and less of a spectre.

[Marmot]

To put it another way, if I’m bad, who is busing me? Like who is even positioned to do so? Chuck? If me and chuck are bad then D1 was the kind of derp I aspire to

I'm paranoid about this now too. Everyone has either voted for you or expressed interest in voting for you except for chardonnay.

They did "express interest", but everything up until that point was a townread, and even this post doesn't actually believe you're scum.


So I guess char and Made are compatible, but I do find char's townreads of Made believable.


I still just think it's TSP/speedchuck. Their content today hasn't made me feel any better about it.

[Marmot]

Moving my vote back to [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

[Marmot]

Man the baddies are really coming out of the woodwork to jump on lil old me.

You guys have grievances you wanna talk about? Those would be good.

Jeez I forgot this game existed for like 24 hours.

To respond to the question someone asked, I'm vanilla at the moment. Maybe that changes, maybe I have an ability and don't know what it is, but right now I'm vanilla.

This game doesn't feel very bastard. I was honestly expecting a clusterfuck and here we are actually solving at things.

Don't know anything about Martin's meta but I'm inclined to disagree with LC a little.

The "Yeah you think I'm scum but for dumb reasons and I am indignant about those reasons" thing isn't universal. It's something some players do, but I'm not one of them. I don't like the 'I'm a high poster' defense, but I could see a town person making it.

It's still sus for him not to break the tie on D1, but I don't see a scum motive for doing it either.

Martin could be scum. He's a little overdefensive, but I think the self-righteous defense rings genuine. It's like he got obsessed with the tunnel and was building up for an 'I told you so' if he flips.

Oh yeah, Made exudes town looking paranoia several times this game. Expressing concerns over things that I dont think mafia would be comfortable asserting. Like the "Maybe mod OP is lie, and ties aren't mafia kill choice" line.

I think tonally he looks town over all I'd say.

-/-/-/-

Ill lookit LC tomorrow.

So (I was looking at Char and remembered this:)

The 'maybe OP lies and ties aren't mafia choice' is just the worst thing. -EV. Not a helpful observation. It's like observing that 'Maybe Esoaa was scum and the flip was a lie.' It's unhelpful for town to consider calling those bluffs, because it's what we have to work with.

Don't remember the context, but if Made was going 'Eh, don't worry about the Tie,' that's bad. If they were being subtle about it, that's worse.

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Seeing a lot of egging on from the sidelines to push people in direction, not a whole lot of leading or genuine consideration of points? It is hilarious, but I have no idea where Made stands.

Iduno maybe I should just say 'Vibe' I'm having trouble articulating why Made's ISO is meh to me

Here's speedchuck's posts today. These are after I posited that he and TSP teammates. He's mentioned every other player today except for TSP.

[MartinGG99]

He's mentioned every other player today except for TSP.

I honestly hadn't thought to check for this.

But I don't know which weighs more heavily on me, Chuck or Made.

I think and feel atm if Made is town then yes we certainly go for TSP/Chuck.

I'm not sure if I want to live through a world where Chuck flips town though, before Made flips, and having to live through that because knowing Made's flip (IMO) will help solve TSP's slot and by extension Chuck's as well since they're both voting the same person.

[Made]

@Marmot hammer me coward!!!

Let my blood drench the guilty and awaken fire in the eyes of the people

[Made]

Chuck is prob not bad here for the record. That’s kinda a silly take. Don’t vote there

[Marmot]

@Marmot hammer me coward!!!

Let my blood drench the guilty and awaken fire in the eyes of the people

K

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

[Marmot]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME we have a hammer.

[Marmot]

He's mentioned every other player today except for TSP.

I honestly hadn't thought to check for this.

But I don't know which weighs more heavily on me, Chuck or Made.

I think and feel atm if Made is town then yes we certainly go for TSP/Chuck.

I'm not sure if I want to live through a world where Chuck flips town though, before Made flips, and having to live through that because knowing Made's flip (IMO) will help solve TSP's slot and by extension Chuck's as well since they're both voting the same person.

Hopefully it's Made and you can sleep easy tonight

[Made]

[Marmot]

My eyes are on fire!!! It's working Made!

[TonyStarkPrime]

what the hell we hammered made

[TonyStarkPrime]

ok that's fine

[TonyStarkPrime]

seems suboptimal but who am I to judge I pop in once a day

[Marmot]

I think my role flavor wanted me to hammer made

[Made]

I swear if there’s no hammer and THAT was the bastard

[Marmot]

Maybe our host is hammered?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Made (5): TSP, Chuck, martin, LC, marmot
Martin (1): made
Chuck (1): Chardonnay

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Made flips town

Night lasts ~24 hours

@chardonnay
@Long Con
@Marmot
@MartinGG99
@speedchuck
@TonyStarkPrime

Postcaps are these +40

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[Long Con]

of course

[Marmot]

@speedchuck are you bad?

[Long Con]

Speedchuck and chardonnay are bad.

[MartinGG99]

Welp we gotta get the next two guesses right

because we're out of miseliminations

[TonyStarkPrime]

k

[speedchuck]

Damn.

I'm not bad. Pretty sure I can solve the whole game tomorrow though. Sorry I wasn't around more, weekends are hard.

[chardonnay]

i think that LC, and Martian are more town looking then Speed, and Tony.

im not sure what else i have to say atm, will probably have to reconsider somethings tomarrow.

[Long Con]

I'd say the one town member out of Tony, chard, and chuck needs to make themselves known in a real way somehow.

It's not Martin or Marmot because I came to suspect them on my own and I'm just probably wrong. I think I might be able to start using my wrongness as a positive solving tool.

[Marmot]

i think that LC, and Martian are more town looking then Speed, and Tony.

im not sure what else i have to say atm, will probably have to reconsider somethings tomarrow.

Did you skip my name since you're going to kill me tonight?

[Long Con]

i think that LC, and Martian are more town looking then Speed, and Tony.

im not sure what else i have to say atm, will probably have to reconsider somethings tomarrow.

Did you skip my name since you're going to kill me tonight?

except clearly I will die tonight.

[Marmot]

i think that LC, and Martian are more town looking then Speed, and Tony.

im not sure what else i have to say atm, will probably have to reconsider somethings tomarrow.

Did you skip my name since you're going to kill me tonight?

except clearly I will die tonight.

^^Mafia listen to this guy