Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Michelle]

About Nanook, interesting to check when we know his alignament later in the game

Spoiler: show

I don’t know how to read nanook. Like at all. He leads in the poll right now and a few people are talking about their scum reads on him with confidence. I have not seen an explanation for any of these suspicions. Please help.

he's starkly different in his tone and enthusiasm from his towngames and seems much less easygoing

I don’t know how to read nanook. Like at all. He leads in the poll right now and a few people are talking about their scum reads on him with confidence. I have not seen an explanation for any of these suspicions. Please help.

he's starkly different in his tone and enthusiasm from his towngames and seems much less easygoing

How so?

I don’t know how to read nanook. Like at all. He leads in the poll right now and a few people are talking about their scum reads on him with confidence. I have not seen an explanation for any of these suspicions. Please help.

he's starkly different in his tone and enthusiasm from his towngames and seems much less easygoing

This is a good read and is sorta something I noticed to, but at the same time I feel like Nanook is more insidious as mafia than this. I feel like Nanook has a great understanding of their town traits and nothing in this game would have pushed Nanook into struggling to do that if that was his goal. I also don't like how willing everyone is to sheep my read on Nanook or look to me for guidance there and I am sure at least one wolf is among those who voted or pushed nanook after I did.

I don’t know how to read nanook. Like at all. He leads in the poll right now and a few people are talking about their scum reads on him with confidence. I have not seen an explanation for any of these suspicions. Please help.

he's starkly different in his tone and enthusiasm from his towngames and seems much less easygoing

How so?

he's usually joking/shitposting in abundance but right now he seems almost afraid to talk and his usual sarcasm is lacking

not sure i can give you more than that but my read on him is pretty strong fwiw

I don’t know how to read nanook. Like at all. He leads in the poll right now and a few people are talking about their scum reads on him with confidence. I have not seen an explanation for any of these suspicions. Please help.

he's starkly different in his tone and enthusiasm from his towngames and seems much less easygoing

This is a good read and is sorta something I noticed to, but at the same time I feel like Nanook is more insidious as mafia than this. I feel like Nanook has a great understanding of their town traits and nothing in this game would have pushed Nanook into struggling to do that if that was his goal. I also don't like how willing everyone is to sheep my read on Nanook or look to me for guidance there and I am sure at least one wolf is among those who voted or pushed nanook after I did.

What are the hallmarks of a town nanook game, as opposed to his scum game?

Nanook as mafia commands more than Nanook as town but it becomes more obvious as the game drags on as you can see his postcount slowly become larger comparitive to the rest of the game, and influential towny voices are replaced with more Nanook in the thread. Nanook as mafia will generally just play optimally, push weak town, distance teammates, lean towards SPK if he feels that he can.

I don’t know how to read nanook. Like at all. He leads in the poll right now and a few people are talking about their scum reads on him with confidence. I have not seen an explanation for any of these suspicions. Please help.

he's starkly different in his tone and enthusiasm from his towngames and seems much less easygoing

Yeah something like this.

His "fluff posts" felt more stiff than usual idk how better to express

I don’t know how to read nanook. Like at all. He leads in the poll right now and a few people are talking about their scum reads on him with confidence. I have not seen an explanation for any of these suspicions. Please help.

he's starkly different in his tone and enthusiasm from his towngames and seems much less easygoing

This is a good read and is sorta something I noticed to, but at the same time I feel like Nanook is more insidious as mafia than this. I feel like Nanook has a great understanding of their town traits and nothing in this game would have pushed Nanook into struggling to do that if that was his goal. I also don't like how willing everyone is to sheep my read on Nanook or look to me for guidance there and I am sure at least one wolf is among those who voted or pushed nanook after I did.

What are the hallmarks of a town nanook game, as opposed to his scum game?

Nanook as mafia commands more than Nanook as town but it becomes more obvious as the game drags on as you can see his postcount slowly become larger comparitive to the rest of the game, and influential towny voices are replaced with more Nanook in the thread. Nanook as mafia will generally just play optimally, push weak town, distance teammates, lean towards SPK if he feels that he can.

This does not describe his current behavior as far as I can tell. Do you suspect him right now?

Nanook is my new mac. I literally have no clue how to read him one way or the other.

I only barely know how to read mac too. I would have sucked in the Season 6 finale.

Nanook sadly, also rarely catches mafia bullets because he is rather content to find his towncore and sheep them and let SPK do their thing, which actually makes him a good town player because his townreads are usually very good with only the exception of a few specific people who are capable of pocketing him when they specifically seek to do so. This means that Nanook tends towards getting to the mid/late stages of most games. As town he actually tends to refuse to take up positions of authority until there is literally no other strong town read he has left which tends not to happen until F5 or F3 situations. As mafia he will take up command rather sooner than this and begin to powerwolf and push pro wolf agenda as soon as he feels like the numbers favour his team.

I don’t know how to read nanook. Like at all. He leads in the poll right now and a few people are talking about their scum reads on him with confidence. I have not seen an explanation for any of these suspicions. Please help.

he's starkly different in his tone and enthusiasm from his towngames and seems much less easygoing

How so?

he's usually joking/shitposting in abundance but right now he seems almost afraid to talk and his usual sarcasm is lacking

not sure i can give you more than that but my read on him is pretty strong fwiw

I’m not “afraid to talk” I have chronic migraines

Imagine nutella thinking she can read me

So cute

what about mac scumreading you? if he's still scumreading you not hundred percent sure

I’m writing it off as a lovers spat

If he holds it too long I’ll OMGUS him but we’re not there yet

Is his assessment of your meta accurate?

It’s pretty good yeah

No excessive AtE will be allowed in this game. Excessive AtE is defined as anything that directly states, implies, or suggests that your real life and/or friendship is being negatively effected by the game. If you feel that your real life is being negatively effected by the game, please contact a mod or site admin. (credit: nanook for the rule)

Mom i’m famous

TRUST THE PROCESS BABAY

Martin’s probably that role from Jack that keeps subbing in and out we should def kill it

Jim Nantz hasn't role-claimed yet, so they're probably town.

Jim nantz is forever scum

Nanook's first four posts, which were all there were when Mac first made the original scumread. I agreed because these entry posts felt less comfortable than I'm used to nanook being at start of game.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME how dare you rand mafia without me.

Yeah man it fucking sucks

hottest of hot takes fresh from my griddle

made/nook w/w

Damn caught me already, rip

His reaction to being scumread; this is followed by more snarky joking about bussing Made etc. I think this is decently likely for Nanook to do as either alignment but deep in my tummy it feels more likely to just actually be scum -- similar to my later Wilgy read actually.



Then there's the fruit convo where he gets all mad at me for being a hipster lmao. This may be a dumb read and he's gonna laugh at me for it but. His tone in those posts legitimately felt off to me, I'm not sure if this makes sense but like the way he was engaging in the ""off-topic"" content (he will say nothing is off topic and well the fact i'm reading into it attests to that) was like a wolf who was excited to have something to talk about in the thread and get into a heated exchange just to generate posts. Similarly continuing his la croix argument with hyena where he just posted a series of memes, like he was far too into that. Again I am very familiar with Nanook enjoying banter in the thread but I would also expect him to have tossed out some spontaneous reads by now as well and he hasn't really done that, he's only really shitposted.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME surely you have townreads by now? You even brought up that you approve of picking early "mason" names as a strategy but you haven't named any townreads yourself and that seems out of character.

I don’t know how to read nanook. Like at all. He leads in the poll right now and a few people are talking about their scum reads on him with confidence. I have not seen an explanation for any of these suspicions. Please help.

that's how it is in every game

so far I've never seen anyone be right

The obvious suspects, Mac and Nutella.

Jack, syn, hyena.

I actually think the fact he's given no townreads yet is a really really strong indicator he's mafia.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME can you take the time to ISO Syn and Sloonei and give me reads on them please?

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

woof

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

Woof woof!

You and 112 are on the side of evil if you're against the great, almighty Nanook!

hyena tmiing nanook town?

How do you look at that post and think "that must be a TMI townread"? I'm not getting it.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME can you take the time to ISO Syn and Sloonei and give me reads on them please?

I think syn’s town and idk how to read sloon

The obvious suspects, Mac and Nutella.

Jack, syn, hyena.

Are these all town reads? Why the bottom three?

Yeh

I think they’re town

[Michelle]

Alright, I have no fuckin' idea what's going on.

How come?

Everyone says all my reads are shit, and I'm not sure what's happening.



I think I'm gonna watch some Friends or sumfin', eat some vanilla ice cream

Is playing mafia anywhere in your to do list today?

[falcon45ca]

Alright, I have no fuckin' idea what's going on.

How come?

Everyone says all my reads are shit, and I'm not sure what's happening.



I think I'm gonna watch some Friends or sumfin', eat some vanilla ice cream

Is playing mafia anywhere in your to do list today?

It's #3

[Long Con]

Weak reason, you should be ashamed.

is it just me

or does mafia/scum like never say someone should be ashamed and that its not wrong for me to town-read Michelle here

I think I've seen scum say similar before, but generally to partners rather than townies. I have a weak townread on Michelle just because of the amount of content she's giving and that she seems fairly comfortable (and I think those things are AI for her).

Yeah, I think I've seen such minor AtE in a scum defense before. It could be clearing depending on the player who said it, though. I don't know that Michelle is given to phony guilt-tripping, but maybe.

Please reformulate the yellow

I don't know if you, as a wolf, would try to make someone feel ashamed (or guilty) for their reasons for suspecting you.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Michelle town.

One read down.

[Long Con]

Michelle town.

One read down.

Due to that spoiler thing a few posts up?

[DrWilgy]

Michelle town.

One read down.

What about me Jack? Can we just clear each other and power town through the game?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Michelle town.

One read down.

What about me Jack? Can we just clear each other and power town through the game?

I’ll clear you if you show power.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Michelle town.

One read down.

Due to that spoiler thing a few posts up?

Just generally saying things wolf Michelle doesn’t say imo. Shiny in a Michelle way. Like bronze.

[Michelle]

Alright, I have no fuckin' idea what's going on.

How come?

Everyone says all my reads are shit, and I'm not sure what's happening.



I think I'm gonna watch some Friends or sumfin', eat some vanilla ice cream

Is playing mafia anywhere in your to do list today?

It's #3

[Michelle]

Michelle town.

One read down.

Due to that spoiler thing a few posts up?

Just generally saying things wolf Michelle doesn’t say imo. Shiny in a Michelle way. Like bronze.

1. A shameles pocket attempt?
2. Action succeeds instantly?
3. Is the logic solid?
Nope

Spoiler: show

Jack is villaging like 82,37%

[Michelle]

Weak reason, you should be ashamed.

is it just me

or does mafia/scum like never say someone should be ashamed and that its not wrong for me to town-read Michelle here

I think I've seen scum say similar before, but generally to partners rather than townies. I have a weak townread on Michelle just because of the amount of content she's giving and that she seems fairly comfortable (and I think those things are AI for her).

Yeah, I think I've seen such minor AtE in a scum defense before. It could be clearing depending on the player who said it, though. I don't know that Michelle is given to phony guilt-tripping, but maybe.

Please reformulate the yellow

I don't know if you, as a wolf, would try to make someone feel ashamed (or guilty) for their reasons for suspecting you.

Thank for explanation, english is hard to get sometimes.

[Syn]

If anything important happens in the next 8-10 hours someone mark it with a ping.

G'night.

@Timsup2nothin Anything important

[Syn]

Is it just me or are ISos broken? It starts at page four and then the buttons dont move. I go to page 1 and if i want to press page 4 it either doesn't do anything or puts me on page 2.
Maybe it will fix itself later.

Talking about tutuu's ISO btw.

this is tutuu's wolf strat, breaking the site software so she's untraceable

[Jackofhearts2005]

Wilgy is town.

Volumetell.

That’s two.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Swear, ya’ll would be lost without me.

[Syn]

"usually"

how many games have you even played with me?

through the power of reading, i can see nutella in action beyond only up close and personally

two or three?

Have you seen Nut's scum game? Because if you have I think you'll figure out that this isn't it.

I have too high an opinion of nutella to think she'd be railroaded into a singular meta as an alignment

[Marmot]

Sloonei, 112 and MR are wolves.

Spinning anime girl town.
Michelle town.
Syn town.

Question, do you always call Mac Dad, or only when you're bad?

[Marmot]

#mood

[Marmot]

I'm not very familiar with Michelle, but I'm seeing more banter here than I recall seeing in Bread Mafia (which was admittedly a very intense game). Can someone crosscheck my perception here?

[Marmot]

Alright, I have no fuckin' idea what's going on.

How come?

Everyone says all my reads are shit, and I'm not sure what's happening.



I think I'm gonna watch some Friends or sumfin', eat some vanilla ice cream

What are your reads? Do you think they're shit?

[DrWilgy]

Sloonei, 112 and MR are wolves.

Spinning anime girl town.
Michelle town.
Syn town.

Question, do you always call Mac Dad, or only when you're bad?

Pretty much always call him Dad.

Like how I normally call nutella Hazlenut and Tutuu Spinning anime Girl. Also I generally append "friend" do your name.

What would make you think I change my vernacular per my alignment? Wouldn't that be too free of a tell?

[Marmot]

Players ranked by best to worst name for a dog

MacDougall
Michelle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Sloonei
TurnipHead
DrWilgy
Alison
Tutuu
Master Radishes
TonyStarkPrime
Nutella
Sig
Dyslexicon
Syn
Kylemii
Jackofhearts2005
Timsup2nothin
Long Con
Thunal33
Made
112
falcon45ca
MartinGG99
JustPlayingitcool
Hyena
Cat
Marmot

Best dog names are people names or ones that sound cute like calling your pupper a doctor or great and fearsome. Cute nouns like Nutella or Tutuu are acceptable but must go with a small dog. People names are generally better as they can fit with most dog breeds but a really really good name for a corgi that’s bad for a pit may rank higher than a swell name for any dog. Keep this in mind when naming your dog.

People names with extra numbers or nouns are bad names for a dog but you can at least shorten them to a good name. Strings of words and numbers that don’t even include a person name are really bad names for a dog. Sound more like you were trying to be overly clever when creating a un on a mafia forum than anything dog related and will make the other people at the dog park talk about you behind your back.

Naming dogs after another animal for irony is not clever. It’s at best obnoxious. Like, don’t name your dog “cat.” You’ll give her a complex. “Marmot” is downright offensive as a dog name.

What the fuck Jack!!!

[Marmot]

I actually have met a dog named Marmot, unlike the rest of these names.

[Marmot]

Sloonei, 112 and MR are wolves.

Spinning anime girl town.
Michelle town.
Syn town.

Question, do you always call Mac Dad, or only when you're bad?

Pretty much always call him Dad.

Like how I normally call nutella Hazlenut and Tutuu Spinning anime Girl. Also I generally append "friend" do your name.

What would make you think I change my vernacular per my alignment? Wouldn't that be too free of a tell?

Yes it would make it easy, but I didn't feel like searching all your games to find out and asking was easier.

Regardless Wilgy-senpai, calling other players by their petnames is a great way to instigate a pocket.

[DrWilgy]

Sloonei, 112 and MR are wolves.

Spinning anime girl town.
Michelle town.
Syn town.

Question, do you always call Mac Dad, or only when you're bad?

Pretty much always call him Dad.

Like how I normally call nutella Hazlenut and Tutuu Spinning anime Girl. Also I generally append "friend" do your name.

What would make you think I change my vernacular per my alignment? Wouldn't that be too free of a tell?

Yes it would make it easy, but I didn't feel like searching all your games to find out and asking was easier.

Regardless Wilgy-senpai, calling other players by their petnames is a great way to instigate a pocket.

Yeh but I pocket as both town and scum

[Jackofhearts2005]

I said what I said, Marmot.

[falcon45ca]

Alright, I have no fuckin' idea what's going on.

How come?

Everyone says all my reads are shit, and I'm not sure what's happening.



I think I'm gonna watch some Friends or sumfin', eat some vanilla ice cream

What are your reads? Do you think they're shit?

Alison, Michelle, MR = bad guys


No I don't, but then I remember that New! Coke was a thing, and those guys didn't think it sucked til the whole world told them, and now I wonder if I'm the new New! Coke

[DrWilgy]

beat the twisted evil things

[Marmot]

[DrWilgy]

[112]

Michelle town.

One read down.

ye

[Timsup2nothin]

If anything important happens in the next 8-10 hours someone mark it with a ping.

G'night.

@Timsup2nothin Anything important

Got quoted once. No pings. Guess not.

[Marmot]

Alright, I have no fuckin' idea what's going on.

How come?

Everyone says all my reads are shit, and I'm not sure what's happening.



I think I'm gonna watch some Friends or sumfin', eat some vanilla ice cream

What are your reads? Do you think they're shit?

Alison, Michelle, MR = bad guys


No I don't, but then I remember that New! Coke was a thing, and those guys didn't think it sucked til the whole world told them, and now I wonder if I'm the new New! Coke

You lost me at "soda was a thing".

I agree on MR. The amount of on topic content I've seen from him is alarming.

[Michelle]

This game is totally atypical.

Dr. W is talkative, Tim is out of meta, Sloonei is asking for opinions about me when he knows me well, I am making a mistake I never make, tutuu is acting like a jester, Made is openfluffing, and so on... Ah, one more thing, Jack doesn't post gifs

I bet i didn't notice a dozen of other things, but I am only a little puppy.

[DrWilgy]

Alright, I have no fuckin' idea what's going on.

How come?

Everyone says all my reads are shit, and I'm not sure what's happening.



I think I'm gonna watch some Friends or sumfin', eat some vanilla ice cream

What are your reads? Do you think they're shit?

Alison, Michelle, MR = bad guys


No I don't, but then I remember that New! Coke was a thing, and those guys didn't think it sucked til the whole world told them, and now I wonder if I'm the new New! Coke

You lost me at "soda was a thing".

I agree on MR. The amount of on topic content I've seen from him is alarming.

Sore Wa Chigao yo!

I don't think that Michelle and MR would be on the same team as it stands.

[Justplayingitcool]

Group 1

TurnipHead
Long Con
Made
Hyena
Timsup2nothin
Sloonei
Syn
Thunal33
DrWilgy
sig

Group 2

falcon45ca
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Master Radishes
112
MacDougall
Alison

Group 3

Cat
tutuu
Kylemii
TonyStarkPrime
Michelle
JackofHearts2005

Dear Tribunal

@Justplayingitcool
@Marmot
@nutella
@MartinGG99
@Dyslexicon

Your first task is to vote on which of these three aforementioned groups get absolute and total immunity from day 1.

Let's go group 3.

[DrWilgy]

This game is totally atypical.

Dr. W is talkative, Tim is out of meta, Sloonei is asking for opinions about me when he knows me well, I am making a mistake I never make, tutuu is acting like a jester, Made is openfluffing, and so on... Ah, one more thing, Jack doesn't post gifs

I bet i didn't notice a dozen of other things, but I am only a little puppy.

*pet pet pet*

[Michelle]

Yep, Falcon is too stubborn to be scum. Take that with a grain of salt.

Good news, i feel i collected some town reads

[Justplayingitcool]

Anybody have cliff notes on the last 30 pages or so?

[DrWilgy]

Anybody have cliff notes on the last 30 pages or so?

I skipped like the first 20 and my understanding is that MR is bad, 112 is sketch, and there's a general unease about Hazelnut.

Michelle's post above also works.

Also Hyena has some gravity. Good luck!

[Timsup2nothin]

This game is totally atypical.

Dr. W is talkative, Tim is out of meta, Sloonei is asking for opinions about me when he knows me well, I am making a mistake I never make, tutuu is acting like a jester, Made is openfluffing, and so on... Ah, one more thing, Jack doesn't post gifs

I bet i didn't notice a dozen of other things, but I am only a little puppy.

Puppy!!!!

[Marmot]

This game is totally atypical.

Dr. W is talkative, Tim is out of meta, Sloonei is asking for opinions about me when he knows me well, I am making a mistake I never make, tutuu is acting like a jester, Made is openfluffing, and so on... Ah, one more thing, Jack doesn't post gifs

I bet i didn't notice a dozen of other things, but I am only a little puppy.

Tell me more about this mistake

[Michelle]

This game is totally atypical.

Dr. W is talkative, Tim is out of meta, Sloonei is asking for opinions about me when he knows me well, I am making a mistake I never make, tutuu is acting like a jester, Made is openfluffing, and so on... Ah, one more thing, Jack doesn't post gifs

I bet i didn't notice a dozen of other things, but I am only a little puppy.

*pet pet pet*

[Justplayingitcool]

Anybody have cliff notes on the last 30 pages or so?

I skipped like the first 20 and my understanding is that MR is bad, 112 is sketch, and there's a general unease about Hazelnut.

Michelle's post above also works.

Also Hyena has some gravity. Good luck!

Is it because Radishes shitposts a lot? That's just how he normally is from the few games I have played with him

[Marmot]

Apparently Michelle is the Number 2 dog name of 2020 on the Syndicate.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Here you go, Michelle.

[Marmot]

I'm uneasy about hazelnut, but that's because she keeps calling me town and I don't deserve it... yet.

[DrWilgy]

Anybody have cliff notes on the last 30 pages or so?

I skipped like the first 20 and my understanding is that MR is bad, 112 is sketch, and there's a general unease about Hazelnut.

Michelle's post above also works.

Also Hyena has some gravity. Good luck!

Is it because Radishes shitposts a lot? That's just how he normally is from the few games I have played with him

You see... I shitpost.

Radish well... Radish's posts feel like a wet napkin that someone put on your exposed thigh and left there.

[Michelle]

This game is totally atypical.

Dr. W is talkative, Tim is out of meta, Sloonei is asking for opinions about me when he knows me well, I am making a mistake I never make, tutuu is acting like a jester, Made is openfluffing, and so on... Ah, one more thing, Jack doesn't post gifs

I bet i didn't notice a dozen of other things, but I am only a little puppy.

Tell me more about this mistake

I would be idiot to give details, I just can't talk about it.

Believe me or not it's a mistake, it's your decision.