Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Dyslexicon]

I would go after them just to see what happens!

But why for that specifically, if the end goal is just to see what happens?

Sounds like bullshit to me tbh.

[MacDougall]

@falcon45ca penny for your (actual significant) thoughts?

I'm not sure my thoughts are significant. I guess I'm LHF town, cuz I've done nothing significant or noteworthy thus far, which seems to be enough to condemn me for some.


BUT! I'm not gonna fade away, no no! Not on Rex Manning day

Do you have any substantial reads? Anyone who stands out as town or mafia?

I've given them! People just don't agree with me or my rationale.

Alison, MR my top scum reads. Reasons given already.

There's prolly at least 1 wolf on my wagon. Who it is, I know not

I wasn't asking if you had given them. I was asking for them. This is a big thread.

You are holding your Alison suspicion? You truly believe Alison would instantly claim a 3p role as mafia?

Can you show me your reasons please?

[Long Con]

Joseph, how much meta do you have on cat?

Why?

You know what? Doesn't matter. You didn't ask me to vote cat anyway.

[MacDougall]

I didn't see why cat is obvious scum.

I haven't actually explained why yet tbh.

I thought that was the case. You might have funky fresh motivations.

Funky fresh being what?

It's a little bit different for every special soul.

I may have what motivations?

[Dyslexicon]

Hyena: I could go after 112 for this specific thing that I also did!
Me: Why?
Hyena: Just to see what happens!

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy got cat thoughts?

Not really. Had issues reading them last game, so I'm trying to absorb thoughts by proxy atm. Hard judgements would need to be made by arguments I observe and agree to.

[DrWilgy]

Oh, there are 4 on them now. What happened?

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca penny for your (actual significant) thoughts?

I'm not sure my thoughts are significant. I guess I'm LHF town, cuz I've done nothing significant or noteworthy thus far, which seems to be enough to condemn me for some.


BUT! I'm not gonna fade away, no no! Not on Rex Manning day

I think doing three ISOs in ten minutes is a noteworthy thing.

The claim that you are just an easy chop for lazy folk is disingenuous.

1 of the ISO's has like 10 posts. You acting like the 3 of you had a lot of depth to your ISO's is disingenuous.


You're literally calling me scum for not spending enough time stroking your ego with your ISO. Sorry, I don't belief in participation ribbons. I gave your ISO as much time as I felt it needed.

[Long Con]

I didn't see why cat is obvious scum.

I haven't actually explained why yet tbh.

I thought that was the case. You might have funky fresh motivations.

Funky fresh being what?

It's a little bit different for every special soul.

I may have what motivations?

Why?

[MacDougall]

I haven't actually explained why yet tbh.

I thought that was the case. You might have funky fresh motivations.

Funky fresh being what?

It's a little bit different for every special soul.

I may have what motivations?

Why?

Avoiding my question because I avoided yours. Fair.

[Scirrus]

scirrus is a catboy too isnt he

@Scirrus

m-m-m-meow?

Spoiler: show

:3

[Long Con]

I thought that was the case. You might have funky fresh motivations.

Funky fresh being what?

It's a little bit different for every special soul.

I may have what motivations?

Why?

Avoiding my question because I avoided yours. Fair.

Yeah, but I don't always have to be a bitch. Sometimes I just feel like it.

I don't want to unravel anything you're doing prematurely. If it's indeed anything but applying pressure in places.

[Timsup2nothin]

@falcon45ca penny for your (actual significant) thoughts?

I'm not sure my thoughts are significant. I guess I'm LHF town, cuz I've done nothing significant or noteworthy thus far, which seems to be enough to condemn me for some.


BUT! I'm not gonna fade away, no no! Not on Rex Manning day

I think doing three ISOs in ten minutes is a noteworthy thing.

The claim that you are just an easy chop for lazy folk is disingenuous.

1 of the ISO's has like 10 posts. You acting like the 3 of you had a lot of depth to your ISO's is disingenuous.


You're literally calling me scum for not spending enough time stroking your ego with your ISO. Sorry, I don't belief in participation ribbons. I gave your ISO as much time as I felt it needed.

I think you are worrying too much about my ego and not enough about the fact there is a testable hypothesis here. Anyone in the game is free to read my ISO and see if after five? six? minutes that are comfortable with "surface level, 60% scum." If a bunch of people devote six minutes and come back saying "yeah, sure, Falcon probably did that" then great...I move on, no harm no foul.

So encourage them.

[Dyslexicon]

dizzy blatant town lock town innocent child

I'm confirmed town now @112

What do you say to that?

@112 Are you not worried about me anymore? Am I not obvwolfing and stuff? Did you ever resolve anything with me?

[112]

dizzy blatant town lock town innocent child

I'm confirmed town now @112

What do you say to that?

@112 Are you not worried about me anymore? Am I not obvwolfing and stuff? Did you ever resolve anything with me?

I don't think I ever recanted my scum read?

[Kylemii]

And I don't think I have ever seen a 'Lyncher' role on The Syndicate.

long ago in the firefly game, Enrique was Saffron and needed me to get lynched. though that's not syndicate as much as the Syndicate's grandpa

[Dyslexicon]

I don't think I ever recanted my scum read?

No, you didn't say anything. Lot of people called me town and asked you to explain yourself more. You didn't really do that. Just left your vote in silence. That's why I'm asking. I find that suspect, you see.

[Dyslexicon]

I want to do dmt with Tutu and be catboys with Scirrus.

Like any good mother would.

[Long Con]

And I don't think I have ever seen a 'Lyncher' role on The Syndicate.

long ago in the firefly game, Enrique was Saffron and needed me to get lynched. though that's not syndicate as much as the Syndicate's grandpa

Black Rock betrayed you to your face in BTSC and won that game with stlgirl. She still speaks of it.

[Syn]

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

You my friend are the real woof here.

lol

The claim: You've spent a good portion of the game interacting with tim and tutuu (as I would kinda expect) in a mostly jokey manner, and while you've offered some reads, they've been of the one-worder variety: town or scum, and not engaging in deeper discussions of alignment.

Your defense?

I don't see anything to defend myself against there

why do you keep repeating "nutella wolf" with no reason

cuz you're wolfin'

[Timsup2nothin]

A simple man of simple tunnels.

[Syn]

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

You my friend are the real woof here.

lol

The claim: You've spent a good portion of the game interacting with tim and tutuu (as I would kinda expect) in a mostly jokey manner, and while you've offered some reads, they've been of the one-worder variety: town or scum, and not engaging in deeper discussions of alignment.

Your defense?

I don't see anything to defend myself against there

why do you keep repeating "nutella wolf" with no reason

One of my wild theories is that Syn is an indie lyncher who is trying to get you yeeted.

what is a lyncher

google says condemner

you'd think I'd be putting in more of an effort if that were the case

[Syn]

So Made and Tutuu have scumreads on each other. Noted.

probably w/w tbh

this but unironically

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca penny for your (actual significant) thoughts?

I'm not sure my thoughts are significant. I guess I'm LHF town, cuz I've done nothing significant or noteworthy thus far, which seems to be enough to condemn me for some.


BUT! I'm not gonna fade away, no no! Not on Rex Manning day

I think doing three ISOs in ten minutes is a noteworthy thing.

The claim that you are just an easy chop for lazy folk is disingenuous.

1 of the ISO's has like 10 posts. You acting like the 3 of you had a lot of depth to your ISO's is disingenuous.


You're literally calling me scum for not spending enough time stroking your ego with your ISO. Sorry, I don't belief in participation ribbons. I gave your ISO as much time as I felt it needed.

I think you are worrying too much about my ego and not enough about the fact there is a testable hypothesis here. Anyone in the game is free to read my ISO and see if after five? six? minutes that are comfortable with "surface level, 60% scum." If a bunch of people devote six minutes and come back saying "yeah, sure, Falcon probably did that" then great...I move on, no harm no foul.

So encourage them.

Okie dokie @Marmot @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @tutuu @Syn @Hyena @Long Con @DrWilgy

Y'all wanna give it a go?

[tutuu]

I want to do dmt with Tutu and be catboys with Scirrus.

Like any good mother would.

lmao

[Dyslexicon]

Cat's ISO with very surface level comments and a weak ass vote on Made is a no for me too actually.

Haven't looked into Falcon yet.

---

Questionables:
Radish
112
Hyena

Nice people probably:
Made
Michelle
Martin

Town core goes mmmmmm

[Long Con]

ok six minute challenge

[Syn]

@falcon45ca penny for your (actual significant) thoughts?

I'm not sure my thoughts are significant. I guess I'm LHF town, cuz I've done nothing significant or noteworthy thus far, which seems to be enough to condemn me for some.


BUT! I'm not gonna fade away, no no! Not on Rex Manning day

I think doing three ISOs in ten minutes is a noteworthy thing.

The claim that you are just an easy chop for lazy folk is disingenuous.

1 of the ISO's has like 10 posts. You acting like the 3 of you had a lot of depth to your ISO's is disingenuous.


You're literally calling me scum for not spending enough time stroking your ego with your ISO. Sorry, I don't belief in participation ribbons. I gave your ISO as much time as I felt it needed.

I think you are worrying too much about my ego and not enough about the fact there is a testable hypothesis here. Anyone in the game is free to read my ISO and see if after five? six? minutes that are comfortable with "surface level, 60% scum." If a bunch of people devote six minutes and come back saying "yeah, sure, Falcon probably did that" then great...I move on, no harm no foul.

So encourage them.

Okie dokie @Marmot @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @tutuu @Syn @Hyena @Long Con @DrWilgy

Y'all wanna give it a go?

no

[tutuu]

@falcon45ca penny for your (actual significant) thoughts?

I'm not sure my thoughts are significant. I guess I'm LHF town, cuz I've done nothing significant or noteworthy thus far, which seems to be enough to condemn me for some.


BUT! I'm not gonna fade away, no no! Not on Rex Manning day

I think doing three ISOs in ten minutes is a noteworthy thing.

The claim that you are just an easy chop for lazy folk is disingenuous.

1 of the ISO's has like 10 posts. You acting like the 3 of you had a lot of depth to your ISO's is disingenuous.


You're literally calling me scum for not spending enough time stroking your ego with your ISO. Sorry, I don't belief in participation ribbons. I gave your ISO as much time as I felt it needed.

wait i missed this post

this is towny

[VOTE: cat] aubergine

if this is right cool i can tolerate mac

if this is wrong i will have grounds to tell mac to knock it off

win-win situation

[Justplayingitcool]

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

You my friend are the real woof here.

lol

The claim: You've spent a good portion of the game interacting with tim and tutuu (as I would kinda expect) in a mostly jokey manner, and while you've offered some reads, they've been of the one-worder variety: town or scum, and not engaging in deeper discussions of alignment.

Your defense?

I don't see anything to defend myself against there

why do you keep repeating "nutella wolf" with no reason

One of my wild theories is that Syn is an indie lyncher who is trying to get you yeeted.

what is a lyncher

google says condemner

you'd think I'd be putting in more of an effort if that were the case

idk how’d you play it tbh

Your insistence on nutella just felt a bit rigid when I feel like she is coming across as townish to me

[Justplayingitcool]

Correct me if I am wrong but it feels like you’ve been after nutella since lime the start of the game

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca penny for your (actual significant) thoughts?

I'm not sure my thoughts are significant. I guess I'm LHF town, cuz I've done nothing significant or noteworthy thus far, which seems to be enough to condemn me for some.


BUT! I'm not gonna fade away, no no! Not on Rex Manning day

I think doing three ISOs in ten minutes is a noteworthy thing.

The claim that you are just an easy chop for lazy folk is disingenuous.

1 of the ISO's has like 10 posts. You acting like the 3 of you had a lot of depth to your ISO's is disingenuous.


You're literally calling me scum for not spending enough time stroking your ego with your ISO. Sorry, I don't belief in participation ribbons. I gave your ISO as much time as I felt it needed.

I think you are worrying too much about my ego and not enough about the fact there is a testable hypothesis here. Anyone in the game is free to read my ISO and see if after five? six? minutes that are comfortable with "surface level, 60% scum." If a bunch of people devote six minutes and come back saying "yeah, sure, Falcon probably did that" then great...I move on, no harm no foul.

So encourage them.

Okie dokie @Marmot @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @tutuu @Syn @Hyena @Long Con @DrWilgy

Y'all wanna give it a go?

no

[tutuu]

man falcon kinda hilarious ngl

[Syn]

Correct me if I am wrong but it feels like you’ve been after nutella since lime the start of the game

you're not wrong

she's wolfin'

[Long Con]

I thought tim's ISO was ok #sixminutechallenge

I don't think he's scummy.

[MacDougall]

Feline Vivisection - In Three Parts
Un.

Cats, nature's greatest mistake. Yet humanity has revered and worshipped them for millennia.

Why? They are such obvious villains.

And the feline in our midst is no different.

The reason I suspected Cat initially was a post they made defending Made from a Mac prod. It immediately gave me the impression of a nervous protection of a teammate. It was not long after that that they dropped a scummy vote on Nutella. This morning I followed up on it. I went and checked their full progression on Made and became convinced Cat was mafia. I also found the interactions between the two of them teammate indicative, given their timing; with Made reacting to Cat with the old "oh hai have we met" stereotype and Cat sort of soft batting it, while they were otherwise at odds with one another (don't quote this wall and pick this point out to argue with because yes it's weak and maybe NAI).

At present, the main concern I have is their progression from RVS through to unvoting Made feeling too constructed. Lacking the random energy of town and being too mindful of not appearing "scummy". As you'll see I have picked that up with Cat with two separate pushes. This one, and also their rising anti-Nutella sentiment having the same over-constructed approach.

When you add their relatively low content volume, the relative incisiveness of their perspectives vs. their volume and the lack (until now) of any real push against them. I do believe you have a mafia.

Tbc.

[Thunal33]

then I don't care

tbh, kinda surprised you're still scumreading nutella. I feel better about her

Nutella might be my fallback position so I might eventually ask about this "feeling netter," but for now why are you on Falcon is the more interesting topic. So why are you on Falcon?

read back a few pages you lazy bum

Summarize man...I'm trying to bring all the arguments together here in the live end of the thread.

Okay, but I will just be going over what I've already said a few times.

I am cynical on people who vote out indie claims. They're easy pushes because they won't be met with a lot of resistance and it's easy to look townie there because it gives off the impression that you are doing something.

I think my reasons are stronger, but I endorse yours as well.

@tutuu @MartinGG99 @Thunal33

Would you mind summarizing why you are on Falcon?

I feel like he's just going through the motions this game and not actually caring about his pushes. He doesn't have the same amount of thought as I've seen him have before and I get the feeling he doesn't really care who gets yeeted even though he wolfreads Alison (and I feel like he isn't thinking through his wolfreads on Alison and Michelle).

[112]

I don't think I ever recanted my scum read?

No, you didn't say anything. Lot of people called me town and asked you to explain yourself more. You didn't really do that. Just left your vote in silence. That's why I'm asking. I find that suspect, you see.

Oh. I'm skipping posts- can't keep up with the game entirely. And I already explained my read on you.

I changed my vote to cat because your wagon wasn't happening and I want my vote to be impactful.

I don't believe you find me doing absolutely nothing suspect, but ok.

[Kylemii]

And I don't think I have ever seen a 'Lyncher' role on The Syndicate.

long ago in the firefly game, Enrique was Saffron and needed me to get lynched. though that's not syndicate as much as the Syndicate's grandpa

Black Rock betrayed you to your face in BTSC and won that game with stlgirl. She still speaks of it.

yes, now i've been indie-betrayed by 2 members of the Rock-Con family

[Timsup2nothin]

tbh, kinda surprised you're still scumreading nutella. I feel better about her

Nutella might be my fallback position so I might eventually ask about this "feeling netter," but for now why are you on Falcon is the more interesting topic. So why are you on Falcon?

read back a few pages you lazy bum

Summarize man...I'm trying to bring all the arguments together here in the live end of the thread.

Okay, but I will just be going over what I've already said a few times.

I am cynical on people who vote out indie claims. They're easy pushes because they won't be met with a lot of resistance and it's easy to look townie there because it gives off the impression that you are doing something.

I think my reasons are stronger, but I endorse yours as well.

@tutuu @MartinGG99 @Thunal33

Would you mind summarizing why you are on Falcon?

I feel like he's just going through the motions this game and not actually caring about his pushes. He doesn't have the same amount of thought as I've seen him have before and I get the feeling he doesn't really care who gets yeeted even though he wolfreads Alison (and I feel like he isn't thinking through his wolfreads on Alison and Michelle).

Thanks "going through the motions" fits with my own take pretty well.

[Timsup2nothin]

JPIC: low energy posts, which ask more questions of others than say anything as to his own thoughts on the game. The few thoughts I did see from him came with little to no explanation. He says that's how he plays? I dunno, I'm not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum.

Tim: for a guy who says he's into the big picture, he sure seems to be playing a snap shot type of game. Again, not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum

Martin: super small sample size, but his posts seem to come from a game solve mindset. 70% town

@Long Con

Does this feel like a realistic response from someone who asked for a push and read my ISO in response?

[tutuu]

solved the game

[Thunal33]

I'm not sure about Cat, and I don't think they should have more votes than Falcon. I looked at their ISO and they just feel like a random LHF who's spent very little time in the game. If anything I think they actually believe their Nutella vote since I don't think Nutella would be a planned misyeet.

[112]

in no particular order, here are the players in the game:


Kylemii
Timsup2nothin
MacDougall
Dyslexicon
sig
nutella
Cat
Long Con
Michelle
Thunal33
Marmot
JackofHearts2005
Master Radishes
Hyena
Sloonei
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
TurnipHead
Made
JustPlayingitcool
DrWilgy
MartinGG99
TonyStarkPrime
falcon45ca
tutuu
Alison
Syn
112

[Thunal33]

solved the game

ooh pretty rainbow alignment

[Marmot]

I think Thunal is the only town player in the game

So you’re claiming not to be town. Understood!

How does him town reading Thunal automatically make him a wolf?

You missed a really obvious joke. Who are you, and what have you done with Mac?

This is not a drill

Spoiler: show

[falcon45ca]

solved the game

I am rainbow

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@falcon45ca penny for your (actual significant) thoughts?

I'm not sure my thoughts are significant. I guess I'm LHF town, cuz I've done nothing significant or noteworthy thus far, which seems to be enough to condemn me for some.


BUT! I'm not gonna fade away, no no! Not on Rex Manning day

I think doing three ISOs in ten minutes is a noteworthy thing.

The claim that you are just an easy chop for lazy folk is disingenuous.

1 of the ISO's has like 10 posts. You acting like the 3 of you had a lot of depth to your ISO's is disingenuous.


You're literally calling me scum for not spending enough time stroking your ego with your ISO. Sorry, I don't belief in participation ribbons. I gave your ISO as much time as I felt it needed.

I think you are worrying too much about my ego and not enough about the fact there is a testable hypothesis here. Anyone in the game is free to read my ISO and see if after five? six? minutes that are comfortable with "surface level, 60% scum." If a bunch of people devote six minutes and come back saying "yeah, sure, Falcon probably did that" then great...I move on, no harm no foul.

So encourage them.

Okie dokie @Marmot @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @tutuu @Syn @Hyena @Long Con @DrWilgy

Y'all wanna give it a go?

Give what a go? Reading Tim’s ISO? No thanks.

[Long Con]

solved the game

Oh come on.

[falcon45ca]

See Tim? Your ISO is so boring that 2 players have already said no