Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[Spacedaisy]

So I wasn't around, nor have I properly caught up on what happened at EoD yesterday. I know someone mentioned there was a red peek on Rej from Mac? What's the story there? Why didn't he get chopped?

I'm going to toss my vote there for now just to be sure I don't miss another vote. I'll try and play tomorrow, at the very least I can play at lunchtime. I'll reevaluate then.

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine

[Sloonei]

So I wasn't around, nor have I properly caught up on what happened at EoD yesterday. I know someone mentioned there was a red peek on Rej from Mac? What's the story there? Why didn't he get chopped?

I'm going to toss my vote there for now just to be sure I don't miss another vote. I'll try and play tomorrow, at the very least I can play at lunchtime. I'll reevaluate then.

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine

I do not know where you got this, bur your vote is in the right place.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Day vig Chop IMO

I can't, I've already used my shot. The only other role who can dayvig is Metzger, and since that's a hostile 3P I doubt they'll be kind enough to clear our POE for us lol.

Cool, so Alison is prolly Metzger

elaborate

There's only one Slaver role guaranteed, and Alison is assuming that it's Metzger. It's TMI, I'd bet good caps that's her role.

I do not read this as falcon indicating he has information on alison. I read it as him misunderstanding the context of what Alison was saying and then running with it.

The sum of falcon’s interactions come to more than that

[Alison]

Anyway, @staypositivefriend
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

I want to remind you that Alison suggested that if they were in my position they would have fake claimed flavourless VT which is the absolute dumbest thing a town can do.
Scum probably have fake claims and as scum I could have just switched to that instead of hard claiming.

I also said I'd do that and I'm literally and indisputably the best mafia player in the world.

That’s the stupidest thing to do.
As soon as you claim, you die.

Actually what I said was that i wouldn't claim at all.

That was also what I said, just pretend to be a VT and keep your head low.

[Alison]

I would absolutely 100% prefer to have Mac's contributions than Chop's.

[Alison]

If you think the letter wasn't proofread for shit then why do you balk at assuming double incompetence?

[Alison]

Just give us some reads man

I’ve given multiple.
Any specific read/reads you want?

Just a quick summary of any stronger ones would work best for me

Jack - Scum
Falcon - Town
Urist - Lean Town
Jack - Lean Scum
Daisy - Leany Town
EPig - Leany Null Town

What the fuck is leany null town

[Alison]

what exactly was in the message? does mafia use up a message ability night one?

Town messenger does, so mafia messenger does, too.

[Alison]

Just give us some reads man

I’ve given multiple.
Any specific read/reads you want?

Just a quick summary of any stronger ones would work best for me

Jack - Scum
Falcon - Town
Urist - Lean Town
Jack - Lean Scum
Daisy - Leany Town
EPig - Leany Null Town

Reads so wild and wacky they can only be from a town. All ChopChop haters are now mafia.

These are not wacky reads. I've expressed all of these reads at some point in the game except for the read on Epi which is word salad.

The real angleshoot is whether or not listing Jack twice on this list means that Chop is the kind of player to leave out Esooa in the message.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Yes both ways

[Alison]

here are some reads, delivered as promised:

I find this readslist to be thoughtful and insightful. I think you are town.

[Alison]

The problem I keep running into when I think about Chop is that aside from the role stuff, he's still scummy on play. His Day 1 was bad, and his theory that TSP is signalling me beggars belief. He has not provided any reasons for his mess of reads.

[Alison]

Tried playing league again today, second ranked game played against 3 smurfs, 2 were duo and the AD in the duo was grandmaster main account.

He then was shit talking me in all chat.

Why I want to break my laptop when playing video games

That's the worst.

I hope you didn't break your laptop because some conceited grandmaster thought it'd be fun to dunk on you.

oh dw the account just got permabanned after I spent 10 minutes breaking down why he has no life, and how low of a life form he is.

so now I can go back to doing sometihng fun, if that exists

you should not be getting this upset about league of legends

[Kylemii]

what exactly was in the message? does mafia use up a message ability night one?

Town messenger does, so mafia messenger does, too.

to clarify, I'm asking 'would mafia use that power up on night 1'

[KZA]

what exactly was in the message? does mafia use up a message ability night one?

Town messenger does, so mafia messenger does, too.

to clarify, I'm asking 'would mafia use that power up on night 1'

This is a pretty good observation actually

I feel Chop was under enough pressure that if he were Mafia he might consider using the alt ability of the Enclave messaging role

So like nothing strong but I feel okay about Kyle from this post

[KZA]

oh it's a 2 shot

which means Kyle didn't read carefully and neither did I

still I feel like it's a fresh take?

[Alison]

epi has been trending up quite a lot, imo

Yes. Marmot and Sloonei are unaligned and I believe it may well be TvS because it does not seem like a TvT fight.

[Alison]

Are we at least all in agreement that rej is mafia?

Here’s another null for me.

I have allot of Nulls

You have null on Rej? I want to exe you even more.

[Alison]

Has falcon claimed anything? I have reasons to believe he is a baddie

Are you claiming a red check on falcon?

[KZA]

Has falcon claimed anything? I have reasons to believe he is a baddie

Are you claiming a red check on falcon?

think he's claiming 'Falcon better have an alibi' more than anything

[Alison]

I've finished my catchup.

Rej is still mafia. Chop is still mafia. Epignosis improved. Dom was very active Day 1 and vanished Day 2. Grogu is lock town.

[Alison]

Chop's push on TSP is so bad I wonder if they are teammates.

[Urist]

Let's not speculate on Grogu's role until falcon claims.

[Urist]

Actually, on this note: if Rej is bad, he’s Vault City. Enclave is presumably the bigger team, possibly the bigger threat to the collective town factions. If in an ideal world we could choose between eliminating either an Enclave player or a Vault City player, I would prefer to target the Enclave. Chop is presumably Enclave if he is bad.

how did you get to the conclusion that rej is a vaulter?

[Alison]

Actually, on this note: if Rej is bad, he’s Vault City. Enclave is presumably the bigger team, possibly the bigger threat to the collective town factions. If in an ideal world we could choose between eliminating either an Enclave player or a Vault City player, I would prefer to target the Enclave. Chop is presumably Enclave if he is bad.

how did you get to the conclusion that rej is a vaulter?

interactions with esooa

[Gavial]

Has falcon claimed anything? I have reasons to believe he is a baddie

How dare you accuse my Mason buddy!

[Gavial]

Changed my vote to one of the Tony Town readers.
Since people seem to love Tony’s fake shit.

[Gavial]

Or at least Alison and Sloon does.
Not sure about others.

[DaughterOfOmega]

waking up at 8 on your day off

sad

[Gavial]

I've finished my catchup.

Rej is still mafia. Chop is still mafia. Epignosis improved. Dom was very active Day 1 and vanished Day 2. Grogu is lock town.

No I changed.
I’m Serial Killer now with Bat Attack!

[Gavial]

Like unless your read changes you don’t need to say “still (read”

Damn though I am hoping your not Slaver but with how your treating Tony you just might be.
Meaning both the mean gal’s were scum that I blindly TR’ed.

[Gavial]

Alison got online then dipped so they have me worried.

[Gavial]

@falcon45ca
So what’s your exact read on Alison?
You believe they are Slaver right?
Run me through your thought process.

[falcon45ca]

Has falcon claimed anything? I have reasons to believe he is a baddie

Do tell.




Lemme guess, your scum chat has told you I've been calling you out for days now, and you'd better make a soft claim re: his role?



I'm all ears dude. This'll be good

[falcon45ca]

OOOOOO MORE SPICE

Sadly that’s all the spice I got. Your move scum @falcon45ca

Why don't you look at my pushes this past RD, I'm sure you'll be able to figure it out

[Urist]

OOOOOO MORE SPICE

Sadly that’s all the spice I got. Your move scum @falcon45ca

Why don't you look at my pushes this past RD, I'm sure you'll be able to figure it out

grogu is claiming you are 100% guilty, you should just fullclaim.

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca
So what’s your exact read on Alison?
You believe they are Slaver right?
Run me through your thought process.

I believe, rather strongly, that Alison is a Slaver. Since she's claimed to have day vigged C4, that would make her Metzger.

[falcon45ca]

OOOOOO MORE SPICE

Sadly that’s all the spice I got. Your move scum @falcon45ca

Why don't you look at my pushes this past RD, I'm sure you'll be able to figure it out

grogu is claiming you are 100% guilty, you should just fullclaim.

As far as I can see, Grogu hasn't said I'm 100% guilty of. I'd like to hear what he has to say I'm guilty of first.

[Urist]

OOOOOO MORE SPICE

Sadly that’s all the spice I got. Your move scum @falcon45ca

Why don't you look at my pushes this past RD, I'm sure you'll be able to figure it out

grogu is claiming you are 100% guilty, you should just fullclaim.

As far as I can see, Grogu hasn't said I'm 100% guilty of. I'd like to hear what he has to say I'm guilty of first.

would definitely make it easier for you to choose a fakeclaim eh

[Urist]

at the very least you need to claim whom you visited last night @falcon45ca

[falcon45ca]

at the very least you need to claim whom you visited last night @falcon45ca

TSP gets it. I'm pretty sure everyone knows by now, it was Alison.

[falcon45ca]

OOOOOO MORE SPICE

Sadly that’s all the spice I got. Your move scum @falcon45ca

Why don't you look at my pushes this past RD, I'm sure you'll be able to figure it out

grogu is claiming you are 100% guilty, you should just fullclaim.

As far as I can see, Grogu hasn't said I'm 100% guilty of. I'd like to hear what he has to say I'm guilty of first.

would definitely make it easier for you to choose a fakeclaim eh

No, it should be proof that I'm not a Wolf tho.

Slaver, Vault City, and Enclave all have "viable fake character claims", which means I could just fake a claim and know I'd be clear with it...much as Alison has.

[Urist]

at the very least you need to claim whom you visited last night @falcon45ca

TSP gets it. I'm pretty sure everyone knows by now, it was Alison.

you're claiming to have role-copped alison and got the Slaver result?

[Urist]

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine
just going to leave this here for now.

[falcon45ca]

at the very least you need to claim whom you visited last night @falcon45ca

TSP gets it. I'm pretty sure everyone knows by now, it was Alison.

you're claiming to have role-copped alison and got the Slaver result?

So if Grogu knows I visited Alison, why does that make me a baddie in his eyes?

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine
just going to leave this here for now.

This is some smooth brain thinking right here.

[Gavial]

OOOOOO MORE SPICE

Sadly that’s all the spice I got. Your move scum @falcon45ca

Why don't you look at my pushes this past RD, I'm sure you'll be able to figure it out

grogu is claiming you are 100% guilty, you should just fullclaim.

As far as I can see, Grogu hasn't said I'm 100% guilty of. I'd like to hear what he has to say I'm guilty of first.

would definitely make it easier for you to choose a fakeclaim eh

No, it should be proof that I'm not a Wolf tho.

Slaver, Vault City, and Enclave all have "viable fake character claims", which means I could just fake a claim and know I'd be clear with it...much as Alison has.

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine
just going to leave this here for now.

@Urist

No, just vote who you were voting.
I can target Falcon tonight.
If I get a positive result then Alison is confirmed Slaver.
If I get a negative result, Alison isn’t Slaver and Falcon probably lying.

[Gavial]

I should be able to confirm Falcon’s check tonight.
Then we can be real Masons if he Legit.

[Gavial]

Wait was it an investigative target or something else on Alison?
Don’t answer that question, but I’m just trying to think how you might have gotten to your conclusion.
Anyway, I’ll target you tonight and see if Alison really is Slaver or not.

[falcon45ca]

I should be able to confirm Falcon’s check tonight.
Then we can be real Masons if he Legit.

Do it. We'll be Mason pals for life...or at least until the end of this game