Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[Jackofhearts2005]

Also, Dom is likely town and LC’s defense of Dom is fine. Though I haven’t read everything, he’s seemed to have spent exactly as much time on the subject of Dom’s alignment and expressed exactly the same reasoning as Mac and myself.

Like Dom should push elsewhere or find a better reason to push LC.

Where am I pushing, Jack? Do tell.
I don't have a problem with LC's defense of me. Why don't you want LC answering basic questions?

Or was Nanook content with a Rej lynch and wanted to save this until today?

He was on me most of the day Bud.

I was content with either one of you yesterday

I wasn’t purposely saving this for today I just didn’t see that doom had claimed Westin specifically

Ok.
So to review, just so I understand:
--DOOM is claiming Westin
--You didn't see this, just thought it was a rando NCR
--You have info that makes it mechanically impossible that DOOM is Westin

Is that correct?

Maybe wasn’t it you that was wondering why LC cares more about your alignment than the rest of the game?

I took that as a rhetorical question ie an accusation.

[Long Con]

Also, Dom is likely town and LC’s defense of Dom is fine. Though I haven’t read everything, he’s seemed to have spent exactly as much time on the subject of Dom’s alignment and expressed exactly the same reasoning as Mac and myself.

Like Dom should push elsewhere or find a better reason to push LC.

Where am I pushing, Jack? Do tell.
I don't have a problem with LC's defense of me. Why don't you want LC answering basic questions?

Or was Nanook content with a Rej lynch and wanted to save this until today?

He was on me most of the day Bud.

I was content with either one of you yesterday

I wasn’t purposely saving this for today I just didn’t see that doom had claimed Westin specifically

Ok.
So to review, just so I understand:
--DOOM is claiming Westin
--You didn't see this, just thought it was a rando NCR
--You have info that makes it mechanically impossible that DOOM is Westin

Is that correct?

—doom is claiming Westin (apparently prodded by Urist)
—I saw her NCR “softs” but not an explicit name claim
—I have info that makes it mechanically impossible for doom to be Westin

One last point of clarification.
When did you figure out DOOM is claiming Westin?

dom is outed mafia at this point

why?

Like I have him as a candidate but this conversation just seems to be him making snide remarks about DOOM/Nook for having an uppity attitude/not keeping up with the mech claims respectively. It seems mostly NAI to me.

he was gone all day yesterday and has nothing to say? like really?

I did clear this up. Did you miss this?
I literally made catch up post.

There’s a player named dom lol

Yeah, and he's got almost 10,000 posts. Dom's a man from way back.

Again-- the only thing LC is interested in doing is butter me up.

Oh god, the deja vu is real.

Go on.
I just remember you buttering me up as an adept player in my younger years.
It used to work.

I almost feel like I can find this conversation in a game from a year or two ago. I will try.

[Urist]

Okay, so. Here's a wall on why I think Urist Is Suspicious:

I was reading the votes and the context for those votes for people who voted Rej

and honestly without knowing Urist in the past I have to say I think he really didn't care a whole lot for voting Rej and it feels like his votes are throw-away without stating as such

it also feels agenda-y that he comes in here rushing to ask Doom about Alison but then gets or acts frustrated for not knowing Alison's alignment because of them not checking

Reading into his ISO a bit more, he mentions Poison nearly all the time but doesn't really do anything about it

everyone else who voted Rej and their context didn't really give me any bad vibes but Urist's has

Not to mention he did vote Falcon45ca yesterday even though Urist seems to believe (based on his attitude today) that Alison was a good slaver candidate and that Falcon was claiming Alison was evil at that time (IIRC).

and now there's this whole Nanook claiming Westin to CC Doom, and Urist doesn't bring up the whole "why didn't you check Alison n2" question again to Nanook while thinking he's "prob town":

@Urist

How do you feel about Nanook.

I would like your immediate thoughts if possible.

prob town

annnnd he's being all opportunistic over Dom while the shitshow between Nook and Doom being possible CC's is going on, for a role (Westin) I think he was very interested in this whole game:

dom is outed mafia at this point

why?

Like I have him as a candidate but this conversation just seems to be him making snide remarks about DOOM/Nook for having an uppity attitude/not keeping up with the mech claims respectively. It seems mostly NAI to me.

he was gone all day yesterday and has nothing to say? like really?

nanook isn't claiming westin, please read more carefully

[Dom]

so did chop send another message tonight

[Urist]

going to start saying "please read more carefully" as a substitute for something rude

[Dom]

Also, Dom is likely town and LC’s defense of Dom is fine. Though I haven’t read everything, he’s seemed to have spent exactly as much time on the subject of Dom’s alignment and expressed exactly the same reasoning as Mac and myself.

Like Dom should push elsewhere or find a better reason to push LC.

Where am I pushing, Jack? Do tell.
I don't have a problem with LC's defense of me. Why don't you want LC answering basic questions?

Or was Nanook content with a Rej lynch and wanted to save this until today?

He was on me most of the day Bud.

I was content with either one of you yesterday

I wasn’t purposely saving this for today I just didn’t see that doom had claimed Westin specifically

Ok.
So to review, just so I understand:
--DOOM is claiming Westin
--You didn't see this, just thought it was a rando NCR
--You have info that makes it mechanically impossible that DOOM is Westin

Is that correct?

—doom is claiming Westin (apparently prodded by Urist)
—I saw her NCR “softs” but not an explicit name claim
—I have info that makes it mechanically impossible for doom to be Westin

One last point of clarification.
When did you figure out DOOM is claiming Westin?

dom is outed mafia at this point

why?

Like I have him as a candidate but this conversation just seems to be him making snide remarks about DOOM/Nook for having an uppity attitude/not keeping up with the mech claims respectively. It seems mostly NAI to me.

he was gone all day yesterday and has nothing to say? like really?

I did clear this up. Did you miss this?
I literally made catch up post.

There’s a player named dom lol

Yeah, and he's got almost 10,000 posts. Dom's a man from way back.

Again-- the only thing LC is interested in doing is butter me up.

Oh god, the deja vu is real.

Go on.
I just remember you buttering me up as an adept player in my younger years.
It used to work.

I almost feel like I can find this conversation in a game from a year or two ago. I will try.

You could. I don't remember if I was right.
You're a smart guy. A good player. I want you to be your best here.

[Grogu]

@omega come back. Please explain your soft, people think you claimed Westin. Come and confirm

[MartinGG99]

I'm intrigued by Martin's read on urist.
Do they know each other?

I have no prior experience with Urist.

Well, technically I met them in a 50-player game here on U-Pick Vol. 2 back in last year's august but trust me that was 1 month-ish into my mafia career and I really didn't know what I was doing.

[Dom]

going to start saying "please read more carefully" as a substitute for something rude

It's really ironic that you're claiming this as your hill when you didn't read my posts.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Made is replacing @DaughterOfOmega. Please do not publicly discuss replacement actions or decisions. You may still vote for Made. Do so by voting for DaughterOfOmega in the poll. You may call your vote either way (for Made or DaughterOfOmega).

[TonyStarkPrime]

This reminds me Urist do you still think LC is VC

[Dom]

[TonyStarkPrime]

@Made are you a wolf

[Made]

Hi friends, how are we all today?

[MartinGG99]

nanook isn't claiming westin, please read more carefully

Right. And Doom never explicitly claimed Westin.

You still treated them as if they were.

[Urist]

going to start saying "please read more carefully" as a substitute for something rude

It's really ironic that you're claiming this as your hill when you didn't read my posts.

oh i didn't see it, i missed it because it was all in a quote, i'll read it later

[Urist]

This reminds me Urist do you still think LC is VC

not specifically no

[Dom]

going to start saying "please read more carefully" as a substitute for something rude

It's really ironic that you're claiming this as your hill when you didn't read my posts.

oh i didn't see it, i missed it because it was all in a quote, i'll read it later

I also made a couple of posts yesterday. You just "miss" those too?

[Dom]

me rn accepting lc's compliments

[Made]

@Made are you a wolf

yup! at least I think so. bout yourself Tony?

[Urist]

nanook isn't claiming westin, please read more carefully

Right. And Doom never explicitly claimed Westin.

You still treated them as if they were.

I'm just going to say one thing to any of the evil factions. My focus is not killing you, unless you are a New Reno kid. My role is focused on that, and even though I need to kill vault/enclave , no other faction is trying to kill Reno, so it's in my best interest to only push for that at the moment.

this is literally claiming westin.

nanook is claiming "mechanical evidence that omega cannot be westin". for all we know he could be enclave who has westin as a safeclaim.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Dom don't worry the odds of someone claiming mafia / failing to claim town today are increasingly low

this was a terrible take in hindsight

[Made]

Okay, catch me up folks, what'd I do?

[Long Con]

You're a smart guy. A good player. I want you to be your best here.

me rn accepting lc's compliments

...something isn't sitting right here. Whereas you just showered me with compliments, I haven't actually complimented you at all. I said I think your exchange with C4 was towny, and I said you've been around for a while. Those aren't butter-you-up compliments, they're a guess at your alignment and a fact about your history.

[MartinGG99]

nanook isn't claiming westin, please read more carefully

Right. And Doom never explicitly claimed Westin.

You still treated them as if they were.

I'm just going to say one thing to any of the evil factions. My focus is not killing you, unless you are a New Reno kid. My role is focused on that, and even though I need to kill vault/enclave , no other faction is trying to kill Reno, so it's in my best interest to only push for that at the moment.

this is literally claiming westin.

nanook is claiming "mechanical evidence that omega cannot be westin". for all we know he could be enclave who has westin as a safeclaim.

Okay. My search terms missed that.

Sigh. Why do people always have to be fancy.

[Urist]

Okay, catch me up folks, what'd I do?

nanook is calling you caught scum, you need to fullclaim

[MartinGG99]

Well actually she doesn't mention anything about her role.

[MartinGG99]

In that quote. Only her faction.

[MartinGG99]

well she does

[MartinGG99]

nvm my brain is not being proper right now - _ -.

[MartinGG99]

I still feel like part of Urist is fake though. That's what I genuinely felt wrt his d2 actions, and that can't be dismissed just because I misunderstood the whole Urist + Nook + Doom/Made relationship on d3.

[Made]

Okay, catch me up folks, what'd I do?

nanook is calling you caught scum, you need to fullclaim

hi Urist, nice to meet you friend. I'm a bit shy, can we just like not?

[Urist]

Okay, catch me up folks, what'd I do?

nanook is calling you caught scum, you need to fullclaim

hi Urist, nice to meet you friend. I'm a bit shy, can we just like not?

i mean you can just let yourself be executed instead, would be par for the course

[Urist]

going to start saying "please read more carefully" as a substitute for something rude

It's really ironic that you're claiming this as your hill when you didn't read my posts.

oh i didn't see it, i missed it because it was all in a quote, i'll read it later

I also made a couple of posts yesterday. You just "miss" those too?

you made two, and one of them was to say you weren't going to post any more than that lol

[Urist]

I still feel like part of Urist is fake though. That's what I genuinely felt wrt his d2 actions, and that can't be dismissed just because I misunderstood the whole Urist + Nook + Doom/Made relationship on d3.

it's a common complaint

[Made]

Why do I need Alison dead???

[TonyStarkPrime]

Why do I need Alison dead???

this is a question that remains unanswered tbh

[Epignosis]

[Urist]

@Made your predecessor has already claimed for you, you just need to claim your n1 action

[Made]

Okay, catch me up folks, what'd I do?

nanook is calling you caught scum, you need to fullclaim

hi Urist, nice to meet you friend. I'm a bit shy, can we just like not?

i mean you can just let yourself be executed instead, would be par for the course

okay, but like. what if, no

I missed the early game pleasantries, talk with me friend! how's your game been so far?

[Dom]

You're a smart guy. A good player. I want you to be your best here.

me rn accepting lc's compliments

...something isn't sitting right here. Whereas you just showered me with compliments, I haven't actually complimented you at all. I said I think your exchange with C4 was towny, and I said you've been around for a while. Those aren't butter-you-up compliments, they're a guess at your alignment and a fact about your history.

I think we're at a misunderstanding here, then.

going to start saying "please read more carefully" as a substitute for something rude

It's really ironic that you're claiming this as your hill when you didn't read my posts.

oh i didn't see it, i missed it because it was all in a quote, i'll read it later

I also made a couple of posts yesterday. You just "miss" those too?

you made two, and one of them was to say you weren't going to post any more than that lol

And the first explained my absence.
So did you see those posts or not?

[Long Con]

What is the nature of the misunderstanding?

[Urist]

Okay, catch me up folks, what'd I do?

nanook is calling you caught scum, you need to fullclaim

hi Urist, nice to meet you friend. I'm a bit shy, can we just like not?

i mean you can just let yourself be executed instead, would be par for the course

okay, but like. what if, no

I missed the early game pleasantries, talk with me friend! how's your game been so far?

it feels like i've aged 30 years in this past week if that makes any sense

[Dom]

What is the nature of the misunderstanding?

I have viewed your steadfast defense of me as complimentary.
I did a speedread of day 2. The only things I remember from you are steering folks away from me.

[Urist]

@TonyStarkPrime how much do you want to bet that Made flips vt

[Made]

wait, okay so this is a multiball, with multiple civvie factions, but like some aren't civvie?

[MartinGG99]

I still feel like part of Urist is fake though. That's what I genuinely felt wrt his d2 actions, and that can't be dismissed just because I misunderstood the whole Urist + Nook + Doom/Made relationship on d3.

it's a common complaint

Okay. Fine.

*Maybe* I'm wrong on you, given your decent responses and I don't know your level of skill in FM. But I will be watching.

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

[Dom]

What is the nature of the misunderstanding?

I have viewed your steadfast defense of me as complimentary.
I did a speedread of day 2. The only things I remember from you are steering folks away from me.

[Long Con]

What is the nature of the misunderstanding?

I have viewed your steadfast defense of me as complimentary.
I did a speedread of day 2. The only things I remember from you are steering folks away from me.

It's a little weird to equate a townread with a compliment.

[Urist]

And the first explained my absence.
So did you see those posts or not?

yes, they were wholly unmoving