Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[Sloonei]

chop either thinks I'm VC and want town to chop alison so I can win which is why I'm telling town to not worry about alison or thinks I'm enclave and am trying to protect alison by openly claiming she's probably the slaver and that she should be killed and I'm just very confused by this

I don’t know how you would ever come to the conclusion I’d think your Vault City here.

You are like dead obvious Enclave.

if I'm enclave and me and alison formed some sort of secret pact then wouldn't i be telling sloonei that alison is clearly town

Nope, because you want to look good without actually doing anything action wise.

Okay whatever, I cop checked Tony. He's town. Please drop this.

[Sloonei]

Spoiler: show

that was a lie

[TonyStarkPrime]

Spoiler: show

that was a lie

why'd you tell him

[Sloonei]

because i already lied once this game.

[Alison]

this is definitely OMGUS, but I'm getting bad vibes from Urist ngl. Is that vogue or not worth the push?

i think the only thing you should be concentrating on right now is reading your role pm and posting a SUMMARY of what it says you are and what you have done on previous nights

urist lock town

why

[Alison]

[VOTE: Doom] aubergine

[Alison]

@Dom I think your point about how easily he dropped the Urist suspicion is pretty good. I mean, all Urist said was "It's a common complaint".

Feels like it's not a genuinely held feeling.

Feels like he dropped the suspicion way too easily. But is that suspicious in itself? Is it w-w indicative? It might be towny - a wolf would fight harder to hang on to a suspicion they could use if it catches on.

Martin is town and probably afraid he's overthinking his suspicion or proceeding on shaky ground

[Alison]

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

Why

[Alison]

[siren[/siren]

@Sloonei @MacDougall y’alls votes are baddie bait right?

No. Marmot is not town.

You red checked Marmot?

[Alison]

Why are people giving up so easily this game?

Unless something drastic happens my votes for the next 2 or 3 phases are locked in and I believe those flips will inform my view of what to do after so there's no real point hard casing people

Made is mech implicated, you might be mech implicated, Chop is possibly mech implicated and is just super scummy regardless.

Until I see flips I'm just spinning wheels.

[Alison]

idk. order of operations is made fullclaims and then I trust nanook after that but I dunno if there's any claim that ever saves made unless someone can prove to me that omega frequently lies as town for fun

made also refused to fullclaim while staring down the barrel of a red check in a game with no soup kill so yeah

[Alison]

Although I should ask @Alison why it was the optimal play to shoot c4 on Day 1?

because I thought he was a wolf and everyone in the thread thought he was a wolf so I shot him to take him out of the POE. I have to use my daykill asap because I could be nightkilled n1 given my position on d1

Also i have asked chop to explain his signalling tinfoil 3 times now and he's dodged the question so im just assuming he's making it up

[Alison]

I guess sloon did not have a red check on marmot after all

[Dom]

The man has enough posts this game to offer more reads and effort in scumhunting than he has. I see no spark there. Dom's expressed his concern that LC is white-knighing, and I believe that's what's been happnening.

When asked for an actual readr from Dom, we have this.

@Long Con
You've been ardent in your defense of me.
Why such enthusiasm when you haven't really shown much enthusiasm for the game writ large.

It's entirely based on your C4 interaction. That's town Dom, I know by now. I have been where he is more than once.

Sure. Okay.
What about the other half of the question.

Just spread thin between games.

So spread some over here.
Tell me-- set DaughterofOmega aside--

Who's bad?

I would kill... Joseph.

No intention. No spark. He did mention at one point that he's spread thin because of other games, but he has 30+ posts already, so he's certainly had the time to read and pay attention.

This is my exact point.

im just sober enough taht tony the dorky can hurt my feelings

You hurt my feelings when you decided to choose me to fake tunnel.

why have you singled tsp out for tunneling you?

It's almost like he's tunnelling being tunneled.

[Epignosis]

[Long Con]

The man has enough posts this game to offer more reads and effort in scumhunting than he has. I see no spark there. Dom's expressed his concern that LC is white-knighing, and I believe that's what's been happnening.

When asked for an actual readr from Dom, we have this.

@Long Con
You've been ardent in your defense of me.
Why such enthusiasm when you haven't really shown much enthusiasm for the game writ large.

It's entirely based on your C4 interaction. That's town Dom, I know by now. I have been where he is more than once.

Sure. Okay.
What about the other half of the question.

Just spread thin between games.

So spread some over here.
Tell me-- set DaughterofOmega aside--

Who's bad?

I would kill... Joseph.

No intention. No spark. He did mention at one point that he's spread thin because of other games, but he has 30+ posts already, so he's certainly had the time to read and pay attention.

How is this different from the way I play every game? It's well-established that I start off quieter and get more involved in the midgame.

[Long Con]

@Dom I think your point about how easily he dropped the Urist suspicion is pretty good. I mean, all Urist said was "It's a common complaint".

Feels like it's not a genuinely held feeling.

Feels like he dropped the suspicion way too easily. But is that suspicious in itself? Is it w-w indicative? It might be towny - a wolf would fight harder to hang on to a suspicion they could use if it catches on.

Martin posted a case, which LC pulls one snippet out of to question.

Martin eventually drops the case because he doesn't feel certain about it.

Dom calls Martin out for backing down so easily,

LC immediately sheeps Dom's accusation for it.

Did I sheep it? Or did I discuss whether or not it's suspicious, and give a reason why maybe it's towny?

[TonyStarkPrime]

this is definitely OMGUS, but I'm getting bad vibes from Urist ngl. Is that vogue or not worth the push?

i think the only thing you should be concentrating on right now is reading your role pm and posting a SUMMARY of what it says you are and what you have done on previous nights

urist lock town

why

because I laughed.

The emphasis on summary is actually probably town but it could be a very frustrated scum partner I guess

[TonyStarkPrime]

i've been trying to work in this joke

[Gavial]

this is definitely OMGUS, but I'm getting bad vibes from Urist ngl. Is that vogue or not worth the push?

i think the only thing you should be concentrating on right now is reading your role pm and posting a SUMMARY of what it says you are and what you have done on previous nights

urist lock town

why

because I laughed.

The emphasis on summary is actually probably town but it could be a very frustrated scum partner I guess

Second guessing yourself are ye?

[Sloonei]

this is definitely OMGUS, but I'm getting bad vibes from Urist ngl. Is that vogue or not worth the push?

i think the only thing you should be concentrating on right now is reading your role pm and posting a SUMMARY of what it says you are and what you have done on previous nights

urist lock town

why

because I laughed.

The emphasis on summary is actually probably town but it could be a very frustrated scum partner I guess

Second guessing yourself are ye?

Is second-guessing oneself a scumtell?

[Gavial]

If it was I would have ended that sentence with “Scum”.

I’m saying that Tony looks Fake.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Early red peek (or whatever) claim days are boring. Sucks to be Made.

Lmk if anything interesting happens.

[Epignosis]

[KZA]

think KZA softed to have targeted alison n1 @KZA is this true

no

oh and I haven't read anything got pretty busy yesterday I'll catch up soon

[TonyStarkPrime]

I would be a decent target for ChopChop if he's real

:weh:

[Gavial]

KZA did you target Alison?

[KZA]

I would be a decent target for ChopChop if he's real

:weh:

KZA did you target Alison?

why, did you check me?

[Sloonei]

[KZA]

godverdomme

[Spacedaisy]

Stop complaining, how do you think your Semi-Scum Counterpart died?

Did you just slip that you're Enclave and shot Esooa for questioning people too hard?

No?
I am BOS and I was clearly saying “complain” not “questioning”

Just saying that you and Esooa are mean gals that play very similar. As such I feel like if Esooa died due to something resolving around Playstyle I feel like the same could potentially happen towards you.

Esooa was consensus townread.

What makes you think she died because of her playstyle? You think the mafia got annoyed with her constant complaints and shot her?

Espoo was not consensus town read. I felt they were bad and I thought Epi did as well.

[KZA]

okay I caught up to the 20 pages of shitposting and asking mech questions

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

[KZA]

Why is Mac a wagon that's so fucking lazy

[KZA]

MacDougall
5
26%


Voters: Dom, Grogu, Epignosis, Made, Kylemii

boom found the entire Enclave I am GOAT

[KZA]

Whoever blocked Mac should come clean. I have important mech info on this subject

[KZA]

Whoever blocked Mac should come clean. I have important mech info on this subject

***pretty sure I can clear you

[Made]

Hi friends I see y’all are still trying to throw me off a cliff. That’s kinda lame ngl

[Made]

Why is Mac a wagon that's so fucking lazy

Why is the Mac wagon lazy but the “Moom has a mech claim” wagon isn’t? Do you read Mac as town?

[Alison]

Hi friends I see y’all are still trying to throw me off a cliff. That’s kinda lame ngl

there is no reason for you to abstain from full claiming here

[Made]

Are there no threats to town when claiming? I’m just not trying to fuck myself like in Spider-Man. If there’s nothing bad about claiming then why hasn’t everyone (beside scum obviously)

[TonyStarkPrime]

Are there no threats to town when claiming? I’m just not trying to fuck myself like in Spider-Man. If there’s nothing bad about claiming then why hasn’t everyone (beside scum obviously)

honestly full claim might solve the game

but yes no threats to town when claiming

[Made]

Okay, hard claiming New California man. I and doom also haven’t used any night action. Is more info here helpful or is more needed to make things make sense?

[Made]

@Alison , am I supposed to saying you right now? I couldn’t make sense of what was going on there in Doom’s iso

[KZA]

Why is Mac a wagon that's so fucking lazy

Why is the Mac wagon lazy but the “Moom has a mech claim” wagon isn’t? Do you read Mac as town?

Well the first 2 chops were on players not trying very hard and both flipped town so yeah I'm a little concered that the wolves are snatching up mischops in that manner

[Made]

Still trying to wrap my head around mechs, different groups need subsets of pure town dead, but we never need each other dead correct?

[KZA]

Okay, hard claiming New California man. I and doom also haven’t used any night action. Is more info here helpful or is more needed to make things make sense?

okay which New California man

[KZA]

Still trying to wrap my head around mechs, different groups need subsets of pure town dead, but we never need each other dead correct?

Trust me it's better for your brain if you just think of it as all the blue and green teams are town, there's 1 indie role, and 2 mafia teams

[Made]

Why is Mac a wagon that's so fucking lazy

Why is the Mac wagon lazy but the “Moom has a mech claim” wagon isn’t? Do you read Mac as town?

Well the first 2 chops were on players not trying very hard and both flipped town so yeah I'm a little concered that the wolves are snatching up mischops in that manner

Intentionally Miss chop town doesn’t make sense in a multiball tho. Mafia should want mafia dead above all else as they pose a threat to each other’s win cons.

[KZA]

Why is Mac a wagon that's so fucking lazy

Why is the Mac wagon lazy but the “Moom has a mech claim” wagon isn’t? Do you read Mac as town?

Well the first 2 chops were on players not trying very hard and both flipped town so yeah I'm a little concered that the wolves are snatching up mischops in that manner

Intentionally Miss chop town doesn’t make sense in a multiball tho. Mafia should want mafia dead above all else as they pose a threat to each other’s win cons.

I disagree I think the wolves would think "anyone but us" is a good chop

And I don't know what this argument will accomplish so I'm dropping it

[Made]

Okay so I’m black guy from high school musical who likes to bake

Now what happens?