Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[Long Con]

Also, can someone please tell me if they targeted Alison cause I like really want to stop Alison from getting their Slaver win.

I did not target Alison.

Your snarky responses are not making me feel better about your alignment.

I'm not responsible for your feelings. This isn't a good method of finding my alignment.

Ok, what is a good way of determining alignment?

I don't know, my job as either alignment is to make it difficult for you.

Cool.

You still get a scumread from me.

That's better.

I don't think I have memory of LC ever being this antagonistic, regardless of alignment.
w/t or w1/w2. I don't think there's a world where this is a teammate convo

Oh, I have been.

[MacDougall]

I did target Alison @ChopChop.

Now what?

[Sloonei]

I did target Alison @ChopChop.

Now what?

Were you blocked?

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: Madeofomega] aubergine

[MacDougall]

I did target Alison @ChopChop.

Now what?

Were you blocked?

I already said that I was blocked.

[Gavial]

Although I should ask @Alison why it was the optimal play to shoot c4 on Day 1?

because I thought he was a wolf and everyone in the thread thought he was a wolf so I shot him to take him out of the POE. I have to use my daykill asap because I could be nightkilled n1 given my position on d1

Also i have asked chop to explain his signalling tinfoil 3 times now and he's dodged the question so im just assuming he's making it up

Let’s try this game:
[VOTE: Chopchop] aubergine

Hi! Can you stop dodging this please?

forgot the @ChopChop

@Alison
There’s 101 posts, I ain’t going back to find the entire signalling but it was a soft signal and I know you did it with Tony by that weird way of Scum Reading them.

Like some other stuff you said didn’t feel right with me and felt like you were trying to see if Tony is on your team or not.

@Made
Read the thread or GTFO.

[Gavial]

I did target Alison @ChopChop.

Now what?

I’ll target you tonight.

[MacDougall]

I did target Alison @ChopChop.

Now what?

I’ll target you tonight.

And then what?

[Gavial]

I did target Alison @ChopChop.

Now what?

Were you blocked?

I already said that I was blocked.

And the same night you went to target Alison?
Or the other one?

[MacDougall]

I did target Alison @ChopChop.

Now what?

Were you blocked?

I already said that I was blocked.

And the same night you went to target Alison?
Or the other one?

The night I went to Alison.

The previous night I don't believe I was blocked.

[MacDougall]

So you're going to target me and confirm I targeted a Slaver in order to do what?

[Gavial]

I did target Alison @ChopChop.

Now what?

I’ll target you tonight.

And then what?

Well assuming you targeted Alison without getting RB’ed, I can tell everyone if Alison is Slaver or Not.

[Gavial]

So you're going to target me and confirm I targeted a Slaver in order to do what?

To tell everyone that they are Slaver and stop trying to hug the Damn slaver!

[Gavial]

I did target Alison @ChopChop.

Now what?

Were you blocked?

I already said that I was blocked.

And the same night you went to target Alison?
Or the other one?

The night I went to Alison.

The previous night I don't believe I was blocked.

Well then I don’t know if targeted you will work.
I’ll have to ask host if it still works if they are RB’ed.

[Gavial]

But I think RB stops Visit.

[MacDougall]

Alison is not gonna survive this game at this rate so all this conjecture about her being slaver or not is invariably going to be solved via her flip.

[MacDougall]

But I do believe Chopdog's claim.

Thing is I also kinda not feeling the Made wagon. And KZA went from saying he could clear me to voting for me for no apparent reason so imma vote there.

[Gavial]

I mean I believe your town here so I’ll take a gamble and sheep you.

[Gavial]

Made already has the votes anyway.

[MacDougall]

I could be persuaded to vote for lots of folks tho. I struggle to actually find a viable townread here.

[MacDougall]

Ironically Chop is probably my top town now.

[MacDougall]

LC/Marmot is also always at least 1 mafia based on their interactions. Marmot feels mildly townier.

I still think Sloonei is likely just a hit which means Epi is probs town.

I think Dom maybe town.

I'd take Martin and Daisy as townish with a gun to me.

Dunno how to feel about Urist. Sometimes he feels wolfy but he's also caring more than most about this game so I wanna just ignore that.

Nanook ... town for no apparent reason.

TSP, LC, Jack, Kyle or something?

[KZA]

But I do believe Chopdog's claim.

Thing is I also kinda not feeling the Made wagon. And KZA went from saying he could clear me to voting for me for no apparent reason so imma vote there.

that was just low level bait tbh I'm not ending the day on you

[Sloonei]

I did target Alison @ChopChop.

Now what?

Were you blocked?

I already said that I was blocked.

I meant on the night you targeted Alison. Because that would seem to nullify Chop’s plan yet again.

[Sloonei]

I’m also just gonna reiterate that this game is designed specifically to deter mechanical solving. I think we're heading toward a big bag of frustration of we continue to try to win the game purely on mechanical information. We should be applying mech info to reads that exist on players. It does not feel like that is happening.

I am not currently helping in this arena. Oh well.

[KZA]

@ChopChop exactly what faction is Tony if Alison is slaver and "signalling" to him

[KZA]

@Alison
There’s 101 posts, I ain’t going back to find the entire signalling but it was a soft signal and I know you did it with Tony by that weird way of Scum Reading them.

Although I should ask @Alison why it was the optimal play to shoot c4 on Day 1?

because I thought he was a wolf and everyone in the thread thought he was a wolf so I shot him to take him out of the POE. I have to use my daykill asap because I could be nightkilled n1 given my position on d1

Also i have asked chop to explain his signalling tinfoil 3 times now and he's dodged the question so im just assuming he's making it up

Let’s try this game:
[VOTE: Chopchop] aubergine

Hi! Can you stop dodging this please?

forgot the @ChopChop

@Alison
There’s 101 posts, I ain’t going back to find the entire signalling but it was a soft signal and I know you did it with Tony by that weird way of Scum Reading them.

Like some other stuff you said didn’t feel right with me and felt like you were trying to see if Tony is on your team or not.

@Made
Read the thread or GTFO.

Can you also elaborate why you refuse to read the thread to find these "signals" but tell people to fuck off and read the thread when they ask you a question?

[Made]

Although I should ask @Alison why it was the optimal play to shoot c4 on Day 1?

because I thought he was a wolf and everyone in the thread thought he was a wolf so I shot him to take him out of the POE. I have to use my daykill asap because I could be nightkilled n1 given my position on d1

Also i have asked chop to explain his signalling tinfoil 3 times now and he's dodged the question so im just assuming he's making it up

Let’s try this game:
[VOTE: Chopchop] aubergine

Hi! Can you stop dodging this please?

forgot the @ChopChop

@Alison
There’s 101 posts, I ain’t going back to find the entire signalling but it was a soft signal and I know you did it with Tony by that weird way of Scum Reading them.

Like some other stuff you said didn’t feel right with me and felt like you were trying to see if Tony is on your team or not.

@Made
Read the thread or GTFO.

[KZA]

[VOTE: ChopChop] aubergine

[KZA]

Chop also put out feelers for a Grogu wagon by claiming that Grogu and Made are teammates

Yet now he's voting me because suddenly he's decided to sheep Mac instead

okay

[Marmot]

I’m also just gonna reiterate that this game is designed specifically to deter mechanical solving. I think we're heading toward a big bag of frustration of we continue to try to win the game purely on mechanical information. We should be applying mech info to reads that exist on players. It does not feel like that is happening.

I am not currently helping in this arena. Oh well.

Can we yeet LC then?

[MacDougall]

I’m also just gonna reiterate that this game is designed specifically to deter mechanical solving. I think we're heading toward a big bag of frustration of we continue to try to win the game purely on mechanical information. We should be applying mech info to reads that exist on players. It does not feel like that is happening.

I am not currently helping in this arena. Oh well.

Can we yeet LC then?

I would

[KZA]

Like I'm pretty sure Chop is just banging this slaver drum over and over to waste time and stay alive and try to make his Brotherhood of Steel claim look legit

[Marmot]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

[Marmot]

Like I'm pretty sure Chop is just banging this slaver drum over and over to waste time and stay alive and try to make his Brotherhood of Steel claim look legit

He's doing more than that, but I don't disagree.

[Made]

@MacDougall why is there always a baddie between Marmot and LC?

[Marmot]

@MacDougall why is there always a baddie between Marmot and LC?

This is a good take, but Mac does tend to speak in absolutes.

[KZA]

@MacDougall why is there always a baddie between Marmot and LC?

This is a good take, but Mac does tend to speak in absolutes.

yes

Will you move your vote to a more pertinent wagon if LC doesn't take off?

[KZA]

@MacDougall why is there always a baddie between Marmot and LC?

have you formulated any reads

[Sloonei]

@MacDougall why is there always a baddie between Marmot and LC?

This is a good take, but Mac does tend to speak in absolutes.

[Marmot]

@MacDougall why is there always a baddie between Marmot and LC?

This is a good take, but Mac does tend to speak in absolutes.

yes

Will you move your vote to a more pertinent wagon if LC doesn't take off?

I will, and it'll probably be to Made/Omega

[KZA]

Works for me

[Made]

@MacDougall why is there always a baddie between Marmot and LC?

have you formulated any reads

I have yes, but i kinda wanna here Mac on this point before I voice them

[Sloonei]

@MacDougall why is there always a baddie between Marmot and LC?

have you formulated any reads

I have yes, but i kinda wanna here Mac on this point before I voice them

Day ends in 40 minutes

[KZA]

@Urist what's going on here

[Marmot]

@Urist @Spacedaisy @Poison come make some votes and things!

[Marmot]

Let's flash-wagon Long Con. He's most certainly a wolf.

[Made]

Okay, I agree LC/Marmot feels awkward, both feel pushier than I'm use to seeing. I'm reminded of a video mafia game with Marmot where he got uncharacteristically agro while scum, and I could see that bleding in here, but his push on LC feel genuine which makes me think i'm wrong on exactly one of them ( which is why i wanted to here if mac got to the same conclusion or a similar one because...)
Mac is playing like he's scum attempting to play to his meta. I'd want to see more there before voting there, but a good place to look day 4
Chop feel manic but in a towny way. I see a why they're pushing alison so hard, and why no one in thread seems to be taking the carrot on that one, but the alignment who hates who table make that messy.
Sloonei is playing a Q/A game that reminds me of his play in christmas so I'm leaning town there
Pretty null on KZA off the top
Dom is probably scum, but I don't see energy there, so also probably a no go today

but yeah, i'm cool with a LC axe
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

[Urist]

Let's flash-wagon Long Con. He's most certainly a wolf.

No

[Urist]

My vote is cursed, i've decided i'm not using it anymore