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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:26 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:22 pm
Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:18 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.

Why are we voting Ted?
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the really annoying thing for me is gth you're town (unless ted is scum, which i don't think is the case.)
let's play a game. If i'm town, who's bad
If you're town, then I'd suspect Marmot.

The only read I agree with him on is you. I town read falcon as mentioned and I also think Urist has been slightly townie as well, so that would be an instant :suspish:
huh, yeah dope, ur town. Marmot is playing how i'd expect a bad player to play this early. He's developing a towncore that includes himself and probably at least a teammate.
What are you thoughts on Kyle and Epi? I'm not well read enough there, but GTH, there's a scum between the two
weird you mention kyle and epi and not me? i am his mason partner.
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:19 pm
tedxtr wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:14 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum
i actually thought he was one of few people to have a villagery read on me, can you elaborate?
35 posts of mostly filler, and questions that didn't really go anywhere. Felt like low-effort posts to blend in.
you have no thoughts on his read of me?
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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tedxtr wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:31 pm also pretty weird post saying "why are we voting ted?" when a person finally reading the thread should weigh in with a better opinion, like he disagrees with the push or agrees with it, etc.

maybe it's his weird way of saying he doesn't think i'm a wolf though
Maybe. I'd much rather see him giving his opinion of you in his own words.
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:29 pm
tedxtr wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:28 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:04 pm
tedxtr wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:32 pm anyway, go read jpic's iso
His ISO is not very meaty. He's disdainful of mech discussion, which is towny, and wants to get down to some mountainous play... but is "disengaged", like dunya said. His disengagement from the reads and the rules looks all right though. He doesn't make me suspicious for the most part. Kind of dislike the "oh, as if I'm scum asking for Cliffs" line, that's the worst thing I have to say about him.

What's your take on it?
the posts i've quoted where he interacted with people (actually think it was like one person or two at most) are just generally awkward wolfish posts

and afaict he has no villagery posts still

what do you think about the dichotomy of him asking to get cliff'd each time he got back in thread and having no pushes and your thoughts about him being townie for "wanting to get down to some mountainous play" even though it doesn't show?
Hi Ted, if Jpic is town, who is scum from your pov?
hk maybe, but my d1 accuracy is not that great when the entire thread is tunneling me

i'll probably have an updated view of the game by next day phase if i'm kept alive
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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dunya wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:33 pm
Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:26 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:22 pm
Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:18 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.

Why are we voting Ted?
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the really annoying thing for me is gth you're town (unless ted is scum, which i don't think is the case.)
let's play a game. If i'm town, who's bad
If you're town, then I'd suspect Marmot.

The only read I agree with him on is you. I town read falcon as mentioned and I also think Urist has been slightly townie as well, so that would be an instant :suspish:
huh, yeah dope, ur town. Marmot is playing how i'd expect a bad player to play this early. He's developing a towncore that includes himself and probably at least a teammate.
What are you thoughts on Kyle and Epi? I'm not well read enough there, but GTH, there's a scum between the two
weird you mention kyle and epi and not me? i am his mason partner.
Kyle's, not epi's right?
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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dunya wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:34 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:33 pm dunya, wanna be my mason partner?
i mean, we're in it together till death do us apart so....yes??????? :cloud9:
Checked your iso and found this....thoughts on marmot potentially trying to pocket you?
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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Marmot wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:15 pm Why do you townread Urist? Also MacDougall? Mac's content puts him firmly in null territory for me. If anything, I'd drop him slightly because the one interaction we had earlier felt extremely lackluster, but I'm writing it off as he's just not into the game yet.
iirc, you townread urist too, and it was a good town read that i liked from you. why did that drop?

i feel urist is very comfortable in the thread and throws reads out with ease. he is pushing people in the right places. many times i wanted to ask someone for clarification or a stance, only to find that he's already poked his nose there. you can say we have mindmelded several times and i just feel he's playing loose and unrestrained, and his questions have value.

re mac: cos wolf mac wouldn't >usually< let me take control of any narratives d1 (this isn't a truth tell by any means, mac is the best wolf player i know without exception). i will tinfoil him at some point if he's town, and yeet him later if he's mafia, but he's sheeping me now and i don't feel like he has any agenda. basically, feels more like a lost sheep than someone with teammates (sorry).
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:39 pm
dunya wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:34 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:33 pm dunya, wanna be my mason partner?
i mean, we're in it together till death do us apart so....yes??????? :cloud9:
Checked your iso and found this....thoughts on marmot potentially trying to pocket you?
nah he's not just offlimits for d1, he's currently my strongest town read.

(i maybe belong in his pocket)
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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Moving ted from locked town to lean town. I see ways he could be bad, but I still doubt it.
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:44 pm Moving ted from locked town to lean town. I see ways he could be bad, but I still doubt it.
can you reply to my ping btw
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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on catchup, seeing LC reference my "disengaged" comment on jpic made me realize i dont think i got his reply to my question.
Justplayingitcool wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:13 pm
dunya wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:09 pm jpic, you seem a little disengaged

do you have any town reads? leans? scum reads? leans?

shit, i forgot about you 100 post limit. i will have to be careful to be able to post tomorrow as well.
wdym by disengaged?

I have a weird townread on marmot for wanting people to scumread him. Falcon is playing balls to the wall which I like. I have zero scumreads at the moment, but I have barely read the thread.
disengaged like you're not entering the thread with both feet, but just slightly dipping your big toe to test the waters and retreating.

who are your scumleans at this point. preferably at least 3.
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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cmon dunya, just hop into my pocket

you know i'm a villager because if i were a wolf, you'd already be in my pocket, no doubt
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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can you not identify my pure toan
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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tedxtr wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:49 pm cmon dunya, just hop into my pocket

you know i'm a villager because if i were a wolf, you'd already be in my pocket, no doubt
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:12 pm
tedxtr wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:21 pm
Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:31 am *ahem* I feel like Ted is town. It's weird to argue that you should give mana to POE. That's really hard argument to make. It might be right (It's what I'm doing with my mana), but like making that argument as scum so clearly benefits scum who can't escape PoE.
@Made can you explain this thing again?
sure, basically, Ted is scummy in a way a wolf wouldn't choose to be scummy, even if open wolfing. Like open wolfing is like lolcatting and like "yeah, me and todd are teammates" stuff. I think he's town because I don't see a scum Ted being this carelessly scummy and seemingly unaware.

Where is everyone on falcon. I still think he might be a hit
Thought i was going crazy for a second when i couldn't find this either. here ya go @tedxtr. Before I went to look for it again tho I said it again in different words:

I think that giving mana to POE (carefully) is optimal in dodging fool, but it's not the kind of argument I would of made in a billion years cuz i'm not trying to die d1. Given, I'm town, but i'd assume scum would be even more careful not to die D1
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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wat

idgi but you've made the first town read on me anyway, so achievement unlocked : you pocketed me

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gonna go make a sammich and go to sleep, if you decide to yeet me then godspeed with the game and have funsies
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everyone who suspects me is mafia being opportunistic, and everyone who trusts me is mafia working with tmi, :keys:
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Kylemii wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:58 pm everyone who suspects me is mafia being opportunistic, and everyone who trusts me is mafia working with tmi, :keys:
I kinda agree tbh :haha:

players who percieve kyle are sus
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anyone with a neutral opinion of me is also mafia afraid to take a stance, anyone who doesn't fit into any of those categories is.... in a second discrete mafia.
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I'm obvs joking with hyperbole but whenever someone comes at me with like any sort of opinion on day one my inner voice says "yeah you would say that you sneaky sneaky devil"

it's never rational
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:26 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:22 pm
Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:18 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.

Why are we voting Ted?
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the really annoying thing for me is gth you're town (unless ted is scum, which i don't think is the case.)
let's play a game. If i'm town, who's bad
If you're town, then I'd suspect Marmot.

The only read I agree with him on is you. I town read falcon as mentioned and I also think Urist has been slightly townie as well, so that would be an instant :suspish:
huh, yeah dope, ur town. Marmot is playing how i'd expect a bad player to play this early. He's developing a towncore that includes himself and probably at least a teammate.
What are you thoughts on Kyle and Epi? I'm not well read enough there, but GTH, there's a scum between the two
Null on Epi

I think kyle is wolfy for having so many posts but not a lot of content. basically, I'd shoot kyle of the two
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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falcon45ca wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:34 am Did I miss something, esooa is playing this game?
I'm here but I've not really wanted to participate in thread too much

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lol, why did essoa claim sock?
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tedxtr wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:31 pm also pretty weird post saying "why are we voting ted?" when a person finally reading the thread should weigh in with a better opinion, like he disagrees with the push or agrees with it, etc.

maybe it's his weird way of saying he doesn't think i'm a wolf though
I asked because I saw you were leading the wagon and I couldn't work out what it was about
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ayyy

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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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tedxtr wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:34 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:19 pm
tedxtr wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:14 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum
i actually thought he was one of few people to have a villagery read on me, can you elaborate?
35 posts of mostly filler, and questions that didn't really go anywhere. Felt like low-effort posts to blend in.
you have no thoughts on his read of me?
No, because I didn't understand a single thing he was talking about. I switched off from the mana talk
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 0

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tedxtr wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:36 am so, the LC thing...

@Urist
Long Con wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:29 pm
tedxtr wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:15 am so punish the fool seems like a pretty punishing ability for our team.

the best we can probably do is to make scum play whack-a-mole. we all need mana for something...

fix suggestion : everyone should ask for the mana they need (and that's it - just ask for the mana, don't say what it's for or that it needs priority, etc etc), irregardless of how good or bad their ability is.

loop holes : the mafia will target strong people this way, so we're a bit forced to spread the cards to someone they don't need dead. (PoEish targets that can reasonably be town)

my instinct is to say that 3 mana is a bit tough to gather? so let's not try to get caught up in an ability that takes quite a bit to use anyway.

thoughts / concerns about this?
I don't think that 3 mana is tough to gather. I can produce that much mana in a night. I don't know how many lands you have, but I have three. If that's standard, then this is probably somewhere near equivalent to a wolf giving up their personal ability in order to use Punish The Fool.
at first i looked at this and it was fine, you can tell, however, that he didn't really seemed suspicious of my post, because he didn't ask me any questions, etc etc.
Long Con wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:38 pm
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Long Con wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:29 pm
tedxtr wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:15 am so punish the fool seems like a pretty punishing ability for our team.

the best we can probably do is to make scum play whack-a-mole. we all need mana for something...

fix suggestion : everyone should ask for the mana they need (and that's it - just ask for the mana, don't say what it's for or that it needs priority, etc etc), irregardless of how good or bad their ability is.

loop holes : the mafia will target strong people this way, so we're a bit forced to spread the cards to someone they don't need dead. (PoEish targets that can reasonably be town)

my instinct is to say that 3 mana is a bit tough to gather? so let's not try to get caught up in an ability that takes quite a bit to use anyway.

thoughts / concerns about this?
I don't think that 3 mana is tough to gather. I can produce that much mana in a night. I don't know how many lands you have, but I have three. If that's standard, then this is probably somewhere near equivalent to a wolf giving up their personal ability in order to use Punish The Fool.
Actually, this kind of reads like ted is a wolf with 3 lands who thinks that townies start with fewer.
Why would a townie ever say "3 mana is a bit tough to gather" here?
When I read it with the idea that it "reads like ted is a wolf", tow things jump out at me. One, his use of "instinct" feels wild and wolfy... but that's just for laughs. Two, more serious, he's casually downplaying the concern about this ability.
this is where my misunderstanding came into play, i thought this post was saying that he looked through the scope of me being wolf and could see some things, but he wasn't like "i believe this post is a wolf". my brain somehow thought this post was actually refuting your arguments somehow (i have no effin idea, my reading comprehension must've been that poor)
Long Con wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:52 pm
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Long Con wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:38 pm
Urist wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:34 pm
Long Con wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:29 pm
tedxtr wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:15 am so punish the fool seems like a pretty punishing ability for our team.

the best we can probably do is to make scum play whack-a-mole. we all need mana for something...

fix suggestion : everyone should ask for the mana they need (and that's it - just ask for the mana, don't say what it's for or that it needs priority, etc etc), irregardless of how good or bad their ability is.

loop holes : the mafia will target strong people this way, so we're a bit forced to spread the cards to someone they don't need dead. (PoEish targets that can reasonably be town)

my instinct is to say that 3 mana is a bit tough to gather? so let's not try to get caught up in an ability that takes quite a bit to use anyway.

thoughts / concerns about this?
I don't think that 3 mana is tough to gather. I can produce that much mana in a night. I don't know how many lands you have, but I have three. If that's standard, then this is probably somewhere near equivalent to a wolf giving up their personal ability in order to use Punish The Fool.
Actually, this kind of reads like ted is a wolf with 3 lands who thinks that townies start with fewer.
Why would a townie ever say "3 mana is a bit tough to gather" here?
When I read it with the idea that it "reads like ted is a wolf", tow things jump out at me. One, his use of "instinct" feels wild and wolfy... but that's just for laughs. Two, more serious, he's casually downplaying the concern about this ability.
so then, when you started biting more, i thought he was throwing logs in the fire that you created while not thinking about my alignment too much

in that post ^ because i don't think he was necessarily wolf reading me

and then in this one

Also, "for our team" lol
guy reads like a middle manager trying to be one of the bois
Or "hello fellow townies".
and this is the post that made me vote him, because he's not said i'm a wolf for anything but tried to pace your world view in this post as well as the other and make you more tunneled without saying much by himself, if he had a genuine suspicion i think it would've been seen in his first post commenting on my post...
Alright, fair enough, I don't get why you're still voting for LC as of this post though I see that you vote for hk later this morning. I'm fine with that vote from you. Thank you for putting the effort in.
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:37 pm
dunya wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:33 pm
Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:26 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:22 pm
Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:18 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.

Why are we voting Ted?
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the really annoying thing for me is gth you're town (unless ted is scum, which i don't think is the case.)
let's play a game. If i'm town, who's bad
If you're town, then I'd suspect Marmot.

The only read I agree with him on is you. I town read falcon as mentioned and I also think Urist has been slightly townie as well, so that would be an instant :suspish:
huh, yeah dope, ur town. Marmot is playing how i'd expect a bad player to play this early. He's developing a towncore that includes himself and probably at least a teammate.
What are you thoughts on Kyle and Epi? I'm not well read enough there, but GTH, there's a scum between the two
weird you mention kyle and epi and not me? i am his mason partner.
Kyle's, not epi's right?
marmot's!

also esooa getting town cred from just stating facts:
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dunya wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:49 pm on catchup, seeing LC reference my "disengaged" comment on jpic made me realize i dont think i got his reply to my question.
Justplayingitcool wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:13 pm
dunya wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:09 pm jpic, you seem a little disengaged

do you have any town reads? leans? scum reads? leans?

shit, i forgot about you 100 post limit. i will have to be careful to be able to post tomorrow as well.
wdym by disengaged?

I have a weird townread on marmot for wanting people to scumread him. Falcon is playing balls to the wall which I like. I have zero scumreads at the moment, but I have barely read the thread.
disengaged like you're not entering the thread with both feet, but just slightly dipping your big toe to test the waters and retreating.

who are your scumleans at this point. preferably at least 3.
Made, wilgy and kyle
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:53 pm
Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:12 pm
tedxtr wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:21 pm
Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:31 am *ahem* I feel like Ted is town. It's weird to argue that you should give mana to POE. That's really hard argument to make. It might be right (It's what I'm doing with my mana), but like making that argument as scum so clearly benefits scum who can't escape PoE.
@Made can you explain this thing again?
sure, basically, Ted is scummy in a way a wolf wouldn't choose to be scummy, even if open wolfing. Like open wolfing is like lolcatting and like "yeah, me and todd are teammates" stuff. I think he's town because I don't see a scum Ted being this carelessly scummy and seemingly unaware.

Where is everyone on falcon. I still think he might be a hit
Thought i was going crazy for a second when i couldn't find this either. here ya go @tedxtr. Before I went to look for it again tho I said it again in different words:

I think that giving mana to POE (carefully) is optimal in dodging fool, but it's not the kind of argument I would of made in a billion years cuz i'm not trying to die d1. Given, I'm town, but i'd assume scum would be even more careful not to die D1
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"Town would never play like that cuz its not towny, and wolves wouldn't play like that cuz its not towny"
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dunya I have as town for her post about understanding how people town read guillo in spider verse

feels like she came to this thought by actually trying to read guillo

ted I don't really care about the "slip" thing. I disagree with that point but there's a few fine ones

marmot feels off and I wouldn't mind lynching him

falcon is pretty obviously town and he's been getting scum read by people for the worst reasons

I'm honestly not even gonna bother trying to read guillo

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Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:17 pm
dunya wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:49 pm on catchup, seeing LC reference my "disengaged" comment on jpic made me realize i dont think i got his reply to my question.
Justplayingitcool wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:13 pm
dunya wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:09 pm jpic, you seem a little disengaged

do you have any town reads? leans? scum reads? leans?

shit, i forgot about you 100 post limit. i will have to be careful to be able to post tomorrow as well.
wdym by disengaged?

I have a weird townread on marmot for wanting people to scumread him. Falcon is playing balls to the wall which I like. I have zero scumreads at the moment, but I have barely read the thread.
disengaged like you're not entering the thread with both feet, but just slightly dipping your big toe to test the waters and retreating.

who are your scumleans at this point. preferably at least 3.
Made, wilgy and kyle
if im wrong on made i'd yeet marmot
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Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.

Why are we voting Ted?
the Kyle point here is legitimate but I don't know if it's really AI for Kyle
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falcon45ca wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:18 pm
Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:53 pm
Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:12 pm
tedxtr wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:21 pm
Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:31 am *ahem* I feel like Ted is town. It's weird to argue that you should give mana to POE. That's really hard argument to make. It might be right (It's what I'm doing with my mana), but like making that argument as scum so clearly benefits scum who can't escape PoE.
@Made can you explain this thing again?
sure, basically, Ted is scummy in a way a wolf wouldn't choose to be scummy, even if open wolfing. Like open wolfing is like lolcatting and like "yeah, me and todd are teammates" stuff. I think he's town because I don't see a scum Ted being this carelessly scummy and seemingly unaware.

Where is everyone on falcon. I still think he might be a hit
Thought i was going crazy for a second when i couldn't find this either. here ya go @tedxtr. Before I went to look for it again tho I said it again in different words:

I think that giving mana to POE (carefully) is optimal in dodging fool, but it's not the kind of argument I would of made in a billion years cuz i'm not trying to die d1. Given, I'm town, but i'd assume scum would be even more careful not to die D1
Huh?


"Town would never play like that cuz its not towny, and wolves wouldn't play like that cuz its not towny"
it's suboptimal in a way mafia would avoid, and town wouldnt over think
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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lc town read
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Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:23 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:22 pm
Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:21 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:14 pm Right now I wouldn't yeet Marmot, dunya, Guillo, Kylemii, JPIC off the top of my head. I have to review why the votes on ted are there. I'm voting Made right now because I didn't trust his falcon vote reasoning, and he was trying to give his mana away. Either alignment would know that we already discussed the danger of that if they were reading the thread. Made clearly wasn't reading the thread, and may have been trying to set up Pity The Fool. [VOTE: Made] aubergine

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do you really think mafia would be giving their mana out to civilians to kill them when they have more efficient means to do so?

If you do think mafia would, do you think they would tell thread?
Not if they were paying attention.
I read baddie chat when i'm scum. Regardless, giving mana isn't a bad idea if you don't tell people who your giving it to, as well as don't telegraph who you're giving it to

(which is why i'm planning to keep my town reads close to chest this game)
I'm struggling to wrap my head around why I'd want to give out mana currently anyways?
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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Marmot wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:38 am New players, same colours

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Not a big fan of this, and not only because I'm near the bottom. I think you're TMIing ted, I don't understand why Epi, Guillotine, Wilgy are town reads for you, I don't understand how you don't have a read on hk, and I think Made is an easy target.
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:20 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:17 pm
dunya wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:49 pm on catchup, seeing LC reference my "disengaged" comment on jpic made me realize i dont think i got his reply to my question.
Justplayingitcool wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:13 pm
dunya wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:09 pm jpic, you seem a little disengaged

do you have any town reads? leans? scum reads? leans?

shit, i forgot about you 100 post limit. i will have to be careful to be able to post tomorrow as well.
wdym by disengaged?

I have a weird townread on marmot for wanting people to scumread him. Falcon is playing balls to the wall which I like. I have zero scumreads at the moment, but I have barely read the thread.
disengaged like you're not entering the thread with both feet, but just slightly dipping your big toe to test the waters and retreating.

who are your scumleans at this point. preferably at least 3.
Made, wilgy and kyle
if im wrong on made i'd yeet marmot
I think that we should yeet marmot first.
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@Kylemii @Epignosis @Made Why are y'all on Falcon? Like I really really don't think he's a hit.
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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Nicol Bolas wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:18 pm dunya I have as town for her post about understanding how people town read guillo in spider verse

feels like she came to this thought by actually trying to read guillo

ted I don't really care about the "slip" thing. I disagree with that point but there's a few fine ones

marmot feels off and I wouldn't mind lynching him

falcon is pretty obviously town and he's been getting scum read by people for the worst reasons

I'm honestly not even gonna bother trying to read guillo

urist is towny
I agree with you falcon. He's my top town read so far.

how does one read guillo?
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tedxtr wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:35 pm
Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:29 pm
tedxtr wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:28 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:04 pm
tedxtr wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:32 pm anyway, go read jpic's iso
His ISO is not very meaty. He's disdainful of mech discussion, which is towny, and wants to get down to some mountainous play... but is "disengaged", like dunya said. His disengagement from the reads and the rules looks all right though. He doesn't make me suspicious for the most part. Kind of dislike the "oh, as if I'm scum asking for Cliffs" line, that's the worst thing I have to say about him.

What's your take on it?
the posts i've quoted where he interacted with people (actually think it was like one person or two at most) are just generally awkward wolfish posts

and afaict he has no villagery posts still

what do you think about the dichotomy of him asking to get cliff'd each time he got back in thread and having no pushes and your thoughts about him being townie for "wanting to get down to some mountainous play" even though it doesn't show?
Hi Ted, if Jpic is town, who is scum from your pov?
hk maybe, but my d1 accuracy is not that great when the entire thread is tunneling me

i'll probably have an updated view of the game by next day phase if i'm kept alive
Wow, that's a hedge if I've ever seen one.
"HK is a wolf probably, but like there's too much pressure b/c everyone is tunneling me" except that like two pages ago you said I was a wolf for pursuing you, so am I tunneled town or am I wolf? I can't figure out what your actual read on me is
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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hollowkatt wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:23 pm
Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:23 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:22 pm
Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:21 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:14 pm Right now I wouldn't yeet Marmot, dunya, Guillo, Kylemii, JPIC off the top of my head. I have to review why the votes on ted are there. I'm voting Made right now because I didn't trust his falcon vote reasoning, and he was trying to give his mana away. Either alignment would know that we already discussed the danger of that if they were reading the thread. Made clearly wasn't reading the thread, and may have been trying to set up Pity The Fool. [VOTE: Made] aubergine

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do you really think mafia would be giving their mana out to civilians to kill them when they have more efficient means to do so?

If you do think mafia would, do you think they would tell thread?
Not if they were paying attention.
I read baddie chat when i'm scum. Regardless, giving mana isn't a bad idea if you don't tell people who your giving it to, as well as don't telegraph who you're giving it to

(which is why i'm planning to keep my town reads close to chest this game)
I'm struggling to wrap my head around why I'd want to give out mana currently anyways?
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hollowkatt wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:27 pm
tedxtr wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:35 pm
Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:29 pm
tedxtr wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:28 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:04 pm
tedxtr wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:32 pm anyway, go read jpic's iso
His ISO is not very meaty. He's disdainful of mech discussion, which is towny, and wants to get down to some mountainous play... but is "disengaged", like dunya said. His disengagement from the reads and the rules looks all right though. He doesn't make me suspicious for the most part. Kind of dislike the "oh, as if I'm scum asking for Cliffs" line, that's the worst thing I have to say about him.

What's your take on it?
the posts i've quoted where he interacted with people (actually think it was like one person or two at most) are just generally awkward wolfish posts

and afaict he has no villagery posts still

what do you think about the dichotomy of him asking to get cliff'd each time he got back in thread and having no pushes and your thoughts about him being townie for "wanting to get down to some mountainous play" even though it doesn't show?
Hi Ted, if Jpic is town, who is scum from your pov?
hk maybe, but my d1 accuracy is not that great when the entire thread is tunneling me

i'll probably have an updated view of the game by next day phase if i'm kept alive
Wow, that's a hedge if I've ever seen one.
"HK is a wolf probably, but like there's too much pressure b/c everyone is tunneling me" except that like two pages ago you said I was a wolf for pursuing you, so am I tunneled town or am I wolf? I can't figure out what your actual read on me is
Doesn’t this hedging only make sense if you’re wolf? Why would you knowingly hedge town (and I’ll answer your falcon question, gimmie a second to make sure I still believe the read)
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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Nicol Bolas wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:09 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:34 am Did I miss something, esooa is playing this game?
I'm here but I've not really wanted to participate in thread too much

it's just messy
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Made wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:27 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:23 pm
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Long Con wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:14 pm Right now I wouldn't yeet Marmot, dunya, Guillo, Kylemii, JPIC off the top of my head. I have to review why the votes on ted are there. I'm voting Made right now because I didn't trust his falcon vote reasoning, and he was trying to give his mana away. Either alignment would know that we already discussed the danger of that if they were reading the thread. Made clearly wasn't reading the thread, and may have been trying to set up Pity The Fool. [VOTE: Made] aubergine

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do you really think mafia would be giving their mana out to civilians to kill them when they have more efficient means to do so?

If you do think mafia would, do you think they would tell thread?
Not if they were paying attention.
I read baddie chat when i'm scum. Regardless, giving mana isn't a bad idea if you don't tell people who your giving it to, as well as don't telegraph who you're giving it to

(which is why i'm planning to keep my town reads close to chest this game)
I'm struggling to wrap my head around why I'd want to give out mana currently anyways?
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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hollowkatt wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:32 pm
Nicol Bolas wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:09 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:34 am Did I miss something, esooa is playing this game?
I'm here but I've not really wanted to participate in thread too much

it's just messy
Got any spicy reads?
spiciest is prolly town leaning Ted
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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Marmot wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:15 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:56 am
Marmot wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 am Here's a rainbow before I sleep. The yellow reads are mostly null due to lack of content/interaction.

Marmot
dunya
Epignosis
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Jack
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Enrique
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Long Con
MacDougall
Nicol Bolas

Urist
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Made
Talk to me about them baddie reads.
Falcon looks like he flinging shit everywhere and seeing what sticks. Thing is, Urist and Made are two players he's not shaded at nearly the same level as many others. From his pov, Made's votes for him are lacking any amount of reason, and should not look good. Falcon's pretty much ignored it (and he's shading me for voting Made)

In addition to the above, I called Made out for his vote, and he said he was stirring shit up. I don't think he was at all, he was just spanking, but trying to make an excuse to look more productive. I believe he and falcon are teammates.

Urist defended falcon in a manner that I think looks contrived. The way Urist asks Epi to explain his read on falcon, and Urist's ensuing townread of falcon (and Ted vote) looks to me like a player who knows falcon's alignment and has his mind made up about how he's handling it.
Meh worldbuilding. Everything is built around the falcon wagon and interactions with falcon. If you were town, I think you would be trying to flip falcon first in order to give more context to the rest of your reads.
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Re: Magic the Gathering Mafia - Day 1

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dunya wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:34 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

spicy
that's not spicy
fine with it, but it's an uncompelling yeet target.
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