Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

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@MartinGG99
Why did your SR on Tony go away?

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Like I don’t think Mac is Scum and I don’t wanna vote someone that a wolf is voting.

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Like I want TSP yeeted today but if I can’t due to people not realizing how Obv wolf they are then I’d purpose maybe a Dom yeet.
What’s everyone’s read on Dom?

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Like let’s all stop messing around yeah?

Let’s yeet actual wolf like we did with Made!

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If Tony shows resistance to a Dom yeet then I know it’s a winner!

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Like Tony has at least 2 Buddies.

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Definitely thinking Dom could be one of em.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Why because you don’t like how I play?

No you're just having a totally different conversation than I am and it won't be productive to continue

[Urist]

now that i think about it, nanook is probably slaver partners with alison and tsp

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

now that i think about it, nanook is probably slaver partners with alison and tsp

Yeah you got us we're all three slavers

And we would've gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling kids

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

So basically where I'm at is

Taking urist and grogu as town regardless

Setting aside Alison as either slaver or new reno and either way not a concern

Then we have like 7-9 slots that are really hard to solve for varying reasons

And slots like tsp or Martin that I desperately want to be town cause this game is a nightmare if they aren't

And we have a probable time crunch which sucks

So I'm gonna do my best to break this game into some worlds cause idk how else we have a chance of solving it at this point in the game with so many slots being somewhere between slankers and afk

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Dom and chop are likely not on the same team, I had some thought that Dom was a probable partner for doomade but with the delay in doom claiming something and with Dom seeming generally disconnected from mech info...it could go together idk but I think Dom is probably smart enough to get made to give another claim

Basically I'm saying Dom isn't enclave cause I think he's more likely to be dumb about roles as town than as mafia, idk if that's a good read or not but gotta go with something

So possible VC, probably not enclave, moving on

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Mac could be with esooa but I don't think he's with doomade so setting him aside too

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Has anyone claimed the role cop yet?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Anyways Alison is probably new reno cause vault city probably has a role cop, checked her, and didn't kill her

Its maybe too early still to make that read but here we are

[Urist]

Anyways Alison is probably new reno cause vault city probably has a role cop, checked her, and didn't kill her

Its maybe too early still to make that read but here we are

also she wouldn't use her shot d1 and claim d2 as slaver but that's just looking at things from a logical perspective, which i know alison is not a huge fan of.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Anyways Alison is probably new reno cause vault city probably has a role cop, checked her, and didn't kill her

Its maybe too early still to make that read but here we are

also she wouldn't use her shot d1 and claim d2 as slaver but that's just looking at things from a logical perspective, which i know alison is not a huge fan of.

Possible she'd do it to mimic town play but yeah it has a lot more utility later in the game if she's slaver

[Urist]

Anyways Alison is probably new reno cause vault city probably has a role cop, checked her, and didn't kill her

Its maybe too early still to make that read but here we are

also she wouldn't use her shot d1 and claim d2 as slaver but that's just looking at things from a logical perspective, which i know alison is not a huge fan of.

Possible she'd do it to mimic town play but yeah it has a lot more utility later in the game if she's slaver

plus there's the whole "guaranteed death eventually" thing which is not ideal

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Daisy hasn't posted since d2 so

Potentually aligned with chop, prooooobably not with esooa. Idk this slot is incredibly hard to sort im just praying for an inactivity mod kill or a vig at this point

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Anyways Alison is probably new reno cause vault city probably has a role cop, checked her, and didn't kill her

Its maybe too early still to make that read but here we are

also she wouldn't use her shot d1 and claim d2 as slaver but that's just looking at things from a logical perspective, which i know alison is not a huge fan of.

Possible she'd do it to mimic town play but yeah it has a lot more utility later in the game if she's slaver

plus there's the whole "guaranteed death eventually" thing which is not ideal

Yeah that's also not ideal

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Daisy hasn't posted since d2 so

Potentually aligned with chop, prooooobably not with esooa. Idk this slot is incredibly hard to sort im just praying for an inactivity mod kill or a vig at this point

Meh the message thing probably doesn't happen if she's with chop

Maybe daisy is just town

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Daisy hasn't posted since d2 so

Potentually aligned with chop, prooooobably not with esooa. Idk this slot is incredibly hard to sort im just praying for an inactivity mod kill or a vig at this point

Meh the message thing probably doesn't happen if she's with chop

Maybe daisy is just town

If chop flips town this read does not apply obviously

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@ChopChop

what makes you TR Nanook

The way they went about the obv wolf slot.

Nothing else at all?

I just don’t think that is ever scum theatre.
Nanook could be Vault City but I don’t think they are ever Enclave.

So you didn't in any way meta, town-read, or scum read a guy you've been harassing until he finally got that you were Seththeking (A.k.a Dark Magician on my homesite)? You apparently even played video mafia with him.

Did that even influence your thoughts on the mech claim by him against DOOM?

What I'm saying is that I don't see much of that publicly

Is this a real thing?

Apparently yes

[Gavial]

Daisy hasn't posted since d2 so

Potentually aligned with chop, prooooobably not with esooa. Idk this slot is incredibly hard to sort im just praying for an inactivity mod kill or a vig at this point

Aligned with me as Town? Most Certainly.
Aligned with me as Enclave? Why in TF would they have claimed I messaged them and why would I in any world be buddies with them. I don’t even think I could message a buddy as scum. I mean maybe but it’d be pointless.

[Gavial]

Daisy hasn't posted since d2 so

Potentually aligned with chop, prooooobably not with esooa. Idk this slot is incredibly hard to sort im just praying for an inactivity mod kill or a vig at this point

Meh the message thing probably doesn't happen if she's with chop

Maybe daisy is just town

Ok then why mention Daisy in the first place?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I think my poe for today so far is probably seth lc epi martin and poison

Daisy if seth is Town but not if he's enclave

Idk what to do with tsp on the one hand Joe says he's mafia on the hand so does seth

[Gavial]

Daisy hasn't posted since d2 so

Potentually aligned with chop, prooooobably not with esooa. Idk this slot is incredibly hard to sort im just praying for an inactivity mod kill or a vig at this point

Meh the message thing probably doesn't happen if she's with chop

Maybe daisy is just town

If chop flips town this read does not apply obviously

If you flip me today, you probably will still be naive and TR Tony when they are Obv wolf.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Daisy hasn't posted since d2 so

Potentually aligned with chop, prooooobably not with esooa. Idk this slot is incredibly hard to sort im just praying for an inactivity mod kill or a vig at this point

Meh the message thing probably doesn't happen if she's with chop

Maybe daisy is just town

Ok then why mention Daisy in the first place?

I'm functionally confirmed town, spend your time somewhere else

[Gavial]

I think my poe for today so far is probably seth lc epi martin and poison

Daisy if seth is Town but not if he's enclave

Idk what to do with tsp on the one hand Joe says he's mafia on the hand so does seth

The only one on the list I’d even considering voting is Ic.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I think my poe for today so far is probably seth lc epi martin and poison

Daisy if seth is Town but not if he's enclave

Idk what to do with tsp on the one hand Joe says he's mafia on the hand so does seth

The only one on the list I’d even considering voting is Ic.

Nonsensical but good for you

[Gavial]

Daisy hasn't posted since d2 so

Potentually aligned with chop, prooooobably not with esooa. Idk this slot is incredibly hard to sort im just praying for an inactivity mod kill or a vig at this point

Meh the message thing probably doesn't happen if she's with chop

Maybe daisy is just town

Ok then why mention Daisy in the first place?

I'm functionally confirmed town, spend your time somewhere else

Still doesn’t give you a right to push Town.

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And sheep the one guy who has been doing a lousy job trying to push it through.

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AKA Tony

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Hm poison might actually be town

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Yeah I actually think poison might be town now

[Gavial]

I think my poe for today so far is probably seth lc epi martin and poison

Daisy if seth is Town but not if he's enclave

Idk what to do with tsp on the one hand Joe says he's mafia on the hand so does seth

The only one on the list I’d even considering voting is Ic.

Nonsensical but good for you

Martin is Town. They helped my case on TSP. They have been giving real Townie vibes. The only doubt I may have is their sudden 180 on TSP recently.

Epi I trust. I’ll be bias maybe I just really like his gimmick.
He also can help me use my ability so there’s another reason I want him to live.

As for Poison I would normally say I’d be down due to not really seeing anything that makes them Townie, but Tony is voting them and Tony is wolf so therefore Poison is Town.

[Gavial]

Hm poison might actually be town

Yeah I actually think poison might be town now

Yeah no shit.
Tony’s voting them.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Maybe Marmot is mafia

Is that dumb

@MacDougall is it dumb to think Marmot might be mafia

Or anyone else that can read Marmot

[TonyStarkPrime]

Anyways Alison is probably new reno cause vault city probably has a role cop, checked her, and didn't kill her

Its maybe too early still to make that read but here we are

yeah probably, I guess. idk. I don't think the poisoner would be sandbagging poisons just to frame alison but the one with a day kill could hold it and never be discovered

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Hm poison might actually be town

Yeah I actually think poison might be town now

Yeah no shit.
Tony’s voting them.

Even if Tony is mafia that isn't really enough on its own

Anyways go spend your time doing something besides replying to every post I make

[TonyStarkPrime]

Has anyone claimed the role cop yet?

mac kinda sorta did but that's not what he is

[Gavial]

Hm poison might actually be town

Yeah I actually think poison might be town now

Yeah no shit.
Tony’s voting them.

Even if Tony is mafia that isn't really enough on its own

Anyways go spend your time doing something besides replying to every post I make

Can you explain to me your entire case on me please.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Anyways Alison is probably new reno cause vault city probably has a role cop, checked her, and didn't kill her

Its maybe too early still to make that read but here we are

yeah probably, I guess. idk. I don't think the poisoner would be sandbagging poisons just to frame alison but the one with a day kill could hold it and never be discovered

Hm. Yeah thats an interesting point, cause it does raise the likelihood of Metzger being in the game, and the higher the likelihood of Metzger being in the game the higher the likelihood of Alison being slaver. Or maybe Metzger got a fake claim for the day vig or something like that, idk, but I do agree we probably have Metzger and not the poison one

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Has anyone claimed the role cop yet?

mac kinda sorta did but that's not what he is

Yeah I wasn't counting him

[TonyStarkPrime]

Some notes on methodology: my light greens are people who are I think either mostly cleared from one team or are town. These were determined before I started and I think they're consistent throughout. Everyone who's flipped I sorted by their color, Alison gets her own for "potential slaver", and everyone who has decent equity is what's left, no matter if they have just a little bit or if I think they're basically lock wolf.

DAY 1 FINAL:

Spoiler: show

BoKnows(8)
Voters: Urist, Esooa, staypositivefriend, MartinGG99, Rej, Alison, Grogu, Sloonei

c4e5g3d5(3)
Voters: Long Con, Epignosis, Dom

ChopChop(3)
Voters: TonyStarkPrime, c4e5g3d5, Jackofhearts2005

Jackofhearts2005
Voters: DrWilgy, ChopChop

Rej(5)
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, KZA, falcon45ca, Marmot, MacDougall

staypositivefriend
Voters: DaughterOfOmega

TonyStarkPrime
Voters: BoKnows

Not Voting:Daisy, Poison, Kyle

DAY 2 FINAL:

Spoiler: show

ChopChop(4)
Voters: Kylemii, TonyStarkPrime, Alison, Sloonei

MacDougall
Voters: Epignosis

Rej(11)
Voters: KZA, Spacedaisy, MartinGG99, Marmot, Urist, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, MacDougall, Long Con, Jackofhearts2005, Grogu, staypositivefriend


Sloonei
Voters: ChopChop

Not Voting: Dom, Poison, Rej, Omega

DAY 3 FINAL:

Spoiler: show

ChopChop (5)
Voters: Made, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Alison, TonyStarkPrime, KZA

Made (7)
Voters: MartinGG99, Long Con, Kylemii, Jackofhearts2005, MacDougall, Sloonei, Marmot

KZA
Voters: ChopChop

MacDougall
Voters: Dom, Grogu, Epignosis

NOT VOTING:
Voters: Urist, Poison, Daisy

Mostly nothing new.

nanook tell me what you see in the Day 1 VCA

[TonyStarkPrime]

and the other days but that one too

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Idk VC isn't something I pull out that often. Tvt wagons are also excruciating to figure out. I'd say offhand it seems fairly unlikely that there's no mafia in the 13 people between rej and bo, idk what else sticks out. Lots of dispersion, somehow three people not voting.

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Jack was a tied wagon at one point on Day 1.

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3 way.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Marmot and Martin don't look amazing