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[Sloonei]

In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.

I listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.

you're reading for content but the context is also important to note.

what does this mean?

[hollowkatt]

In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.

I listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.

you're reading for content but the context is also important to note.

what does this mean?

That of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?

[Sloonei]

In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.

I listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.

you're reading for content but the context is also important to note.

what does this mean?

That of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?

I get that. I was just saying that there should be one other town-read in there if he’d be comfortable giving one.

I don’t know. People don’t seem to be suspecting Urist when I ask for suspects. I thought someone implied there was a mechanical reason to view him as town.

I am just pooling together what seems to be the consensus opinion among the responses I’ve gotten. I haven’f actually read stuff.

[hollowkatt]

I think Urist/112 are tied together with the way Urist handled Bolas and the way he's town reading the slot even without being able to commit to a townread on 112 themselves. Yeah, I get not having read through all the posts yet, that's fair

[112]

I would need to eliminate one person from the POE pool of 112/JPIC/LC/hk/Enrique/falcon. We only have one mischop (assuming standard progression) so the POE needs to be no more than 5.

@Justplayingitcool @112 @Long Con @hollowkatt @Enrique @falcon45ca

Besides yourself, which one of these people is town?
Is there anyone not on this list that you think should be?

Enrique and falc are town i'm pretty sure

[112]

[VOTE: jpic] aubergine

[Justplayingitcool]

[VOTE: jpic] aubergine

[Justplayingitcool]

In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.

I listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.

you're reading for content but the context is also important to note.

what does this mean?

That of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?

I get that. I was just saying that there should be one other town-read in there if he’d be comfortable giving one.

I don’t know. People don’t seem to be suspecting Urist when I ask for suspects. I thought someone implied there was a mechanical reason to view him as town.

I am just pooling together what seems to be the consensus opinion among the responses I’ve gotten. I haven’f actually read stuff.

I think Urist/112 are tied together with the way Urist handled Bolas and the way he's town reading the slot even without being able to commit to a townread on 112 themselves. Yeah, I get not having read through all the posts yet, that's fair

If we yeet Urist, and he’s mafia, I get a vig shot. I am currently aiming it at 112 right now.

Get ready, folks

Spoiler: show

[112]

In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.

I listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.

you're reading for content but the context is also important to note.

what does this mean?

That of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?

I get that. I was just saying that there should be one other town-read in there if he’d be comfortable giving one.

I don’t know. People don’t seem to be suspecting Urist when I ask for suspects. I thought someone implied there was a mechanical reason to view him as town.

I am just pooling together what seems to be the consensus opinion among the responses I’ve gotten. I haven’f actually read stuff.

I think Urist/112 are tied together with the way Urist handled Bolas and the way he's town reading the slot even without being able to commit to a townread on 112 themselves. Yeah, I get not having read through all the posts yet, that's fair

If we yeet Urist, and he’s mafia, I get a vig shot. I am currently aiming it at 112 right now.

Get ready, folks

Spoiler: show

that's a bad shot

[Jackofhearts2005]

In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.

I listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.

you're reading for content but the context is also important to note.

what does this mean?

That of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?

I get that. I was just saying that there should be one other town-read in there if he’d be comfortable giving one.

I don’t know. People don’t seem to be suspecting Urist when I ask for suspects. I thought someone implied there was a mechanical reason to view him as town.

I am just pooling together what seems to be the consensus opinion among the responses I’ve gotten. I haven’f actually read stuff.

Maybe HK. I’d be more confident in that read if we’d yeeted a wolf.

[hollowkatt]

I listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.

you're reading for content but the context is also important to note.

what does this mean?

That of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?

I get that. I was just saying that there should be one other town-read in there if he’d be comfortable giving one.

I don’t know. People don’t seem to be suspecting Urist when I ask for suspects. I thought someone implied there was a mechanical reason to view him as town.

I am just pooling together what seems to be the consensus opinion among the responses I’ve gotten. I haven’f actually read stuff.

I think Urist/112 are tied together with the way Urist handled Bolas and the way he's town reading the slot even without being able to commit to a townread on 112 themselves. Yeah, I get not having read through all the posts yet, that's fair

If we yeet Urist, and he’s mafia, I get a vig shot. I am currently aiming it at 112 right now.

Get ready, folks

Spoiler: show

that's a bad shot

real quick 112, what's your POE/Solve? Where do you think the wolves are hiding?

[hollowkatt]

crickets

[Urist]

Are 112 and JPIC consensus not-town-reads?

Myself and Mac view 112 as not mafia.
Mac is dead ofc so

In my time in post cap jail I observed HK essentially outing himself as mafia. I believe HK and 112 are teammates.

Oh right ok well maybe I'm wrong on 112. Would still prefer to axe the actively-scummy hk first.

Why do you scumread HK?

His reads show no progression and he continued to push the ted wagon for bad reasons after being shown that his stated reasons were invalid. He said he was going after ted due to a couple of d0 posts as well as the fact that ted was being defensive & deflective. I told him to look at ted's iso and point out where ted was being defensive. Hk's response was essentially "ok well he's not being defensive but he's still lock scum for the d0 stuff". This was on d2. Absolutely no progression on the read, and when ted flipped town hk's reads didn't change at all. Personally, when I find out that I was that wrong on someone, my reads are shaken at least a little.

He also keeps stating that my read on 112 is strange. I've repeatedly said that it's a weak town read due to a hunch I have on Esooa's meta. Hk is calling me scum because I don't have a read on 112. I'll ask you jpic, has 112 done anything especially alignment-indicative this game? I disagree that he hasn't been solvy... he hasn't posted a ton of questions, but he's been posting his reads and he tried to engage ted on d2 when he was pushing him (note: 112 wasn't here on d1 and d3 was a crapshoot). I don't think I've received a response from hk about what "not solvy" really means to him, but that's the only objection he has to 112's play. Considering this, it's very odd that hk's main complaint about me is that I'm defending 112 when hk's read of 112 is so weak and vague.

Those two reasons are the main reasons for why I suspect hk.

[Urist]

Are 112 and JPIC consensus not-town-reads?

Myself and Mac view 112 as not mafia.
Mac is dead ofc so

In my time in post cap jail I observed HK essentially outing himself as mafia. I believe HK and 112 are teammates.

Oh right ok well maybe I'm wrong on 112. Would still prefer to axe the actively-scummy hk first.

this, btw, is one of the reasons I scum read you so hard. you've been up my butt for days now but all you do is kvetch about it. You're not willing to actually [i[push[/i] me but you're totally willing to keep spewing "HK is a wolf guys" into the thread.

LOL what kind of accusation is this? I haven't been pushing you because I haven't had an execution vote in 2 days. I did lay out my reasons for suspecting you clearly at EoD yesterday though. I cannot believe you're trying to misrepresent my play so egregiously, I actually laughed out loud when I read this.

[Urist]

You all can continue as you will but I'm asking this:

Name your top suspect.
Name your top civilian.

Epi civvy, LC sus

This is the worst. Pretty sure you can't pick a confirmed town as your top civilian, the exercise is supposed to get your opinions. And jumping on Enrique's weird fantasy is doubly shady.

Town: TSP
Scum: falcon

Sorry, I didn't read that rule anywhere. Interesting you single me out, when others did the same.


It wouldn't be because I'm sussing you, right?


No, thats never why

Beep beep

[Urist]

In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.

I listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.

you're reading for content but the context is also important to note.

what does this mean?

That of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?

I get that. I was just saying that there should be one other town-read in there if he’d be comfortable giving one.

I don’t know. People don’t seem to be suspecting Urist when I ask for suspects. I thought someone implied there was a mechanical reason to view him as town.

I am just pooling together what seems to be the consensus opinion among the responses I’ve gotten. I haven’f actually read stuff.

I think Urist/112 are tied together with the way Urist handled Bolas and the way he's town reading the slot even without being able to commit to a townread on 112 themselves. Yeah, I get not having read through all the posts yet, that's fair

If we yeet Urist, and he’s mafia, I get a vig shot. I am currently aiming it at 112 right now.

Get ready, folks

Spoiler: show

I'm not mafia, sorry to disappoint you. If you're town you've wasted your ability.

[Urist]

Has anyone claimed the Neighborhood Yeet ability? Was it TSP?

[Long Con]

You all can continue as you will but I'm asking this:

Name your top suspect.
Name your top civilian.

Epi civvy, LC sus

This is the worst. Pretty sure you can't pick a confirmed town as your top civilian, the exercise is supposed to get your opinions. And jumping on Enrique's weird fantasy is doubly shady.

Town: TSP
Scum: falcon

Sorry, I didn't read that rule anywhere. Interesting you single me out, when others did the same.


It wouldn't be because I'm sussing you, right?


No, thats never why

Beep beep

Is that like... the Road Runner?

[Long Con]

I just confirmed that mafia don't have investigatives, so the rolecop theory and the thopter theory are both out.

You asked the host?

[Urist]

You all can continue as you will but I'm asking this:

Name your top suspect.
Name your top civilian.

Epi civvy, LC sus

This is the worst. Pretty sure you can't pick a confirmed town as your top civilian, the exercise is supposed to get your opinions. And jumping on Enrique's weird fantasy is doubly shady.

Town: TSP
Scum: falcon

Sorry, I didn't read that rule anywhere. Interesting you single me out, when others did the same.


It wouldn't be because I'm sussing you, right?


No, thats never why

Beep beep

Is that like... the Road Runner?

No it's the sound a bus makes.

[Long Con]

You all can continue as you will but I'm asking this:

Name your top suspect.
Name your top civilian.

Epi civvy, LC sus

This is the worst. Pretty sure you can't pick a confirmed town as your top civilian, the exercise is supposed to get your opinions. And jumping on Enrique's weird fantasy is doubly shady.

Town: TSP
Scum: falcon

Sorry, I didn't read that rule anywhere. Interesting you single me out, when others did the same.


It wouldn't be because I'm sussing you, right?


No, thats never why

Beep beep

Is that like... the Road Runner?

No it's the sound a bus makes.

So it means you think falcon and I are wolfmates. Sub-par slang IMO.

[Long Con]

In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.

I listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.

you're reading for content but the context is also important to note.

what does this mean?

That of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?

I get that. I was just saying that there should be one other town-read in there if he’d be comfortable giving one.

I don’t know. People don’t seem to be suspecting Urist when I ask for suspects. I thought someone implied there was a mechanical reason to view him as town.

I am just pooling together what seems to be the consensus opinion among the responses I’ve gotten. I haven’f actually read stuff.

I think Urist/112 are tied together with the way Urist handled Bolas and the way he's town reading the slot even without being able to commit to a townread on 112 themselves. Yeah, I get not having read through all the posts yet, that's fair

If we yeet Urist, and he’s mafia, I get a vig shot. I am currently aiming it at 112 right now.

Get ready, folks

Spoiler: show

What's this all about?

[Justplayingitcool]

I listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.

you're reading for content but the context is also important to note.

what does this mean?

That of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?

I get that. I was just saying that there should be one other town-read in there if he’d be comfortable giving one.

I don’t know. People don’t seem to be suspecting Urist when I ask for suspects. I thought someone implied there was a mechanical reason to view him as town.

I am just pooling together what seems to be the consensus opinion among the responses I’ve gotten. I haven’f actually read stuff.

I think Urist/112 are tied together with the way Urist handled Bolas and the way he's town reading the slot even without being able to commit to a townread on 112 themselves. Yeah, I get not having read through all the posts yet, that's fair

If we yeet Urist, and he’s mafia, I get a vig shot. I am currently aiming it at 112 right now.

Get ready, folks

Spoiler: show

What's this all about?

All in good time

[Urist]

Why didn't you use your ability on n1 jpic?

[falcon45ca]

Epi civvy, LC sus

This is the worst. Pretty sure you can't pick a confirmed town as your top civilian, the exercise is supposed to get your opinions. And jumping on Enrique's weird fantasy is doubly shady.

Town: TSP
Scum: falcon

Sorry, I didn't read that rule anywhere. Interesting you single me out, when others did the same.


It wouldn't be because I'm sussing you, right?


No, thats never why

Beep beep

Is that like... the Road Runner?

No it's the sound a bus makes.

So it means you think falcon and I are wolfmates. Sub-par slang IMO.

Agreed. Well below par. Plus I'm not a wolf

[Justplayingitcool]

Why didn't you use your ability on n1 jpic?

What makes you think that I didn't?

[Long Con]

Why didn't you use your ability on n1 jpic?

What makes you think that I didn't?

[Urist]

Why didn't you use your ability on n1 jpic?

What makes you think that I didn't?

I know you're being flippant, but I'll answer seriously anyway. No mark tokens were given out on N1.

[Justplayingitcool]

And you would be correct with that observation. Like I said, it will become clearer soon enough.

[Long Con]

And you would be correct with that observation. Like I said, it will become clearer soon enough.

As soon as we yeet Urist?

[Justplayingitcool]

And you would be correct with that observation. Like I said, it will become clearer soon enough.

As soon as we yeet Urist?

no, definitely before. eta in 11 hours

[Urist]

Has anyone claimed the Neighborhood Yeet ability? Was it TSP?

Would love an answer to this sooner rather than later btw @TonyStarkPrime @hollowkatt @Epignosis

[Jackofhearts2005]

Why can’t we just do it now?

[hollowkatt]

TSP has claimed in the 'hood to be silenced. I can confirm this is not my action

[Urist]

I silenced TSP. He can still make 10 posts today, not sure why he's not using them.
Did he claim to have created the special yeet mechanic today or not? If he didn't cause this mechanic, who did he neighborize last night?

[Enrique]

And you would be correct with that observation. Like I said, it will become clearer soon enough.

As soon as we yeet Urist?

no, definitely before. eta in 11 hours

[hollowkatt]

I silenced TSP. He can still make 10 posts today, not sure why he's not using them.
Did he claim to have created the special yeet mechanic today or not? If he didn't cause this mechanic, who did he neighborize last night?

you'll have to ask him

[hollowkatt]

And you would be correct with that observation. Like I said, it will become clearer soon enough.

As soon as we yeet Urist?

no, definitely before. eta in 11 hours

Spoiler: show

spoilers mate, spoilers!

[TonyStarkPrime]

Has anyone claimed the Neighborhood Yeet ability? Was it TSP?

Would love an answer to this sooner rather than later btw @TonyStarkPrime @hollowkatt @Epignosis

Hello. I have done it. I have also been silenced. The purpose of the neighborhood is as follows: this ability gains its power from the existence of the confirmed town epi. I will plan on sheeping whatever Epi decides (barring him making a stupid decision or disappearing). However, I only have 10 posts to use in the thread and I have to use posts to vote so HK and Epi speak for me today.

Would also love to know why you silenced me. smh. [VOTE: urist] aubergine that's not nice.

[Epignosis]

Has anyone claimed the Neighborhood Yeet ability? Was it TSP?

Would love an answer to this sooner rather than later btw @TonyStarkPrime @hollowkatt @Epignosis

I don't know what this means.

[Urist]

Has anyone claimed the Neighborhood Yeet ability? Was it TSP?

Would love an answer to this sooner rather than later btw @TonyStarkPrime @hollowkatt @Epignosis

Hello. I have done it. I have also been silenced. The purpose of the neighborhood is as follows: this ability gains its power from the existence of the confirmed town epi. I will plan on sheeping whatever Epi decides (barring him making a stupid decision or disappearing). However, I only have 10 posts to use in the thread and I have to use posts to vote so HK and Epi speak for me today.

Would also love to know why you silenced me. smh. [VOTE: urist] aubergine that's not nice.

Because there's a beneficial side to my action and I knew you'd be the least affected since you'd most likely be able to speak through a neighborhood today.
Also because I couldn't silence Guillotine on consecutive nights.

[hollowkatt]

@Long Con @Enrique both of you are claiming to hand out Maple Leaf cards, yes? I'm not mistaken when I say that?

If so, who gave the card to Dunya and who gave the card to me?

Also, someone gave me mana last night. 1 colorless and two of the same color.

[112]

you're reading for content but the context is also important to note.

what does this mean?

That of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?

I get that. I was just saying that there should be one other town-read in there if he’d be comfortable giving one.

I don’t know. People don’t seem to be suspecting Urist when I ask for suspects. I thought someone implied there was a mechanical reason to view him as town.

I am just pooling together what seems to be the consensus opinion among the responses I’ve gotten. I haven’f actually read stuff.

I think Urist/112 are tied together with the way Urist handled Bolas and the way he's town reading the slot even without being able to commit to a townread on 112 themselves. Yeah, I get not having read through all the posts yet, that's fair

If we yeet Urist, and he’s mafia, I get a vig shot. I am currently aiming it at 112 right now.

Get ready, folks

Spoiler: show

that's a bad shot

real quick 112, what's your POE/Solve? Where do you think the wolves are hiding?

not sure

[Urist]

Has anyone claimed the Neighborhood Yeet ability? Was it TSP?

Would love an answer to this sooner rather than later btw @TonyStarkPrime @hollowkatt @Epignosis

I don't know what this means.

I suspect that the ability which created the special execution mechanic on d3 is the same one that created the special execution mechanic today. It doesn't make any sense for them to be two separate abilities (what would happen if they were both used at the same time?)
Also, dunya was given a ton of mana for n2 and I don't think anyone gave her mana for n3, so how would Tony execute this special ability unless it was initially triggered n2 and this is just an after-effect?
What I'm getting at is that TSP is probably mafia. And that, unfortunately, I'm probably wrong on hk and that he's likely town after all.

[hollowkatt]

Has anyone claimed the Neighborhood Yeet ability? Was it TSP?

Would love an answer to this sooner rather than later btw @TonyStarkPrime @hollowkatt @Epignosis

I don't know what this means.

I suspect that the ability which created the special execution mechanic on d3 is the same one that created the special execution mechanic today. It doesn't make any sense for them to be two separate abilities (what would happen if they were both used at the same time?)
Also, dunya was given a ton of mana for n2 and I don't think anyone gave her mana for n3, so how would Tony execute this special ability unless it was initially triggered n2 and this is just an after-effect?
What I'm getting at is that TSP is probably mafia. And that, unfortunately, I'm probably wrong on hk and that he's likely town after all.

This neighborhood and it's yeet controlling ability is from TSP. I knew this was possible in the Dunya neighborhood. She asked me not to out that ability. TSP has given me his approval to this post

[Epignosis]

If I'm mafia, and I control the tie between two civilians, do I pick Wilgy (25 posts) or JPIC (significantly more thread presence) to die?

[Epignosis]

I would need to eliminate one person from the POE pool of 112/JPIC/LC/hk/Enrique/falcon. We only have one mischop (assuming standard progression) so the POE needs to be no more than 5.

I don't think HK is mafia.

[Urist]

If I'm mafia, and I control the tie between two civilians, do I pick Wilgy (25 posts) or JPIC (significantly more thread presence) to die?

jpic had already had a wagon on him and was actively being discussed as an execution option. He also never had a vote on him to save him on d3 (unlike Wilgy, who was voted by Jack at one point).

[Urist]

So it means you think falcon and I are wolfmates. Sub-par slang IMO.

No it specifically means I think falcon's post is indicative of him being your mafia buddy.
Your response to him wasn't Oscar-worthy either, to say the least.

[Epignosis]

Are 112 and JPIC consensus not-town-reads?

Myself and Mac view 112 as not mafia.
Mac is dead ofc so

In my time in post cap jail I observed HK essentially outing himself as mafia. I believe HK and 112 are teammates.

Oh right ok well maybe I'm wrong on 112. Would still prefer to axe the actively-scummy hk first.

Why do you scumread HK?

His reads show no progression and he continued to push the ted wagon for bad reasons after being shown that his stated reasons were invalid. He said he was going after ted due to a couple of d0 posts as well as the fact that ted was being defensive & deflective. I told him to look at ted's iso and point out where ted was being defensive. Hk's response was essentially "ok well he's not being defensive but he's still lock scum for the d0 stuff". This was on d2. Absolutely no progression on the read, and when ted flipped town hk's reads didn't change at all. Personally, when I find out that I was that wrong on someone, my reads are shaken at least a little.

He also keeps stating that my read on 112 is strange. I've repeatedly said that it's a weak town read due to a hunch I have on Esooa's meta. Hk is calling me scum because I don't have a read on 112. I'll ask you jpic, has 112 done anything especially alignment-indicative this game? I disagree that he hasn't been solvy... he hasn't posted a ton of questions, but he's been posting his reads and he tried to engage ted on d2 when he was pushing him (note: 112 wasn't here on d1 and d3 was a crapshoot). I don't think I've received a response from hk about what "not solvy" really means to him, but that's the only objection he has to 112's play. Considering this, it's very odd that hk's main complaint about me is that I'm defending 112 when hk's read of 112 is so weak and vague.

Those two reasons are the main reasons for why I suspect hk.

Regardless of this, HK isn't getting lynched today.

Talk about someone else.