Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Maybe bo just exists jn my blind spot but he seems pretty townie to me and these arguments seem pretty silly

I think irreverent and goofy slankers who give sarcastic or joking answers to being suspected are more likely to be in your blindspot!

Sometimes but

Bo hasn't made me laugh once this game and I still think he's town

He also isn't slanking

[MacDougall]

no, but for real, apart from alison's explanation, why are people voting marmot?

What in the actual fuck?

Why do you give the faintest shit?

[Justplayingitcool]

no, but for real, apart from alison's explanation, why are people voting marmot?

I have a gut meta read which I need to crosscheck with Shadows corridor

[Justplayingitcool]

OK, back to work

[MacDougall]

Wolves.

Please.

If you don't bus on d1 here you're going to die to the house of cards effect.

Your only path to wincon is to sacrifice your weakest player right now.

Stop trying to kill townies lol.

[MacDougall]

*Glances nervously at Al Sama and Oddmerta wagons*

[tedxtr]

no, but for real, apart from alison's explanation, why are people voting marmot?

What in the actual fuck?

Why do you give the faintest shit?

because he was one of my few isos that i've looked into and i came up with a slight town read and just don't see any reason to vote for him

[MacDougall]

no, but for real, apart from alison's explanation, why are people voting marmot?

What in the actual fuck?

Why do you give the faintest shit?

because he was one of my few isos that i've looked into and i came up with a slight town read and just don't see any reason to vote for him

Its two random votes in amongst wagons everywhere and from your perspective those votes might not even mean anything? What a weird thing to focus on lockwolf I won't be able to chop d1 Ted.

[MacDougall]

HEY TWO PEOPLE WHO CLEARLY ARENT HERE WHY ARE YOU VOTING MARMOT OF ALL PPL MARMOT IS SLIGHTLY TOWNIE

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK YOU OUTED AS SHIT NERD MAFIA LOL

[MacDougall]

I am now anchoring ted to the bottom of my readlist until he is dead.

[BoKnows]

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

[MacDougall]

Black will be his colour in the rainbow. Not red. Black.

[tutuu]

Here's the thing.

If Alison, Mac, Jay, Sloonei are all town here.

It wouldn't be fun being a wolf.

Who isn't being their usual fun engaged towny selves?

Find me some wolves with answers.

im trying to find the words to voice my reaction

maccie, im afraid if u will perceive my reaction as disrespectful and i dont want that because thats not my intent, so can you please believe me that its not my intent and promise me not to have an overly negative reacion to my reaction to this?

[tedxtr]

i focus on it because it's the one of the only things i've paid attention in this game

are you finding it unreasonable?

[MacDougall]

Here's the thing.

If Alison, Mac, Jay, Sloonei are all town here.

It wouldn't be fun being a wolf.

Who isn't being their usual fun engaged towny selves?

Find me some wolves with answers.

im trying to find the words to voice my reaction

maccie, im afraid if u will perceive my reaction as disrespectful and i dont want that because thats not my intent, so can you please believe me that its not my intent and promise me not to have an overly negative reacion to my reaction to this?

Whatever you think is a correct response isn't. No wolves are able to operate with comfort when those 4 ppl are town. I don't care about your compulsive desire to shit on peoples hubris lol.

[MacDougall]

are you finding it unreasonable?

No not at all quite reasonable keep at it.

[MacDougall]

That said say what you think Tutuu its a game. Feeling the need to protect my fragile ego is more offensive than any real reaction you could have to that post.

[tutuu]

i have fooled all 4 of these people as mafia and i didnt feel particularly threatened by any of those 4

i understand the basis of the read and fair enough. like it could be correct read. i just dont think anyone in this game is that >rand good, myself included

[TonyStarkPrime]

@Long Con @TonyStarkPrime you just wolfed very recently with jpic and towned with him in goc

what are ur reads on him again? u should have the freshest meta knowledge

I spent less than half an hour in the game thread but town

[tedxtr]

are you finding it unreasonable?

No not at all quite reasonable keep at it.

if you're trolling : how is it unreasonable?

if you're not trolling : reaction tests don't work on me

[MacDougall]

i have fooled all 4 of these people as mafia and i didnt feel particularly threatened by any of those 4

i understand the basis of the read and fair enough. like it could be correct read. i just dont think anyone in this game is that >rand good, myself included

Yes but I know you are town so I immediately disqualified you from the pool of possibility and am left with only people who would say "fuck fuck fuck" due to the rand.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Here's the thing.

If Alison, Mac, Jay, Sloonei are all town here.

It wouldn't be fun being a wolf.

Who isn't being their usual fun engaged towny selves?

Find me some wolves with answers.

on the contrary it’d be more fun

[MacDougall]

Here's the thing.

If Alison, Mac, Jay, Sloonei are all town here.

It wouldn't be fun being a wolf.

Who isn't being their usual fun engaged towny selves?

Find me some wolves with answers.

on the contrary it’d be more fun

Do we make our now or is there more dramatic build up first?

[tutuu]

i have fooled all 4 of these people as mafia and i didnt feel particularly threatened by any of those 4

i understand the basis of the read and fair enough. like it could be correct read. i just dont think anyone in this game is that >rand good, myself included

Yes but I know you are town so I immediately disqualified you from the pool of possibility and am left with only people who would say "fuck fuck fuck" due to the rand.

i understand - your read could/is valid. i just cant stand overconfidence, you did say it yourself. just a huge pet peeve

[TonyStarkPrime]

Let's play a game:

Is this low-hanging fruit, or is this a justifiable suspect?

AL_sama
BoKnows
fingersplints
JPIC
KZA
Long Con
Marmot
tedxtr

I extract these specific names because they strike me as applicable to the question -- either facing generic suspicions or otherwise pretty blank slates.

Down the line:
1
2
Neither it’s a trick question
1 for some reason
2
Actually feeling 2 but idk why
1
1

Why is Al_sama town?

LHF \neq town

[MacDougall]

are you finding it unreasonable?

No not at all quite reasonable keep at it.

if you're trolling : how is it unreasonable?

if you're not trolling : reaction tests don't work on me

The mindset required for you to take issue with that wagon requires the following steps.

1. Need to ISO Marmot
2. Discovery that he is slightly townie
3. Observation that he has a wagon
4. Recognisation that it requires flagging

My issue is in point 3 and 4.

Problem the first. SPF and Michelle are not present to answer you. That is very apparent. So nobody currently wagoning rodent boy can even answer. Which makes your question an effort in posturing.

Problem the second. Who cares about someone having a 2 vote wagon containing people that may not even be up to date on the haps in a composition where there are multiple wagons greater than said number?

[MacDougall]

i have fooled all 4 of these people as mafia and i didnt feel particularly threatened by any of those 4

i understand the basis of the read and fair enough. like it could be correct read. i just dont think anyone in this game is that >rand good, myself included

Yes but I know you are town so I immediately disqualified you from the pool of possibility and am left with only people who would say "fuck fuck fuck" due to the rand.

i understand - your read could/is valid. i just cant stand overconfidence, you did say it yourself. just a huge pet peeve

Having self esteem isn't a bad thing Tutuu. It's kind of sad that you view it that way.

[Long Con]

[VOTE: AL_sama] aubergine

Nobody trusts this slot, and getting a wagon up has been pulling teeth.

I trust Al

And the wagon grew too fast

That argument is used to indicate that someone on the mafia team is wagoning Al to save their teammate (here proposed to be Marmot). Who on the Al wagon is mafia?

I don't agree with that it needs to be a save. Mafia jump on town wagons all the time without it being a save.

Town to mafia on the Al wagon: Alison, tutuu, JJJ, Joseph. Joe has looked better and worse to me today, depending on the post.

Skimmed through Al's ISO and was not impressed. Towards the end he made a giant read list and falcon said something like "it looks like you don't want to lynch anybody", and Al responded by saying he's not confident in his read list. If you're not confident enough in your reads why even bother making a readlist??? It seems like he made a readlist to just make a readlist.

i think this is w/w

I had the same feeling.

Michelle is town either way imo

Why?

She's quite easy to read. She posts with a joyful spirit and reckless acquiescence as town.

Ugh. This is one of the "worse" posts.

@Long Con @TonyStarkPrime you just wolfed very recently with jpic and towned with him in goc

what are ur reads on him again? u should have the freshest meta knowledge

It might have been the early game development, but I found JPIC to be the most uncomfortable as mafia on the team. He had the ability to gladiate a town player and it always seemed too risky (until it wasn't)...I recall talking several times to him about how he would need to show his shining town self in order to set up a good Duel, but he was not fully able to produce that IMO.

Also I still think bo is town

why

Honestly

I don't think he can manage this game as mafia

I've seen him do better as mafia than this. Not here but my first experience with him he was mafia and he didn't go belly up. I understand your reasoning but it can just be that he's more participatory in this game. Alison's points are too good for you to be ignoring them off bad meta though.

If I'm mafia vote for me

Is this a teammate whose ability is inferior to Al_sama's?

[MacDougall]

Let's play a game:

Is this low-hanging fruit, or is this a justifiable suspect?

AL_sama
BoKnows
fingersplints
JPIC
KZA
Long Con
Marmot
tedxtr

I extract these specific names because they strike me as applicable to the question -- either facing generic suspicions or otherwise pretty blank slates.

Down the line:
1
2
Neither it’s a trick question
1 for some reason
2
Actually feeling 2 but idk why
1
1

Why is Al_sama town?

LHF \neq town

Okay.

Here's the thing.

You and I are completely polarised in our reads.

If yours are correct then that means substantial shit.

So I ask again how confident are these reads. Are you overpromoting them for a town benefit you can articulate? Because if you are town you are either supremely wrong for some reason or I am and if I am then I am heavily pocketed and promoting scum wincon right now and need to figure out if I am.

The problem is that the potential pocketeers are just so brutally obviously town to me. I just am going to find it so hard to see otherwise.

So the outlier is that not only am I wrong but Alison, Jay, Sloonei and other more consensus contributors are all wrong and you are right. There are no wolves that profile as wolves in that scenario that make sense.

The only possibility that makes any sense is you are just hyping your shit reads and know they are baseless but are pushing them anyway for some reason as town or mafia.

If town. Stop it lo.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: AL_sama] aubergine

Nobody trusts this slot, and getting a wagon up has been pulling teeth.

I trust Al

And the wagon grew too fast

That argument is used to indicate that someone on the mafia team is wagoning Al to save their teammate (here proposed to be Marmot). Who on the Al wagon is mafia?

I don't agree with that it needs to be a save. Mafia jump on town wagons all the time without it being a save.

Town to mafia on the Al wagon: Alison, tutuu, JJJ, Joseph. Joe has looked better and worse to me today, depending on the post.

Skimmed through Al's ISO and was not impressed. Towards the end he made a giant read list and falcon said something like "it looks like you don't want to lynch anybody", and Al responded by saying he's not confident in his read list. If you're not confident enough in your reads why even bother making a readlist??? It seems like he made a readlist to just make a readlist.

i think this is w/w

I had the same feeling.

Michelle is town either way imo

Why?

She's quite easy to read. She posts with a joyful spirit and reckless acquiescence as town.

Ugh. This is one of the "worse" posts.

@Long Con @TonyStarkPrime you just wolfed very recently with jpic and towned with him in goc

what are ur reads on him again? u should have the freshest meta knowledge

It might have been the early game development, but I found JPIC to be the most uncomfortable as mafia on the team. He had the ability to gladiate a town player and it always seemed too risky (until it wasn't)...I recall talking several times to him about how he would need to show his shining town self in order to set up a good Duel, but he was not fully able to produce that IMO.

Also I still think bo is town

why

Honestly

I don't think he can manage this game as mafia

I've seen him do better as mafia than this. Not here but my first experience with him he was mafia and he didn't go belly up. I understand your reasoning but it can just be that he's more participatory in this game. Alison's points are too good for you to be ignoring them off bad meta though.

If I'm mafia vote for me

Is this a teammate whose ability is inferior to Al_sama's?

For what its worth I recognise your disgust with me misreading you as your town reaction.

[tutuu]

i have fooled all 4 of these people as mafia and i didnt feel particularly threatened by any of those 4

i understand the basis of the read and fair enough. like it could be correct read. i just dont think anyone in this game is that >rand good, myself included

Yes but I know you are town so I immediately disqualified you from the pool of possibility and am left with only people who would say "fuck fuck fuck" due to the rand.

i understand - your read could/is valid. i just cant stand overconfidence, you did say it yourself. just a huge pet peeve

Having self esteem isn't a bad thing Tutuu. It's kind of sad that you view it that way.

its not a bad thing. i disagree with the implication generally but i dont want to engage with this further

[tedxtr]

are you finding it unreasonable?

No not at all quite reasonable keep at it.

if you're trolling : how is it unreasonable?

if you're not trolling : reaction tests don't work on me

The mindset required for you to take issue with that wagon requires the following steps.

1. Need to ISO Marmot
2. Discovery that he is slightly townie
3. Observation that he has a wagon
4. Recognisation that it requires flagging

My issue is in point 3 and 4.

Problem the first. SPF and Michelle are not present to answer you. That is very apparent. So nobody currently wagoning rodent boy can even answer. Which makes your question an effort in posturing.

Problem the second. Who cares about someone having a 2 vote wagon containing people that may not even be up to date on the haps in a composition where there are multiple wagons greater than said number?

because he's being voted by people that usually have good reasons for votes and i wanna see what those reasons are

which is why i'm asking about it

[MacDougall]

Neither

[MacDougall]

are you finding it unreasonable?

No not at all quite reasonable keep at it.

if you're trolling : how is it unreasonable?

if you're not trolling : reaction tests don't work on me

The mindset required for you to take issue with that wagon requires the following steps.

1. Need to ISO Marmot
2. Discovery that he is slightly townie
3. Observation that he has a wagon
4. Recognisation that it requires flagging

My issue is in point 3 and 4.

Problem the first. SPF and Michelle are not present to answer you. That is very apparent. So nobody currently wagoning rodent boy can even answer. Which makes your question an effort in posturing.

Problem the second. Who cares about someone having a 2 vote wagon containing people that may not even be up to date on the haps in a composition where there are multiple wagons greater than said number?

because he's being voted by people that usually have good reasons for votes and i wanna see what those reasons are

which is why i'm asking about it

You expect to get an answer without tagging them? It's posturing lockwolf boi.

[Long Con]

For what its worth I recognise your disgust with me misreading you as your town reaction.

"Disgust" is a pretty strong word. I'm thinking your past good reads of me might have just been lucky, and your luck has changed these days.

[tedxtr]

are you finding it unreasonable?

No not at all quite reasonable keep at it.

if you're trolling : how is it unreasonable?

if you're not trolling : reaction tests don't work on me

The mindset required for you to take issue with that wagon requires the following steps.

1. Need to ISO Marmot
2. Discovery that he is slightly townie
3. Observation that he has a wagon
4. Recognisation that it requires flagging

My issue is in point 3 and 4.

Problem the first. SPF and Michelle are not present to answer you. That is very apparent. So nobody currently wagoning rodent boy can even answer. Which makes your question an effort in posturing.

Problem the second. Who cares about someone having a 2 vote wagon containing people that may not even be up to date on the haps in a composition where there are multiple wagons greater than said number?

because he's being voted by people that usually have good reasons for votes and i wanna see what those reasons are

which is why i'm asking about it

You expect to get an answer without tagging them? It's posturing lockwolf boi.

i put it in thread because i assume they'll read over and reply

and if not - i'm gonna ask again later

i really don't see the problem

[MacDougall]

For what its worth I recognise your disgust with me misreading you as your town reaction.

"Disgust" is a pretty strong word. I'm thinking your past good reads of me might have just been lucky, and your luck has changed these days.

That seems needlessly harsh.

[MacDougall]

are you finding it unreasonable?

No not at all quite reasonable keep at it.

if you're trolling : how is it unreasonable?

if you're not trolling : reaction tests don't work on me

The mindset required for you to take issue with that wagon requires the following steps.

1. Need to ISO Marmot
2. Discovery that he is slightly townie
3. Observation that he has a wagon
4. Recognisation that it requires flagging

My issue is in point 3 and 4.

Problem the first. SPF and Michelle are not present to answer you. That is very apparent. So nobody currently wagoning rodent boy can even answer. Which makes your question an effort in posturing.

Problem the second. Who cares about someone having a 2 vote wagon containing people that may not even be up to date on the haps in a composition where there are multiple wagons greater than said number?

because he's being voted by people that usually have good reasons for votes and i wanna see what those reasons are

which is why i'm asking about it

You expect to get an answer without tagging them? It's posturing lockwolf boi.

i put it in thread because i assume they'll read over and reply

and if not - i'm gonna ask again later

i really don't see the problem

Ok feels caught for the wrong reasons boi.

[tedxtr]

No not at all quite reasonable keep at it.

if you're trolling : how is it unreasonable?

if you're not trolling : reaction tests don't work on me

The mindset required for you to take issue with that wagon requires the following steps.

1. Need to ISO Marmot
2. Discovery that he is slightly townie
3. Observation that he has a wagon
4. Recognisation that it requires flagging

My issue is in point 3 and 4.

Problem the first. SPF and Michelle are not present to answer you. That is very apparent. So nobody currently wagoning rodent boy can even answer. Which makes your question an effort in posturing.

Problem the second. Who cares about someone having a 2 vote wagon containing people that may not even be up to date on the haps in a composition where there are multiple wagons greater than said number?

because he's being voted by people that usually have good reasons for votes and i wanna see what those reasons are

which is why i'm asking about it

You expect to get an answer without tagging them? It's posturing lockwolf boi.

i put it in thread because i assume they'll read over and reply

and if not - i'm gonna ask again later

i really don't see the problem

Ok feels caught for the wrong reasons boi.

i'm 99% sure you're trolling me

gj sir

[MacDougall]

Youre fun to play mind games with.

[Long Con]

For what its worth I recognise your disgust with me misreading you as your town reaction.

"Disgust" is a pretty strong word. I'm thinking your past good reads of me might have just been lucky, and your luck has changed these days.

That seems needlessly harsh.

I thought disgust was a harsher reaction. How do you explain being good, and then suddenly not being good? I didn't change my play.

[tedxtr]

Youre fun to play mind games with.

in my head i actually thought this was an elaborate scheme to troll me because of that exact post with "you're fun to play games with"

[Alison]

"nobody is good at mafia" is a hot take by tutuu

[Alison]

Anyway LC is either town or determined to bus a teammate so either way I'm fine letting him do his thing D1.

[BoKnows]

I'm getting the sense Mac is town

[Alison]

I'm getting the sense Mac is town

This is like when JPIC claimed he copped Mac D1 as town.

[BoKnows]

I'm getting the sense Mac is town

This is like when JPIC claimed he copped Mac D1 as town.

What does that mean

[MacDougall]

Im a cop lol

[MacDougall]

Youre fun to play mind games with.

in my head i actually thought this was an elaborate scheme to troll me because of that exact post with "you're fun to play games with"

It wasn't I just think you're lock mafia

[Long Con]

Anyway LC is either town or determined to bus a teammate so either way I'm fine letting him do his thing D1.

Who's the teammate, out of curiosity? Oddmerta? Or BoKnows?