The Elder Scrolls [GAME OVER]

[DaisyCloud]

You ever been to space, Daisy?

sorry. no I have not. I live up in the sky though. I think you are thinking of the other Daisy. she is cool and awesome. she is goat tier. I'm just a lowly sheep.

Aaaaaanyway Daisy, my other friend Jenna (he’s a guy, weird I know el oh el) gave me a ring for my birthday and I totes thought he was proposing but it wasn’t a proposal at ALL! Like i immediately burst into tears and said YES and he was totes surprised and said “I didn’t know it would mean that much to you” and I’m like “of COURSE it means a lot to me dummy! I’m 38 and I’m not getting any younger, tick tock!” Which was SUPES embarrassing.

Long story short, i was so embarrassed so I moved here

umm. whoa. but like guys don't just give their friend's rings especially if they are a girl. he should have expected that kind of reaction. not your fault.

FYI, my auntie was 52 when she got married. age is just a number.


also, umm this is fun. I never did this sort of thing in a mafia game.

I usually just read others doing it. yay! it's nice to goof around a bit. thanks ♡

also like, if that really did happen im soo sorry. but if they r your friend it should be cool. I wouldn't sweat it.

[DaisyCloud]

hi tim! hi!

[Timsup2nothin]

hi tim! hi!

Hi Daisy!!!

I think we should probably all vote Seanzie unless a really obvious wolf comes along, because he is at best intentionally useless and at worst an openwolf playing on TWTBAW. What do you think?

[Scotty]

wow you got nice teeth, you brush em or sumthin?

For real though, it’s been real nice togging witcha. After all, you the face of this estalishent. Repootaboe, for sure sista. Getchur self a fine young rapscalion who treats you right, pleeeease. Open your mind to love. To love is to live, that’s what *hic* that’s what my daddy always says- well, my step dad anyway. Hey, take care and don’t worry, the drinks are on me, everything’s on me

[Seanzie]

Since Syn pinged me just in time to see this...why Made?

I can, if forced, go along with "well, open claiming mafia is just what Seanzie does, it's NAI" and continue studying you, but Made throwing an "I'm just gonna post music vids, screw it" party is distinctly not in line with his town behavior and is a lot closer to his play in Double Elimination where he came right out the gates looking to eat the day one bus for his team.

I can get as far as this being NAI maybe, because sure, wolfMade maybe doesn't want to just die day one twice in a row and get a reputation as that wolf...but in that case why not just play his town game?

I didn't think, I just sorted. My kneejerk reaction is that Made should go in "up".

I don't think I normally open claim mafia. I just decide to this game. Nothing is NAI, everything is AI if given enough context.

I feel like you said a lot of words about Made just now, but actually reading it, I get the sneaking feeling you aren't actually trying to communicate with me. Consider yourself officially downed.

In case I am wrong though, can you explain what you're saying? You seem to say that Made is playing just like wolf!Made in a recent game where he wanted to give his town a path to victory by getting bussed, but then you're saying this is NAI? Why? because wolf!Made might not want to play that way? I don't see how this would be reason to think what you're seeing in Made is NAI at all (aside from the fact that nothing is NAI).

I was actually just asking you how you came up with Made as town. Based on his position in the list it seems like it was one of the "easy ones" and I legit do not see how it could be. This response to being asked about it sort of supports the idea that you just threw him onto the list in a predetermined "looks good here" position rather than actually considering what his alignment might be...so feel free to list me as "downed" because I feel pretty much the same about you.

I made it pretty clear upfront that the list was kneejerk reactions. Yes, Made was easy to have a kneejerk reaction for, and I spent about 1.5 seconds considering his alignment. Don't know what more to tell you there.

You didn't clarify what you were saying about Made. None of it makes sense. If you're town, help me find you by explaining please.

I'm on the new end of this commitment to being cooperative, but...just nah.

You have done nothing but open claim mafia, make up a reads list that when questioned on you take zero responsibility for, and you want me to "help you find me"? Screw it, you can just die and watch from DVC and decide if I am town, since you are apparently not interested in being found yourself.

I tried.

[VOTE: Timsup2nothin] aubergine

to do what, exactly?

To work with you if you're town. Sorry that I didn't have anything more to say about Made, but I answered as honestly as I could. I didn't think about it, I just added him to the "up" pile because that is where my kneejerk reaction told me to put him. I still haven't thought about him, and honestly in a game this size, there are a lot of players I probably won't have deep thoughts on for a while.

You on the other hand had a lot to say about Made. Great, nothing wrong with that, in fact having a lot to say is usually >rand town. But, what you said didn't make sense. I asked you to clarify, and you didnt. I asked you again, and you refused and instead just turned to saying that I've done nothing. I tried to work with you, but I can't work with that.

[Scotty]

hi tim! hi!

Hi Daisy!!!

I think we should probably all vote Seanzie unless a really obvious wolf comes along, because he is at best intentionally useless and at worst an openwolf playing on TWTBAW. What do you think?

Or you can vote jackofhearts with me.
In his town game, I’ve seen how he posts and it is NOT like this game

[DaisyCloud]

hi tim! hi!

Hi Daisy!!!

I think we should probably all vote Seanzie unless a really obvious wolf comes along, because he is at best intentionally useless and at worst an openwolf playing on TWTBAW. What do you think?

way ahead of you tim! I'm already voting him. you think I should keep my vote there? scotty thinks otherwise.

[Scotty]

also, umm this is fun. I never did this sort of thing in a mafia game.

I usually just read others doing it. yay! it's nice to goof around a bit. thanks ♡

also like, if that really did happen im soo sorry. but if they r your friend it should be cool. I wouldn't sweat it.

Also nice to meet you actually.

And no, none of that happened to me. But did you know that every time a bell rings, it happens to someone else? Every time. Greatest untold tragedy of our time. The media won’t report it, but the bartenders know.

Now for realsies: who is your biggest town read right now?

[DaisyCloud]

me in this game whenever I see tim do alot of talking. I want to get that soul read on him so I can think of him as part of a Mason but we don't have a private chat. I think the only game where I'm like is tim town or trickity tricking me was the very first game I played with him. I suppose it doesn't matter this early and maybe I will figure hi. out. but like I legit have in past several games randed town and he did too and I was like after a few of tim's posts was like oh! this is goat tim!!

Spoiler: show

please someone say something about the meme. I worked hard on my mobile to put it in. thank u ♡

[DaisyCloud]

oh man! only the first sent was supposed to be on top. the rest of the paragraph was supposed to be below the meme
:/

[Scotty]

Unless it’s their meta, I think KZA voting for low-hanging fruit Marmot right now is scummy. I can name about 5 other names that have more content and are objectively, subjectively scummier.

CMV

[DaisyCloud]

also, umm this is fun. I never did this sort of thing in a mafia game.

I usually just read others doing it. yay! it's nice to goof around a bit. thanks ♡

also like, if that really did happen im soo sorry. but if they r your friend it should be cool. I wouldn't sweat it.

Also nice to meet you actually.

And no, none of that happened to me. But did you know that every time a bell rings, it happens to someone else? Every time. Greatest untold tragedy of our time. The media won’t report it, but the bartenders know.

Now for realsies: who is your biggest town read right now?

my biggest? oh could I give you my 3 instead? that be KZA, longcon, and maybe syn.

[DaisyCloud]

Unless it’s their meta, I think KZA voting for low-hanging fruit Marmot right now is scummy. I can name about 5 other names that have more content and are objectively, subjectively scummier.

CMV

oh, rip. u think KZA is scumbly.

[KZA]

Unless it’s their meta, I think KZA voting for low-hanging fruit Marmot right now is scummy. I can name about 5 other names that have more content and are objectively, subjectively scummier.

CMV

are you trolling right now or

[Qwags]

KZA being scummy?

That's just how he plays.

[Scotty]

Unless it’s their meta, I think KZA voting for low-hanging fruit Marmot right now is scummy. I can name about 5 other names that have more content and are objectively, subjectively scummier.

CMV

oh, rip. u think KZA is scumbly.

Yeah, that’s a yikes from me.
Why is KZA town to you?

[Scotty]

Unless it’s their meta, I think KZA voting for low-hanging fruit Marmot right now is scummy. I can name about 5 other names that have more content and are objectively, subjectively scummier.

CMV

are you trolling right now or

CMV

[Scotty]

KZA being scummy?

That's just how he plays.

Where did you come from

[Seanzie]

Unless it’s their meta, I think KZA voting for low-hanging fruit Marmot right now is scummy. I can name about 5 other names that have more content and are objectively, subjectively scummier.

CMV

are you trolling right now or

CMV

What does CMV mean?

[Scotty]

KZA being scummy?

That's just how he plays.

Where did you come from

Like wtf you haven’t posted in 24 hours and this is your re entrance? To defend KZA? Why

[Scotty]

Unless it’s their meta, I think KZA voting for low-hanging fruit Marmot right now is scummy. I can name about 5 other names that have more content and are objectively, subjectively scummier.

CMV

are you trolling right now or

CMV

What does CMV mean?

Change my view

[KZA]

Sorry I'll try not to vote any more LHF like Marmot who's currently firmly in his scum meta and instead vote for Jack who hasn't entered yet

thanks @Scotty

[Timsup2nothin]

Spoiler: show

I didn't think, I just sorted. My kneejerk reaction is that Made should go in "up".

I don't think I normally open claim mafia. I just decide to this game. Nothing is NAI, everything is AI if given enough context.

I feel like you said a lot of words about Made just now, but actually reading it, I get the sneaking feeling you aren't actually trying to communicate with me. Consider yourself officially downed.

In case I am wrong though, can you explain what you're saying? You seem to say that Made is playing just like wolf!Made in a recent game where he wanted to give his town a path to victory by getting bussed, but then you're saying this is NAI? Why? because wolf!Made might not want to play that way? I don't see how this would be reason to think what you're seeing in Made is NAI at all (aside from the fact that nothing is NAI).

I was actually just asking you how you came up with Made as town. Based on his position in the list it seems like it was one of the "easy ones" and I legit do not see how it could be. This response to being asked about it sort of supports the idea that you just threw him onto the list in a predetermined "looks good here" position rather than actually considering what his alignment might be...so feel free to list me as "downed" because I feel pretty much the same about you.

I made it pretty clear upfront that the list was kneejerk reactions. Yes, Made was easy to have a kneejerk reaction for, and I spent about 1.5 seconds considering his alignment. Don't know what more to tell you there.

You didn't clarify what you were saying about Made. None of it makes sense. If you're town, help me find you by explaining please.

I'm on the new end of this commitment to being cooperative, but...just nah.

You have done nothing but open claim mafia, make up a reads list that when questioned on you take zero responsibility for, and you want me to "help you find me"? Screw it, you can just die and watch from DVC and decide if I am town, since you are apparently not interested in being found yourself.

I tried.

[VOTE: Timsup2nothin] aubergine

to do what, exactly?

To work with you if you're town. Sorry that I didn't have anything more to say about Made, but I answered as honestly as I could. I didn't think about it, I just added him to the "up" pile because that is where my kneejerk reaction told me to put him. I still haven't thought about him, and honestly in a game this size, there are a lot of players I probably won't have deep thoughts on for a while.

You on the other hand had a lot to say about Made. Great, nothing wrong with that, in fact having a lot to say is usually >rand town. But, what you said didn't make sense. I asked you to clarify, and you didnt. I asked you again, and you refused and instead just turned to saying that I've done nothing. I tried to work with you, but I can't work with that.

Yeah if you really wanna work with me you are gonna have to meet me halfway. "I hard claim mafia, make up a 'reads list' and then brush off questions about it, but if I say "you don't make sense" you are obligated to spoon feed me" just doesn't cut it. If anyone else is having a hard time making sense out of what I said about Made they are free to ask questions. In fact you are too. (for the record "that doesn't make sense" isn't a question) But notice that no one else seems to think I "didn't make sense."

I legit think that what I said about Made was pretty straightforward. I think you tried a simple "spin it back at you" tactic when I asked you about your read, and that was a good thing for you to try since really "oh well yeah I made this list but it isn't like they are really reads" is gonna impress anyone. I also think you might have just spun up this whole interaction to give you an excuse to plant a basically meaningless vote somewhere that you won't have to take responsibility for it.

In short, the only thing I think you have going for you is the TWTBAW reaction from your first openwolf claim. You haven't tried to solve. You didn't actually try to "work with Tim and see if I can find him town." You haven't given any reads that can be used to solve you post flip. You now have your vote parked in an off corner that will "justify" you having no established position on the wagons that are relevant. You are probably just a wolf since there is zero reason available to say that you aren't.

[Enrique]

I *am* engaged with the game right now but my feelings on most things are.... I don’t really care.... just not the biggest fan of Day 1s.

[Scotty]

Sorry I'll try not to vote any more LHF like Marmot who's currently firmly in his scum meta and instead vote for Jack who hasn't entered yet

thanks @Scotty

Not to defend Marmot here but he does this as town on D1.
And no, I don’t have examples- I would have to delve into the encyclopedia Brittanica of the site to find them.

It’s more that it’s an easily jumpable read without having to do much to support it. It reads as lazy and scummy and it reeks that you’ve settled there

[Scotty]

I *am* engaged with the game right now but my feelings on most things are.... I don’t really care.... just not the biggest fan of Day 1s.

I absolutely abhor D1’s. We know nothing and it’s all speculation. I’m also usually wrong in my initial reads.

[Seanzie]

Spoiler: show

I was actually just asking you how you came up with Made as town. Based on his position in the list it seems like it was one of the "easy ones" and I legit do not see how it could be. This response to being asked about it sort of supports the idea that you just threw him onto the list in a predetermined "looks good here" position rather than actually considering what his alignment might be...so feel free to list me as "downed" because I feel pretty much the same about you.

I made it pretty clear upfront that the list was kneejerk reactions. Yes, Made was easy to have a kneejerk reaction for, and I spent about 1.5 seconds considering his alignment. Don't know what more to tell you there.

You didn't clarify what you were saying about Made. None of it makes sense. If you're town, help me find you by explaining please.

I'm on the new end of this commitment to being cooperative, but...just nah.

You have done nothing but open claim mafia, make up a reads list that when questioned on you take zero responsibility for, and you want me to "help you find me"? Screw it, you can just die and watch from DVC and decide if I am town, since you are apparently not interested in being found yourself.

I tried.

[VOTE: Timsup2nothin] aubergine

to do what, exactly?

To work with you if you're town. Sorry that I didn't have anything more to say about Made, but I answered as honestly as I could. I didn't think about it, I just added him to the "up" pile because that is where my kneejerk reaction told me to put him. I still haven't thought about him, and honestly in a game this size, there are a lot of players I probably won't have deep thoughts on for a while.

You on the other hand had a lot to say about Made. Great, nothing wrong with that, in fact having a lot to say is usually >rand town. But, what you said didn't make sense. I asked you to clarify, and you didnt. I asked you again, and you refused and instead just turned to saying that I've done nothing. I tried to work with you, but I can't work with that.

Yeah if you really wanna work with me you are gonna have to meet me halfway. "I hard claim mafia, make up a 'reads list' and then brush off questions about it, but if I say "you don't make sense" you are obligated to spoon feed me" just doesn't cut it. If anyone else is having a hard time making sense out of what I said about Made they are free to ask questions. In fact you are too. (for the record "that doesn't make sense" isn't a question) But notice that no one else seems to think I "didn't make sense."

I legit think that what I said about Made was pretty straightforward. I think you tried a simple "spin it back at you" tactic when I asked you about your read, and that was a good thing for you to try since really "oh well yeah I made this list but it isn't like they are really reads" is gonna impress anyone. I also think you might have just spun up this whole interaction to give you an excuse to plant a basically meaningless vote somewhere that you won't have to take responsibility for it.

In short, the only thing I think you have going for you is the TWTBAW reaction from your first openwolf claim. You haven't tried to solve. You didn't actually try to "work with Tim and see if I can find him town." You haven't given any reads that can be used to solve you post flip. You now have your vote parked in an off corner that will "justify" you having no established position on the wagons that are relevant. You are probably just a wolf since there is zero reason available to say that you aren't.

[Seanzie]

Spoiler: show

I made it pretty clear upfront that the list was kneejerk reactions. Yes, Made was easy to have a kneejerk reaction for, and I spent about 1.5 seconds considering his alignment. Don't know what more to tell you there.

You didn't clarify what you were saying about Made. None of it makes sense. If you're town, help me find you by explaining please.

I'm on the new end of this commitment to being cooperative, but...just nah.

You have done nothing but open claim mafia, make up a reads list that when questioned on you take zero responsibility for, and you want me to "help you find me"? Screw it, you can just die and watch from DVC and decide if I am town, since you are apparently not interested in being found yourself.

I tried.

[VOTE: Timsup2nothin] aubergine

to do what, exactly?

To work with you if you're town. Sorry that I didn't have anything more to say about Made, but I answered as honestly as I could. I didn't think about it, I just added him to the "up" pile because that is where my kneejerk reaction told me to put him. I still haven't thought about him, and honestly in a game this size, there are a lot of players I probably won't have deep thoughts on for a while.

You on the other hand had a lot to say about Made. Great, nothing wrong with that, in fact having a lot to say is usually >rand town. But, what you said didn't make sense. I asked you to clarify, and you didnt. I asked you again, and you refused and instead just turned to saying that I've done nothing. I tried to work with you, but I can't work with that.

Yeah if you really wanna work with me you are gonna have to meet me halfway. "I hard claim mafia, make up a 'reads list' and then brush off questions about it, but if I say "you don't make sense" you are obligated to spoon feed me" just doesn't cut it. If anyone else is having a hard time making sense out of what I said about Made they are free to ask questions. In fact you are too. (for the record "that doesn't make sense" isn't a question) But notice that no one else seems to think I "didn't make sense."

I legit think that what I said about Made was pretty straightforward. I think you tried a simple "spin it back at you" tactic when I asked you about your read, and that was a good thing for you to try since really "oh well yeah I made this list but it isn't like they are really reads" is gonna impress anyone. I also think you might have just spun up this whole interaction to give you an excuse to plant a basically meaningless vote somewhere that you won't have to take responsibility for it.

In short, the only thing I think you have going for you is the TWTBAW reaction from your first openwolf claim. You haven't tried to solve. You didn't actually try to "work with Tim and see if I can find him town." You haven't given any reads that can be used to solve you post flip. You now have your vote parked in an off corner that will "justify" you having no established position on the wagons that are relevant. You are probably just a wolf since there is zero reason available to say that you aren't.

whoops, wrong button:P

[Kylemii]

it wasn't a random list, i picked the names on it specifically because they're players who i feel like i can potentially gauge reactions from, based on recent past experience, except for Bo and also, i guess, Nanook.

wait so you made a reads list and u had me on it and I haven't even posted yet and it wasn't a random list, it wasn't a jk thing? it wasn't day 1 lol mememing?

I ignored it when I read it, might have done a bit of smh, but ignored it.

only thing I can think of is you is scum now. complete and utterly scum. only reason you don't know jack squat is you probably mafia.

being mafia would make him one of the only ones in the game who does know anything

what is this take

yes okay, i guess i was sort of expecting a strong reaction and suspicion from daisycloud in response to being brought up, but now that you're mentioning it the reasoning here doesn't make sense. me knowing or not knowing things has little to do with alignment, and whether or not i know things was never part of the question in the first place, so it's a strange thing to say

[Qwags]

KZA being scummy?

That's just how he plays.

Where did you come from

The heavens above, to tell you that KZA isn't scum.

[Timsup2nothin]

Spoiler: show

I'm on the new end of this commitment to being cooperative, but...just nah.

You have done nothing but open claim mafia, make up a reads list that when questioned on you take zero responsibility for, and you want me to "help you find me"? Screw it, you can just die and watch from DVC and decide if I am town, since you are apparently not interested in being found yourself.

I tried.

[VOTE: Timsup2nothin] aubergine

to do what, exactly?

To work with you if you're town. Sorry that I didn't have anything more to say about Made, but I answered as honestly as I could. I didn't think about it, I just added him to the "up" pile because that is where my kneejerk reaction told me to put him. I still haven't thought about him, and honestly in a game this size, there are a lot of players I probably won't have deep thoughts on for a while.

You on the other hand had a lot to say about Made. Great, nothing wrong with that, in fact having a lot to say is usually >rand town. But, what you said didn't make sense. I asked you to clarify, and you didnt. I asked you again, and you refused and instead just turned to saying that I've done nothing. I tried to work with you, but I can't work with that.

Yeah if you really wanna work with me you are gonna have to meet me halfway. "I hard claim mafia, make up a 'reads list' and then brush off questions about it, but if I say "you don't make sense" you are obligated to spoon feed me" just doesn't cut it. If anyone else is having a hard time making sense out of what I said about Made they are free to ask questions. In fact you are too. (for the record "that doesn't make sense" isn't a question) But notice that no one else seems to think I "didn't make sense."

I legit think that what I said about Made was pretty straightforward. I think you tried a simple "spin it back at you" tactic when I asked you about your read, and that was a good thing for you to try since really "oh well yeah I made this list but it isn't like they are really reads" is gonna impress anyone. I also think you might have just spun up this whole interaction to give you an excuse to plant a basically meaningless vote somewhere that you won't have to take responsibility for it.

In short, the only thing I think you have going for you is the TWTBAW reaction from your first openwolf claim. You haven't tried to solve. You didn't actually try to "work with Tim and see if I can find him town." You haven't given any reads that can be used to solve you post flip. You now have your vote parked in an off corner that will "justify" you having no established position on the wagons that are relevant. You are probably just a wolf since there is zero reason available to say that you aren't.

whoops, wrong button:P

Tim: Why you have Made so high?
Seanzie: I put in no thought and cannot be held to account for things in the list I posted."

Yes Seanzie, I am taking that as you brushing off the question.

[Syn]

hi tim! hi!

Hi Daisy!!!

I think we should probably all vote Seanzie unless a really obvious wolf comes along, because he is at best intentionally useless and at worst an openwolf playing on TWTBAW. What do you think?

I think this is dumb

[VOTE: timsup2wolfin] aubergine

[Kylemii]

This is a terribly scummy post.

lol

mainly some WIFOM from yesterday. Mac posted a "scum" list and Falcon only asked about daisy from that list which was weird because her name was in the middle. Why not ask about them all, or go in order? Why Daisy????

Too much punctuation, going for the hard sell I see eh?


Also, it wasn't Mac, it was Kyle...going for a derpclear this early? BK! You should know better.

Punctuation for the situation.

I just forgot who said it tbh

How do you feel about Kyle's explanation for his "joke"/ "random" list?

I buy it. Who made that list early in the game, and when I played with him in Bee mafia he was a memer

Interesting...cuz you said it was Mac first, and that you forgot who said it, but now you recall that it was Kyle and that he did the same thing in a different game that happened awhile ago for you, like 4 games back... your memory has gotten remarkably better in a short period of time

what?

[Enrique]

if on the first day you have any strong feelings you’re probably some kind of sucker (*you* are the exception, kind reader)

but mostly i just don’t believe most (if, tbh, any) of these meta or joke-analysis discussions are leading anywhere, and i really wish i had something else to offer! at least there’s a handful of players i’m getting great vibes from.

[Kylemii]

I'm going to assume that any scumread on me is because you're salty that I'm better at the game than you while also not appearing to give a single shit about "taking things seriously" or "waiting for a large enough sample size"

It’s D1, so taking things seriously isn’t a valid argument a lot of the time.

But it surefire doesn’t make me want to read you as town in any capacity, cranny.

idk i think I've been uber townie

uber banned, gotta be lyft townie now

joke appreciated

[Timsup2nothin]

hi tim! hi!

Hi Daisy!!!

I think we should probably all vote Seanzie unless a really obvious wolf comes along, because he is at best intentionally useless and at worst an openwolf playing on TWTBAW. What do you think?

I think this is dumb

[VOTE: timsup2wolfin] aubergine

I've missed your constant tunneling so. How come you have turned into such a good player in so many ways but haven't gotten over the "just vote Tim always no matter what" thing?

[KZA]

Sorry I'll try not to vote any more LHF like Marmot who's currently firmly in his scum meta and instead vote for Jack who hasn't entered yet

thanks @Scotty

Not to defend Marmot here but he does this as town on D1.
And no, I don’t have examples- I would have to delve into the encyclopedia Brittanica of the site to find them.

It’s more that it’s an easily jumpable read without having to do much to support it. It reads as lazy and scummy and it reeks that you’ve settled there

this means literally nothing to me to be honest

[Syn]

hi tim! hi!

Hi Daisy!!!

I think we should probably all vote Seanzie unless a really obvious wolf comes along, because he is at best intentionally useless and at worst an openwolf playing on TWTBAW. What do you think?

I think this is dumb

[VOTE: timsup2wolfin] aubergine

I've missed your constant tunneling so. How come you have turned into such a good player in so many ways but haven't gotten over the "just vote Tim always no matter what" thing?

have you tried not being wolfy

[Syn]

I'm going to assume that any scumread on me is because you're salty that I'm better at the game than you while also not appearing to give a single shit about "taking things seriously" or "waiting for a large enough sample size"

It’s D1, so taking things seriously isn’t a valid argument a lot of the time.

But it surefire doesn’t make me want to read you as town in any capacity, cranny.

idk i think I've been uber townie

uber banned, gotta be lyft townie now

joke appreciated

i appreciate YOU kyle

[Scotty]

Just did a quick ISO of KZA (and it was quick)

They’re very hesitant to put anyone in the unfriendzone. Literally every read seems to be townreading people, which I’ve already said is super safe to do as scum.

lol why do people care about Gavial spinning a wheel

it's a standard D1 meme

i think u could say more than this if u really thought the idea was ass

gavial posting weird shit means nothing to me

people post weird shit in mafia games

sometimes shit smells

whos shit smells, KZA?

I don't really know yet

someone will probably ping me in like 20 hours and then they'll flip mafia

Uh huh

Their first scumread comes off as cavalier:

so Kyle gotta be Mafia for posting a random list then pretending it was meticulously crafted to produce reactions right

so Kyle gotta be Mafia for posting a random list then pretending it was meticulously crafted to produce reactions right

bad post

All my posts are bad

I like good posts, can you do good posts?

No

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Wtf is this

Sorry I'll try not to vote any more LHF like Marmot who's currently firmly in his scum meta and instead vote for Jack who hasn't entered yet

thanks @Scotty

Like thanks for defending your vote after I asked, since Kyle was the only scum read you’ve had up until this point

[Seanzie]

Spoiler: show

I was actually just asking you how you came up with Made as town. Based on his position in the list it seems like it was one of the "easy ones" and I legit do not see how it could be. This response to being asked about it sort of supports the idea that you just threw him onto the list in a predetermined "looks good here" position rather than actually considering what his alignment might be...so feel free to list me as "downed" because I feel pretty much the same about you.

I made it pretty clear upfront that the list was kneejerk reactions. Yes, Made was easy to have a kneejerk reaction for, and I spent about 1.5 seconds considering his alignment. Don't know what more to tell you there.

You didn't clarify what you were saying about Made. None of it makes sense. If you're town, help me find you by explaining please.

I'm on the new end of this commitment to being cooperative, but...just nah.

You have done nothing but open claim mafia, make up a reads list that when questioned on you take zero responsibility for, and you want me to "help you find me"? Screw it, you can just die and watch from DVC and decide if I am town, since you are apparently not interested in being found yourself.

I tried.

[VOTE: Timsup2nothin] aubergine

to do what, exactly?

To work with you if you're town. Sorry that I didn't have anything more to say about Made, but I answered as honestly as I could. I didn't think about it, I just added him to the "up" pile because that is where my kneejerk reaction told me to put him. I still haven't thought about him, and honestly in a game this size, there are a lot of players I probably won't have deep thoughts on for a while.

You on the other hand had a lot to say about Made. Great, nothing wrong with that, in fact having a lot to say is usually >rand town. But, what you said didn't make sense. I asked you to clarify, and you didnt. I asked you again, and you refused and instead just turned to saying that I've done nothing. I tried to work with you, but I can't work with that.

Yeah if you really wanna work with me you are gonna have to meet me halfway. "I hard claim mafia, make up a 'reads list' and then brush off questions about it, but if I say "you don't make sense" you are obligated to spoon feed me" just doesn't cut it. If anyone else is having a hard time making sense out of what I said about Made they are free to ask questions. In fact you are too. (for the record "that doesn't make sense" isn't a question) But notice that no one else seems to think I "didn't make sense."

I legit think that what I said about Made was pretty straightforward. I think you tried a simple "spin it back at you" tactic when I asked you about your read, and that was a good thing for you to try since really "oh well yeah I made this list but it isn't like they are really reads" is gonna impress anyone. I also think you might have just spun up this whole interaction to give you an excuse to plant a basically meaningless vote somewhere that you won't have to take responsibility for it.

In short, the only thing I think you have going for you is the TWTBAW reaction from your first openwolf claim. You haven't tried to solve. You didn't actually try to "work with Tim and see if I can find him town." You haven't given any reads that can be used to solve you post flip. You now have your vote parked in an off corner that will "justify" you having no established position on the wagons that are relevant. You are probably just a wolf since there is zero reason available to say that you aren't.

You are like... oddly stuck on that, and I don't know what to make of it.

I didn't brush off the question. I answered it. Again, sorry that I don't have detailed thoughts on 24 people barely 24 hours into the game. I presented that list exactly as it was, a "no thoughts, just sort" list. Your expectations are wack.

Pretty sure it was clear I was asking you to clarify. You still haven't by the way.

Yes I did. You refused to clarify.

I've given more reads than like 75% of players. They aren't super detailed and thought out, but neither is almost everyone elses? It's D1 dude. When I have something of substance to say, I will say it. Re: your expectations are wack.

Then vote me.

[Seanzie]

Spoiler: show

I was actually just asking you how you came up with Made as town. Based on his position in the list it seems like it was one of the "easy ones" and I legit do not see how it could be. This response to being asked about it sort of supports the idea that you just threw him onto the list in a predetermined "looks good here" position rather than actually considering what his alignment might be...so feel free to list me as "downed" because I feel pretty much the same about you.

I made it pretty clear upfront that the list was kneejerk reactions. Yes, Made was easy to have a kneejerk reaction for, and I spent about 1.5 seconds considering his alignment. Don't know what more to tell you there.

You didn't clarify what you were saying about Made. None of it makes sense. If you're town, help me find you by explaining please.

I'm on the new end of this commitment to being cooperative, but...just nah.

You have done nothing but open claim mafia, make up a reads list that when questioned on you take zero responsibility for, and you want me to "help you find me"? Screw it, you can just die and watch from DVC and decide if I am town, since you are apparently not interested in being found yourself.

I tried.

[VOTE: Timsup2nothin] aubergine

to do what, exactly?

To work with you if you're town. Sorry that I didn't have anything more to say about Made, but I answered as honestly as I could. I didn't think about it, I just added him to the "up" pile because that is where my kneejerk reaction told me to put him. I still haven't thought about him, and honestly in a game this size, there are a lot of players I probably won't have deep thoughts on for a while.

You on the other hand had a lot to say about Made. Great, nothing wrong with that, in fact having a lot to say is usually >rand town. But, what you said didn't make sense. I asked you to clarify, and you didnt. I asked you again, and you refused and instead just turned to saying that I've done nothing. I tried to work with you, but I can't work with that.

Yeah if you really wanna work with me you are gonna have to meet me halfway. "I hard claim mafia, make up a 'reads list' and then brush off questions about it, but if I say "you don't make sense" you are obligated to spoon feed me" just doesn't cut it. If anyone else is having a hard time making sense out of what I said about Made they are free to ask questions. In fact you are too. (for the record "that doesn't make sense" isn't a question) But notice that no one else seems to think I "didn't make sense."

I legit think that what I said about Made was pretty straightforward. I think you tried a simple "spin it back at you" tactic when I asked you about your read, and that was a good thing for you to try since really "oh well yeah I made this list but it isn't like they are really reads" is gonna impress anyone. I also think you might have just spun up this whole interaction to give you an excuse to plant a basically meaningless vote somewhere that you won't have to take responsibility for it.

In short, the only thing I think you have going for you is the TWTBAW reaction from your first openwolf claim. You haven't tried to solve. You didn't actually try to "work with Tim and see if I can find him town." You haven't given any reads that can be used to solve you post flip. You now have your vote parked in an off corner that will "justify" you having no established position on the wagons that are relevant. You are probably just a wolf since there is zero reason available to say that you aren't.

You are like... oddly stuck on that, and I don't know what to make of it.

I didn't brush off the question. I answered it. Again, sorry that I don't have detailed thoughts on 24 people barely 24 hours into the game. I presented that list exactly as it was, a "no thoughts, just sort" list. Your expectations are wack.

Pretty sure it was clear I was asking you to clarify. You still haven't by the way.

Yes I did. You refused to clarify.

I've given more reads than like 75% of players. They aren't super detailed and thought out, but neither is almost everyone elses? It's D1 dude. When I have something of substance to say, I will say it. Re: your expectations are wack.

Then vote me.

[Syn]

that highlighting thing is cool bean

[KZA]

Scotty you're calling me out for voting alleged LHF while voting a 0 poster, like what are you playing at here

And finding town first is a pretty standard strategy

[Scotty]

KZA being scummy?

That's just how he plays.

Where did you come from

The heavens above, to tell you that KZA isn't scum.

I’ve seen better arguments in One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish but ok

[Timsup2nothin]

hi tim! hi!

Hi Daisy!!!

I think we should probably all vote Seanzie unless a really obvious wolf comes along, because he is at best intentionally useless and at worst an openwolf playing on TWTBAW. What do you think?

I think this is dumb

[VOTE: timsup2wolfin] aubergine

I've missed your constant tunneling so. How come you have turned into such a good player in so many ways but haven't gotten over the "just vote Tim always no matter what" thing?

have you tried not being wolfy

Sure. That usually results in a whole bunch of people realizing I am not a wolf, and you tunneling madly along. This game good case in point. There are plenty of people in this game that buy their timfoil in the giant economy rolls, and even they for the most part have settled on me being towny enough for now. I get in this little bounce with Seanzie and here you come, excavator on high speed.

It's only frustrating because I just watched you play really well...in a game I wasn't in.

[Seanzie]

hi tim! hi!

Hi Daisy!!!

I think we should probably all vote Seanzie unless a really obvious wolf comes along, because he is at best intentionally useless and at worst an openwolf playing on TWTBAW. What do you think?

I think this is dumb

[VOTE: timsup2wolfin] aubergine

I've missed your constant tunneling so. How come you have turned into such a good player in so many ways but haven't gotten over the "just vote Tim always no matter what" thing?

have you tried not being wolfy

Sure. That usually results in a whole bunch of people realizing I am not a wolf, and you tunneling madly along. This game good case in point. There are plenty of people in this game that buy their timfoil in the giant economy rolls, and even they for the most part have settled on me being towny enough for now. I get in this little bounce with Seanzie and here you come, excavator on high speed.

It's only frustrating because I just watched you play really well...in a game I wasn't in.

This is >>>rand wolf IMO.

[Timsup2nothin]

hi tim! hi!

Hi Daisy!!!

I think we should probably all vote Seanzie unless a really obvious wolf comes along, because he is at best intentionally useless and at worst an openwolf playing on TWTBAW. What do you think?

I think this is dumb

[VOTE: timsup2wolfin] aubergine

I've missed your constant tunneling so. How come you have turned into such a good player in so many ways but haven't gotten over the "just vote Tim always no matter what" thing?

have you tried not being wolfy

Sure. That usually results in a whole bunch of people realizing I am not a wolf, and you tunneling madly along. This game good case in point. There are plenty of people in this game that buy their timfoil in the giant economy rolls, and even they for the most part have settled on me being towny enough for now. I get in this little bounce with Seanzie and here you come, excavator on high speed.

It's only frustrating because I just watched you play really well...in a game I wasn't in.

This is >>>rand wolf IMO.

Your opinion, as you noted regarding your reads list, isn't worth shit.

[Seanzie]

Hi Daisy!!!

I think we should probably all vote Seanzie unless a really obvious wolf comes along, because he is at best intentionally useless and at worst an openwolf playing on TWTBAW. What do you think?

I think this is dumb

[VOTE: timsup2wolfin] aubergine

I've missed your constant tunneling so. How come you have turned into such a good player in so many ways but haven't gotten over the "just vote Tim always no matter what" thing?

have you tried not being wolfy

Sure. That usually results in a whole bunch of people realizing I am not a wolf, and you tunneling madly along. This game good case in point. There are plenty of people in this game that buy their timfoil in the giant economy rolls, and even they for the most part have settled on me being towny enough for now. I get in this little bounce with Seanzie and here you come, excavator on high speed.

It's only frustrating because I just watched you play really well...in a game I wasn't in.

This is >>>rand wolf IMO.

Your opinion, as you noted regarding your reads list, isn't worth shit.

You're just upset that I've caught you:P

[falcon45ca]

where is quin, quags, and/or Marmot?

Last time I gave Marmot shit for not showing up D1 he was town, so I'm gonna say it's NAI for now.


Quin tho has actually been ITT, but barely. Not a good look IMO.


Qwags be qwaggin' hasn't occurred yet, but it's a new site for him...I think this is his 1st game on Synd. If he doesn't start Qwaggin' soon (posting reads that make no goddamn sense), then he's in my POE.

last time I played a game with Marmot, Marmot randed mafia scum and was lynched and I was town and town won that game. iirc, yiu was town and got misyeeted. oof. sorry bout that.. what is your point? also it was legit the only time other then this game that I played a game with them. I like Marmot’s pfp and he has a pleasant way of talking, or he did last game. im not shading Marmot by asking where he is. I wanna talk to him.

as for Qwags I think I might have played a game with him/her on MU. so wanted to interact with him/her and find out if we did or not.

I forget why I want to talk to Quin. I think me not getting anything about Quin is why I want to interact with him/her.

we barely talked last game. is this why u r talking about me and to me so much? sorry if I seem standoffish. I'm mostly used to people being really aggressive towards me. you did say a wordy durd earlier but it wasn't aggressive.

since you are offering up infos about peeps what about monkey and KZA?

thank you for your time and attention. ♡

KZA I'm pretty familiar with, and so far he's not pinging me...he's putting forth reads and trying to solve genuinely (from my POV), so he's a town lean for me right now.


I've never played with Monkey before, and I'm not sure if I've read any of their posts yet...I'm assuming they've posted? I'll go check and get back to ya.