Modern Family Hydra Mafia [GAME END]

[Akemi Hazelnut]

If youre really town and think poop can be a wolf here I need more than that

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It’s a game of probability. What do i think is more likely w/t or w/w? I go with w/t

I agree that the mana wagon was more villagery because of how rapid and the votes were purely off a snap read from something mana said. BT had a wagon i think constantly through the entire day iirc

not sure if i really believe this was a thought you had honestly? like obviously looking at the wagon it seems mostly villagery but the reasoning of how the wagon was built up based on the thing where mana self-preserved without knowing there were no votes on him is like. kinda silly. at best you can argue it's a nai mistake. i don't really get why jumping onto the wagon for that reason is villagery because it seems like a very nebulous thing to push someone based off of in the first place.

like why is it a villagery thought process to think mana making that mistake is wolfy? again, missing context. a lot of your justification for your reads seem like they're missing process. the speed and how quickly the wagon formed by itself isn't good enough my friend. why couldn't a wolf jump onto that wagon? mana was lhf and a suitable scapegoat. how rapid the votes piled on isn't sufficient reason to dismiss the votes being opportunistic. i don't get how that automatically makes the votes less likely to be opportunistic; it's an incomplete thought as far as i can tell. i guess villagers can jump onto cfd's, but so can wolves.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

it's villagery cause jpic wanted to vote on it it's not actually villagery

[Akemi Hazelnut]

tr/tspic
tr/nook
bt/tspic
bt/nook
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poop/tr
poop/nook
poop/tspic
poop/bt
???
ugh

ive definitely ruled some of these out before

i have tr/bt and tspic/nook just strictly ruled out, and it's still hard for me to wrap my head around any poop worlds but idfk

[trans rights]

If youre really town and think poop can be a wolf here I need more than that

i don't think poop explosions is a wolf at all. i even said in that post that i was still thought mac was super villagery. at the time i was clearing you/bottom text so poop explosions was within the last couple of my names, but you being a wolf now seems more plausible than before because i think i could've been overthinking the spew posts that i thought looked for you.

[Akemi Hazelnut]

it's villagery cause jpic wanted to vote on it it's not actually villagery

lol

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wait most of my takes in this post were pretty clear wtf

i said i thought you/bottom text were probably villagers and julinook had the least amount of wolf equity with two and through

squints

[Akemi Hazelnut]

It’s a game of probability. What do i think is more likely w/t or w/w? I go with w/t

I agree that the mana wagon was more villagery because of how rapid and the votes were purely off a snap read from something mana said. BT had a wagon i think constantly through the entire day iirc

not sure if i really believe this was a thought you had honestly? like obviously looking at the wagon it seems mostly villagery but the reasoning of how the wagon was built up based on the thing where mana self-preserved without knowing there were no votes on him is like. kinda silly. at best you can argue it's a nai mistake. i don't really get why jumping onto the wagon for that reason is villagery because it seems like a very nebulous thing to push someone based off of in the first place.

like why is it a villagery thought process to think mana making that mistake is wolfy? again, missing context. a lot of your justification for your reads seem like they're missing process. the speed and how quickly the wagon formed by itself isn't good enough my friend. why couldn't a wolf jump onto that wagon? mana was lhf and a suitable scapegoat. how rapid the votes piled on isn't sufficient reason to dismiss the votes being opportunistic. i don't get how that automatically makes the votes less likely to be opportunistic; it's an incomplete thought as far as i can tell. i guess villagers can jump onto cfd's, but so can wolves.

agree with this yeah

[Akemi Hazelnut]

wait most of my takes in this post were pretty clear wtf

i said i thought you/bottom text were probably villagers and julinook had the least amount of wolf equity with two and through

squints

yes i followed

[Akemi Hazelnut]

but also please write shorter posts

[trans rights]

but also please write shorter posts

no

also most of my posts have been short this game

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

it's villagery cause jpic wanted to vote on it it's not actually villagery

Why you do me dirty like that!

[Akemi Hazelnut]

i mean since i've made a point of a you/bt dichotomy i dont know if you pseudo clearing bt is reverse psychology or what

i at least agree with you that tspic is most likely a wolf i'm just concerned that you fit with him more than anyone but bt

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

I seriously think I left my wolf range back in day 1. Like I still don't really get a sense of why we're being wolf read

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gth i think it's tspic/akemi

poop explosions should just be v at this point. if we're trusting his nanook clear (which i think has validity to it) and the d1 wagon suggests bottom text is v, that's the only names left.

sure akemi did push on tspic but it always seemed like there were bigger targets akemi was gunning for

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

actually i think it's actually pretty villagery if bt is town right

[trans rights]

I seriously think I left my wolf range back in day 1. Like I still don't really get a sense of why we're being wolf read

continuously repeating this will not make you more villagery.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

gth i think it's tspic/akemi

poop explosions should just be v at this point. if we're trusting his nanook clear (which i think has validity to it) and the d1 wagon suggests bottom text is v, that's the only names left.

sure akemi did push on tspic but it always seemed like there were bigger targets akemi was gunning for

lol

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

no but there are a lot of things that /do/ make us towny

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

I seriously think I left my wolf range back in day 1. Like I still don't really get a sense of why we're being wolf read

continuously repeating this will not make you more villagery.

I still don't really get a sense of why we're being wolf read

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

to clarify that lol is from jpic. i am not in the business of laughing out loud.

[Poop Explosions]

Miss me?

Been multitabling hard but also somewhat demotivated for this game. Obviously this isn't exactly an unbiased perspective but my first impression is that Nook's "just sheep legacy ez" is total bs. We know everything they did and more.

Also BT always town but you already knew that.

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i mean since i've made a point of a you/bt dichotomy i dont know if you pseudo clearing bt is reverse psychology or what

i at least agree with you that tspic is most likely a wolf i'm just concerned that you fit with him more than anyone but bt

reverse... psychology? my point was that if mana was a v, and if wolves didn't seem like they cared who went over on d1, which seems decently likely based on how the votes turned out, that that wouldn't make sense in a game state where bottom text is on the chopping block. two and through/bottom text being the top wagons if they're both wolves means wolves have every reason to care.

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I seriously think I left my wolf range back in day 1. Like I still don't really get a sense of why we're being wolf read

continuously repeating this will not make you more villagery.

I still don't really get a sense of why we're being wolf read

you could just read my posts, you know. is my reasoning for why i think you're a wolf that esoteric?

[Bottom Text]

can i just flake until d5 or are we just solving in mylo and dropping it all again when we inevitably sleep anyway

[Julinook]

Despite my comment otherwise I actually have read everything today and I've been thinking about it a lot

I've been weighing things and I almost want to just yolo vote, I think mac has the gamestate basically correct (i have quibbles on some of the details, thats not important, I agree with many of his broader conclusions), and not to tip my hand but im basically never going to be able to scumread him, idk about c4 but mac is well out of his scum game imo, so not sure waiting a day actually clears much up for me or changes that tpic is mafia in almost every world.

So yeah kinda thinking that it might make sense to kill today, sleep tomorrow (assuming we get it right today, but fmpov thats a relatively safe assumption I think)

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

I seriously think I left my wolf range back in day 1. Like I still don't really get a sense of why we're being wolf read

continuously repeating this will not make you more villagery.

I still don't really get a sense of why we're being wolf read

you could just read my posts, you know. is my reasoning for why i think you're a wolf that esoteric?

As we are town, yes.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

from nutella's perspective the team is van/tsp, something it literally can never be
from van's perspective the team is nutella/tsp, something that it can be slightly more often but almost never
from my perspective i personally think everyone else is a wolf except bt because we're setting them up to get nightkilled

[Akemi Hazelnut]

gth i think it's tspic/akemi

poop explosions should just be v at this point. if we're trusting his nanook clear (which i think has validity to it) and the d1 wagon suggests bottom text is v, that's the only names left.

sure akemi did push on tspic but it always seemed like there were bigger targets akemi was gunning for

ah yes my "progression" on tspic fits your narrative pretty well huh

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if we are defenestrating today tspic's roleblock is going have nothing to do with where i vote

i'm not sure akemi is a wolf right now. i'm still thinking about it but that's where my logic leads me to.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Despite my comment otherwise I actually have read everything today and I've been thinking about it a lot

I've been weighing things and I almost want to just yolo vote, I think mac has the gamestate basically correct (i have quibbles on some of the details, thats not important, I agree with many of his broader conclusions), and not to tip my hand but im basically never going to be able to scumread him, idk about c4 but mac is well out of his scum game imo, so not sure waiting a day actually clears much up for me or changes that tpic is mafia in almost every world.

So yeah kinda thinking that it might make sense to kill today, sleep tomorrow (assuming we get it right today, but fmpov thats a relatively safe assumption I think)

I hate this post so much.

GTH wolves are nook/poop

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Despite my comment otherwise I actually have read everything today and I've been thinking about it a lot

I've been weighing things and I almost want to just yolo vote, I think mac has the gamestate basically correct (i have quibbles on some of the details, thats not important, I agree with many of his broader conclusions), and not to tip my hand but im basically never going to be able to scumread him, idk about c4 but mac is well out of his scum game imo, so not sure waiting a day actually clears much up for me or changes that tpic is mafia in almost every world.

So yeah kinda thinking that it might make sense to kill today, sleep tomorrow (assuming we get it right today, but fmpov thats a relatively safe assumption I think)

ATTN THREAD I HAVE CAUGHT A WOLF

[Julinook]

Despite my comment otherwise I actually have read everything today and I've been thinking about it a lot

I've been weighing things and I almost want to just yolo vote, I think mac has the gamestate basically correct (i have quibbles on some of the details, thats not important, I agree with many of his broader conclusions), and not to tip my hand but im basically never going to be able to scumread him, idk about c4 but mac is well out of his scum game imo, so not sure waiting a day actually clears much up for me or changes that tpic is mafia in almost every world.

So yeah kinda thinking that it might make sense to kill today, sleep tomorrow (assuming we get it right today, but fmpov thats a relatively safe assumption I think)

Its possible this is the sleep deprivation talking and its still optimal to sleep, not entirely sure

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

mindmeld with my partner

[Bottom Text]

help people townread me now i was supposed to come into today in the hotseat after mana flipped v

im scared

[Julinook]

Despite my comment otherwise I actually have read everything today and I've been thinking about it a lot

I've been weighing things and I almost want to just yolo vote, I think mac has the gamestate basically correct (i have quibbles on some of the details, thats not important, I agree with many of his broader conclusions), and not to tip my hand but im basically never going to be able to scumread him, idk about c4 but mac is well out of his scum game imo, so not sure waiting a day actually clears much up for me or changes that tpic is mafia in almost every world.

So yeah kinda thinking that it might make sense to kill today, sleep tomorrow (assuming we get it right today, but fmpov thats a relatively safe assumption I think)

I hate this post so much.

GTH wolves are nook/poop

I mean you have to push this line so

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

help people townread me now i was supposed to come into today in the hotseat after mana flipped v

im scared

we just caught a wolf

[trans rights]

gth i think it's tspic/akemi

poop explosions should just be v at this point. if we're trusting his nanook clear (which i think has validity to it) and the d1 wagon suggests bottom text is v, that's the only names left.

sure akemi did push on tspic but it always seemed like there were bigger targets akemi was gunning for

ah yes my "progression" on tspic fits your narrative pretty well huh

i was originally the person that wolfread tspic. sure, during every eod neither of us were really trying to kill tspic (except during d1, the vote just had no traction other than the walrus), but even in that lens i'm pretty sure my interactions with tspic are far less w/w than yours.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Despite my comment otherwise I actually have read everything today and I've been thinking about it a lot

I've been weighing things and I almost want to just yolo vote, I think mac has the gamestate basically correct (i have quibbles on some of the details, thats not important, I agree with many of his broader conclusions), and not to tip my hand but im basically never going to be able to scumread him, idk about c4 but mac is well out of his scum game imo, so not sure waiting a day actually clears much up for me or changes that tpic is mafia in almost every world.

So yeah kinda thinking that it might make sense to kill today, sleep tomorrow (assuming we get it right today, but fmpov thats a relatively safe assumption I think)

I hate this post so much.

GTH wolves are nook/poop

I mean you have to push this line so

i thought you were town until like 12 seconds ago tbh

[Julinook]

I think pushing me/mac as partners is a borderline outing perspective

[Poop Explosions]

Mac has obviously left his wolf range by a mile
nut has obviously left her wolf range by a mile
Jpic has obviously left his wolf range by a mile

Yeah fsr I think people are putting too much stock in ranges.

[trans rights]

I think pushing me/mac as partners is a borderline outing perspective

hold on weren't you hard pushing on poop explosions at eod1?

[Poop Explosions]

Calling Nook "caught" for that post is hilarious

[Akemi Hazelnut]

i mean since i've made a point of a you/bt dichotomy i dont know if you pseudo clearing bt is reverse psychology or what

i at least agree with you that tspic is most likely a wolf i'm just concerned that you fit with him more than anyone but bt

reverse... psychology? my point was that if mana was a v, and if wolves didn't seem like they cared who went over on d1, which seems decently likely based on how the votes turned out, that that wouldn't make sense in a game state where bottom text is on the chopping block. two and through/bottom text being the top wagons if they're both wolves means wolves have every reason to care.

wait

okay i'm confused now

you're saying if tat/bt were w/w, wolves would have made mana go over

ok i get that i guess

they'd still care between bt/tat?? no?


i think the wall made sense when i read it the first time but now i'm wondering if your logic is biased by tmi

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Mac has obviously left his wolf range by a mile
nut has obviously left her wolf range by a mile
Jpic has obviously left his wolf range by a mile

Yeah fsr I think people are putting too much stock in ranges.

Is this C4? You haven't played with me as a wolf

[trans rights]

yeah if the team is poop explosions/nanook/two and through why on earth is nanook spending the entirety of his d1 trying to destroy his team lmao

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Calling Nook "caught" for that post is hilarious

i mean on one hand it's nanook but also it's pretty bad

[Poop Explosions]

Mac has obviously left his wolf range by a mile
nut has obviously left her wolf range by a mile
Jpic has obviously left his wolf range by a mile

Yeah fsr I think people are putting too much stock in ranges.

Is this C4? You haven't played with me as a wolf

I've seen someone who has played with you as a wolf lock you town for being out of your wolf range when you were playing like this.

[Julinook]

I think pushing me/mac as partners is a borderline outing perspective

Like pushing a team of me tat and Mac with how long I stayed on Mac d1 and the eod vc is just

Its not really a team that exists, but tpic are forced into pushing it if they're mafia cause they can't afford to have me and Mac find each other and the other town find us

So yeah basically this is a world that doesn't make sense to push as town but he almost has to as mafia

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Calling Nook "caught" for that post is hilarious

We do not think this is a laughing matter smh