KZA wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 3:34 pm
Marmot and Moghedien wagons fo today??
How opportunistic of you.
I'm lock clear tho
That may be, but you're clearly floundering and grasping at any low hanging fruit you see. If I hadn't returned to the thread just now, you may not even have remembered that I exist.
I don't like this post, and it reminds me of how Mog handled Kyle in Double-Elim Mafia, where he responded to Kyle's questions with gaslighting and manipulation.
Am I really LHF? Maybe I am, I dunno.
How is that gaslighting? Or manipulation?
It's defensive. I don't necessarily buy that he knew that KZA was clear when he called him opportunistic. But I don't see what you see here.
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:31 pm
I think this is where my head was at when I left. Bo, KZA, and Made are all basically confirmed town. Tim and Scotty are probably town but not confirmed. Gavial, Daisy, Kyle, and falcon are all townleans.
Any objections with this list?
I don't really know the Bo reasoning for being town although Scotty alluded to it earlier.
I agree with your townleans with the exception of Falcon - why do you think that he's town?
My memory of falcon is that he's brazen and unabashedly all over the place, which I'm accustomed to seeing from him, and to me, it means that he isn't concerned with other players' view of him.
What's your take on him?
You're right that he's brazen and unfocused. I don't like that he doesn't seem attached to much of anything at all - he's willing to take potshots but he doesn't really have firmly held beliefs which means he's giving off more trying to survive vibes then trying to figure things out vibes.
What's a push of his that you liked in particular? Can you quote something for me?
WTF are you talking about?
And now I remember you engaging me on Marmot so that take could be unfair. Who are your suspects? Why are they good scum targets?
I'd love to see a flip within Marmot, Kyle & Mac. I have stated cases for all 3, they're in my ISO.
So I'm gonna call Stupid Sexy Moggers town. Falc having a meta read there is likely either a true read, in which case he's the most likely of us to be correct based on knowledge of meta, or it's a pocket attempt by scum!Falc, which is still likely to make Moggers town. And, y'know, at the super quickest of skims I don't really see SSF as scum anyway from my own baseline knowledge of his meta.
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:14 pm
Thanks, Joseph. It's a tenuous plan, but I don't think it's a mafia-written note. I'd just like to know some Shrines before I reveal the one in the note.
From Alison’s Rolecard:
“ Mephala - You may target a player to send them an anonymous message (via the Host) that Night. You may not identify yourself in any way, violate any rules, or compel your target to violate any rules. Your message may otherwise contain any content pending Host approval.”
Is there more of a basis for thinking it’s probably from town? Because sounds like it could be any joe shmo sending that.
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:31 pm
I think this is where my head was at when I left. Bo, KZA, and Made are all basically confirmed town. Tim and Scotty are probably town but not confirmed. Gavial, Daisy, Kyle, and falcon are all townleans.
Any objections with this list?
I don't really know the Bo reasoning for being town although Scotty alluded to it earlier.
I agree with your townleans with the exception of Falcon - why do you think that he's town?
My memory of falcon is that he's brazen and unabashedly all over the place, which I'm accustomed to seeing from him, and to me, it means that he isn't concerned with other players' view of him.
What's your take on him?
You're right that he's brazen and unfocused. I don't like that he doesn't seem attached to much of anything at all - he's willing to take potshots but he doesn't really have firmly held beliefs which means he's giving off more trying to survive vibes then trying to figure things out vibes.
What's a push of his that you liked in particular? Can you quote something for me?
The most recent occurrence I saw was his needling of me here.
I also came across this post, which at first looked fine, but now I'm questioning the legitimacy of the Flanders read. He used the word angleshoot, but that feels a little lazy, along with the suspicion of Mac. Also, he locked in a townread on Mog here based on the Flanders read.
@falcon45ca do you believe in the Flanders read that much that you're ignoring Mog's content?
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:31 pm
I think this is where my head was at when I left. Bo, KZA, and Made are all basically confirmed town. Tim and Scotty are probably town but not confirmed. Gavial, Daisy, Kyle, and falcon are all townleans.
BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:32 pm
Daisy, Falcon, Gavial being town leans... Nah fam
I'm counting on Gavial's consistent result-claiming to eventually resolve itself if he's lying. I guess it'd be more accurate to say I'm not at a point where I want to yeet him.
What about the other two?
Falcon seems like he's playing relatively safe and made a bad push on Mac.
Daisy I just get off vibes from her. She seems like she's not being 100% genuine. Part of me thinks that Falcon and Daisy are teammates.
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:34 pm
Also, we're never yeeting Bo today. The day yeet is our only chance to kill mafia (maybe), so using it on someone who's probably town sounds like a bad plan. Yes mafia will probably get an artifact, but we're also giving up a chance to yeet a wolf if Bo is telling the truth.
My vote for him was a joke based on that.
you're just saying that cause you want my hammer
We have 2 options if I'm understanding correctly.
1) Yeet Bo to erase the hammer. We enter Day 4 with no dead wolves and two more dead townies.
2) Yeet someone else. Mafia gets the hammer. We enter Day 4 with two dead townies, maybe a dead wolf, and also maybe the chance at catching a wolf tonight if Bo dies.
Yeah but if we don't kill a mafia we have 2/3 dead townies plus they get a hammer
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 1:16 pm
@Marmot
Hi welcome back my furry friend.
Anything to report from your shrine visits? Twould be helpful to hear some towny information from you
I learned someone's race last night, but I don't think that information will help anyone so I won't share it.
If I don't die today, I can learn more based on that tonight by going to another shrine.
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 1:16 pm
@Marmot
Hi welcome back my furry friend.
Anything to report from your shrine visits? Twould be helpful to hear some towny information from you
I learned someone's race last night, but I don't think that information will help anyone so I won't share it.
If I don't die today, I can learn more based on that tonight by going to another shrine.
That’s basically what you said d2. I see a pattern here
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 1:16 pm
@Marmot
Hi welcome back my furry friend.
Anything to report from your shrine visits? Twould be helpful to hear some towny information from you
I learned someone's race last night, but I don't think that information will help anyone so I won't share it.
If I don't die today, I can learn more based on that tonight by going to another shrine.
That’s basically what you said d2. I see a pattern here
You asked, and I answered. I'm sorry if you don't believe me, but this is what my role does.
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:31 pm
I think this is where my head was at when I left. Bo, KZA, and Made are all basically confirmed town. Tim and Scotty are probably town but not confirmed. Gavial, Daisy, Kyle, and falcon are all townleans.
Any objections with this list?
I don't really know the Bo reasoning for being town although Scotty alluded to it earlier.
I agree with your townleans with the exception of Falcon - why do you think that he's town?
My memory of falcon is that he's brazen and unabashedly all over the place, which I'm accustomed to seeing from him, and to me, it means that he isn't concerned with other players' view of him.
What's your take on him?
You're right that he's brazen and unfocused. I don't like that he doesn't seem attached to much of anything at all - he's willing to take potshots but he doesn't really have firmly held beliefs which means he's giving off more trying to survive vibes then trying to figure things out vibes.
What's a push of his that you liked in particular? Can you quote something for me?
The most recent occurrence I saw was his needling of me here.
I also came across this post, which at first looked fine, but now I'm questioning the legitimacy of the Flanders read. He used the word angleshoot, but that feels a little lazy, along with the suspicion of Mac. Also, he locked in a townread on Mog here based on the Flanders read.
@falcon45ca do you believe in the Flanders read that much that you're ignoring Mog's content?
Is it possible that SSF was scum, and so is Mog? Of course, I don't have a green check on them.
But I've nailed SSF as scum many times (& he's nailed me), we have what I'd say is excellent meta on each other. Flander's was town, I'd bet your life on it.
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:31 pm
I think this is where my head was at when I left. Bo, KZA, and Made are all basically confirmed town. Tim and Scotty are probably town but not confirmed. Gavial, Daisy, Kyle, and falcon are all townleans.
Any objections with this list?
I don't really know the Bo reasoning for being town although Scotty alluded to it earlier.
I agree with your townleans with the exception of Falcon - why do you think that he's town?
My memory of falcon is that he's brazen and unabashedly all over the place, which I'm accustomed to seeing from him, and to me, it means that he isn't concerned with other players' view of him.
What's your take on him?
You're right that he's brazen and unfocused. I don't like that he doesn't seem attached to much of anything at all - he's willing to take potshots but he doesn't really have firmly held beliefs which means he's giving off more trying to survive vibes then trying to figure things out vibes.
What's a push of his that you liked in particular? Can you quote something for me?
The most recent occurrence I saw was his needling of me here.
I also came across this post, which at first looked fine, but now I'm questioning the legitimacy of the Flanders read. He used the word angleshoot, but that feels a little lazy, along with the suspicion of Mac. Also, he locked in a townread on Mog here based on the Flanders read.
@falcon45ca do you believe in the Flanders read that much that you're ignoring Mog's content?
Is it possible that SSF was scum, and so is Mog? Of course, I don't have a green check on them.
But I've nailed SSF as scum many times (& he's nailed me), we have what I'd say is excellent meta on each other. Flander's was town, I'd bet your life on it.
Tony Soprano over here
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 1:16 pm
@Marmot
Hi welcome back my furry friend.
Anything to report from your shrine visits? Twould be helpful to hear some towny information from you
I learned someone's race last night, but I don't think that information will help anyone so I won't share it.
If I don't die today, I can learn more based on that tonight by going to another shrine.
That’s basically what you said d2. I see a pattern here
You asked, and I answered. I'm sorry if you don't believe me, but this is what my role does.
It’s just disappointing as all. Is that really the best info or even ability you have?
What shrine did you visit last night btw?
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Everyone should also be claiming shrines based on Long Con info imo. We can decide a next move from there but there's definite potential in clears and I don't see a lot of downside to it.
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:31 pm
I think this is where my head was at when I left. Bo, KZA, and Made are all basically confirmed town. Tim and Scotty are probably town but not confirmed. Gavial, Daisy, Kyle, and falcon are all townleans.
Any objections with this list?
I don't really know the Bo reasoning for being town although Scotty alluded to it earlier.
I agree with your townleans with the exception of Falcon - why do you think that he's town?
My memory of falcon is that he's brazen and unabashedly all over the place, which I'm accustomed to seeing from him, and to me, it means that he isn't concerned with other players' view of him.
What's your take on him?
You're right that he's brazen and unfocused. I don't like that he doesn't seem attached to much of anything at all - he's willing to take potshots but he doesn't really have firmly held beliefs which means he's giving off more trying to survive vibes then trying to figure things out vibes.
What's a push of his that you liked in particular? Can you quote something for me?
The most recent occurrence I saw was his needling of me here.
I also came across this post, which at first looked fine, but now I'm questioning the legitimacy of the Flanders read. He used the word angleshoot, but that feels a little lazy, along with the suspicion of Mac. Also, he locked in a townread on Mog here based on the Flanders read.
@falcon45ca do you believe in the Flanders read that much that you're ignoring Mog's content?
Is it possible that SSF was scum, and so is Mog? Of course, I don't have a green check on them.
But I've nailed SSF as scum many times (& he's nailed me), we have what I'd say is excellent meta on each other. Flander's was town, I'd bet your life on it.
BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 1:55 pm
Going through with the reads made by a randomizer isn't very smart either
you should see his normal reads
I've seen them. Part of me think Gavial is scum because he isn't saying things like
"There's always at least one scum in TSP/BoKnows/Marmot" all the time.
today we are going to make the heroic decision to stop letting the Mafia dictate terms and chop their head off instead and it will go down in Syndicate lore as the greatest moment in the history of this fine community.
That’s basically what you said d2. I see a pattern here
10 second turn around, love it
Fiddler on the Roof
