The Elder Scrolls [GAME OVER]

[Marmot]

If you're cursed, that means someone else went to chaos right?

[Scotty]

Oh, Daisy claimed to have some sort of 3P lazer eyes, and determined neither I nor gavial are 3P

[Scotty]

If you're cursed, that means someone else went to chaos right?

I don’t know why those are connected

[Marmot]

This is my current assumption of how chaos shrine works

If one person visits, they received a gift.
If multiple people visit, one receives a gif while the rest are cursed.

This could be wrong, but if it is correct, it means that you were cursed because someone else went to the chaos shrine and received a gift.

[Scotty]

LC is blind as a bat apparently and he’s very vague about everything when he visits shrines.

“I now know that nothing happens.

*unless*

And *unless* hasn't happened yet.”

Whatever that means

I think LC is 3P/scum

[Marmot]

I've not had any night interactions with LC, so I know nothing about him.

[Marmot]

Long Con's vote pattern does suggest possible scum equity. He hasn't placed a single vote on mafia yet.

[Marmot]

@Master Radishes what did you do last night?

[Kylemii]

i followed marmot to the vaermina shrine

[Kylemii]

what he's saying meshes with what we know of vaermina's shrine powers so far so i think i believe that he's telling the truth

[Scotty]

reasonably I can say that the wolves probably are out of razor shots considering five nights have gone by and they lost one on the second wolf flip anyways and also I haven't really been counting but I think /i/ have the last artifact so no one else has it

What was the point of this post, TSP?

[Marmot]

i followed marmot to the vaermina shrine

Why were you and Gav watching me last night?

[Vulgard]

If people want to figure out what Chaos actually does tonight, I can visit it tonight as well. My last visit there was N3 and I was removed from the D4 poll.

[Scotty]

i followed marmot to the vaermina shrine

So you have a watching ability as well as gavial and LM?
Was that Hircine?

[Scotty]

Vulgard, you’ve said that tracker and watcher are super powerful before. Which of those would you say is more powerful?

As an addendum, would you say bus driving or jailing is more powerful?

[Marmot]

reasonably I can say that the wolves probably are out of razor shots considering five nights have gone by and they lost one on the second wolf flip anyways and also I haven't really been counting but I think /i/ have the last artifact so no one else has it

What was the point of this post, TSP?

Azura’s Star - destroyed
Cuirass of the Savior’s Hide - destroyed
Dawnbreaker - destroyed
Mace of Molag Bal - presumably in the hands of 3P
Mehrunes’ Razor - presumably in the hands of mafia
Volendrung - presumably in the hands of mafia


TSP is claiming non-town lol.

[Kylemii]

i followed marmot to the vaermina shrine

So you have a watching ability as well as gavial and LM?
Was that Hircine?

i don't think it's the same as gavial has, but yea it's hircine

[Scotty]

reasonably I can say that the wolves probably are out of razor shots considering five nights have gone by and they lost one on the second wolf flip anyways and also I haven't really been counting but I think /i/ have the last artifact so no one else has it

What was the point of this post, TSP?

Azura’s Star - destroyed
Cuirass of the Savior’s Hide - destroyed
Dawnbreaker - destroyed
Mace of Molag Bal - presumably in the hands of 3P
Mehrunes’ Razor - presumably in the hands of mafia
Volendrung - presumably in the hands of mafia


TSP is claiming non-town lol.

That’s...what it looked like. But...why?

[Vulgard]

Watcher is stronger earlygame, tracker is stronger lategame.

Jailing is stronger than bus driving because it's easier to pull off a really good one.

[Marmot]

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

He could be trying to lay cover, but all the town artifacts were, as far as we know, lost from town players back on Night 4.

[Timsup2nothin]

i followed marmot to the vaermina shrine

Why were you and Gav watching me last night?

Tracking you, dear Marmot, makes perfect sense to me. You are certainly not such a perfect clear that there is no reason to keep an eye on what you are up to. But WATCHING you is flat out insanity. You are very very much in "never gets NKed no matter how long this game goes" territory.

Roles and shrines and stuff are completely independent of alignment, I believe. So what's a wolf to do if the shrines he can visit all give him strong town powers? Claim them as a reason to be off the block? Sure. But, the town will expect all these good investigatives to produce something though...

[Kylemii]

i followed marmot to the vaermina shrine

Why were you and Gav watching me last night?

from what i understand, gavial thought you'd be killed or targeted by something nefarious and i thought you might do something sharty

[Scotty]

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

He could be trying to lay cover, but all the town artifacts were, as far as we know, lost from town players back on Night 4.

My only Hesitancy with looking too far into TSP is whether or not you believe he would lay a full scathing case on falcon that ultimately led to his scum buddy’s death.

Weirder things have happened but that’s a bold mafia bus move

[Timsup2nothin]

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

He could be trying to lay cover, but all the town artifacts were, as far as we know, lost from town players back on Night 4.

My only Hesitancy with looking too far into TSP is whether or not you believe he would lay a full scathing case on falcon that ultimately led to his scum buddy’s death.

Weirder things have happened but that’s a bold mafia bus move

That's also a fully possible 3P move. Might have been town siding. Might have had some way to know Falcon had the razor and wanted it discharged because the Mace makes him vulnerable.

[Timsup2nothin]

PS I just got up after a very short night's sleep so I may not make sense.

[Scotty]

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

He could be trying to lay cover, but all the town artifacts were, as far as we know, lost from town players back on Night 4.

My only Hesitancy with looking too far into TSP is whether or not you believe he would lay a full scathing case on falcon that ultimately led to his scum buddy’s death.

Weirder things have happened but that’s a bold mafia bus move

That's also a fully possible 3P move. Might have been town siding. Might have had some way to know Falcon had the razor and wanted it discharged because the Mace makes him vulnerable.

True true.

So if tsp is 3p, what do we do with that?
If he wanted to say, come out with his win con, I’d be on board helping him out if we can do so

[Vulgard]

The way I interpret this is that it's a 3p slip.

TSP, what's your wincon? We might be able to work with it.

[Vulgard]

Not sure if this counts as a mindmeld with Scotty or not.

[Long Con]

LC is blind as a bat apparently and he’s very vague about everything when he visits shrines.

“I now know that nothing happens.

*unless*

And *unless* hasn't happened yet.”

Whatever that means

I think LC is 3P/scum

No, I am town. I can claim my full role if it will help you out.

Long Con's vote pattern does suggest possible scum equity. He hasn't placed a single vote on mafia yet.

And you think that makes me look like scum? Really? That's how I would play with TMI?

[TonyStarkPrime]

well to start with, i did target marmot. this is correct.

smh why'd you read the thread

[Timsup2nothin]

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

He could be trying to lay cover, but all the town artifacts were, as far as we know, lost from town players back on Night 4.

My only Hesitancy with looking too far into TSP is whether or not you believe he would lay a full scathing case on falcon that ultimately led to his scum buddy’s death.

Weirder things have happened but that’s a bold mafia bus move

That's also a fully possible 3P move. Might have been town siding. Might have had some way to know Falcon had the razor and wanted it discharged because the Mace makes him vulnerable.

True true.

So if tsp is 3p, what do we do with that?
If he wanted to say, come out with his win con, I’d be on board helping him out if we can do so

Since you have been on hiatus and I think @Vulgard has as well...in my last Sloonei game I died on like day ten screaming "WRF are you stupid townies doing, you don't even think I am a wolf and Alison has claimed to not be town???" Shortly after that Alison claimed victory as 3P...S O L O victory. And much whining was done by the townies that met her day one 3P claim with "oh, okay then, let us help you win."

TL;DR if you guys try to help the 3P win I will flip right the fuck out here. If TSP actually claimed 3P there then we are full stop on the wolf hunting for now and INCINERATING him. Period, full stop.

[TonyStarkPrime]

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imma personally use earthquake against your weezing. what's that? it has levitate? well my pokemon has moldbreaker.

[TonyStarkPrime]

i'm not 3p lol

[TonyStarkPrime]

I've just realized I called Scotty LC's partner, even though Scotty's the main LC pusher today not called Vulgard.

I don't know what I'm doing.

yeah i noticed this tbh

[Timsup2nothin]

i'm not 3p lol

There seems to be some issue with you claiming to have an artifact and only the 3P and the wolves currently having artifacts.

[Kylemii]

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imma personally use earthquake against your weezing. what's that? it has levitate? well my pokemon has moldbreaker.

you all get so angry over a little tiny picture of a mouse it's disgraceful

[TonyStarkPrime]

Man skimming back eod 4 is wild. Even more wild is Daisy’s last hour. Check this progression, because in a vaccuum- if I hadn’t seen how she played prior- this eod is bizarre and makes me sus of her:

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I'm not voting Marmot or tim.

Marmot doesn't seem to care if they get yeeyed or not.

@lost monkey you need to vote

@lost monkey you need to vote

Lost Monkey not voting is really not statistically different from you being on a one vote vanity wagon Daisy.

The real "could happen" choices here are me, Marmot, or Falcon, and you just said not me and not Marmot...so you should just get on Falcon so we know at a glance where you stand.

@lost monkey you need to vote

Lost Monkey not voting is really not statistically different from you being on a one vote vanity wagon Daisy.

The real "could happen" choices here are me, Marmot, or Falcon, and you just said not me and not Marmot...so you should just get on Falcon so we know at a glance where you stand.

yep do that

I might sheep the dead townie.

I know I already asked this, but who is the dead townie thst can vote today?

I know I already asked this, but who is the dead townie thst can vote today?

I forget.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine for science

Pretty scummy thing to do, with the scum having some sort of extra voting power.

Qwags I think and there has been no sign of them.

oh okay. thank u

@Qwags don't forget to vote. ♡

I'm not voting Marmot or tim.

Marmot doesn't seem to care if they get yeeyed or not.

Why not Tim @DaisyCloud ?

why not you?

vote for falcon or you're a wolf it's as easy as that

qwags probably not gonna vote

all the wagons is probably wrong

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergineoh

why does jack care for who I'm not voting tim when we got others not voting tim too.

I might vote tim. but it depends.

Because I think you’re town and as the game goes on, town needs to get more and more on the same page. I can’t have you off on your own or naysaying wolf wagons without really thinking about it.

And as much as I think Tim is a wolf, if you have strong reasoning that shows I’m wrong, I really wanna hear it.

That’s why I care.

if Marmot is town, which i believe he is based on something I think I read then tim probably is scum.

I could be completely wrong and stupid tho

this is a 3 way tie now

@Marmot please don't avoid my question

@Marmot please answer

one of mac's shrine powers was a night kill protection

why would mac protect KZA

Did he protect KZA?

do you know who protected kza? was kza protected

I don't know?! You're the ones talking about it lol

Did he?

just to clarify u r saying it wasn't you. you didn't

daisy unless you have some pretty hard info here this train of speculation is not correct

@Marmot please answer

I did answer.

did u or did u not protect kza?

when did u answer

domestic mean Marmot is wolf

does this*

@Kylemii Marmot says he didn’t protect kza

but what did he mean when he said he could and/or couldn't protect kza

idk.

but u see why I'm all weird on Marmot, tim and gavial

mostly Marmot and gavial.

She is hesitant to place a vote and even calls out for help in who we now know is wolf (LM) and even goes so far as to say ‘help me obi-wan’ dead unknown townie (qwags).
She spends absolutely no processing power on falcon, and completely deflects to this marmot claiming doctor business. This is already bizarre that she’s caught up in it because she starts this progression by saying she won’t vote for Tim or marmot that day. Her vote for falcon comes around 30 min before eod. I can’t be sure, but this mayyyy have tied it 4-4-4. I think. She doesn’t move it after jack and marmot jump on falcon to push it over the edge, but she demonstratively ignores the falcon dilemma the entire day.

Is that towny behavior? I’m bad at reading in to those kind of things apparently, but this is bizarre either way

while it was going on yesterday i thought it was like really bad but like idk it's daisy

[Kylemii]

oh the image doesn't load here lol. it shows up on mobile

[Kylemii]

i'm not 3p lol

this seems worse, isn't this worse?

[Kylemii]

@TonyStarkPrime may i ask you a question? did you start with the artifact or gain it over time?

[Kylemii]

please feel free to not answer that if you feel it is dangerous to do so for any reason

[Marmot]

LC is blind as a bat apparently and he’s very vague about everything when he visits shrines.

“I now know that nothing happens.

*unless*

And *unless* hasn't happened yet.”

Whatever that means

I think LC is 3P/scum

No, I am town. I can claim my full role if it will help you out.

Long Con's vote pattern does suggest possible scum equity. He hasn't placed a single vote on mafia yet.

And you think that makes me look like scum? Really? That's how I would play with TMI?

It's evidence of that yes. Are you telling me you'd play it differently?

Days 1-3, we didn't have a strong scum wagon except for falcon Day 1. But we did yeet scum Day 4 and 5, and you weren't on either of those wagons.

[TonyStarkPrime]

oh i don't have an artifact I'm just bad at counting and thought i could draw a razor shot

[TonyStarkPrime]

i have now counted

[TonyStarkPrime]

(ftr if jay and sloonei sent host posts in the same account it would be easier)

[TonyStarkPrime]

The search function on this site when looking through ISOs is buggy.

If I search “falcon” in daisy’s ISO, I barely come up with any. So like...everything I see in that progression makes it appear that Daisy is intentionally avoiding falcon.

But then I saw a post in a post where Daisy was quoting and responding to falcon’s shade thrown at her and I’m like “well that didn’t show up in her iso”

Seems like a flaw that only the exact wording comes up when searching for “falcon”. I have to search for falcon45ca to catch the rest.

control+f

[Vulgard]

Man skimming back eod 4 is wild. Even more wild is Daisy’s last hour. Check this progression, because in a vaccuum- if I hadn’t seen how she played prior- this eod is bizarre and makes me sus of her:

Spoiler: show

I'm not voting Marmot or tim.

Marmot doesn't seem to care if they get yeeyed or not.

@lost monkey you need to vote

@lost monkey you need to vote

Lost Monkey not voting is really not statistically different from you being on a one vote vanity wagon Daisy.

The real "could happen" choices here are me, Marmot, or Falcon, and you just said not me and not Marmot...so you should just get on Falcon so we know at a glance where you stand.

@lost monkey you need to vote

Lost Monkey not voting is really not statistically different from you being on a one vote vanity wagon Daisy.

The real "could happen" choices here are me, Marmot, or Falcon, and you just said not me and not Marmot...so you should just get on Falcon so we know at a glance where you stand.

yep do that

I might sheep the dead townie.

I know I already asked this, but who is the dead townie thst can vote today?

I know I already asked this, but who is the dead townie thst can vote today?

I forget.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine for science

Pretty scummy thing to do, with the scum having some sort of extra voting power.

Qwags I think and there has been no sign of them.

oh okay. thank u

@Qwags don't forget to vote. ♡

I'm not voting Marmot or tim.

Marmot doesn't seem to care if they get yeeyed or not.

Why not Tim @DaisyCloud ?

why not you?

vote for falcon or you're a wolf it's as easy as that

qwags probably not gonna vote

all the wagons is probably wrong

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergineoh

why does jack care for who I'm not voting tim when we got others not voting tim too.

I might vote tim. but it depends.

Because I think you’re town and as the game goes on, town needs to get more and more on the same page. I can’t have you off on your own or naysaying wolf wagons without really thinking about it.

And as much as I think Tim is a wolf, if you have strong reasoning that shows I’m wrong, I really wanna hear it.

That’s why I care.

if Marmot is town, which i believe he is based on something I think I read then tim probably is scum.

I could be completely wrong and stupid tho

this is a 3 way tie now

@Marmot please don't avoid my question

@Marmot please answer

why would mac protect KZA

Did he protect KZA?

do you know who protected kza? was kza protected

I don't know?! You're the ones talking about it lol

Did he?

just to clarify u r saying it wasn't you. you didn't

daisy unless you have some pretty hard info here this train of speculation is not correct

@Marmot please answer

I did answer.

did u or did u not protect kza?

when did u answer

domestic mean Marmot is wolf

does this*

@Kylemii Marmot says he didn’t protect kza

but what did he mean when he said he could and/or couldn't protect kza

idk.

but u see why I'm all weird on Marmot, tim and gavial

mostly Marmot and gavial.

She is hesitant to place a vote and even calls out for help in who we now know is wolf (LM) and even goes so far as to say ‘help me obi-wan’ dead unknown townie (qwags).
She spends absolutely no processing power on falcon, and completely deflects to this marmot claiming doctor business. This is already bizarre that she’s caught up in it because she starts this progression by saying she won’t vote for Tim or marmot that day. Her vote for falcon comes around 30 min before eod. I can’t be sure, but this mayyyy have tied it 4-4-4. I think. She doesn’t move it after jack and marmot jump on falcon to push it over the edge, but she demonstratively ignores the falcon dilemma the entire day.

Is that towny behavior? I’m bad at reading in to those kind of things apparently, but this is bizarre either way

while it was going on yesterday i thought it was like really bad but like idk it's daisy

Bruh.

[Marmot]

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

He could be trying to lay cover, but all the town artifacts were, as far as we know, lost from town players back on Night 4.

My only Hesitancy with looking too far into TSP is whether or not you believe he would lay a full scathing case on falcon that ultimately led to his scum buddy’s death.

Weirder things have happened but that’s a bold mafia bus move

That's also a fully possible 3P move. Might have been town siding. Might have had some way to know Falcon had the razor and wanted it discharged because the Mace makes him vulnerable.

True true.

So if tsp is 3p, what do we do with that?
If he wanted to say, come out with his win con, I’d be on board helping him out if we can do so

Since you have been on hiatus and I think @Vulgard has as well...in my last Sloonei game I died on like day ten screaming "WRF are you stupid townies doing, you don't even think I am a wolf and Alison has claimed to not be town???" Shortly after that Alison claimed victory as 3P...S O L O victory. And much whining was done by the townies that met her day one 3P claim with "oh, okay then, let us help you win."

TL;DR if you guys try to help the 3P win I will flip right the fuck out here. If TSP actually claimed 3P there then we are full stop on the wolf hunting for now and INCINERATING him. Period, full stop.

If you're talking about GoC, then Sloonei was my mafia teammate, and Epi/dunya hosted that one.

[TonyStarkPrime]

but cmon pinging your teammate in thread to save your other teammate is maybe a bit too much right

[Marmot]

[VOTE: MR] aubergine