The Elder Scrolls [GAME OVER]

[Scotty]

I’m back to thinking Radishes is the worst of Vulgard/MR.

Some of the things Vulgard has said sound so much more like a towny viewpoint than MR.

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

No nope I don’t allow it.
Vote me or Marmot.

I ain’t voting you, even though you’re begging me for it.

I ain’t voting Marmot because I frankly don’t believe him to be a viable mafia member. 3p sure but you gotta be smoking crack if you think mafia were fine with that wagon 4 days in a row if he were bad

Look at fuckin LM.
Got fuckin 8 votes within 3 fuckin hours.

But why am I even bothering talking to potential scum?

Ok look gavial, I’m gonna be perfectly frank.

You are in some strange tunnel and I think it would behoove you to step back and reassess some things. I know I have done this multiple times this game (ie my Tim 180). What you’re doing here is a detriment to town, it really is.

Could Marmot be bad? Sure. Sure he can. But just because you’re seeing red doesn’t mean everyone else does. You keep linking your justification and evidence as to why we should follow you to a wall post about how towny you are.
That tells me jack shit about why marmot is bad.

If no one is following your lead, take a step back and reassess why that is.

More investigative work, less trumptweeting

[Gavial]

why is Gavial so mean

Says the one who keeps fuckin calling me scum!

[Gavial]

I’m back to thinking Radishes is the worst of Vulgard/MR.

Some of the things Vulgard has said sound so much more like a towny viewpoint than MR.

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

No nope I don’t allow it.
Vote me or Marmot.

I ain’t voting you, even though you’re begging me for it.

I ain’t voting Marmot because I frankly don’t believe him to be a viable mafia member. 3p sure but you gotta be smoking crack if you think mafia were fine with that wagon 4 days in a row if he were bad

Look at fuckin LM.
Got fuckin 8 votes within 3 fuckin hours.

But why am I even bothering talking to potential scum?

Ok look gavial, I’m gonna be perfectly frank.

You are in some strange tunnel and I think it would behoove you to step back and reassess some things. I know I have done this multiple times this game (ie my Tim 180). What you’re doing here is a detriment to town, it really is.

Could Marmot be bad? Sure. Sure he can. But just because you’re seeing red doesn’t mean everyone else does. You keep linking your justification and evidence as to why we should follow you to a wall post about how towny you are.
That tells me jack shit about why marmot is bad.

If no one is following your lead, take a step back and reassess why that is.

More investigative work, less trumptweeting

Is that a fuckin slip?
Because I seen a bigger Mac 180.

[TonyStarkPrime]

i feel like i'm at the point where i'd just be kneejerking to say marmot town

[Gavial]

Again I have token a step back.
I have re-evaluated
That’s why I no longer think Vulgard and Radish is scum and from the events of LW makes a whole lot of sense why.

Marmot being scum is the most logical conclusion despite me before thinking he was town (yes I can be wrong but I’m not this time) and in result due to the Day 3 vote count analysis and this entire game state one of You/Tim is Marmot’s partner and you seem the most likely.

[Scotty]

literally the only reason I’m not voting your ass right now Is that Daisy “Independent Police” Cloud says you are not 3P.

[Gavial]

LM*
Why do I keep thinking he’s LW?
Monkey starts with an “M”.

[Timsup2nothin]

@Timsup2gettinserious
Thought you wanted to lynch me scrub?

Watching your conversations progress is waaaaaay too funny to want to chop you, but I am not gonna take a turn for everyone else's amusement...try LC, maybe he'll vote for you.

[Gavial]

i feel like i'm at the point where i'd just be kneejerking to say marmot town

You mean that you can’t say Marmot is town and you’ll vote them right?

[Gavial]

@Timsup2gettinserious
Thought you wanted to lynch me scrub?

Watching your conversations progress is waaaaaay too funny to want to chop you, but I am not gonna take a turn for everyone else's amusement...try LC, maybe he'll vote for you.

Oh GO!

[Gavial]

GO = Get Out

[Gavial]

Y’all are douches

[Gavial]

Y’all even read my Day 3 vote count analysis and my town case I gave to Daisy?
Are any of you even caring to help me out to convince Daisy she is wrong so she doesn’t end up MLing me later for an easy place for scum to win?
No, clearly not.
You all want scum to win.
Not my fault.
It’s your fault.
Not mine.

[Gavial]

If you can’t accept how bad your playing
Get out.
If you think I’m playing bad.
Tell me to get out and I gladly will

[TonyStarkPrime]

vote: gav

[Gavial]

vote: gav

Go to the Poll and click my name.

[Scotty]

Y’all are douches

Please stop posting. I..feel obligated to respond and the rusty tire gauges in my eyes are doing nothing

[Gavial]

Good Boy!

[Gavial]

@DaisyCloud
I’m doing this because I know if I don’t die scum will use you to vote for me so they have an easy win.
I’m not allowing that.
But when I die you need to trust me that Marmot is Def scum and his teammate is probably Scotty.

[Gavial]

Or Tim

[Gavial]

See @Scotty and @Marmot are chicken to vote me because they are scum and want to keep me around because they want to use me and Daisy as a way to win but I won’t allow that to occur.

[TonyStarkPrime]

idk maybe he's right

[Scotty]

I really wish Daisy hadn’t ever come out and cleared you as non3p. Twould butter up my conscience if I could just vote you and move on.

You would have to be the most brazen jestery wolf I’ve ever seen

[Gavial]

I really wish Daisy hadn’t ever come out and cleared you as non3p. Twould butter up my conscience if I could just vote you and move on.

You would have to be the most brazen jestery wolf I’ve ever seen

Then VOTE ME AND MOVE ON

[Scotty]

See @Scotty and @Marmot are chicken to vote me because they are scum and want to keep me around because they want to use me and Daisy as a way to win but I won’t allow that to occur.

Use you to win by...existing? Well, you’re certainly not helping town, so we’re doing what we can to cut our losses and work around you

[Scotty]

I really wish Daisy hadn’t ever come out and cleared you as non3p. Twould butter up my conscience if I could just vote you and move on.

You would have to be the most brazen jestery wolf I’ve ever seen

Then VOTE ME AND MOVE ON

Come back, Gav. I want you on my side.

[Gavial]

See @Scotty and @Marmot are chicken to vote me because they are scum and want to keep me around because they want to use me and Daisy as a way to win but I won’t allow that to occur.

Use you to win by...existing? Well, you’re certainly not helping town, so we’re doing what we can to cut our losses and work around you

Thanks for scum claiming but you know as well as I know that town is too blind sighted in this current game state to see that was an open wolf.
Use me to win by Daisy voting me, don’t pleasure yourself, me existing makes you scared.

[Gavial]

I really wish Daisy hadn’t ever come out and cleared you as non3p. Twould butter up my conscience if I could just vote you and move on.

You would have to be the most brazen jestery wolf I’ve ever seen

Then VOTE ME AND MOVE ON

Come back, Gav. I want you on my side.

No I will not submit to scum.

[Scotty]

This is getting spooky. Is this actually happening? I feel like gavial is getting exactly what he wants and I have no earthly idea why he wants it and it scares me

[TonyStarkPrime]

everyone to scotty on gav:

[Timsup2nothin]

This is getting spooky. Is this actually happening? I feel like gavial is getting exactly what he wants and I have no earthly idea why he wants it and it scares me

Take him at his word. He may have a poor grasp of the math, but he is correct in the principles. If he represents town in any kind of LYLO or MYLO we probably lose. No way in hell are the wolves gonna kill him for us. So ultimately, yeah, we probably have to kill him.

I just wish he would find some way to flip that script, because even with the good run of red flips getting us back in this thing it is not like we have mischops available to just throw away.

Mischop Gavial and a night kill puts us at 5/2/1 day seven. Whether the mystery deaths are 3p or townvig I expect one N7, and that means with a miss and an NK if the vig/3P hits town and takes win and leaves we are at 2/2 and lose. So we have this chop, one more, and the vig/3P shot to hit a wolf. We are too late to be pissing away at Gavial.

[TonyStarkPrime]

i legitimately think vul is far more likely to be town than gav though

[Timsup2nothin]

i legitimately think vul is far more likely to be town than gav though

Maybe so.

[TonyStarkPrime]

also if gav is a wolf I'm 90 percent sure i know who his partner is so that'd be nice

[TonyStarkPrime]

let's see if I can outpost scotty today

[TonyStarkPrime]

currently googling "good places to get pizza 2am"

[TonyStarkPrime]

no I'm not eating dominos google

[Timsup2nothin]

two AM is not the ideal pizza shopping time

[TonyStarkPrime]

boKnows
quin
nanook
daisycloud
marmot

Alison indie probably

Interesting list. Why Daisy?

we coulda interested telled him right away

[TonyStarkPrime]

Anyone here familiar with Quin? Wanna check his ISO & see if you find it as scummy as I do?

hm

[TonyStarkPrime]

I really REALLY don't trust Qwags and Made on the Marmot wagon

Qwags vs Marmot, eh?



I prefer Gav or Kyle

Mhm, he prefers a TvT.
Qwags/Falcon/Flanders/Daisy/Mac
Quin or Made as scum substitutes.

tbh gav's probably right here

[TonyStarkPrime]

Nothing like 8 votes coming in right at EOD.

If someone has a better suggestion for a lynch, put thou forth; otherwise we goin marmot or Qwags today. Get to it

Until we get a red flip, it’s gonna be hard goin. I should not be the one to lead town in these things, because I feel like Kevin in home alone, except if Kevin had a developmental disorder and probably died within 3 minutes of the movie

Hawt take, what if a sizeable chunk of the Maf are in the non-voters right now?

If my theory is correct, there's def Maf between Qwags & Marmot

bad news for marmot

[TonyStarkPrime]

Enrique did this ghosting thing in the early RDs in MtG as Maf. When he did enter the game, he kept everything in a past game state, he had a lot of difficulty moving things forward or addressing current state of affairs.

good look for vul

[TonyStarkPrime]

BK full of horseshit and probably wolfing with Tim.

What part of this has to do with Made's post re: you & BK? Where is BK full of "horseshit", and how has he been wolfing with Tim?


Why does it feel like you're slinging mud and making it up as you go along?

this is a good post to have a "how falcon is treating his teammates" index

[TonyStarkPrime]

aggressive Mac is great

What's your read on Mac?



I have kind of angleshooty reasons for TR Flander's slot, and Mac is feeling off to me right now.


It feels like before he had broad suspicions that were never fleshed out, and now that Flanders is not here to directly defend himself Mac is pushing the slot

said angleshooty reason: i'm a wolf and know he's town

[TonyStarkPrime]

Marmot has 2 posts regarding jack:

Falcon/DaisyCloud/Flanders/Jack/Quin


Probably not all scum the more I think of it but probably contains at least 2, so this is your best bet SK. Please don’t allow scum to clean sweep that’s garbage.

No/No/No/Idk/Yes

The lone “idk” on jack

This attitude is similar to my current view of the game. I'm happy to have a few townreads, but I haven't figured out who I think is bad yet. I feel like a lot of posts aren't that alignment-readable maybe... or maybe I skimmed through too much while tired. I think of Qwags for instance, and people loling and saying "Who is Quags?" comes to mind, or how about Mac's bunch of GIFs and votes without explanation. I think he has a whole team of suspects, from that post where he voted 5 players at once. I don't know why, I don't know if he's joking around or if he's just scum and wants to muddy the waters while relaxing in GIF-ville. I do think he could do a better job communicating and that he might not be posting in good faith.

Jack's rhymes are sick, but his obsession with Tim doesn't work for me at all. He just calls everything Tim says a lie, whoop-de-doo, but why?

I don't like Jack's rhymes. and, yeah Mac could use more memes/pictures to convey whst he needs to say. the gifs seem more vague.

and yeah jack does more of a this is bad but not say why. and he does thst when he thinks something is good too. like it means 0 if you don't explain why or how. sorry not sorry that just your word on it isn't enough. and last I checked song lyrics can be more then just 2-3 lines. same with poems. I get it's annoying to ppst in rhyme but if he was actually town and seems like sus by many he would put in more efforts.

since we are talking about both players I think Mac has done more to convey his process in the limits he has then jack. or wait actually it's the same. and jack can actually text and stuff. that probably sounds extremely harsh.

That's what I thought too until I actually went back and ISOd Jack. Are you seeing something different?

So he went back and ISO’d jack. What did he find? What is his opinion on him? We’ll never know. But he did ISO jack, so there’s that.

I think they could definitely be w/w

How are you reading Jack? I've got him as a town lean, but the interaction (or lack thereof) with Marmot you've pointed out warrants more digging. Imma ISO Jack.


I'd like to lynch Marmot, but I also want to lynch 3 players on his wagon. And then there's the question of what to do with BK

[VOTE: UNVOTE] aubergine

I mean I opened the day voting for him. So I definitely don’t town read him.
He’s putting in just enough content to skate by. But I’m not buying his reads as genuine. He could have done more D2 even with that rhyme lime time.

You want to lynch which 3 voting for Marmot? Between me, Mac, Made and Kyle?

I'd be ok with Made, Mac, Kyle, Marmot TBH.

two flips one wolf good news for the other two i... think?

[TonyStarkPrime]

@Scotty @falcon45ca
@MacDougall

You suspect Marmot. Read Marmot’s iso and interactions with Daisy and tell me if they look like partners. (Scotty, additionally, pretend I wasn’t the one to ask you.)

@Gavial

You suspect Daisy. Read Marmot’s iso and interactions with Daisy and tell me if they look like partners.

Going thru Marmot's ISO, tho he mentions Daisy a fair bit and engages her, I only saw 1 post where I could say Marmot was trying to solve her slot.


If Marmot flips red, Daisy def could be a scum bud

bad news for marmot

[TonyStarkPrime]

@Scotty @falcon45ca
@MacDougall

You suspect Marmot. Read Marmot’s iso and interactions with Daisy and tell me if they look like partners. (Scotty, additionally, pretend I wasn’t the one to ask you.)

@Gavial

You suspect Daisy. Read Marmot’s iso and interactions with Daisy and tell me if they look like partners.

Going thru Marmot's ISO, tho he mentions Daisy a fair bit and engages her, I only saw 1 post where I could say Marmot was trying to solve her slot.


If Marmot flips red, Daisy def could be a scum bud

Noice distancing.

Who ya lookin at parking your vote on?

Probably BK. I'd rather we lose the artifact than Maf get it, unless others can think of a better plan?


Without that element, I'm voting Marmot or Mac

good news for marmot

[Timsup2nothin]

That treatment of Mac isn't a good index. I'd say Mac more than any other wolf would have been distancing and being distanced. Part of powerwolfing.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Heeeeeey, Mac's bad look at that!

First impression. Gavial probably isn't mafia here after the way Mac tried to swing the yeet onto him yesterday. It's possible he hedged that it wouldn't bite, but I don't think that's the case, given who we're talking about.

I won't be on much tonight, but I'll take a look at some Mac interactions tomorrow.

So Gav's your teammate? Nice

racking these ones up