Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]

[hollowkatt]

I also think the claim timing was very towny (particularly in the heat of the moment - it flowed very genuinely and I don't think he would have had time to check with wolfmates before claiming if it were fake) even if the claim itself is bad.

There's an assumption here that Gavial would check with packmates about anything. Given that as town he is absolutely NOT any sort of 'team player' this assumption may be bad.

he strikes me as the kind of person who would wolf with the intention of causing chaos like Guillotina can, but without any of the panache

[hollowkatt]

anyways, y'all get on my wagon, and have a good game

[Duskfall]

anyways, y'all get on my wagon, and have a good game

sorry rand decided you dont get to play maybe next time

voting you now for transparency sake

[Timsup2nothin]

I was interested playing with new people.

Theres your first mistake

Lol.

Well, it started fun at least

What can we do to salvage your enjoyment

No more personal drama, enjoy yourself and have fun is all I ask for lol.

A request I can live with.

Have you caught up with the thread yet and do you have any reads?

I have not caught up and absolutely will not be even considering catching up before the night phase, if then. I am far more likely to start day two moderately fresh eyed and review the NK ISO for interactions, and that might be all the looking at day one that I do here. I'm sure that bouncing day one interactions against some vote movements and flips will provide a solve long about day three-four, and if I am alive at the time that'll be fine.

[Wiml]

@Wiml
this post is bad

Why would you claim that???? You wefe obviously tpwn anyway!

Because I can and I didn’t care.
There was some wolf oh I can’t remember that wolves name anymore but that wolf definitely made me claim it due to extreme annoyance.

ruminate on that one for a while the next time you want to think about whether or not the claim timing was towy

It's a really bad post but I think it fits better into the narrative of Gavial being town still.

I find it really hard to read that as anything but an emotional fueled outburst tbh and I think that's something that's much more likely to happen from an emotionally invested town instead of a wolf who is in a calculated deathtunnel to try to appear twtbaw.

[Wiml]

I also think the claim timing was very towny (particularly in the heat of the moment - it flowed very genuinely and I don't think he would have had time to check with wolfmates before claiming if it were fake) even if the claim itself is bad.

There's an assumption here that Gavial would check with packmates about anything. Given that as town he is absolutely NOT any sort of 'team player' this assumption may be bad.

I think you're right tbh. I still don't see it as fitting the "calculated deathtunnel" narrative though? Like it's not something that would come to my mind to do as a wolf in that situation as a million years and achieved nothing.

[hollowkatt]

anyways, y'all get on my wagon, and have a good game

sorry rand decided you dont get to play maybe next time

voting you now for transparency sake

some day I'll get my 3p win, but today is not that day
I think it's less Rand decided I wasn't playing, but that gavial decided I wasn't playing. Yes, I'm bent as fuck and yes I'm taking it personally, why do you ask? lol

[Wiml]

Was Sig always voting sleep? Just noticed it now.

[hollowkatt]

Theres your first mistake

Lol.

Well, it started fun at least

What can we do to salvage your enjoyment

No more personal drama, enjoy yourself and have fun is all I ask for lol.

A request I can live with.

Have you caught up with the thread yet and do you have any reads?

I have not caught up and absolutely will not be even considering catching up before the night phase, if then. I am far more likely to start day two moderately fresh eyed and review the NK ISO for interactions, and that might be all the looking at day one that I do here. I'm sure that bouncing day one interactions against some vote movements and flips will provide a solve long about day three-four, and if I am alive at the time that'll be fine.

If you're town take it home mate, if you're not, get rekt ;-)

[Timsup2nothin]

I also think the claim timing was very towny (particularly in the heat of the moment - it flowed very genuinely and I don't think he would have had time to check with wolfmates before claiming if it were fake) even if the claim itself is bad.

There's an assumption here that Gavial would check with packmates about anything. Given that as town he is absolutely NOT any sort of 'team player' this assumption may be bad.

I think you're right tbh. I still don't see it as fitting the "calculated deathtunnel" narrative though? Like it's not something that would come to my mind to do as a wolf in that situation as a million years and achieved nothing.

Your mind is in a very different location. It could come to Gavial's mind.

[Wiml]

Was Sig always voting sleep? Just noticed it now.

A quick check suggests they weren't.

[EnderWiggin]

It's too cold to get out of bed prenight so you all have phone Ender

[EnderWiggin]

Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?

[Timsup2nothin]

Lol.

Well, it started fun at least

What can we do to salvage your enjoyment

No more personal drama, enjoy yourself and have fun is all I ask for lol.

A request I can live with.

Have you caught up with the thread yet and do you have any reads?

I have not caught up and absolutely will not be even considering catching up before the night phase, if then. I am far more likely to start day two moderately fresh eyed and review the NK ISO for interactions, and that might be all the looking at day one that I do here. I'm sure that bouncing day one interactions against some vote movements and flips will provide a solve long about day three-four, and if I am alive at the time that'll be fine.

If you're town take it home mate, if you're not, get rekt ;-)

I'm kinda thinking that Esooa's accumulation of town reads coupled with my known capacity to lay waste to a wolf team if I get a few flips to work with will have me dead before I have to do any work, so save me a seat in dvc.

[EnderWiggin]

Also accusing me of lowered activity when I publicly said "nothing's happening I'm going out irl" makes me laugh

[Wiml]

Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?

Did he?

[hollowkatt]

What can we do to salvage your enjoyment

No more personal drama, enjoy yourself and have fun is all I ask for lol.

A request I can live with.

Have you caught up with the thread yet and do you have any reads?

I have not caught up and absolutely will not be even considering catching up before the night phase, if then. I am far more likely to start day two moderately fresh eyed and review the NK ISO for interactions, and that might be all the looking at day one that I do here. I'm sure that bouncing day one interactions against some vote movements and flips will provide a solve long about day three-four, and if I am alive at the time that'll be fine.

If you're town take it home mate, if you're not, get rekt ;-)

I'm kinda thinking that Esooa's accumulation of town reads coupled with my known capacity to lay waste to a wolf team if I get a few flips to work with will have me dead before I have to do any work, so save me a seat in dvc.

my presence there is entirely dependent on the existing population ;-)

[EnderWiggin]

I'm liking Nanook a little more after hating him early so that's good

[Don Wurzeloni]

Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?

I'm not lynching randomly - I have a case against you. My point was that if we say there are 4 wolves and 1 3p, it is better to focus on the 4 wolves first as there are more of them. And the 3p might town side or be otherwise resolved.

[Alison]

Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?

I'm not lynching randomly - I have a case against you. My point was that if we say there are 4 wolves and 1 3p, it is better to focus on the 4 wolves first as there are more of them. And the 3p might town side or be otherwise resolved.

this is not good mafia theory

[Herm]

Would you explain Sig to me please?

Only thing is other players being weirded out that I pushed a vote on an inactive.

[EnderWiggin]

1) I don't think we should vote HK. If there are 4 wolves then I feel it is too risky to get rid of the 3p first. In particular, it is better to get a wolf today when all the strongest townies are still here (you don't want to be relying on weaker townies in the late game)
2) A helpful wolf! Thank you for doing my job for me.
3) Ok I'll let you off this point
4) Do you have any links to old games I can have a look at?
5) I think scumslips are very important. In my second game (Mario Mafia 2 on MU) I caught Dolby in a scumslip, on day 4 I think. Dolby managed to argue his way out of it and I let it go. Dolby turned out to be a wolf and they won at F5

As 4 I have some but can't be assed finding them. Also only rarely actually claimed wolf as town.

Also I might out my old name where Pizza and I lolcat dueled to bus each other.

I mean sure but I'm intentionally claiming maf. This would be bold play not a scumslip

[Herm]

Was Sig always voting sleep? Just noticed it now.

Since they subbed in I think.

[EnderWiggin]

Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?

Did he?

See latest quotes. He didn't say randomly tho tbf

[Herm]

@Wiml
this post is bad

Why would you claim that???? You wefe obviously tpwn anyway!

Because I can and I didn’t care.
There was some wolf oh I can’t remember that wolves name anymore but that wolf definitely made me claim it due to extreme annoyance.

ruminate on that one for a while the next time you want to think about whether or not the claim timing was towy

Nah, claiming out of frustration is pretty towny.

[EnderWiggin]

Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?

I'm not lynching randomly - I have a case against you. My point was that if we say there are 4 wolves and 1 3p, it is better to focus on the 4 wolves first as there are more of them. And the 3p might town side or be otherwise resolved.

this is not good mafia theory

Hey look. Its one of your townreads telling you I'm right!

[Wiml]

Please nobody be too harsh on Wurzel though, he's a fairly new player still and I believe this is his first non-CFC game.

This isn't directed at anybody nor do I think this is happening but if you see an issue with his play please give him constructive criticism!

[Don Wurzeloni]

I'm going to bed shortly. Doesn't seem any point staying up for EOD when you have all decided to yeet HK. At least we can all start playing properly tomorrow and catch some wolves.

[Herm]

HK is a safe lynch until we get better reads unfortunately.

[Don Wurzeloni]

Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?

I'm not lynching randomly - I have a case against you. My point was that if we say there are 4 wolves and 1 3p, it is better to focus on the 4 wolves first as there are more of them. And the 3p might town side or be otherwise resolved.

this is not good mafia theory

Why not please?

[Herm]

I forgot you don't use that word here.

Yeet I meant.

[Herm]

Please nobody be too harsh on Wurzel though, he's a fairly new player still and I believe this is his first non-CFC game.

This isn't directed at anybody nor do I think this is happening but if you see an issue with his play please give him constructive criticism!

Wurzel you're great buddy!!!

[EnderWiggin]

HK is a safe lynch until we get better reads unfortunately.

It's not even a safe lynch. It's a necessary lynch. Outed 3p survivor is easy to pressure into scumsiding if still around in the endgame

[EnderWiggin]

Non-outed 3p survivor is less of a worry but anywho

[EnderWiggin]

What can we do to salvage your enjoyment

No more personal drama, enjoy yourself and have fun is all I ask for lol.

A request I can live with.

Have you caught up with the thread yet and do you have any reads?

I have not caught up and absolutely will not be even considering catching up before the night phase, if then. I am far more likely to start day two moderately fresh eyed and review the NK ISO for interactions, and that might be all the looking at day one that I do here. I'm sure that bouncing day one interactions against some vote movements and flips will provide a solve long about day three-four, and if I am alive at the time that'll be fine.

If you're town take it home mate, if you're not, get rekt ;-)

I'm kinda thinking that Esooa's accumulation of town reads coupled with my known capacity to lay waste to a wolf team if I get a few flips to work with will have me dead before I have to do any work, so save me a seat in dvc.

I've barely got to know you though! *Titanic theme music*

[hollowkatt]

@Wiml
this post is bad

Why would you claim that???? You wefe obviously tpwn anyway!

Because I can and I didn’t care.
There was some wolf oh I can’t remember that wolves name anymore but that wolf definitely made me claim it due to extreme annoyance.

ruminate on that one for a while the next time you want to think about whether or not the claim timing was towy

Nah, claiming out of frustration is pretty towny.

I wonder what would have made gavial frustrated? He'd been spending his posts shouting about how I'm a wolf, he was convinced he was on the right track. I was heavily using sarcasm and whatnot in my responses to him, so what could have made him frustrated.

it's not like I'd rebutted his claims, just called them dumb. I didn't fight back or try to show how I was town, I let him rant and called him a shouty goblin gobshite. If he's so sure he's right what possible source of frustration makes him claim to prove and verify his town bona fides. I think that's what needs to be ruminated on.

[EnderWiggin]

Top 3 townreads:
Esooa/Tim
Wiml so far (seems too easy town tho, will revisit)
Probably Gav/Ydrasse for now. Pending Ydrasse further content

Top 3 scumreads:
Dusk
Herm
KZA/Orange

Yeah I fit four scumreads in, watcha gonna do?

[EnderWiggin]

@Wiml
this post is bad

Why would you claim that???? You wefe obviously tpwn anyway!

Because I can and I didn’t care.
There was some wolf oh I can’t remember that wolves name anymore but that wolf definitely made me claim it due to extreme annoyance.

ruminate on that one for a while the next time you want to think about whether or not the claim timing was towy

Nah, claiming out of frustration is pretty towny.

I wonder what would have made gavial frustrated? He'd been spending his posts shouting about how I'm a wolf, he was convinced he was on the right track. I was heavily using sarcasm and whatnot in my responses to him, so what could have made him frustrated.

it's not like I'd rebutted his claims, just called them dumb. I didn't fight back or try to show how I was town, I let him rant and called him a shouty goblin gobshite. If he's so sure he's right what possible source of frustration makes him claim to prove and verify his town bona fides. I think that's what needs to be ruminated on.

Probably didn't like being called dumb.

[Duskfall]

Top 3 townreads:
Esooa/Tim
Wiml so far (seems too easy town tho, will revisit)
Probably Gav/Ydrasse for now. Pending Ydrasse further content

Top 3 scumreads:
Dusk
Herm
KZA/Orange

Yeah I fit four scumreads in, watcha gonna do?

4 scum is average in 17p why is this bad?

[hollowkatt]

HK is a safe lynch until we get better reads unfortunately.

It's not even a safe lynch. It's a necessary lynch. Outed 3p survivor is easy to pressure into scumsiding if still around in the endgame

it's not pressure, it's wanting to win. No point in making it to the end of the game only to throw it away b/c I want to be nice to the town team.

[EnderWiggin]

I'm not even gonna address Nanook's sus until I get more info from em.

[hollowkatt]

@Wiml
this post is bad

Why would you claim that???? You wefe obviously tpwn anyway!

Because I can and I didn’t care.
There was some wolf oh I can’t remember that wolves name anymore but that wolf definitely made me claim it due to extreme annoyance.

ruminate on that one for a while the next time you want to think about whether or not the claim timing was towy

Nah, claiming out of frustration is pretty towny.

I wonder what would have made gavial frustrated? He'd been spending his posts shouting about how I'm a wolf, he was convinced he was on the right track. I was heavily using sarcasm and whatnot in my responses to him, so what could have made him frustrated.

it's not like I'd rebutted his claims, just called them dumb. I didn't fight back or try to show how I was town, I let him rant and called him a shouty goblin gobshite. If he's so sure he's right what possible source of frustration makes him claim to prove and verify his town bona fides. I think that's what needs to be ruminated on.

Probably didn't like being called dumb.

Reads don't have feelings ;-)

[EnderWiggin]

Top 3 townreads:
Esooa/Tim
Wiml so far (seems too easy town tho, will revisit)
Probably Gav/Ydrasse for now. Pending Ydrasse further content

Top 3 scumreads:
Dusk
Herm
KZA/Orange

Yeah I fit four scumreads in, watcha gonna do?

4 scum is average in 17p why is this bad?

I'm joking because we were asked by the Don to provide top 3.

[EnderWiggin]

@Wiml
this post is bad

Why would you claim that???? You wefe obviously tpwn anyway!

Because I can and I didn’t care.
There was some wolf oh I can’t remember that wolves name anymore but that wolf definitely made me claim it due to extreme annoyance.

ruminate on that one for a while the next time you want to think about whether or not the claim timing was towy

Nah, claiming out of frustration is pretty towny.

I wonder what would have made gavial frustrated? He'd been spending his posts shouting about how I'm a wolf, he was convinced he was on the right track. I was heavily using sarcasm and whatnot in my responses to him, so what could have made him frustrated.

it's not like I'd rebutted his claims, just called them dumb. I didn't fight back or try to show how I was town, I let him rant and called him a shouty goblin gobshite. If he's so sure he's right what possible source of frustration makes him claim to prove and verify his town bona fides. I think that's what needs to be ruminated on.

Probably didn't like being called dumb.

Reads don't have feelings ;-)

Gav probably did tho.

[EnderWiggin]

HK is a safe lynch until we get better reads unfortunately.

It's not even a safe lynch. It's a necessary lynch. Outed 3p survivor is easy to pressure into scumsiding if still around in the endgame

it's not pressure, it's wanting to win. No point in making it to the end of the game only to throw it away b/c I want to be nice to the town team.

I mean basically same thing. My point is outed 3p survivor is basically another wolf unless wolves are stupid

[hollowkatt]

@Wiml
this post is bad

Because I can and I didn’t care.
There was some wolf oh I can’t remember that wolves name anymore but that wolf definitely made me claim it due to extreme annoyance.

ruminate on that one for a while the next time you want to think about whether or not the claim timing was towy

Nah, claiming out of frustration is pretty towny.

I wonder what would have made gavial frustrated? He'd been spending his posts shouting about how I'm a wolf, he was convinced he was on the right track. I was heavily using sarcasm and whatnot in my responses to him, so what could have made him frustrated.

it's not like I'd rebutted his claims, just called them dumb. I didn't fight back or try to show how I was town, I let him rant and called him a shouty goblin gobshite. If he's so sure he's right what possible source of frustration makes him claim to prove and verify his town bona fides. I think that's what needs to be ruminated on.

Probably didn't like being called dumb.

Reads don't have feelings ;-)

Gav probably did tho.

eh

[EnderWiggin]

Also gonna wait for Don to accuse me of being active just before day end

[hollowkatt]

HK is a safe lynch until we get better reads unfortunately.

It's not even a safe lynch. It's a necessary lynch. Outed 3p survivor is easy to pressure into scumsiding if still around in the endgame

it's not pressure, it's wanting to win. No point in making it to the end of the game only to throw it away b/c I want to be nice to the town team.

I mean basically same thing. My point is outed 3p survivor is basically another wolf unless wolves are stupid

only if the wolves are in a position to win, but yeah, I need to die

[EnderWiggin]

@sig Do something towny

[sig]

@sig Do something towny

I'm not mafia gooooo town
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