he strikes me as the kind of person who would wolf with the intention of causing chaos like Guillotina can, but without any of the panacheTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:00 pmThere's an assumption here that Gavial would check with packmates about anything. Given that as town he is absolutely NOT any sort of 'team player' this assumption may be bad.
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sorry rand decided you dont get to play maybe next time
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I have not caught up and absolutely will not be even considering catching up before the night phase, if then. I am far more likely to start day two moderately fresh eyed and review the NK ISO for interactions, and that might be all the looking at day one that I do here. I'm sure that bouncing day one interactions against some vote movements and flips will provide a solve long about day three-four, and if I am alive at the time that'll be fine.Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:58 pmHave you caught up with the thread yet and do you have any reads?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:45 pmA request I can live with.Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:31 pmNo more personal drama, enjoy yourself and have fun is all I ask for lol.
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It's a really bad post but I think it fits better into the narrative of Gavial being town still.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:59 pm @Wiml
this post is badruminate on that one for a while the next time you want to think about whether or not the claim timing was towy
I find it really hard to read that as anything but an emotional fueled outburst tbh and I think that's something that's much more likely to happen from an emotionally invested town instead of a wolf who is in a calculated deathtunnel to try to appear twtbaw.
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I think you're right tbh. I still don't see it as fitting the "calculated deathtunnel" narrative though? Like it's not something that would come to my mind to do as a wolf in that situation as a million years and achieved nothing.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:00 pmThere's an assumption here that Gavial would check with packmates about anything. Given that as town he is absolutely NOT any sort of 'team player' this assumption may be bad.
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some day I'll get my 3p win, but today is not that day
I think it's less Rand decided I wasn't playing, but that gavial decided I wasn't playing. Yes, I'm bent as fuck and yes I'm taking it personally, why do you ask? lol
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Was Sig always voting sleep? Just noticed it now.
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If you're town take it home mate, if you're not, get rekt ;-)Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:04 pmI have not caught up and absolutely will not be even considering catching up before the night phase, if then. I am far more likely to start day two moderately fresh eyed and review the NK ISO for interactions, and that might be all the looking at day one that I do here. I'm sure that bouncing day one interactions against some vote movements and flips will provide a solve long about day three-four, and if I am alive at the time that'll be fine.Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:58 pmHave you caught up with the thread yet and do you have any reads?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:45 pmA request I can live with.
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Your mind is in a very different location. It could come to Gavial's mind.Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:06 pmI think you're right tbh. I still don't see it as fitting the "calculated deathtunnel" narrative though? Like it's not something that would come to my mind to do as a wolf in that situation as a million years and achieved nothing.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:00 pmThere's an assumption here that Gavial would check with packmates about anything. Given that as town he is absolutely NOT any sort of 'team player' this assumption may be bad.
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It's too cold to get out of bed prenight so you all have phone Ender
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Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?
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I'm kinda thinking that Esooa's accumulation of town reads coupled with my known capacity to lay waste to a wolf team if I get a few flips to work with will have me dead before I have to do any work, so save me a seat in dvc.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:08 pmIf you're town take it home mate, if you're not, get rekt ;-)Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:04 pmI have not caught up and absolutely will not be even considering catching up before the night phase, if then. I am far more likely to start day two moderately fresh eyed and review the NK ISO for interactions, and that might be all the looking at day one that I do here. I'm sure that bouncing day one interactions against some vote movements and flips will provide a solve long about day three-four, and if I am alive at the time that'll be fine.Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:58 pmHave you caught up with the thread yet and do you have any reads?
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Also accusing me of lowered activity when I publicly said "nothing's happening I'm going out irl" makes me laugh
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Did he?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:11 pm Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?
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my presence there is entirely dependent on the existing population ;-)Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:12 pmI'm kinda thinking that Esooa's accumulation of town reads coupled with my known capacity to lay waste to a wolf team if I get a few flips to work with will have me dead before I have to do any work, so save me a seat in dvc.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:08 pmIf you're town take it home mate, if you're not, get rekt ;-)Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:04 pmI have not caught up and absolutely will not be even considering catching up before the night phase, if then. I am far more likely to start day two moderately fresh eyed and review the NK ISO for interactions, and that might be all the looking at day one that I do here. I'm sure that bouncing day one interactions against some vote movements and flips will provide a solve long about day three-four, and if I am alive at the time that'll be fine.Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:58 pmHave you caught up with the thread yet and do you have any reads?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:45 pmA request I can live with.
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I'm liking Nanook a little more after hating him early so that's good
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I'm not lynching randomly - I have a case against you. My point was that if we say there are 4 wolves and 1 3p, it is better to focus on the 4 wolves first as there are more of them. And the 3p might town side or be otherwise resolved.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:11 pm Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?
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this is not good mafia theoryDon Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:15 pmI'm not lynching randomly - I have a case against you. My point was that if we say there are 4 wolves and 1 3p, it is better to focus on the 4 wolves first as there are more of them. And the 3p might town side or be otherwise resolved.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:11 pm Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?
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Only thing is other players being weirded out that I pushed a vote on an inactive.Wiml wrote:Would you explain Sig to me please?
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As 4 I have some but can't be assed finding them. Also only rarely actually claimed wolf as town.Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:35 am1) I don't think we should vote HK. If there are 4 wolves then I feel it is too risky to get rid of the 3p first. In particular, it is better to get a wolf today when all the strongest townies are still here (you don't want to be relying on weaker townies in the late game)
2) A helpful wolf! Thank you for doing my job for me.
3) Ok I'll let you off this point
4) Do you have any links to old games I can have a look at?
5) I think scumslips are very important. In my second game (Mario Mafia 2 on MU) I caught Dolby in a scumslip, on day 4 I think. Dolby managed to argue his way out of it and I let it go. Dolby turned out to be a wolf and they won at F5
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I mean sure but I'm intentionally claiming maf. This would be bold play not a scumslip
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See latest quotes. He didn't say randomly tho tbfWiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:14 pmDid he?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:11 pm Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?
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Nah, claiming out of frustration is pretty towny.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:59 pm @Wiml
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Hey look. Its one of your townreads telling you I'm right!Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:17 pmthis is not good mafia theoryDon Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:15 pmI'm not lynching randomly - I have a case against you. My point was that if we say there are 4 wolves and 1 3p, it is better to focus on the 4 wolves first as there are more of them. And the 3p might town side or be otherwise resolved.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:11 pm Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?
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Please nobody be too harsh on Wurzel though, he's a fairly new player still and I believe this is his first non-CFC game.
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I'm going to bed shortly. Doesn't seem any point staying up for EOD when you have all decided to yeet HK. At least we can all start playing properly tomorrow and catch some wolves.
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HK is a safe lynch until we get better reads unfortunately.
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Why not please?Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:17 pmthis is not good mafia theoryDon Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:15 pmI'm not lynching randomly - I have a case against you. My point was that if we say there are 4 wolves and 1 3p, it is better to focus on the 4 wolves first as there are more of them. And the 3p might town side or be otherwise resolved.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:11 pm Did Don really suggest lynching randomly is better than lynching potential scumsiding 3p?
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I forgot you don't use that word here.
Yeet I meant.
Yeet I meant.
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Wurzel you're great buddy!!!Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:22 pm Please nobody be too harsh on Wurzel though, he's a fairly new player still and I believe this is his first non-CFC game.
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It's not even a safe lynch. It's a necessary lynch. Outed 3p survivor is easy to pressure into scumsiding if still around in the endgame
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Non-outed 3p survivor is less of a worry but anywho
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I've barely got to know you though! *Titanic theme music*Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:12 pmI'm kinda thinking that Esooa's accumulation of town reads coupled with my known capacity to lay waste to a wolf team if I get a few flips to work with will have me dead before I have to do any work, so save me a seat in dvc.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:08 pmIf you're town take it home mate, if you're not, get rekt ;-)Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:04 pmI have not caught up and absolutely will not be even considering catching up before the night phase, if then. I am far more likely to start day two moderately fresh eyed and review the NK ISO for interactions, and that might be all the looking at day one that I do here. I'm sure that bouncing day one interactions against some vote movements and flips will provide a solve long about day three-four, and if I am alive at the time that'll be fine.Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:58 pmHave you caught up with the thread yet and do you have any reads?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:45 pmA request I can live with.
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I wonder what would have made gavial frustrated? He'd been spending his posts shouting about how I'm a wolf, he was convinced he was on the right track. I was heavily using sarcasm and whatnot in my responses to him, so what could have made him frustrated.Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:22 pmNah, claiming out of frustration is pretty towny.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:59 pm @Wiml
this post is badruminate on that one for a while the next time you want to think about whether or not the claim timing was towy
it's not like I'd rebutted his claims, just called them dumb. I didn't fight back or try to show how I was town, I let him rant and called him a shouty goblin gobshite. If he's so sure he's right what possible source of frustration makes him claim to prove and verify his town bona fides. I think that's what needs to be ruminated on.
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Top 3 townreads:
Esooa/Tim
Wiml so far (seems too easy town tho, will revisit)
Probably Gav/Ydrasse for now. Pending Ydrasse further content
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Herm
KZA/Orange
Yeah I fit four scumreads in, watcha gonna do?
Esooa/Tim
Wiml so far (seems too easy town tho, will revisit)
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Probably didn't like being called dumb.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:32 pmI wonder what would have made gavial frustrated? He'd been spending his posts shouting about how I'm a wolf, he was convinced he was on the right track. I was heavily using sarcasm and whatnot in my responses to him, so what could have made him frustrated.Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:22 pmNah, claiming out of frustration is pretty towny.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:59 pm @Wiml
this post is badruminate on that one for a while the next time you want to think about whether or not the claim timing was towy
it's not like I'd rebutted his claims, just called them dumb. I didn't fight back or try to show how I was town, I let him rant and called him a shouty goblin gobshite. If he's so sure he's right what possible source of frustration makes him claim to prove and verify his town bona fides. I think that's what needs to be ruminated on.
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4 scum is average in 17p why is this bad?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:33 pm Top 3 townreads:
Esooa/Tim
Wiml so far (seems too easy town tho, will revisit)
Probably Gav/Ydrasse for now. Pending Ydrasse further content
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Dusk
Herm
KZA/Orange
Yeah I fit four scumreads in, watcha gonna do?
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it's not pressure, it's wanting to win. No point in making it to the end of the game only to throw it away b/c I want to be nice to the town team.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:26 pmIt's not even a safe lynch. It's a necessary lynch. Outed 3p survivor is easy to pressure into scumsiding if still around in the endgame
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I'm not even gonna address Nanook's sus until I get more info from em.
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Reads don't have feelings ;-)EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:34 pmProbably didn't like being called dumb.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:32 pmI wonder what would have made gavial frustrated? He'd been spending his posts shouting about how I'm a wolf, he was convinced he was on the right track. I was heavily using sarcasm and whatnot in my responses to him, so what could have made him frustrated.Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:22 pmNah, claiming out of frustration is pretty towny.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:59 pm @Wiml
this post is badruminate on that one for a while the next time you want to think about whether or not the claim timing was towy
it's not like I'd rebutted his claims, just called them dumb. I didn't fight back or try to show how I was town, I let him rant and called him a shouty goblin gobshite. If he's so sure he's right what possible source of frustration makes him claim to prove and verify his town bona fides. I think that's what needs to be ruminated on.
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I'm joking because we were asked by the Don to provide top 3.Duskfall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:35 pm4 scum is average in 17p why is this bad?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:33 pm Top 3 townreads:
Esooa/Tim
Wiml so far (seems too easy town tho, will revisit)
Probably Gav/Ydrasse for now. Pending Ydrasse further content
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Herm
KZA/Orange
Yeah I fit four scumreads in, watcha gonna do?
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Gav probably did tho.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:36 pmReads don't have feelings ;-)EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:34 pmProbably didn't like being called dumb.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:32 pmI wonder what would have made gavial frustrated? He'd been spending his posts shouting about how I'm a wolf, he was convinced he was on the right track. I was heavily using sarcasm and whatnot in my responses to him, so what could have made him frustrated.Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:22 pmNah, claiming out of frustration is pretty towny.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:59 pm @Wiml
this post is badruminate on that one for a while the next time you want to think about whether or not the claim timing was towy
it's not like I'd rebutted his claims, just called them dumb. I didn't fight back or try to show how I was town, I let him rant and called him a shouty goblin gobshite. If he's so sure he's right what possible source of frustration makes him claim to prove and verify his town bona fides. I think that's what needs to be ruminated on.
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I mean basically same thing. My point is outed 3p survivor is basically another wolf unless wolves are stupidhollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:35 pmit's not pressure, it's wanting to win. No point in making it to the end of the game only to throw it away b/c I want to be nice to the town team.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:26 pmIt's not even a safe lynch. It's a necessary lynch. Outed 3p survivor is easy to pressure into scumsiding if still around in the endgame
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ehEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:37 pmGav probably did tho.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:36 pmReads don't have feelings ;-)EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:34 pmProbably didn't like being called dumb.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:32 pmI wonder what would have made gavial frustrated? He'd been spending his posts shouting about how I'm a wolf, he was convinced he was on the right track. I was heavily using sarcasm and whatnot in my responses to him, so what could have made him frustrated.Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:22 pmNah, claiming out of frustration is pretty towny.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:59 pm @Wiml
this post is badruminate on that one for a while the next time you want to think about whether or not the claim timing was towy
it's not like I'd rebutted his claims, just called them dumb. I didn't fight back or try to show how I was town, I let him rant and called him a shouty goblin gobshite. If he's so sure he's right what possible source of frustration makes him claim to prove and verify his town bona fides. I think that's what needs to be ruminated on.
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Also gonna wait for Don to accuse me of being active just before day end
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only if the wolves are in a position to win, but yeah, I need to dieEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:38 pmI mean basically same thing. My point is outed 3p survivor is basically another wolf unless wolves are stupidhollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:35 pmit's not pressure, it's wanting to win. No point in making it to the end of the game only to throw it away b/c I want to be nice to the town team.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:26 pmIt's not even a safe lynch. It's a necessary lynch. Outed 3p survivor is easy to pressure into scumsiding if still around in the endgame
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@sig Do something towny
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