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Re: AtLA D2

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 10:42 pm Seems weird tbh
I'm a role cop. Hence why I knew no one would counterclaim. But uhm... You know what?

I don't think it's reasonable to ever believe a red check in a game where roles are handed out before alignment.
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Re: AtLA D3

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tbh, I think Dana was a productive kill. I'm very curious to go back and read what happened. Player who poisoned should claim so that Dana can decide if save or not. I know at least myself and one other player who did NOT poison. (also unlikely Guillo did due to his claim of killing Mac)
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uh
that certainly happened
that vaguely sapped my entire desire to do anything today
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@Dana If you're leaning to save Jack, turn your online status off. If you're leaning to let him die, leave it on another 10 minutes.
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Re: AtLA D3

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NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:31 pm @Dana If you're leaning to save Jack, turn your online status off. If you're leaning to let him die, leave it on another 10 minutes.
This is angleshooting
Do not do this
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Re: AtLA D3

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Naviya wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:32 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:31 pm @Dana If you're leaning to save Jack, turn your online status off. If you're leaning to let him die, leave it on another 10 minutes.
This is angleshooting
Do not do this
How is it angleshooting?
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Re: AtLA D3

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It's not angleshooting
But it's using out-of-game communication
The idea is that Dana is very clearly not allowed to communicate to us and trying to push the line is against the spirit (and probably against the oog comms rule outright?) and will likely get Nanook to step in anyways
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Re: AtLA D3

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This site is weird, being unable to follow vote history is such a bad time.
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Naviya wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:34 pm It's not angleshooting
But it's using out-of-game communication
The idea is that Dana is very clearly not allowed to communicate to us and trying to push the line is against the spirit (and probably against the oog comms rule outright?) and will likely get Nanook to step in anyways
I mean, the rules clearly state that Dana cannot communicate with us, and that we cannot communicate with her privately. Nanook can MODKILL me, since he's a fascist mod who took out Justin without warning, but I don't see a problem with what I did.
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idk, if online statuses are such an issue, then they should just not be a feature of the forum. If it is a feature, then I feel like I have the right to use it however I choose?
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Re: AtLA D3

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So uh
I'll sleep now and evaluate tomorrow
I think that Dana wasn't an unlikely framer target? Although I don't know how common Framer-like roles are in the setup-meta here
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rip IBA lets kill martin for him
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free town read to anyone who got a bison last night
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Re: AtLA D3

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hollowkatt wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:48 pm free town read to anyone who got a bison last night
Why do you send bisons? Can you explain plz
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NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:50 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:48 pm free town read to anyone who got a bison last night
Why do you send bisons? Can you explain plz
I send them b/c I care :)
It's like fruit vendor but I'm not target restricted (can send to the same person repeatedly if I want to) and it's a picture of appa (of my choosing, with no game text) instead of fruit
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Re: AtLA D3

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reminder that anticlaim exists?
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Naviya wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:55 pm reminder that anticlaim exists?
yeah yeah, clearly I'm a threat to be dealt with
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NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:31 pm @Dana If you're leaning to save Jack, turn your online status off. If you're leaning to let him die, leave it on another 10 minutes.
Asking a dead player to communicate with you via out of thread actions.

What in the world is this game
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Re: AtLA D3

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Also Axe trying to get the poisoner to out so they can anti claim the poisoner. Great job bud
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DaughterOfOmega wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:57 pm Also Axe trying to get the poisoner to out so they can anti claim the poisoner. Great job bud
do you prefer DoOm, DoO, Doom? Anyways, martin vs axe?
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Re: AtLA D3

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idc what you call me
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NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:27 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 10:42 pm Seems weird tbh
I'm a role cop. Hence why I knew no one would counterclaim. But uhm... You know what?

I don't think it's reasonable to ever believe a red check in a game where roles are handed out before alignment.
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Re: AtLA D3

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So we kill axe today correct?
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Grogu wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:06 am So we kill axe today correct?
Not sure. I don't want another mislynch.
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tbh I believe Jack could be wolf here, but idk.
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NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:29 pm tbh, I think Dana was a productive kill. I'm very curious to go back and read what happened. Player who poisoned should claim so that Dana can decide if save or not. I know at least myself and one other player who did NOT poison. (also unlikely Guillo did due to his claim of killing Mac)
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Re: AtLA D3

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Not veto'ing Axe but if we walk blindly into another ML here then that's really bad
The 9-hour hammer yesterday in general was pretty bad
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Basically agree with Creature here
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How about we just don't listen to axe then? If he's town nothing is forcing us to ever listen to his lying
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I ageee with Guillermo who
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Wait you’re a role cop and copped someone and then randomly faked a red too
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You didn’t even role cop dana
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also I think Guillermo might be a wolf but that’s besides the point
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hollowkatt wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:52 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:50 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:48 pm free town read to anyone who got a bison last night
Why do you send bisons? Can you explain plz
I send them b/c I care :)
It's like fruit vendor but I'm not target restricted (can send to the same person repeatedly if I want to) and it's a picture of appa (of my choosing, with no game text) instead of fruit
That's pretty slick. Do you choose who it goes to, or just random town?
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EnderWiggin wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:22 pm Look at Ender go.

With an OMGUS vote.

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EnderWiggin wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:25 pm Luckbox/AxeHole/Maybe Falc/Maybe Jack

Good scumteam progression I like.
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NotAnAxehole wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:04 pm I'm not sure which is more scummy,

Guillotine being a memer that is excessively meming which seems like something a scum memer could get caught up in (or a disinterested towny).

Or EnderWiggin giving the excessive memer a town pass.

Probably the latter?
Why can't it just be Guillotine messing around d1?
I don't see how your question-hypothesis poses a contradiction to anything I said.

@MacDougall I know you're voting luckbox, but can you play devil's advocate for a second and give me a reason why I should town read him? I feel like there are a couple of meta options, I'll let you choose your approach though.
You're asking Mac for a reason why you should town read me when he's voting me?
Very astute observation. I will not bore you with my line of thinking as you probably have already deduced that as well.
Everything you say reminds me of myself when I was a little prick who had read Beginners Psychology and wanted to sound cultured.
For all of you townies in the game, I'd like to point out that by this, he's saying that he thinks my posts are more personality driven than alignment driven. Therefore, it makes very little sense that he would be voting me over anything he's seen in the game.

But yeah, that and the early town read on Guillotine when Guillotine wasn't being towny (albeit, maybe it's not scummy, but certainly not worthy of a D1 pass - It's hardly even been funny to be honest... Maybe more clowny?)

So... Vote for this guy. Or Dana, I still think Dana is high probability wolf for the early role fishing and general mechanical posting during RVS.
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NotAnAxehole wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:28 pm

For all of you townies in the game, I'd like to point out that by this, he's saying that he thinks my posts are more personality driven than alignment driven. Therefore, it makes very little sense that he would be voting me over anything he's seen in the game.

But yeah, that and the early town read on Guillotine when Guillotine wasn't being towny (albeit, maybe it's not scummy, but certainly not worthy of a D1 pass - It's hardly even been funny to be honest... Maybe more clowny?)

So... Vote for this guy. Or Dana, I still think Dana is high probability wolf for the early role fishing and general mechanical posting during RVS.
You posted a weaksauce reason to push on me and think it's ironclad.

Nice.

Any other response to the wagon on you with Mac involved? Please share with the class.

(Yes I think a lot of the posts are personality driven and NAI because it's early D1, but his initial Ender/Guillo push was bad.)
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NotAnAxehole wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:28 pm

For all of you townies in the game, I'd like to point out that by this, he's saying that he thinks my posts are more personality driven than alignment driven. Therefore, it makes very little sense that he would be voting me over anything he's seen in the game.

But yeah, that and the early town read on Guillotine when Guillotine wasn't being towny (albeit, maybe it's not scummy, but certainly not worthy of a D1 pass - It's hardly even been funny to be honest... Maybe more clowny?)

So... Vote for this guy. Or Dana, I still think Dana is high probability wolf for the early role fishing and general mechanical posting during RVS.
You posted a weaksauce reason to push on me and think it's ironclad.

Nice.

Any other response to the wagon on you with Mac involved? Please share with the class.

(Yes I think a lot of the posts are personality driven and NAI because it's early D1, but his initial Ender/Guillo push was bad.)
For my townies,

I'll also highlight that he's saying he voted me due to my weak push on him initially (which sure, it wasn't super strong).. But let's look at the evidence of what he thinks is good play...

So far he's scum read luckbox for seemingly very little reason.

And he's scum read me for one post where I injected a few thoughts into the game without drawing a serious conclusion.

He's also townread guillotine for meming

and Mac for agreeing with him

Let's be clear, this is not someone who believes you need ironclad evidence to push someone on D1, therefore, his argument of why he scum reads me is in direct contradiction with his play, and you all should read that as scummy.
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Creature wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:19 am
Grogu wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:06 am So we kill axe today correct?
Not sure. I don't want another mislynch.
You don't want another mislynch, eh? Are you sure about that? Cuz you sound very convinced
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:16 am also I think Guillermo might be a wolf but that’s besides the point
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Re: AtLA D3

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falcon45ca wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:37 am
Creature wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:19 am
Grogu wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:06 am So we kill axe today correct?
Not sure. I don't want another mislynch.
You don't want another mislynch, eh? Are you sure about that? Cuz you sound very convinced
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Spacedaisy wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:05 am My interaction with Guillo was pocketed town talking to a wolf who had her fooled.
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Re: AtLA D3

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NGL this game has been absurd, first game in a while. We've had a modkill from discord messages, a player completely fake a red check he held onto, and then someone openly trying to break the game by talking to a dude player via code.

It's hard to keep focusing when I'm used to "cleaner games"
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Re: AtLA D3

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:15 am You didn’t even role cop dana
No, I role copped Aang. I feel like his role is strong, and my team would have almost certainly targeted them if I was mafia despite the plot.
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Re: AtLA D3

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:16 am also I think Guillermo might be a wolf but that’s besides the point
He claimed the kill on Mac with no counter claim. So it's low probability.
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Re: AtLA D3

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TBH, if you guys just were better at forming wagons, I wouldn't have had to claim a red check. Both Sig and Dana could have defended themselves and didn't Ender defended himself, and I didn't pursue him further once I found him to be town. It's just my style to push with unrelenting pressure until / unless the person shows themselves to be OBVIOUS town, if they don't, then yeet them and shrug.
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Re: AtLA D3

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So really, yesterday is on you guys, not me.
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Re: AtLA D3

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But yeah, Hallokat is my top mafia pick (which no one will listen to).

Because of the random posturing wagons he starts, like he just votes a random person until the wagons develop and then picks a wagon, he did this both days, and today given he's expecting me to be the main.

He's trying to milk this fruit vendor claim, yet roles have no connection to alignment, yet we are meant to believe fruit vendor is towny.

Also, Yesterday he said he believed my claim, then waivered, then believed again. Which was a very unnecessary comment to justify his vote on Dana, but also, his thought process doesn't match with his play throughout the day.

And now I've just given mafia!Hallokat immunity because no one in their right mind would sheep me for a 3rd day :D
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Re: AtLA D3

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Guillotine wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:40 am
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:37 am
Creature wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:19 am
Grogu wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:06 am So we kill axe today correct?
Not sure. I don't want another mislynch.
You don't want another mislynch, eh? Are you sure about that? Cuz you sound very convinced
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I know you have a vindictive personality, but you have to find a no vote on me because my play has been extremely towny. Sure, bad, but EXTREMELY towny.
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Re: AtLA D3

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Also Doo probably scum because she looks at the game differently than I do and voted on my targets 2 days in a row. Specifically her vote day 1 was bad, I was hesitant between claiming a red on Dana or Doo
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