Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Town Wins)

[honey]

Two >rand wolves sheeping the Dolby push is pretty lame cuz I kinda wanna vote there lol.

i choked on my apple cider reading this lmaoooo

I am gonna just go ahead and lock you in as mafia. You're basically at the point where you are just outed by endlessly nagging at me without doing jack shit about it. A town would have voted me by now.

lol mad

[honey]

now mac says im maf bc i dont have tmi,,, i've gotten a lot of things but i gotta say that's a new one!

[Lime Coke]

Two >rand wolves sheeping the Dolby push is pretty lame cuz I kinda wanna vote there lol.

What are even your concerns on me right now? Like the only reason you're scumreading me is for townreading Honey, whom I've played numerous games with and know how she plays as either alignment?

Yall are just like powerwolfing and shielding each other right? Wolves controlling the thread p much?

Like I said, I've played numerous games with Honey and know what she does as either alignment. Why can't you get this through your head?

I defend my townreads hard. I just do that when I have a super strong read on someone.

I'm BlueKang on MafiaUniverse

This game I had a strong townread on Neo and basically defended her until I fucking died. You can literally iso me and ctrl+F "Neo" and notice the crazy amount of results it gets.
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ountaintop

This game I had a strong townread on Alexa and again hard defended her until she was night killed. I explained her town meta about 4 or 5 times and repeatedly got "BuT ThAt'S EaSy tO RePlIcAtE aS WoLf!" as responses.
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... -Game-Days

This game I was 3P trying to townside. I had a strong townread on SPF and hard defended her, even becoming her echo vote because town was trying to get rid of the 3P like idiots.
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ame-Thread

That's just how I am. I see a townread that I believe strongly in and defend the hell out of it. I have a shit ton of other examples I can pull up. And so far...I'VE BEEN RIGHT ON JUST ABOUT ALL OF THEM!!!!

[MacDougall]

Alison had you both as mafia I'm just sheeping her

[Lime Coke]

now mac says im maf bc i dont have tmi,,, i've gotten a lot of things but i gotta say that's a new one!

I can't tell what the fuck this is. Either it's the dude ACTUALLY believing we're mafia hard defending the other and he's town. Or he's mafia that's just getting more and more pissed off that mislynches are getting taken off the table because players have meta on each other.

[Lime Coke]

Like Mac complaining about how HK is playing, with all of him going crazy and screaming at people, is reminiscent of me being mafia in Jack Town when I just started complaining about people getting townread because they became toxic and yelled at people at certain points in the game.

[MacDougall]

Like Mac complaining about how HK is playing, with all of him going crazy and screaming at people, is reminiscent of me being mafia in Jack Town when I just started complaining about people getting townread because they became toxic and yelled at people at certain points in the game.

Im not doing any if this.

[MacDougall]

now mac says im maf bc i dont have tmi,,, i've gotten a lot of things but i gotta say that's a new one!

I can't tell what the fuck this is. Either it's the dude ACTUALLY believing we're mafia hard defending the other and he's town. Or he's mafia that's just getting more and more pissed off that mislynches are getting taken off the table because players have meta on each other.

Is that reeeeally so hard to believe?

[MacDougall]

Can other people play the game plz?

[Lime Coke]

Sadly the kind of reaction he is having to suspicion is >rand town. It's one of the things that annoys me the most about mafia but it is what it is.

This isn't you complaining about HK being townread for toxicity?

[MacDougall]

now mac says im maf bc i dont have tmi,,, i've gotten a lot of things but i gotta say that's a new one!

this isn't what I said btw

[Lime Coke]

now mac says im maf bc i dont have tmi,,, i've gotten a lot of things but i gotta say that's a new one!

I can't tell what the fuck this is. Either it's the dude ACTUALLY believing we're mafia hard defending the other and he's town. Or he's mafia that's just getting more and more pissed off that mislynches are getting taken off the table because players have meta on each other.

Is that reeeeally so hard to believe?

Are you even LOOKING at the other fucking games I just linked?

[MacDougall]

Sadly the kind of reaction he is having to suspicion is >rand town. It's one of the things that annoys me the most about mafia but it is what it is.

This isn't you complaining about HK being townread for toxicity?

At the time yes. But that was prior to confirmation TSP was town and HK continued to just do nothing townie. I would expect HK to at some point actually start playing a town game again but he's just taking refuge in audacity now.

[MacDougall]

now mac says im maf bc i dont have tmi,,, i've gotten a lot of things but i gotta say that's a new one!

I can't tell what the fuck this is. Either it's the dude ACTUALLY believing we're mafia hard defending the other and he's town. Or he's mafia that's just getting more and more pissed off that mislynches are getting taken off the table because players have meta on each other.

Is that reeeeally so hard to believe?

Are you even LOOKING at the other fucking games I just linked?

Of course not. Why would I care enough about a bastard game to do that?

[Lime Coke]

now mac says im maf bc i dont have tmi,,, i've gotten a lot of things but i gotta say that's a new one!

I can't tell what the fuck this is. Either it's the dude ACTUALLY believing we're mafia hard defending the other and he's town. Or he's mafia that's just getting more and more pissed off that mislynches are getting taken off the table because players have meta on each other.

Is that reeeeally so hard to believe?

Are you even LOOKING at the other fucking games I just linked?

Of course not. Why would I care enough about a bastard game to do that?

You're caring enough to get triggered.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: honey] aubergine smh

TSP also had honey mafia and is now confirm town.

[MacDougall]

it's a wolf gun i'm sure and hk is confirmed to me now tyvm

You think that Mac is uninformed traitor and had a gun that only kills town and shot HK here? You seem oddly confident, but this requires multiple pretty big logical leaps and there are much more straightforward explanations.

Seanzie sus on Honey ... also a now confirm town.

[MacDougall]

Scotty, Gnome, HK


Lynch or shoot in this pool plz.


Low posters also solid VK shots IMO, anyone less than 20 IMO

dead town falcon reads.

Mansnicks also had HK wolf. Seanzie had Scotty wolf.

[MacDougall]

Including Alison... the collective opinion of the dead town makes a POE of HK, Ender, Scotty, Lime, Honey and Gnome.

Which tbh vibes near entirely with mine.

I am quite sure I am just arguing with wolves or maybe wolves with one or two town patsies shielding wolves.

Would love people I am not actually pushing to engage me and ask me things, solve with me etc.

[MacDougall]

@Dolby id love you to post. Feels like wolves are hard pushing you here to me.

[MacDougall]

this is a game solving vc imo.

Scotty wolf spews Nook town. HK wolf with almost an entirely pure wagon. Off wagon wolves hodling and all leap on Dolby as a hard save attempt. Ez reads.

HK, Ender, Honey, Lime, GG, Scotty. Has maybe 2 town at most in it.

[MacDougall]

if I had to guess the person that's the town I'd probably say Lime

[TripleHaven]

I mean we can just wait and see if he gets souped or not

Who, HK? I agree.

Let’s let HK get souped. That’s actually a splendid idea mac!

Everyone, vote elsewhere than HK today

actually also a good point I didn't consider lmao

the fact that HK is a consensus vote at all means they're not getting souped

[MacDougall]

yeh I reeeeally wanna flip HK lol

[TripleHaven]

yeh I reeeeally wanna flip HK lol

follow your destiny

[Guillotine]

[MacDougall]

Alison -

Overview: D1 pushed against the mischop wagon onto player that I feel is generally suspicious. Has been kidnapped n1 (probably a mafia role target), however worth noting that Alison is a major major exponent of role based gambits such as having a teammate kidnap her to spew her clear. Significant mind melds with me d1. I am entering this interactive analysis with a very strong town read on her already.

Alison is an exponent of audacious wolf play. Whether it be bussing, or fiercely defending floundering teammates, Alison is the definition of a powerwolf. When looking at her for spew you should just read the spade a spade. If she hard defends a dead scum with no really good reason for instance.

Alison on Michelle

mansnicks, Michelle, HK, falcon all town

honey is >rand scum but for #60, not for the N0 claim.

[VOTE: honey] aubergine

Has Michelle town in a very early list, alongside two confirmed dead town and the suspect HK. At the time I felt like Michelle was town also, and for someone as polarised as Michelle for that not to be the case is surprising and I don’t particularly hold this read against Alison.

Joking about rechecks in day 1? Smh

I know all about you and your redcheck jokes :P

Fluff.

Michelle is obvtown.

Defense.

I don't trust the general wolves habits, is town Creature always so low effort in your experience?

Haven't played much with Creature. I'm told he can slank as town or scum, but he always slanks as scum. Last game I played with him he showed some effort and I gave him a townread; I later recanted it because of POE reasons, and he was wolf.

NAI.

Really don't like Michelle, ngl.

Michelle is a polarized player and she is leaning pretty strongly towards town right now.

More defense, this time reacting to now confirmed town Seanzie.

Maybe we should just kill Ender.

He could have TMI-ed LC as town. He could also be partners with LC doing a straight defense. He could be partners with honey and the both of them are TMI-ing LC as you suggest. Michelle who is inno child has a strong gut read on him and her gut is good.

This… is weird. I didn’t realise that the start of her Ender push that swelled up dramatically came from her sheeping a Michelle read. Does wolf Alison, sheep wolf Michelle like this though?

Summary… surprisingly bad honestly. Alison is definitely capable of being Michelle teammate based on this.

Michelle on Alison -

Alison has good reads as both alignaments (hint from Jay in other game) so if she says HK is town, i will trust her and move my vote.

[VOTE: Osie] aubergine
Come play sir!

Michelle sheeping Alison to justify dropping her vote on HK. Kinda towny for Alison.

Spoiler: show

Alison
7
24%
Voters: Garden Gnome, Alison, Flea the Magician, osieorb18, MacDougall, lost monkey, EnderWiggin
hollowkatt
4
14%
Voters: hollowkatt, mansnicks, Dolby, Scotty
honey
4
14%
Voters: Scotty, Lime Coke, TripleHaven, Garden Gnome
Dolby
2
7%
Voters: Dolby, EnderWiggin
MacDougall
3
10%
Voters: hollowkatt, MacDougall, Michelle
TripleHaven
2
7%
Voters: Lime Coke, honey
falcon45ca
1
3%
Voters: falcon45ca
Flea The Magician
1
3%
Voters: Flea the Magician
Lime Coke
1
3%
Voters: honey
Listo95
1
3%
Voters: listo95
osieorb18
1
3%
Voters: osieorb18
Scotty
1
3%
Voters: mansnicks
Seanzie
1
3%
Voters: Seanzie
Nanook
0
No votes
Voters: None
Creature
0
No votes
Voters: None
EnderWiggin
0
No votes
Voters: None
Garden Gnome
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lost Monkey
0
No votes
Voters: None
mansnicks
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Total votes: 29

The poll now shows a majority of players voting for Alison
She has enough votes, so i voted for Mac
I will think at the second vote later

I have to sleep, is 11 pm for me, see you in the morning

Justifying voting me for immunity over Alison. Pretty good indications for Alison town tbh.

Joking about rechecks in day 1? Smh

I know all about you and your redcheck jokes :P

touché

Tell me more about your Honey SR please

Specifically asks Alison to speak to Honey scum. Unusual play if Alison = town and Honey = Michelle partner.

Took the idea from Mac and copy pasted the OP list
Probably the postnumber is wrong because while writing this, people posted more

1. @lost monkey ISO - 17 posts, TRs on Mansnicks and Honey, fos on Ender and Osie, low content, wolf material imo
2. @MacDougall ISO - 86 posts, gives free reads, in the thread's flow, always reconsidering. Town like 75%
3. @falcon45ca ISO — 58 posts, i feel him weaker than in other games, it's like half of himself from the town games i remember. Lowest part of the null
4. @hollowkatt ISO -77 p, can go either way, leaning town though because of a tone who remembers me of his strong town games
5. @Lime Coke ISO - 59 p, he has an attitude who doesn't benefit scum, so I think he may be villager
6. @Flea the Magician ISO - 18 p, feels like a lazy town, but i can't put him above null rn, i would like him to post more, and to give some inputs
7. @ NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME ISO - 10 p, null and so away from his meta, idk what to say
8. @Alison ISO - 69 p, analising everyone, looks like town Alison
9. @Michelle ISO - 49 posts, still trying to catch up some parts of the thread
10. @EnderWiggin ISO - 92 p, trending up, but had a very wolfy start imo
11. @TripleHaven ISO - 20 p, town meta
12. @Dolby ISO - 27 p, dunno, his vote on Scotty without reading Iso looks bad, probably scum indicative?
13. @Scotty ISO - 60 p, his wagon makes me think he js just villager, leaning him town by logic. I am a scummy townie myself so

Going to continue later, i have some work to do
14. @Garden Gnome ISO
15. @honey ISO
16. @Creature ISO
17. @Seanzie ISO
18. @listo95 ISO
19. @mansnicks ISO
20. @TonyStarkPrime ISO
21. @osieorb18 ISO

General meta read on Alison = town.

kind reminder, Triple haven plays in town meta

What is their town meta?

low effort, giving and defending town reads, a certain idc-ish attitude, and unfortunately because this game prohibits claims we can't have the best of TH, her penchant for FPS

Not very teammate indicative.

I am well aware that Alison put me in the town pile with ease, and because I am strangely pocketed by her for the first time since we started to play together, I will consider this a sign and refuse paranoia until later in the game if i am alive and she is still around.
That was about someone who signaled that Alison's read for me is concerning or something like this.

14. @Garden Gnome ISO - 26 posts, can go either way, she has fun, she posts opinions, upper part of the null
15. @honey ISO - 87 p, towny
16. @Creature ISO - 24 p, scum vibes, maybe town but.. nah, he looks like scum
17. @Seanzie ISO - 36 p, i would swear Seanzie posted more. Townie vibes iirc
18. @listo95 ISO - 14 p, looks like low poster scum, but i was toasted before by this reasoning
19. @mansnicks ISO - 32 p, stirred the pot early and dipped. May be RL, may be something else. Keeping an eye on him
20. @TonyStarkPrime ISO - 23 p, i really don't know
21. @osieorb18 ISO - 42 p, he's town imo

I probably have too many TRs

This looks like someone propagating a pocket. Ie. Michelle had somehow pocketed Alison and was working overtime to maintain it. The subsequent posts also reflect this.

I think voting HK over Ender makes zero sense.

I agree with this

(Bonus bad look for HK, good look for Ender).

Please no vanity wagons, vote one of HK/Ender/mansnicks, preferably Ender. Voting a vanity wagon is the same as not voting and makes it easy for mafia to dodge accountability.

Wasn't someone saying wolves were likely fine with the current wagons?

I don't know why they think that but I guarantee that a CFD is even worse. CFDs are almost always anti town, they are probably the worst trend to pop up in recent years and I wil repeat this until people stop trying to undo the work of 48 hours in 15 minutes.

I saw so many successful CFDs that in first days I want to have at least one

Not teammate indicative.

Summary - The Michelle to Alison side of the analysis is a far better look for Alison. As a whole this interactive looks like Michelle walked ass backwards into getting a townread out of Alison and rode that shit all the way to EOD. If Alison is town (and Michelle is indeed wolf), this interactive looks better for Ender/Honey, worse for HK.

Odds of being a teammate are very low.

[honey]

now mac says im maf bc i dont have tmi,,, i've gotten a lot of things but i gotta say that's a new one!

I can't tell what the fuck this is. Either it's the dude ACTUALLY believing we're mafia hard defending the other and he's town. Or he's mafia that's just getting more and more pissed off that mislynches are getting taken off the table because players have meta on each other.

lol i had a theory last night that i was playing w that his aggression towards me and towards people town reading me is because he's wolf and thinks im getting tr'ed just because im cute when i assure u i work hard to prove myself to my town pals so i can find my town core

i just also happen to be cute 0= )

[MacDougall]

Honey -

I have no real meta on Honey. I generally have been tilted by them at many points in the game, and in particular the buddying between her and Lime Coke, another person that has pinged me a lot. So I am entering this with a less than positive appraisal of their play. I do think there is some room for me just struggling with their tone so I am not about to tunnel this, and in particular I think the Alison interactive makes her look a little bit better.

Honey on Michelle

anyways n0 i have dolby visiting garden gnome???

@Dolby if this is true, why Garden Gnome?

Also what do you want to achieve by outing this info Honey?

Nice to meet you, btw!

hi michelle nice to meet u too :~) i like ur avi

Michelle on the attack pretty quick however Honey just completely ignores the actual question. Need to see if Michelle let’s that go.

anyways n0 i have dolby visiting garden gnome???

@Dolby if this is true, why Garden Gnome?

Also what do you want to achieve by outing this info Honey?

Nice to meet you, btw!

hi michelle nice to meet u too :~) i like ur avi

Thanks, it's Miyamoto Musashi drawed by Takehito Inoue (Vagabond manga)

Can you explain me in short how do you play as both AIs, what favourite role do you have and. if you have, can you post links to recent town and wolf games? Thanks!

ummm idk i dont really like meta but i'll send my games, i find being mafia to be stressful bc i dont wanna let my team down, my last couple of games i've been tryharding too which i got burned out of the last game since

Spoiler: show

some towns people played really scummily like quick hammering prs and i tryharded for nothing lolz since that makes it nearly impossible to actually solve

so anyways i hope my meta changes this game cos i just wanna chill and have fun and exist and help but not get tunnel vision

✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ: Game History :･ﾟ✧:･ﾟ✧

February 2021 Diffusion of Power - Mafia/Loss
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... n-of-Power

March 2021 Turf Wars - Town/Win
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... 0-Turf-War

April 2021 Pokemaf 3.0 Rise of the Legendaries - Town/Loss
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... egendaries

May 2021 Harry Potter Mafia 3 - Mafia/Win
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ame-Thread

June 2021 Jack Town - Town/Loss
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ck-Town%22

July 2021 Everyone's JOATED
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... &t=2167%22

　　

Let’s it go (albeit Honey clarified she was joking after that), Michelle then asks her for some meta explanations, Honey straight bats it (gives a straight answer).

Can we not focus so much on meta from other games and play instead this game?

on d2 sure

weren't you the one who asked me for links to my past games..?

Kinda good look.

I think osie is town michelle might be town, i did like mac try harding and being all fazed by me a couple pages ago limecoke will self solve i think trust this if i get k*lled
th is falling off radar but still not scummy vibes yet?

I cant see how many posts i have on mobile and i dont wanna go over so gl & gn pals

Kinda weird read squished in between other reads with no grammar like she’s trying to hide it haha. Minor points against.

Summary -

Not much to go on. No reason to clear them as teammates from Honey’s side of the interaction.

[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine
I might be in a tunnel from the start but I legit see every post of his as comming from a Wolfy.

Which of their posts is the most wolfy & why?

You woud have noticed if you read the thread tbh. I mean actually read it.
Seems like you have no interest in evaluating reads and cases and just skim them over; which autmatically begs the question - why you have no incentive to scumhunt?

My problem here is that if you and dolby were scum buddies then you would had taken notice of cases against him whilst reading the thread, so you're unlikely to be w/w together. Which now begs the question which one of you is..

EBWOP

It's too early to evaluate anything, it's the moment to gather inputs and stir the waters.
We sure have different playstyles

whats up gamers

Hi Haven ^^

i hereby declare that honey is town

Noted your read

i hereby declare that honey is town

mansnick is too

2 down 19 to go

Cool

i hereby declare that honey is town

mansnick is too

2 down 19 to go

wow I hard disagree with both of those
What makes them town?

Why hard?

Mansnicks is tryharding in a way that is probably town indicative, but makes me suspicious.

So Mansnicks is town until he isn't?

I'd be super thrilled to kill honey, mansnicks, and TH today
Wouldn't care about dolby probably
I'd defend michelle, falcon, seanzie

Such bloodlust smh
Not Haven please, she is my strongest TR until now

I'm trying to get more shit in and rereading through everything but reading this thread is a bit difficult.

Weird post for 3 pages in

Nothing about the game, just how the site is formatted I need to get used to.

Hi Lime Coke, what's your homesite?

Hopefully soup kill isn't a thing this game

Roflmao

Aw man didn't rand wolf for freelo

:doubt:

Is there an actual vote counter that isn't the thread poll thing?

ISO the host, the link of his Iso is in the OP

Interesting she quotes TH town reading Honey for no apparent reasons. Amplifying signal? Kinda looks good for TH, actually really good for TH. Especially if Honey is wolf.

@mansnicks regarding N0 do you see anywhere in the OP N0 exists? If you did not read that, why are you assuming Honey is telling the truth about N0 existing and that she "saw" dolby visit Gnome?
AND why would town, if honey is town, out that in any way given we know wolves have a soup kill?

THIS WAS A FREAKING JOKE HELP!!!!!!!!!! my post just before was saying dont claim and then i made a joke fake claim im

actually wait im clearly fooling the mafia please continue

Double posting is funny

Thanks for the meta!

Fluffy reaction, kinda awkward, to Honey getting frustrated by HK hard pushing her for bad reasons. Really kinda can’t read HK/Honey as teammed here. Can still see Michelle/Honey.

I am well aware that Alison put me in the town pile with ease, and because I am strangely pocketed by her for the first time since we started to play together, I will consider this a sign and refuse paranoia until later in the game if i am alive and she is still around.
That was about someone who signaled that Alison's read for me is concerning or something like this.

14. @Garden Gnome ISO - 26 posts, can go either way, she has fun, she posts opinions, upper part of the null
15. @honey ISO - 87 p, towny
16. @Creature ISO - 24 p, scum vibes, maybe town but.. nah, he looks like scum
17. @Seanzie ISO - 36 p, i would swear Seanzie posted more. Townie vibes iirc
18. @listo95 ISO - 14 p, looks like low poster scum, but i was toasted before by this reasoning
19. @mansnicks ISO - 32 p, stirred the pot early and dipped. May be RL, may be something else. Keeping an eye on him
20. @TonyStarkPrime ISO - 23 p, i really don't know
21. @osieorb18 ISO - 42 p, he's town imo

I probably have too many TRs

Towny, no explanation. Everyone else gets an explanation. Kinda good look actually. Wolves tend to try to overexplain townreading their teammates.

Can we not focus so much on meta from other games and play instead this game?

on d2 sure

weren't you the one who asked me for links to my past games..?

One is diving in meta to check something and other is to clog the thread with other games stories.

Can we not focus so much on meta from other games and play instead this game?

Counterpoint: meta from other games reflect onto this game, especially in a D1 where all we have to go on are vibes and metas

Making meta the main subject only helps wolves to blend in

Non controversial.

Spoiler: show

Night 1 Night Kill Immunity
Poll runs till Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:40 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.
Please note that results are sorted by decreasing number of votes received.

You may select up to 2 options


Alison
7
23%
Voters: Garden Gnome, Alison, Flea the Magician, osieorb18, MacDougall, lost monkey, EnderWiggin
honey
8
26%
Voters: Scotty, Lime Coke, EnderWiggin, TripleHaven, Garden Gnome, honey, listo95, Michelle
hollowkatt
4
13%
Voters: hollowkatt, mansnicks, Dolby, Scotty
MacDougall
3
10%
Voters: hollowkatt, Michelle, MacDougall
TripleHaven
2
6%
Voters: Lime Coke, honey
Dolby
1
3%
Voters: Dolby
falcon45ca
1
3%
Voters: falcon45ca
Flea The Magician
1
3%
Voters: Flea the Magician
Listo95
1
3%
Voters: listo95
osieorb18
1
3%
Voters: osieorb18
Scotty
1
3%
Voters: mansnicks
Seanzie
1
3%
Voters: Seanzie
Nanook
0
No votes
Voters: None
Creature
0
No votes
Voters: None
EnderWiggin
0
No votes
Voters: None
Garden Gnome
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lost Monkey
0
No votes
Voters: None
mansnicks
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Total votes: 31

I gave to Honey my other NK immunity vote and i go to work.
i will be here for Eod, if RL is merciful enough

Gave Honey NK immunity… interesting.

Joking about rechecks in day 1? Smh

I know all about you and your redcheck jokes :P

touché

Tell me more about your Honey SR please

Aforementioned signal amplifying Alison SR on honey is a pretty good look albeit she didn’t do anything with it.

Summary -

Nothing glaring, but they can definitely be teammates. It’s certainly not the lock teammate interaction I was hoping for. There are a few good moments for Honey, but in the main it was fluffy enough for her to remain POE.

[honey]

i'm not super opposed to seeing hk flipped because he hasnt been towny in words or actions but on the otherhand my gut says maf wouldn't play like he did on d2 again it's not towny but i cant see a wolf playing like that

for me dolby's play today was more directly scummy but the worst case scenario would be waking up to see a dolby town flip so if he's town i hope he comes and posts and shows that he's town

i have played a lot of games w scummy towns people..

[honey]

im not maf mac so imagine how much time youre wasting trying to make my slot scum when it's just not. pretty insane lol

also i use run on sentences all the time grammar is not scum indicative the REACHES MAC!!!

[EnderWiggin]

What are the chances Mac kidnapped Alison so he could use her as an excuse to push certain reads lmao

[MacDougall]

as opposed to just leaving her alive and letting her push the same reads for me?

You are over the post limit! Stop posting!

[EnderWiggin]

as opposed to just leaving her alive and letting her push the same reads for me?

Alison might change her mind.

[EnderWiggin]

Eh I don't actually see much reason for Mac to kidnap if he has her pocketed.

[EnderWiggin]

Also, the gun fiasco feels weird.

[EnderWiggin]

As entertaining as the thought was Mac is more likely just town. As much as he's hating on my slot and that makes me want to make a world where he's w.

[EnderWiggin]

I hate that HK is in this position because I'm 90% sure he's town but Mac is kinda right. If we let him live then he becomes a giant what if.

[VOTE: HK] aubergine

How is it that I keep ending up in positions where it's optimal play to vote you and I don't want to.

[Guillotine]

[osieorb18]

I think I'd have to believe that HK is one of the worst players I've ever played with to believe that they are definitely mafia here over even half of the players currently in the game. And I think HK is one of the better players in this thread.

how does this make sense from a town perspective?

What do you mean? Like, I think HK has been townie for the most part and the part that isn't would be really bad play as mafia, IMO.

[osieorb18]

Two >rand wolves sheeping the Dolby push is pretty lame cuz I kinda wanna vote there lol.

i choked on my apple cider reading this lmaoooo

Damn it, you're reminding me I'm out of cider. I might make a Purple Rain instead (Creme de Violette, Gin, Vermouth, Lemon Juice).

[osieorb18]

ISO dive, round 2.

So LoMo is making posts as if they have been much more present than they have been. Has this been just a really circumspect way for them to look like they're catching up? I mean, I get that putting all of one's reads into individual posts like I do is a stylistic choice, but damn are their posts minimalistic. I feel like about 10 out of the, what, 15 posts they've made in this Day phase could be a single post. And the other posts would have very little to them. Some of them also feel like LoMo is trying to be a leader in the thread, which really doesn't make sense given that they've had one of the lowest presences of anyone in the game. It's very WiFoM, but I'm also sorta tinfoiling that Michelle knew that I would likely catch her and was trying to anti-spew LoMo; her vote on them while locking me as town also feels like a pocket attempt, what she usually goes for when she's scum and I'm town. But would she do that on a buddy over a townslot? Ehh... Michelle doesn't bus as often. Maybe there's a point there. But that just brings me back to who else was being wagoned at the time and makes me more suspicious of Ender/HK/Scotty. And out of the three of those HK looks the worst. Ehh... LoMo can be a scumlean for the time being. I really can't get past how awkward their ISO feels. Oh god, and they suggested they were spewed town by Michelle. Eww. I hate that. Yeah, LoMo is unlikely to go higher than a scumlean without another notable scumflip.

MacDougall has this odd "LoMo is conftown" comment which they don't explain. But they still have been calling things out well... And I really don't think that "dumb gun" claim comes from a wolf. The pushing on HK looks really solid. They then backed down on the HK scumread and were voting Scotty? But went back to HK. Odd. I don't hate this, I think. But their worldbuilding is bad. I'll leave them at townlean but I really don't want to see them in LyLO.

Hollowkatt's "Red Check" looks pretty bad for them. The way they responded to the pressure is... townie though? Yeah, in fact it's really townie. Yeah, the more I look, the more I don't think that HK AtE's this hard as wolf. Like, the way they went about things is awful for us, but it feels just like any of the awful town play moments that I've seen from others. I think they're legitimately frustrated that this game has gone to where it has for them, and it just sorta oozes townie frustration. I feel bad for them, but it is what it is. Michelle had HK at locktown for much of the previous phase. Does she do that with a buddy? Ehh, I'm not sure. HK was her initial RVS vote before myself. I'm down to put them at a townlean since I still have some tinfoils there. Said earlier.

I really felt like Lime Coke had a purity to them in D1. It was one of my stronger reads. They haven't been nearly as present in D2, which is annoying, but they still have that purity to their posts. It's like watching a teenage version of myself earnestly trying to navigate social waters and it's really fun to watch. Michelle also seems to TMI Lime Coke as Town with their early interactions. Townread sustained.

Flea's D2 feels HYPER-performative. Like, this hurts to read. They're here, they're posting, but they're not actually doing stuff. They have no initiative. They're just playing a part. And their voting and reads toDay look atrocious. I had at least 1.5 times as much content (probably more like 2 times since a higher percentage of my posts are content) as they did in D1 and they have no memory of me? The hell? Despite Michelle's derp on them in terms of pronouns, that doesn't seem like enough for a clear. Their interactions don't do enough for me in this size of a game, and some of them actively feel like they could be teammates. Strong Scumread. Said earlier.

Nanook throwing wine on the Michelle flip is not a good look. They follow it up with some amount of disengagement. I don't know... This really doesn't feel like town Nanook, just continuously being disengaged like this. With Michelle, there's two interactions, and a nullread. Those interactions are a better look for Nanook, and I like some of their most recent posts, but I'm really not feeling Nanook as town. I think I'm moving them to scumread.

Alison being kidnapped means we don't get a lot from D2, but being kidnapped is a good look for them, and their D1 was solid. They also seems hard-TMI'd as town by Michelle. Keeping her at a strong townread.

Ender felt okay on D1. I'm feeling a touch of paranoia there since I think they work on some teams, and their D2 is not nearly as stellar. But it's not bad. Their spew reads aren't great, but they don't feel scum-motivated, just bad play. I never want to elim Ender before LyLO this game, overall; I think their effort on D1 while under pressure looks really good and their D2 feels sorta like a sigh of relief while still trying to solve, even if they aren't doing it well. I don't think they're ever a buddy with Michelle. Townread.

I had TH at a townlean but I'm sorta liking them less and less. They sorta feel like they're flying under the radar to a degree. I still like some of their posts, and I like some of their logical processes feeling visible... And Michelle gets me nothing outside of locking TH as town in three players, one of which is me and the other of which is HK... Oh shit. Rule of three. Strong scumread due to spew from Michelle, IMO.

Dolby's performance and input have been lacking to say the last. I feel like they saw that they were being scumread for interactions with Michelle and then gave up. Michelle interactions definitely don't look good, either. Hard Scumread.

Huh, I find myself agreeing with Scotty here and there in D2 more than I anticipated. And despite being focused on several times, I think they're legitimately trying to solve instead of worrying about defense here. I still don't care for some of their D1, and their tunnel on me feels really tired. I can sorta see where they might be town though. Like, it's like Marluxion when they're buried deep in a tunnel. They're just ignoring all of the indications that their tunnel is wrong and repeatedly trying to pull people back to the tunnel. Ehh. I'm not hugely leaning them as being on a team with Michelle so I think I'm putting them up to a townlean, as insane as it feels.

Garden Gnome feels a bit performative, but I also don't hate them. Their interactions with Scotty feel kinda T/T. If one of them is a wolf, it's probably here actually, but I'm not solid on that yet. Michelle interacts with Garden Gnome 6 times. I'm leaning away from them being buddied. Townlean.

Randomly mindmelding with honey here and there. I also find them adorable. If honey is scum, I kinda still don't want to eliminate them. They're just such a fun person. I want to continue to see more of them in the game; they're refreshing and exciting regardless of alignment. I strongly believe that they're town and it would take a lot to convince me otherwise. Michelle had four or five points of interaction with Honey and voted them for the NK immunity. I'm not convinced they are buddies. Strong Townread.

Creature feels pretty pure in late D1 and during D2, and despite the gross mentioning it themself, does look townie from Michelle interactions. Townlean.

Listo continues to have very little to go off of; kinda just want to LAL this slot and call it a day. Super disengaged and at least sorta works in a lot of worlds. Michelle soft defends them and then hedges on a scumread on them. Maintaining my scumread here.

Conf Town:

Falcon
mansnicks
osieorb18
Seanzie
TonyStarkPrime

Strong Townreads:

Alison
honey

Townreads:

EnderWiggin
Lime Coke

Townleans:

Creature
Garden Gnome
HK
MacDougall
Scotty

Scumleans:

lost monkey

Scumreads:

listo95
NANOOK

Hard Scumreads:

Dolby
Flea the Magician
TH

Conf Scum:

Michelle

[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

[EnderWiggin]

Alright, since Mac ignored me, and Scotty changed his tune when I asked him to dive into it, it's your turn.

@osieorb18
Explain why Michelle interaction spews Creature Town.

[listo95]

@osieorb18 Go ahead and LAL me lol. This is literally NAI for me. Work has been brutal for me this week because I had a ton of early shifts which requires me sleeping early and checking the game at work is near impossible lol. I do love how you have both me and Nanook as scum reads though when I keep voting them because I feel like they are scum -.-

If I knew exactly why they were a scum read for me besides gut feeling and something just seeming off with their posts I would be trying harder on something I suck at doing.

But I'm headed to work again and will try to check the game before EoD on my break.

[honey]

Randomly woke up and had an epiphany that theres no way falcon is n1ed for scumreading a town gnome, scotty, and i forgot the 3rd so this wagon on dolby feels dirty now

@Dolby u should come here if ur town tho

[VOTE: garden gnome] aubergine

Scotty still dies at eod right?

[EnderWiggin]

Randomly woke up and had an epiphany that theres no way falcon is n1ed for scumreading a town gnome, scotty, and i forgot the 3rd so this wagon on dolby feels dirty now

@Dolby u should come here if ur town tho

[VOTE: garden gnome] aubergine

Scotty still dies at eod right?

I think Scotty lives if we vote non-Scotty.

[EnderWiggin]

Can you explain the GG idea? I didn't catch it.

[TripleHaven]

I had TH at a townlean but I'm sorta liking them less and less. They sorta feel like they're flying under the radar to a degree. I still like some of their posts, and I like some of their logical processes feeling visible... And Michelle gets me nothing outside of locking TH as town in three players, one of which is me and the other of which is HK... Oh shit. Rule of three. Strong scumread due to spew from Michelle, IMO.

Bullshit.

The wagon on Dolby is NOT town lead. We are yeeting HK today whether you like it or not.

[honey]

Can you explain the GG idea? I didn't catch it.

in the last 3 posts of falcons iso he names hk scotty and garden gnome as mafia i think hk is town and i think the person thats n1 is usually the most correct in solving mafia which makes gnome and scotty way more likely mafia

Randomly woke up and had an epiphany that theres no way falcon is n1ed for scumreading a town gnome, scotty, and i forgot the 3rd so this wagon on dolby feels dirty now

@Dolby u should come here if ur town tho

[VOTE: garden gnome] aubergine

Scotty still dies at eod right?

Randomly woke up and had an epiphany that theres no way falcon is n1ed for scumreading a town gnome, scotty, and i forgot the 3rd so this wagon on dolby feels dirty now

@Dolby u should come here if ur town tho

[VOTE: garden gnome] aubergine

Scotty still dies at eod right?

I think Scotty lives if we vote non-Scotty.

I thought it was the opposite - he needs votes to live?

Its nearly 3am i hope i sleep now

[Scotty]

For posterity, here’s where we are as of 3.5 hours til EoD:
-Ender, who had his vote holstered all day, just came in and voted HK to make it HK 6, Dolby 4
-osie changed to Dolby, making it HK 6, Dolby 5
-honey dreamt of sugar plum fairies and “had an epiphany”, changing from Dolby to…Gnome…making it HK 6 Dolby 4, Gnome 1.

I’m surprised she’s taking so much gravity over the falcon kill to dictate who would or wouldn’t NK him. This is an inconclusive way of solving right now. And if you think falcon being sus of myself and Gnome is a deathwish, I can name about 6 more players that felt even stronger that I was scummy D1.

Come on honey,