Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Town Wins)

[Alison]

Flea is also town off the EOD vote movement disregarding the IC thing anyway

[MacDougall]

Btw I got Lost Monkeys colourblind cop result on n1. It said sane. So I assume he sanity checked himself and sent it to me. I also have a bulletproof vest that has yet to be popped that was given to me n1 along with the backfiring gun. I forgot about the vest until just now.

[MacDougall]

Like I am so confident I am billboard town I am hard claiming a miller on n4 under no pressure in a game with a resurrected alignment cop.

Hes rezzed as vt

okay cool but my point remains

[Alison]

Also we are not massclaiming because the possibility of a second soup is one of the few ways we lose this game and I am not sure why Mac is so eager to fall into that trap, especially since wolves could easily have fakeclaims or ways to twist their roles into being townie.

[Flea the Magician]

Mac is obvious town but also don't push on almost certainly confirmed town flea lol

Mac howls at the moon, just saying.

Look at what they've said.

Oh and mac, your lack of apology is noted.

Why would I apologise? Dude is gender neutral. I'm not apologising I've done nothing wrong.

Fair enough sister. You keep fighting that fight.

This is me taking the high ground.

Hi.

Ok I'm going to refrain from using insult here as best I can, my MH conditions are having a party right now so this is filtered.

Dude is not gender neutral. Never has been, never will be.
It is MASCULINE.
And because it is MASCULINE it is a FORCED COMPLIMENT upon non-binary and femme folk because Masculinity is the best thing you can have.

You don't have the high ground here sweetie, you have a delusion.

[MacDougall]

I already told you the mafia know my role so me claiming to everyone is literally optimal. Don't become paranoid ffs.

[MacDougall]

Mac is obvious town but also don't push on almost certainly confirmed town flea lol

Mac howls at the moon, just saying.

Look at what they've said.

Oh and mac, your lack of apology is noted.

Why would I apologise? Dude is gender neutral. I'm not apologising I've done nothing wrong.

Fair enough sister. You keep fighting that fight.

This is me taking the high ground.

Hi.

Ok I'm going to refrain from using insult here as best I can, my MH conditions are having a party right now so this is filtered.

Dude is not gender neutral. Never has been, never will be.
It is MASCULINE.
And because it is MASCULINE it is a FORCED COMPLIMENT upon non-binary and femme folk because Masculinity is the best thing you can have.

You don't have the high ground here sweetie, you have a delusion.

2021 says hi

[Alison]

I honestly find Mac's behavior this night phase offputting, I would've thought he would come back into the game with slam dunk reads and just pop off on the wolf team but instead he has advocated a massclaim which I think is bad, attacked someone who both looks excellent off wagonomics and is IC'ed, and claimed to have prior suspicion on me for surviving when I've been NK-immunized every night.

[MacDougall]

God I hate mafia sometimes. Goodbye.

[Alison]

Also Mac you don't know what you're talking about with the gender identity stuff and you're clearly hurting someone please stop.

[MacDougall]

I honestly find Mac's behavior this night phase offputting, I would've thought he would come back into the game with slam dunk reads and just pop off on the wolf team but instead he has advocated a massclaim which I think is bad, attacked someone who both looks excellent off wagonomics and is IC'ed, and claimed to have prior suspicion on me for surviving when I've been NK-immunized every night.

I literally did you wet fart

[Flea the Magician]

Mac is obvious town but also don't push on almost certainly confirmed town flea lol

Mac howls at the moon, just saying.

Look at what they've said.

Oh and mac, your lack of apology is noted.

Why would I apologise? Dude is gender neutral. I'm not apologising I've done nothing wrong.

Fair enough sister. You keep fighting that fight.

This is me taking the high ground.

Hi.

Ok I'm going to refrain from using insult here as best I can, my MH conditions are having a party right now so this is filtered.

Dude is not gender neutral. Never has been, never will be.
It is MASCULINE.
And because it is MASCULINE it is a FORCED COMPLIMENT upon non-binary and femme folk because Masculinity is the best thing you can have.

You don't have the high ground here sweetie, you have a delusion.

2021 says hi

Oh good you do know what year it is, so stop forcing your fragile, toxic masculinity on others.

[MacDougall]

Also Mac you don't know what you're talking about with the gender identity stuff and you're clearly hurting someone please stop.

They don't seem hurt to me.

Don't talk to me like this. You're literally the primary exponent of mafia being emotion free. Hypocrite free zone please Alison

[Flea the Magician]

I'm getting killed anyway so I may as well reveal my other ability I used.

I was a double voter the other day, Guills votes were mine >:)

[Flea the Magician]

Also Mac you don't know what you're talking about with the gender identity stuff and you're clearly hurting someone please stop.

They don't seem hurt to me.

Don't talk to me like this. You're literally the primary exponent of mafia being emotion free. Hypocrite free zone please Alison

You know something.
You genuinely are an egocentric fucking moron.

And thats coming from someone fighting off a god complex.

[MacDougall]

Also Mac you don't know what you're talking about with the gender identity stuff and you're clearly hurting someone please stop.

They don't seem hurt to me.

Don't talk to me like this. You're literally the primary exponent of mafia being emotion free. Hypocrite free zone please Alison

You know something.
You genuinely are an egocentric fucking moron.

And thats coming from someone fighting off a god complex.

I've not insulted you. I referred to you as dude. I refer to everyone as dude. Many people use this term with no gender bias.

You retaliate by demanding an apology, attacking me, saying I have toxic masculinity and call me a fucking moron.

Good day.

[Alison]

Also Mac you don't know what you're talking about with the gender identity stuff and you're clearly hurting someone please stop.

They don't seem hurt to me.

Don't talk to me like this. You're literally the primary exponent of mafia being emotion free. Hypocrite free zone please Alison

Just so you know I have been intentionally called dude as a way of misgendering me in the past. I believe in mafia being emotion free but it's obvious that Flea feels as though fae are being misgendered by your calling faer dude so just stop doing that and get back to game related matters.

[Alison]

I honestly find Mac's behavior this night phase offputting, I would've thought he would come back into the game with slam dunk reads and just pop off on the wolf team but instead he has advocated a massclaim which I think is bad, attacked someone who both looks excellent off wagonomics and is IC'ed, and claimed to have prior suspicion on me for surviving when I've been NK-immunized every night.

I literally did you wet fart

What do you make of the Ender push on Creature when he was in danger? Do you think it was just a last minute bus after being outed? I saw it as an actual attempt to survive since Creature looked like he would go over for a bit and there was a sudden surge of momentum against him when Ender made that push.

[MacDougall]

Also Mac you don't know what you're talking about with the gender identity stuff and you're clearly hurting someone please stop.

They don't seem hurt to me.

Don't talk to me like this. You're literally the primary exponent of mafia being emotion free. Hypocrite free zone please Alison

Just so you know I have been intentionally called dude as a way of misgendering me in the past. I believe in mafia being emotion free but it's obvious that Flea feels as though fae are being misgendered by your calling faer dude so just stop doing that and get back to game related matters.

I haven't referred to them as dude since. I just refused to apologise for something I do not feel any remorse for. I am not one for hollow effectless apologies.

[c4e5g3d5]

Well anyway

This seems like the kinda gamestate where

The PoE gets locked in
The game doesn't end
People start tinfoiling like mad
They think "reeval everything" but to them "everything" just means the things they were least likely to reeval because bias is bipolar
Alison comes under fire in F5 for some dumbass reason
Meanwhile LC's been sitting there this whole time

I get Alison's point about LC's mansnicks vote, but that could just be LC literally just following up on his scumread there because he already said it itt and hadn't voted there yet lol

I'm just not seeing the investment that I usually do

I'm willing to believe wanting to change things accounts for some amount of it, but... that much?

The whole towncore's going "ez answer is ez plug em' all"
LC included
Mac excluded because lmfao
But I feel like all of them except LC have a sense of "yeah we just won this thing" that he's missing

Alison's double checking her work, reaching a conclusion, and then actually acting like she reached a conclusion and planning the next two days accordingly
Dolby's dicking around playing mind games with that one wolf PR that thought it was useful for some reason and having the time of his life
hk's dropping the "yeah probably just town" at last on the one ??? name he had left in his PoE
Scotty's lamentations over whether he can help town in the end are blindingly towny and also somewhat reflective of thinking this thing's almost done and there's not much more for him to do

LC pops in to defend himself and give the top wagon a nudge
It's not terrible or anything but it's not clear what direction he actually thinks the game is headed in our what his worldview is
And it also seems like there's still a game to win for him

If push comes to shove and I have to find a wolf in here, everyone here but LC is showing either town complacency or otherwise strong town sentiment, and I'd punt LC in a heartbeat

If LC is in fact town because soup smth smth, let's pray it's just listo and he picked Nook as an arbitrary place to show passion
If it's not listo then y'all will be in the world of lolmech, and the correct procedure for what to do in the world of lolmech is pretty well-known
Gl folks

[hollowkatt]

Like I am so confident I am billboard town I am hard claiming a miller on n4 under no pressure in a game with a resurrected alignment cop.

Hes rezzed as vt

yeah, what nanook said

[MacDougall]

I honestly find Mac's behavior this night phase offputting, I would've thought he would come back into the game with slam dunk reads and just pop off on the wolf team but instead he has advocated a massclaim which I think is bad, attacked someone who both looks excellent off wagonomics and is IC'ed, and claimed to have prior suspicion on me for surviving when I've been NK-immunized every night.

I literally did you wet fart

What do you make of the Ender push on Creature when he was in danger? Do you think it was just a last minute bus after being outed? I saw it as an actual attempt to survive since Creature looked like he would go over for a bit and there was a sudden surge of momentum against him when Ender made that push.

He voted creature sure. He didn't do much on it. He even tried to tie Scotty as guilty in the event of a creature red flip.

And in between he posted this.

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 02#p829402

Here is the Scotty chain post.

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 42#p829442

[Alison]

The point about trying to tie Creature and Scotty is actually kinda good.

I thought c4's entrance was kinda townie though.

[Alison]

Wasn't Scotty in your POE? You voted a series of names after Martin to indicate who you suspected: c4, listo, Scotty, TH. What happened to your Scotty/listo suspicions?

[Flea the Magician]

My solve sits at within TH, Mac and 1 other rn. Probably Nanook because ye gods the passivity here is unreal so I need to read them.

[c4e5g3d5]

Wasn't Scotty in your POE? You voted a series of names after Martin to indicate who you suspected: c4, listo, Scotty, TH. What happened to your Scotty/listo suspicions?

What happened is he still thinks I conceded

[MacDougall]

Scotty and listo are spewed town by osie

[Alison]

My solve sits at within TH, Mac and 1 other rn. Probably Nanook because ye gods the passivity here is unreal so I need to read them.

It's hard to imagine Mac intentionally postblocking himself for 2 day phases on end just to earn some towncred given the way he likes to play as scum. I have been burned by that kind of read before (Stardew Valley Mafia) though.

Regardless if Mac is mafia he is townsiding mafia based on his vote record and he will have to continue townsiding in order not to get exposed. In that world it is easier to let him expose his teammates for us and screw himself afterwards by being trapped solo. If he is town we should obviously allow him to give his solve. Either way I am inclined to give Mac a pass for now and search for candidates past TH. I am considering his point about Creature being a bus.

[MacDougall]

I am on my phone I can't make a wall. Just ctrl f Osie's tiny iso for Scotty and listo mentions. They are 2 of the only players they genuinely tried to push.

[MacDougall]

My solve sits at within TH, Mac and 1 other rn. Probably Nanook because ye gods the passivity here is unreal so I need to read them.

Please try to separate your distaste of me from your read. I rarely get into heated arguments with wolves. It is probably similar for you. When two passionate people feel righteous it explodes. Wolves don't tend to have that same ceiling imo.

I do apologise for upsetting you. It wasn't my intention to misgender you. I do use dude as everyday vernacular to describe everything including my female cat. It isn't a projection of fragile masculinity its lazy adopted vocabulary. I assure you what you think of me is not the full picture. Except the ego part I do have way too much of that.

[MacDougall]

Wasn't Scotty in your POE? You voted a series of names after Martin to indicate who you suspected: c4, listo, Scotty, TH. What happened to your Scotty/listo suspicions?

What happened is he still thinks I conceded

It was pretty concedey in fairness to me.

[Flea the Magician]

My solve sits at within TH, Mac and 1 other rn. Probably Nanook because ye gods the passivity here is unreal so I need to read them.

It's hard to imagine Mac intentionally postblocking himself for 2 day phases on end just to earn some towncred given the way he likes to play as scum. I have been burned by that kind of read before (Stardew Valley Mafia) though.

Regardless if Mac is mafia he is townsiding mafia based on his vote record and he will have to continue townsiding in order not to get exposed. In that world it is easier to let him expose his teammates for us and screw himself afterwards by being trapped solo. If he is town we should obviously allow him to give his solve. Either way I am inclined to give Mac a pass for now and search for candidates past TH. I am considering his point about Creature being a bus.

If memory serves, Mac massively overshot their postcount, meaning a penalty could have been imposed.
I don't think that was a player curse.

[MacDougall]

Like fmpov

Alison is just town because of her pushes. Particularly the Martin one. Plus loads of mindmelds.

Dolby literally killed a wolf and then got baited a wolf into hitting him with an ability I also was hit with when I had the gun.

Knowing Alison is town makes Nanook just town. I just wolfed with him. He doesn't bus. He just flagrantly votes townies. He wouldn't sheep Alison and I on Ender d1 the way he did. He's just town.

That makes 2 of the soup town on play plus me. Then the fact that the soup named my actual role so like at worst I know the mafia know my role. Them knowing my role confirms that they are the ones that gave me the gun that fucked my roleset. It seems like they just guessed wrong on one person. That person is probably Alison otherwise she would probably agree with me and be outing her actual role alongside me right now.

Like by all means the rest of you holster your claims but I have no reason to because I know for sure the wolves know my role so even if they have soup I'm on it anyway.

But I really don't think Guillo uses soup that way. He usually gives wolves 1 soup a game.

Lime Coke has been a mixed bag sure but its hard not to just take him as town off the soup fmpov.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

My solve sits at within TH, Mac and 1 other rn. Probably Nanook because ye gods the passivity here is unreal so I need to read them.

It's hard to imagine Mac intentionally postblocking himself for 2 day phases on end just to earn some towncred given the way he likes to play as scum. I have been burned by that kind of read before (Stardew Valley Mafia) though.

Regardless if Mac is mafia he is townsiding mafia based on his vote record and he will have to continue townsiding in order not to get exposed. In that world it is easier to let him expose his teammates for us and screw himself afterwards by being trapped solo. If he is town we should obviously allow him to give his solve. Either way I am inclined to give Mac a pass for now and search for candidates past TH. I am considering his point about Creature being a bus.

If memory serves, Mac massively overshot their postcount, meaning a penalty could have been imposed.
I don't think that was a player curse.

The penalty for overposting is being vanillaized

[Flea the Magician]

My solve sits at within TH, Mac and 1 other rn. Probably Nanook because ye gods the passivity here is unreal so I need to read them.

Please try to separate your distaste of me from your read. I rarely get into heated arguments with wolves. It is probably similar for you. When two passionate people feel righteous it explodes. Wolves don't tend to have that same ceiling imo.

I do apologise for upsetting you. It wasn't my intention to misgender you. I do use dude as everyday vernacular to describe everything including my female cat. It isn't a projection of fragile masculinity its lazy adopted vocabulary. I assure you what you think of me is not the full picture. Except the ego part I do have way too much of that.

I get in heated situations often. My read is unaffected by your transphobic behaviors.
And your apology means nothing at this point, you already doubled down on your action and you continue to defend it.

I have highlighted my read and the reasonings for them.

[c4e5g3d5]

Okay so I don't even know how a "fake soup" would work but

Mac, if the wolves have an actual guess at your role, and they want to do a fake soup, what's stopping them from putting that in there? Why can't they show their cards and still soup you later? It's not like your role will change.

[MacDougall]

N1 I used an action from my previous role called Blaze which was a role that turned me into a vengeful spirit if I was killed while it was active

N2 I didn't act because I was vanillaised by overposting. Which was ironic because all my abilities sucked anyway so it wasn't even a punishment.

N3 I activated ascetic.

N4 Miller.

Which means if I live until tomorrow I will be a disloyal PGO tomorrow so best no town come near me tomorrow night.

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[MacDougall]

Okay so I don't even know how a "fake soup" would work but

Mac, if the wolves have an actual guess at your role, and they want to do a fake soup, what's stopping them from putting that in there? Why can't they show their cards and still soup you later? It's not like your role will change.

Okay so if that was a fake one where's the real one been? N4 and they haven't fired off the real soup yet? With three of them dead?

[c4e5g3d5]

Also, Mac, just wanna know, if the soup didn't happen would you think LC was a wolf?

[MacDougall]

Also, Mac, just wanna know, if the soup didn't happen would you think LC was a wolf?

Why live in highly speculative worlds when I can just live in the one I am in?

[Flea the Magician]

My solve sits at within TH, Mac and 1 other rn. Probably Nanook because ye gods the passivity here is unreal so I need to read them.

It's hard to imagine Mac intentionally postblocking himself for 2 day phases on end just to earn some towncred given the way he likes to play as scum. I have been burned by that kind of read before (Stardew Valley Mafia) though.

Regardless if Mac is mafia he is townsiding mafia based on his vote record and he will have to continue townsiding in order not to get exposed. In that world it is easier to let him expose his teammates for us and screw himself afterwards by being trapped solo. If he is town we should obviously allow him to give his solve. Either way I am inclined to give Mac a pass for now and search for candidates past TH. I am considering his point about Creature being a bus.

If memory serves, Mac massively overshot their postcount, meaning a penalty could have been imposed.
I don't think that was a player curse.

The penalty for overposting is being vanillaized

2. @MacDougall ISO (Day 1 Posts: 93), (Day 2 Posts: 241) , (Day 3 Posts: 266), (Day 4 Posts: 290)

D1 the penalty didn't fully apply, D2 is a massive overshoot on allowed posts.
Which means Mac is lying about actions as they are now vanillaised anyway.
I wouldn't be surprised if additional penalties are imposed as well.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

My solve sits at within TH, Mac and 1 other rn. Probably Nanook because ye gods the passivity here is unreal so I need to read them.

It's hard to imagine Mac intentionally postblocking himself for 2 day phases on end just to earn some towncred given the way he likes to play as scum. I have been burned by that kind of read before (Stardew Valley Mafia) though.

Regardless if Mac is mafia he is townsiding mafia based on his vote record and he will have to continue townsiding in order not to get exposed. In that world it is easier to let him expose his teammates for us and screw himself afterwards by being trapped solo. If he is town we should obviously allow him to give his solve. Either way I am inclined to give Mac a pass for now and search for candidates past TH. I am considering his point about Creature being a bus.

If memory serves, Mac massively overshot their postcount, meaning a penalty could have been imposed.
I don't think that was a player curse.

The penalty for overposting is being vanillaized

2. @MacDougall ISO (Day 1 Posts: 93), (Day 2 Posts: 241) , (Day 3 Posts: 266), (Day 4 Posts: 290)

D1 the penalty didn't fully apply, D2 is a massive overshoot on allowed posts.
Which means Mac is lying about actions as they are now vanillaised anyway.
I wouldn't be surprised if additional penalties are imposed as well.

Its only vanillaized for that night, not the whole game

Id be surprised if there was additional punishment on top of what was laid out in the op

[MacDougall]

The vanillaising is not permanent. It is for the night you overpost only.

[Flea the Magician]

Well either way, I've targeted mac, in theory, PGO should give me a result - active or not.

[MacDougall]

I am also wearing a vest. I believe it is a legit vest. Because I got the bad gun n1 so I doubt I got 2 wolf targets on me.

[Flea the Magician]

So with your information, we literally have 5 confirmed town.
One of us is being taken out tonight, I suspect I'm getting NK'd as I cannot be souped for the IC.

If you still for some reason have doubts on my IC status, check post 1.

[MacDougall]

I don't think you are mafia anymore but its not because of something the mod wrote in a bastard game. Nanook's point with Seanzie's role is very strong. Alison's point about your votes is also good. And also you have the demeanour of a town frustrated that the dumb person won't accept your status as inno child. Which I can relate to.

[Flea the Magician]

I don't think you are mafia anymore but its not because of something the mod wrote in a bastard game. Nanook's point with Seanzie's role is very strong. Alison's point about your votes is also good. And also you have the demeanour of a town frustrated that the dumb person won't accept your status as inno child. Which I can relate to.

I mean you said it, it literally is more than just what the mod wrote though. There's the image, not a text post, an image, there's the vote counter stating I am mod confirmed, and theres the marked event in the initial post where even the soup kills aren't listed.

[Scotty]

Hi.

We kill TH tomorrow.

The only way listo is wolf: wolves are in a corner and he wants to ingratiate himself with the rest of the towntrap of Martin and TH

C4 and nook are on the bubble for me.

If another soup kill comes, I think we’re still in a good spot.

Also I never had a gun lol