Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:19 pm
Honestly I think both wolves are probably just in Transcend/blade/Nook/Mac.
This is an insane read
i actually agree with it atm
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:22 pm
alexa is obviously town.
illario is obviously town.
Esooa and LC are both in their town ranges.
I'm waiting for more responses but I honestly don't think alison would fake a derp clear like that for no reason?
Willing to sheep the TSP meta for now as well.
i mean i don't think alison is town for that reason, she quite literally admitted she'd fake a derp, but i've found her villagery by play thus far
I'm not going to just clear Alison on this one thing forever but I know personally if I were town in Alison's situation and made a genuine slip then I think I would lie about it being NAI tbh (and I have in the past when being cleared for genuine townslips). I find them to be pretty dirty and getting cleared for them feels really demeaning lol. I think it comes from Alison as town the overwhelming majority of the time tbh.
This is not a good read lol
Do you think alison would fake a townslip as mafia?
Because I could probably get a better read on her if any of the players who knew her were at all cooperative.
Yes she absolutely would, and I'm reasonably sure she has
Really? I'm mildly surprised but if multiple people are saying I'm wrong I'll drop the read.
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:05 pm
-refuses to explain read on Transcend
-wolfreads ilario
content bad nanook
I don't really do cases
you don't need to case someone to explain a read
What is there to explain, he has a huge number of posts and enough of them are townie that he's probably just town
Its not a complicated read and tbh idk how it isn't the prevailing thought
having a huge number of posts is completely NAI for him
and which one's of them are incredibly towny?
Idk that any of them are incredibly towny on their own, but there's a bunch that are somewhere between townie and kinda townie, and collectively that's enough for me to call him town
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:22 pm
alexa is obviously town.
illario is obviously town.
Esooa and LC are both in their town ranges.
I'm waiting for more responses but I honestly don't think alison would fake a derp clear like that for no reason?
Willing to sheep the TSP meta for now as well.
i mean i don't think alison is town for that reason, she quite literally admitted she'd fake a derp, but i've found her villagery by play thus far
I'm not going to just clear Alison on this one thing forever but I know personally if I were town in Alison's situation and made a genuine slip then I think I would lie about it being NAI tbh (and I have in the past when being cleared for genuine townslips). I find them to be pretty dirty and getting cleared for them feels really demeaning lol. I think it comes from Alison as town the overwhelming majority of the time tbh.
This is not a good read lol
Do you think alison would fake a townslip as mafia?
Because I could probably get a better read on her if any of the players who knew her were at all cooperative.
Yes she absolutely would, and I'm reasonably sure she has
Really? I'm mildly surprised but if multiple people are saying I'm wrong I'll drop the read.
I skimmed through the opening of ilario's scum game that you linked wiml and it doesn't seem like a dramatic difference to me? Maybe I'll read it in depth more later but yeah not seeing it atm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:15 pm
I skimmed through the opening of ilario's scum game that you linked wiml and it doesn't seem like a dramatic difference to me? Maybe I'll read it in depth more later but yeah not seeing it atm
Tbf it's a lot like alexa said. Like the best comparison is a player like Esooa who is a really capable wolf but half of her town games are just very different and she's easy to find in them?
alexa in particular is a good enough illario reader that she was so (correctly) confident that a red peek on him was fake that she wanted to chop the (real) cop.
I think the one thing that is a tangible non-meta difference is how much he focuses on pushing agendas. One thing I recall noticing in a lot of illario's wolf games is that there's a lack of real depth to his ISOs and he mostly just pushes opportunistic takes. I talked about it earlier but he's a very A to B style wolf.
If he's still in doubt later then I'll go through his wolf games and try to actively towncase why he's town this game since it's a but difficult to do outside of meta. But I'm like 90% confident he is tbh.
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:21 pm
Something that came off of that though was Soda's reaction to that. Talking about him leaving me on the back burner as town to push later as scum. As if he actually had it that I was town and shaded Ender for it.
But then he immediately ran back to me being scum, which might've spewed the both of us town with the way he was going about it?
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:15 pm
I skimmed through the opening of ilario's scum game that you linked wiml and it doesn't seem like a dramatic difference to me? Maybe I'll read it in depth more later but yeah not seeing it atm
Tbf it's a lot like alexa said. Like the best comparison is a player like Esooa who is a really capable wolf but half of her town games are just very different and she's easy to find in them?
alexa in particular is a good enough illario reader that she was so (correctly) confident that a red peek on him was fake that she wanted to chop the (real) cop.
I think the one thing that is a tangible non-meta difference is how much he focuses on pushing agendas. One thing I recall noticing in a lot of illario's wolf games is that there's a lack of real depth to his ISOs and he mostly just pushes opportunistic takes. I talked about it earlier but he's a very A to B style wolf.
If he's still in doubt later then I'll go through his wolf games and try to actively towncase why he's town this game since it's a but difficult to do outside of meta. But I'm like 90% confident he is tbh.
that was one of my more gamer moments (as in i wasn't quite as confident as i was pretending to be but felt like from my history with marcher the claim was sus and not a real red peek)
but yeah in general he's not difficult to find as town
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:16 pm
Idgaf if he is a wolf
I'm never voting nanook as long as he's the only person defending me
meh
dunno how real this is when you know very well it'd be easy for a wolf to pocket you. don't think town!Matt just let's someone be lock town for townreading him
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:16 pm
Idgaf if he is a wolf
I'm never voting nanook as long as he's the only person defending me
meh
dunno how real this is when you know very well it'd be easy for a wolf to pocket you. don't think town!Matt just let's someone be lock town for townreading him
Irdc i'm not gonna vote someone even if they have tmi on me
Not while i have this much attn
Anyways i'm caught up
Deep deep down i still think brad might be a wolf but whatever
Idk who to lynch i think wiml is town and it seems to be me vs. Him vs. Nano
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:16 pm
Idgaf if he is a wolf
I'm never voting nanook as long as he's the only person defending me
meh
dunno how real this is when you know very well it'd be easy for a wolf to pocket you. don't think town!Matt just let's someone be lock town for townreading him
Irdc i'm not gonna vote someone even if they have tmi on me
Not while i have this much attn
Anyways i'm caught up
Deep deep down i still think brad might be a wolf but whatever
Idk who to lynch i think wiml is town and it seems to be me vs. Him vs. Nano
So whatever
More than 24 hours left, there's plenty of time to choose somebody to vote outside of me/Nook here!
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:16 pm
Idgaf if he is a wolf
I'm never voting nanook as long as he's the only person defending me
meh
dunno how real this is when you know very well it'd be easy for a wolf to pocket you. don't think town!Matt just let's someone be lock town for townreading him
Irdc i'm not gonna vote someone even if they have tmi on me
Not while i have this much attn
Anyways i'm caught up
Deep deep down i still think brad might be a wolf but whatever
Idk who to lynch i think wiml is town and it seems to be me vs. Him vs. Nano
So whatever
More than 24 hours left, there's plenty of time to choose somebody to vote outside of me/Nook here!
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:15 pm
I skimmed through the opening of ilario's scum game that you linked wiml and it doesn't seem like a dramatic difference to me? Maybe I'll read it in depth more later but yeah not seeing it atm
Tbf it's a lot like alexa said. Like the best comparison is a player like Esooa who is a really capable wolf but half of her town games are just very different and she's easy to find in them?
alexa in particular is a good enough illario reader that she was so (correctly) confident that a red peek on him was fake that she wanted to chop the (real) cop.
I think the one thing that is a tangible non-meta difference is how much he focuses on pushing agendas. One thing I recall noticing in a lot of illario's wolf games is that there's a lack of real depth to his ISOs and he mostly just pushes opportunistic takes. I talked about it earlier but he's a very A to B style wolf.
If he's still in doubt later then I'll go through his wolf games and try to actively towncase why he's town this game since it's a but difficult to do outside of meta. But I'm like 90% confident he is tbh.
I mean, fmpov pushing me IS a pretty opportunistic take, yeah?
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:15 pm
I skimmed through the opening of ilario's scum game that you linked wiml and it doesn't seem like a dramatic difference to me? Maybe I'll read it in depth more later but yeah not seeing it atm
Tbf it's a lot like alexa said. Like the best comparison is a player like Esooa who is a really capable wolf but half of her town games are just very different and she's easy to find in them?
alexa in particular is a good enough illario reader that she was so (correctly) confident that a red peek on him was fake that she wanted to chop the (real) cop.
I think the one thing that is a tangible non-meta difference is how much he focuses on pushing agendas. One thing I recall noticing in a lot of illario's wolf games is that there's a lack of real depth to his ISOs and he mostly just pushes opportunistic takes. I talked about it earlier but he's a very A to B style wolf.
If he's still in doubt later then I'll go through his wolf games and try to actively towncase why he's town this game since it's a but difficult to do outside of meta. But I'm like 90% confident he is tbh.
I mean, fmpov pushing me IS a pretty opportunistic take, yeah?
where's he pushing you? he has you POE'd but it's not like.. a push
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm
your read on brad just doesn't feel real to me, matt
I've gathered that
Dunno what to tell you
I have done my best to explain in detail why I'm not TR him. If you don't buy it, that's your prerogative. I can't spend the entire time trying to make myself appear genuine to u.
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm
your read on brad just doesn't feel real to me, matt
I've gathered that
Dunno what to tell you
I have done my best to explain in detail why I'm not TR him. If you don't buy it, that's your prerogative. I can't spend the entire time trying to make myself appear genuine to u.
maybe i'm missing the depth of your explanation
i'll take a look at your iso after work
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm
your read on brad just doesn't feel real to me, matt
I've gathered that
Dunno what to tell you
I have done my best to explain in detail why I'm not TR him. If you don't buy it, that's your prerogative. I can't spend the entire time trying to make myself appear genuine to u.
maybe i'm missing the depth of your explanation
i'll take a look at your iso after work
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:15 pm
I skimmed through the opening of ilario's scum game that you linked wiml and it doesn't seem like a dramatic difference to me? Maybe I'll read it in depth more later but yeah not seeing it atm
Tbf it's a lot like alexa said. Like the best comparison is a player like Esooa who is a really capable wolf but half of her town games are just very different and she's easy to find in them?
alexa in particular is a good enough illario reader that she was so (correctly) confident that a red peek on him was fake that she wanted to chop the (real) cop.
I think the one thing that is a tangible non-meta difference is how much he focuses on pushing agendas. One thing I recall noticing in a lot of illario's wolf games is that there's a lack of real depth to his ISOs and he mostly just pushes opportunistic takes. I talked about it earlier but he's a very A to B style wolf.
If he's still in doubt later then I'll go through his wolf games and try to actively towncase why he's town this game since it's a but difficult to do outside of meta. But I'm like 90% confident he is tbh.
I mean, fmpov pushing me IS a pretty opportunistic take, yeah?
where's he pushing you? he has you POE'd but it's not like.. a push
Hes voting me and has called for votes on a couple times iirc
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:16 pm
Idgaf if he is a wolf
I'm never voting nanook as long as he's the only person defending me
meh
dunno how real this is when you know very well it'd be easy for a wolf to pocket you. don't think town!Matt just let's someone be lock town for townreading him
Irdc i'm not gonna vote someone even if they have tmi on me
Not while i have this much attn
Anyways i'm caught up
Deep deep down i still think brad might be a wolf but whatever
Idk who to lynch i think wiml is town and it seems to be me vs. Him vs. Nano
So whatever
More than 24 hours left, there's plenty of time to choose somebody to vote outside of me/Nook here!
The problem is also getting the firepower for it
24 hours left is huge tbh. If you're town you have plenty of time to convince people.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:15 pm
I skimmed through the opening of ilario's scum game that you linked wiml and it doesn't seem like a dramatic difference to me? Maybe I'll read it in depth more later but yeah not seeing it atm
Tbf it's a lot like alexa said. Like the best comparison is a player like Esooa who is a really capable wolf but half of her town games are just very different and she's easy to find in them?
alexa in particular is a good enough illario reader that she was so (correctly) confident that a red peek on him was fake that she wanted to chop the (real) cop.
I think the one thing that is a tangible non-meta difference is how much he focuses on pushing agendas. One thing I recall noticing in a lot of illario's wolf games is that there's a lack of real depth to his ISOs and he mostly just pushes opportunistic takes. I talked about it earlier but he's a very A to B style wolf.
If he's still in doubt later then I'll go through his wolf games and try to actively towncase why he's town this game since it's a but difficult to do outside of meta. But I'm like 90% confident he is tbh.
I mean, fmpov pushing me IS a pretty opportunistic take, yeah?
Why ilario specifically and not the other people pushing you?
Theres no hammers and 24 hours left in the day, votes right now are basically meaningless lol, idk why you're dejected trans we almost never kill mid day wagons here in syndicate land
