NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:43 pm
Theres no hammers and 24 hours left in the day, votes right now are basically meaningless lol, idk why you're dejected trans we almost never kill mid day wagons here in syndicate land
Cause alexa (who im confident is town) thinks i'm a wolf and has enough clout to just brute yeet me if she wanted to
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:15 pm
I skimmed through the opening of ilario's scum game that you linked wiml and it doesn't seem like a dramatic difference to me? Maybe I'll read it in depth more later but yeah not seeing it atm
Tbf it's a lot like alexa said. Like the best comparison is a player like Esooa who is a really capable wolf but half of her town games are just very different and she's easy to find in them?
alexa in particular is a good enough illario reader that she was so (correctly) confident that a red peek on him was fake that she wanted to chop the (real) cop.
I think the one thing that is a tangible non-meta difference is how much he focuses on pushing agendas. One thing I recall noticing in a lot of illario's wolf games is that there's a lack of real depth to his ISOs and he mostly just pushes opportunistic takes. I talked about it earlier but he's a very A to B style wolf.
If he's still in doubt later then I'll go through his wolf games and try to actively towncase why he's town this game since it's a but difficult to do outside of meta. But I'm like 90% confident he is tbh.
I mean, fmpov pushing me IS a pretty opportunistic take, yeah?
Why ilario specifically and not the other people pushing you?
I'm not SRing him for pushing me, im just pointing out that "he's opportunistic as mafia" isn't a reason to clear him fmpov given his push on me
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:43 pm
Theres no hammers and 24 hours left in the day, votes right now are basically meaningless lol, idk why you're dejected trans we almost never kill mid day wagons here in syndicate land
Cause alexa (who im confident is town) thinks i'm a wolf and has enough clout to just brute yeet me if she wanted to
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:43 pm
Theres no hammers and 24 hours left in the day, votes right now are basically meaningless lol, idk why you're dejected trans we almost never kill mid day wagons here in syndicate land
Cause alexa (who im confident is town) thinks i'm a wolf and has enough clout to just brute yeet me if she wanted to
i have no desire to ML you if you're town
i'm doing what i can to try to find you -.-
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:43 pm
Theres no hammers and 24 hours left in the day, votes right now are basically meaningless lol, idk why you're dejected trans we almost never kill mid day wagons here in syndicate land
Cause alexa (who im confident is town) thinks i'm a wolf and has enough clout to just brute yeet me if she wanted to
i have no desire to ML you if you're town
i'm doing what i can to try to find you -.-
I know you are and that's why i tr you
But no matter what I do you sr me for it and i'm literally here just being me
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:43 pm
Theres no hammers and 24 hours left in the day, votes right now are basically meaningless lol, idk why you're dejected trans we almost never kill mid day wagons here in syndicate land
Cause alexa (who im confident is town) thinks i'm a wolf and has enough clout to just brute yeet me if she wanted to
Ok but there are other players in this game besides alexa who can brute force the vote lol.
And alexa is generally open to listen to a lot of people anyway.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:43 pm
Theres no hammers and 24 hours left in the day, votes right now are basically meaningless lol, idk why you're dejected trans we almost never kill mid day wagons here in syndicate land
Cause alexa (who im confident is town) thinks i'm a wolf and has enough clout to just brute yeet me if she wanted to
i have no desire to ML you if you're town
i'm doing what i can to try to find you -.-
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:43 pm
Theres no hammers and 24 hours left in the day, votes right now are basically meaningless lol, idk why you're dejected trans we almost never kill mid day wagons here in syndicate land
Cause alexa (who im confident is town) thinks i'm a wolf and has enough clout to just brute yeet me if she wanted to
i have no desire to ML you if you're town
i'm doing what i can to try to find you -.-
I know you are and that's why i tr you
But no matter what I do you sr me for it and i'm literally here just being me
i'll admit i was one of the people /????ing the instant townreads on you. i also have more experience with you arguably than anyone at this table besides ilario and if ilario has you as town still i would be willing to sheep that but he's also finding you scummy
i would not strongarm my read on you here and me suspecting you does not determine your death
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm
your read on brad just doesn't feel real to me, matt
I've gathered that
Dunno what to tell you
I have done my best to explain in detail why I'm not TR him. If you don't buy it, that's your prerogative. I can't spend the entire time trying to make myself appear genuine to u.
every single transcend post about this read reminds me STRONGLY of when transcend got caught in mountain climbing for doubling down on a really bad position irt sleep votes lol
completely fine with voting here and completely fine with voting nanook for doing nothing
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm
your read on brad just doesn't feel real to me, matt
I've gathered that
Dunno what to tell you
I have done my best to explain in detail why I'm not TR him. If you don't buy it, that's your prerogative. I can't spend the entire time trying to make myself appear genuine to u.
every single transcend post about this read reminds me STRONGLY of when transcend got caught in mountain climbing for doubling down on a really bad position irt sleep votes lol
completely fine with voting here and completely fine with voting nanook for doing nothing
yeah he's reminding me a lot of his wolf games
but i've only ever seen him as wolf lmao
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm
your read on brad just doesn't feel real to me, matt
I've gathered that
Dunno what to tell you
I have done my best to explain in detail why I'm not TR him. If you don't buy it, that's your prerogative. I can't spend the entire time trying to make myself appear genuine to u.
every single transcend post about this read reminds me STRONGLY of when transcend got caught in mountain climbing for doubling down on a really bad position irt sleep votes lol
completely fine with voting here and completely fine with voting nanook for doing nothing
I definitely haven't done nothing and you definitely know that I am well within my town range
Maybe i'm just really good at comparing my town and wolf games and since u have only seen me as wolf you're just gonna sr me nm what cause this is how i play
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm
your read on brad just doesn't feel real to me, matt
I've gathered that
Dunno what to tell you
I have done my best to explain in detail why I'm not TR him. If you don't buy it, that's your prerogative. I can't spend the entire time trying to make myself appear genuine to u.
every single transcend post about this read reminds me STRONGLY of when transcend got caught in mountain climbing for doubling down on a really bad position irt sleep votes lol
completely fine with voting here and completely fine with voting nanook for doing nothing
I definitely haven't done nothing and you definitely know that I am well within my town range
okay well u know that I pseudo policy people who don't do much day 1 in terms of interactions/giving thoughts
I'm just saying it's never a vote I'll say "no" to really tbh
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:52 pm
Maybe i'm just really good at comparing my town and wolf games and since u have only seen me as wolf you're just gonna sr me nm what cause this is how i play
ik from spectating that you have very solid reads in your town games and usually get n1ed/die early
so i'm trying to figure out if i'm missing something on brad
but i'm not the only one who feels this way. obviously esooa, wiml, ilario etc agreeing w/me is enough to make me even more confident on the read
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm
your read on brad just doesn't feel real to me, matt
I've gathered that
Dunno what to tell you
I have done my best to explain in detail why I'm not TR him. If you don't buy it, that's your prerogative. I can't spend the entire time trying to make myself appear genuine to u.
every single transcend post about this read reminds me STRONGLY of when transcend got caught in mountain climbing for doubling down on a really bad position irt sleep votes lol
completely fine with voting here and completely fine with voting nanook for doing nothing
yeah he's reminding me a lot of his wolf games
but i've only ever seen him as wolf lmao
I played with Transcend town but it was right as I started FM and was a really dead game. Fwiw I recall him being pretty obvious town and then he died N1.
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm
your read on brad just doesn't feel real to me, matt
I've gathered that
Dunno what to tell you
I have done my best to explain in detail why I'm not TR him. If you don't buy it, that's your prerogative. I can't spend the entire time trying to make myself appear genuine to u.
every single transcend post about this read reminds me STRONGLY of when transcend got caught in mountain climbing for doubling down on a really bad position irt sleep votes lol
completely fine with voting here and completely fine with voting nanook for doing nothing
I definitely haven't done nothing and you definitely know that I am well within my town range
okay well u know that I pseudo policy people who don't do much day 1 in terms of interactions/giving thoughts
I'm just saying it's never a vote I'll say "no" to really tbh
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm
your read on brad just doesn't feel real to me, matt
I've gathered that
Dunno what to tell you
I have done my best to explain in detail why I'm not TR him. If you don't buy it, that's your prerogative. I can't spend the entire time trying to make myself appear genuine to u.
every single transcend post about this read reminds me STRONGLY of when transcend got caught in mountain climbing for doubling down on a really bad position irt sleep votes lol
completely fine with voting here and completely fine with voting nanook for doing nothing
yeah he's reminding me a lot of his wolf games
but i've only ever seen him as wolf lmao
I played with Transcend town but it was right as I started FM and was a really dead game. Fwiw I recall him being pretty obvious town and then he died N1.
Well yeah, when i bury the shit out of a frozen wolf, that's grounds for being n1ed
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:54 pm
Everyone says they read me as scum if i have a dirty agenda
How do i have a dirty agenda here? How is my doubt on a universal tr indicate a dirty agenda?
I don't know why you would, but you're also kind of the last person I'd expect to have the "Deny the Alexa god townread " moment to me if you were town.
Like I get being paranoid, but going to that extent is not where I think you end up going as town.
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:15 pm
I skimmed through the opening of ilario's scum game that you linked wiml and it doesn't seem like a dramatic difference to me? Maybe I'll read it in depth more later but yeah not seeing it atm
Tbf it's a lot like alexa said. Like the best comparison is a player like Esooa who is a really capable wolf but half of her town games are just very different and she's easy to find in them?
alexa in particular is a good enough illario reader that she was so (correctly) confident that a red peek on him was fake that she wanted to chop the (real) cop.
I think the one thing that is a tangible non-meta difference is how much he focuses on pushing agendas. One thing I recall noticing in a lot of illario's wolf games is that there's a lack of real depth to his ISOs and he mostly just pushes opportunistic takes. I talked about it earlier but he's a very A to B style wolf.
If he's still in doubt later then I'll go through his wolf games and try to actively towncase why he's town this game since it's a but difficult to do outside of meta. But I'm like 90% confident he is tbh.
I out one read that drastically alters thread consensus that I truly feel in my heart (trust me I love towning w brad, i would never want to ml him) may have a chance of being scum and everyone disagrees with me. The sole fact that i'm a contrarian does not mean i'm scum.
If someone has a different read from me i don't auto assume they're scum. Everyone has different perspectives. I don't get why you just assume the same for me and my reads always have to be on par with yours.
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:58 pm
tbh me wanting to policy nanook is my town tell
This is also sort of unironically true lol.
Good lord
The real read is that Esooa really doesn't like killing plwyers she sees as LHF as a wolf on D1 (as she wants easier miselims to endgame / doesn't bus excessively) so her actually pushing for this is >rand town lol.
She's completely self aware of this though so I'm not putting a huge amount of stock into it outside of a snappy comment.
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:54 pm
Everyone says they read me as scum if i have a dirty agenda
How do i have a dirty agenda here? How is my doubt on a universal tr indicate a dirty agenda?
I don't know why you would, but you're also kind of the last person I'd expect to have the "Deny the Alexa god townread " moment to me if you were town.
Like I get being paranoid, but going to that extent is not where I think you end up going as town.
