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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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Alison wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:15 pm Possible partners are:

Ender for playing up the "oh D1 consensus is always a miss" angle and consistently pushing for Mac over Transcend if given the slightest choice

Esooa for trying twice to defend him for meta reasons

Nanook for hard defending him and hard attacking people who suspect him

Mac because he always busses D1 when he plays wolf against me. The setup despises bussing though so give him a bit of space, take out the other two first
Not sure if it still stands up but I thought Esooa's initial meta defence of Trans was honestly too bad to come from a partner and I think if she wanted to save him she could have tried to a lot harder without half-assing it.

Obviously she doubled down later on though and that's why I'm not confident it's still valid.
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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wiml you literally came to the same conclusions
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I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:19 pm wiml you literally came to the same conclusions
Fuck me lol.

But in all seriousness I remember it originally being a very half-hearted save attempt before you doubled down much later on.
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This is fine
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:23 pm This is fine
Do you still think Transcend is town?
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Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:21 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:19 pm wiml you literally came to the same conclusions
Fuck me lol.

But in all seriousness I remember it originally being a very half-hearted save attempt before you doubled down much later on.
bro ur howling lmao
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:23 pm This is fine
It really is

No one will listen to the voices of truth so maybe they will tomorrow
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:24 pm
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:21 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:19 pm wiml you literally came to the same conclusions
Fuck me lol.

But in all seriousness I remember it originally being a very half-hearted save attempt before you doubled down much later on.
bro ur howling lmao
That's literally true lol.
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Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:23 pm This is fine
Do you still think Transcend is town?
I've read nothing between when I left thread last night and now so...yeah
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what do you mean remember it being a half hearted save attempt

that's what you thought of it?

what's "fuck me" supposed to mean?

if you're town and came to the same conclusion you would recognize I simply compared the games and came to a reasonable but incorrect conclusion (this is even assuming transcend flips wolf) especially considering we read things similarly

instead you use it to shade me
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I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:25 pm
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:23 pm This is fine
Do you still think Transcend is town?
I've read nothing between when I left thread last night and now so...yeah
Oh dear lol.
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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Transcend wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:23 pm This is fine
It really is

No one will listen to the voices of truth so maybe they will tomorrow
It doesn't usually work out that way lol
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:26 pm
Transcend wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:23 pm This is fine
It really is

No one will listen to the voices of truth so maybe they will tomorrow
It doesn't usually work out that way lol
Perhaps not

But it works out a bit better than busting my ass to save myself only to have the same song and dance happen d2
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:26 pm what do you mean remember it being a half hearted save attempt

that's what you thought of it?

what's "fuck me" supposed to mean?

if you're town and came to the same conclusion you would recognize I simply compared the games and came to a reasonable but incorrect conclusion (this is even assuming transcend flips wolf) especially considering we read things similarly

instead you use it to shade me
As in, when you first brought up Transcend meta you just... brought it up and never tried to do anything about it? Like obviously you did later on but I'm more interested in that initial segment where your only explained reasons for Transcend town were honestly pretty bad and you never really pushed it further.

"Fuck me" is a very British way of swearing lol.

Yes I do... what are you trying to say?

And I'm not using it to shade you I'm using it to say that I don't think you have partner equity with Transcend even outside of my townread on you.
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Kristen you do realise that I was defending you right?
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Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:18 pm
Alison wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:15 pm Possible partners are:

Ender for playing up the "oh D1 consensus is always a miss" angle and consistently pushing for Mac over Transcend if given the slightest choice

Esooa for trying twice to defend him for meta reasons

Nanook for hard defending him and hard attacking people who suspect him

Mac because he always busses D1 when he plays wolf against me. The setup despises bussing though so give him a bit of space, take out the other two first
Obviously she doubled down later on though and that's why I'm not confident it's still valid.
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Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:21 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:19 pm wiml you literally came to the same conclusions
Fuck me lol.

But in all seriousness I remember it originally being a very half-hearted save attempt before you doubled down much later on.
also this makes no sense together

first post--unpartnered defense but double down makes you not sure

second post--partnered defense (can't be a half hearted save attempt unless we are) and then the double down makes it not?

these are opposite things
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I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:18 pm
Alison wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:15 pm Possible partners are:

Ender for playing up the "oh D1 consensus is always a miss" angle and consistently pushing for Mac over Transcend if given the slightest choice

Esooa for trying twice to defend him for meta reasons

Nanook for hard defending him and hard attacking people who suspect him

Mac because he always busses D1 when he plays wolf against me. The setup despises bussing though so give him a bit of space, take out the other two first
Not sure if it still stands up but I thought Esooa's initial meta defence of Trans was honestly too bad to come from a partner and I think if she wanted to save him she could have tried to a lot harder without half-assing it.

Obviously she doubled down later on though and that's why I'm not confident it's still valid.
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:21 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:19 pm wiml you literally came to the same conclusions
Fuck me lol.

But in all seriousness I remember it originally being a very half-hearted save attempt before you doubled down much later on.
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I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:33 pm
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:18 pm
Alison wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:15 pm Possible partners are:

Ender for playing up the "oh D1 consensus is always a miss" angle and consistently pushing for Mac over Transcend if given the slightest choice

Esooa for trying twice to defend him for meta reasons

Nanook for hard defending him and hard attacking people who suspect him

Mac because he always busses D1 when he plays wolf against me. The setup despises bussing though so give him a bit of space, take out the other two first
Obviously she doubled down later on though and that's why I'm not confident it's still valid.
Yeah that's me saying I'm not 100% confident on it being not w/w without looking back to check. I just don't think you'd half-ass a partner read like that lol.

I think you're town and I think you're loosely unpartnered with Transcend wtf lol.
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:35 pm
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:21 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:19 pm wiml you literally came to the same conclusions
Fuck me lol.

But in all seriousness I remember it originally being a very half-hearted save attempt before you doubled down much later on.
also this makes no sense together

first post--unpartnered defense but double down makes you not sure

second post--partnered defense (can't be a half hearted save attempt unless we are) and then the double down makes it not?

these are opposite things
I never ever ever called it partnered unless I've had an autocorrect issue somewhere.
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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then what does "remember it being a half hearted save attempt" mean?
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I'm confused about what you're even confused about lol.
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Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:40 pm then what does "remember it being a half hearted save attempt" mean?
Ah.

Tl;dr I think you would take a firmer stance on a partner in matt's position than you originally took on him.

Originally, you made yourself look bad if he flipped but didn't actually really try to convince people not to flip him.
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1: I don't understand remembering it as a half hearted save attempt if you didn't think at that time it was a save attempt

2: I don't understand the need to point out apprehension to delegitimize your read when you came to the same conclusion so it's not such that I was lying about anything. I read it either as sloppy fake solving (which is why I think your reading of it changed in the second post) or trying to hold to your previous read while not trying to steer alison off me if transcend is a wolf
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I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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I’m not gonna have time to catch up did mac do his plan?
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i don't think so
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oh my god EOD is in an hour I didn't realize
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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I'll just park on Transcend and catch up tomorrow, w/e
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Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:53 pm 1: I don't understand remembering it as a half hearted save attempt if you didn't think at that time it was a save attempt

2: I don't understand the need to point out apprehension to delegitimize your read when you came to the same conclusion so it's not such that I was lying about anything. I read it either as sloppy fake solving (which is why I think your reading of it changed in the second post) or trying to hold to your previous read while not trying to steer alison off me if transcend is a wolf
Ok but I'm drunk and my word choices were bad. That's NAI unless you think I have TMI that you/Transcend arecw/w anywaym.

I'm apprehensive because it's really easy for my not w/w read to just be wrong and I never really paid much attention to it because I am heavily townreading you outside of that and just brought it up for the sake if one post?

Again, I'm literally defending you lol. It's very very obvious I'm not intending to push on you given my previous posts about you
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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Alison wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:15 pm Possible partners are:

Ender for playing up the "oh D1 consensus is always a miss" angle and consistently pushing for Mac over Transcend if given the slightest choice

Esooa for trying twice to defend him for meta reasons

Nanook for hard defending him and hard attacking people who suspect him

Mac because he always busses D1 when he plays wolf against me. The setup despises bussing though so give him a bit of space, take out the other two first
Legacy is as follows.

If Transcend flips green re-evaluate everything obviously.
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ilario wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:56 pm I’m not gonna have time to catch up did mac do his plan?
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plan executed
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Okay ig I’ll vote transcend
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ilario wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:07 pm Okay ig I’ll vote transcend
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if transcend is a wolf I'm gonna be sad for having bad reads
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Well I’m willing to swap off u onto tsp if u can get enough voters, I don’t even have any reason to believe he’s mafia but it’s probs better for the long run if he’s out
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Transcend wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:28 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:26 pm
Transcend wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:23 pm This is fine
It really is

No one will listen to the voices of truth so maybe they will tomorrow
It doesn't usually work out that way lol
Perhaps not

But it works out a bit better than busting my ass to save myself only to have the same song and dance happen d2
Yeah fair enough
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Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:09 pm if transcend is a wolf I'm gonna be sad for having bad reads
If Trans flips wolf do I get to be town?
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I'd vote Mac over transcend but eh
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:09 pm if transcend is a wolf I'm gonna be sad for having bad reads
If Trans flips wolf do I get to be town?
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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ilario wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm Well I’m willing to swap off u onto tsp if u can get enough voters, I don’t even have any reason to believe he’s mafia but it’s probs better for the long run if he’s out
This is the quintessential tsp experience
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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ilario wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm Well I’m willing to swap off u onto tsp if u can get enough voters, I don’t even have any reason to believe he’s mafia but it’s probs better for the long run if he’s out
Probably the same can be said for Trans though tbh.
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:11 pm
ilario wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm Well I’m willing to swap off u onto tsp if u can get enough voters, I don’t even have any reason to believe he’s mafia but it’s probs better for the long run if he’s out
Probably the same can be said for Trans though tbh.
Nah, trans Atleast has shown that he’s playing the game
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm I'd vote Mac over transcend but eh
I would have but at this point I think Trans just always has to die tbh, if not today then later on.
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:11 pm
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:09 pm if transcend is a wolf I'm gonna be sad for having bad reads
If Trans flips wolf do I get to be town?
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Wolfcase me or be a coward tbh.
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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Nfi what tsp is doing and his only shield is an easy to replicate meta of what translates to doing the bare minimal when he’s town, which just means at best he’s gonna be ml bait for mafia later on
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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But yeah it’s upto trans to muster up the troops if he wants to go there
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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If you think I am mafia more than you think someone else is mafia then vote me. Jesus this game is not hard.
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

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Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:09 pm if transcend is a wolf I'm gonna be sad for having bad reads
I'm town but you're still going to be dead cause any sane scum team would just kill u n1
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