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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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alexa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:37 am
Esooa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:36 am
MacDougall wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:33 am Alison only makes sense as a nk specifically to make me look like shit. Her d1 reads were both town. She wasn't being a threat to the wolves. Which is why my first inclination was that her death spews Nanook/Esooa as always having one between them.

But you all can't get there because you don't have my alignment. Which against was why I just wanted to be flipped so you could see it.
yes and guess what

she's gonna revaluate the game with a flip

wolves don't want that
people very rarely re-evaluate after flips
this is

the most ridiculous post in the thread

@MacDougall here's probably where my frustration will be it's peak

I'm actually legitimately annoyed though
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I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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Alison does. And I particularly would find her easier to play around alive than dead. I can't make her change her legacy when dead. Killing her is specifically the worst thing for me. Case in point look at what has happened as a result. I don't have a reputation as a good player by making moves like this.
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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alexa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:38 am like my read on SPF in deck mafia was she was town because of NKA and you completely ignored it

i get that you don't like analyzing NKs esooa but i think you ignore it way too much when wolves pick night kills for a reason
I correctly wolf read people off nka that game myself

seriously stop
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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Esooa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:38 am
alexa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:37 am
Esooa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:36 am
MacDougall wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:33 am Alison only makes sense as a nk specifically to make me look like shit. Her d1 reads were both town. She wasn't being a threat to the wolves. Which is why my first inclination was that her death spews Nanook/Esooa as always having one between them.

But you all can't get there because you don't have my alignment. Which against was why I just wanted to be flipped so you could see it.
yes and guess what

she's gonna revaluate the game with a flip

wolves don't want that
people very rarely re-evaluate after flips
this is

the most ridiculous post in the thread

@MacDougall here's probably where my frustration will be it's peak

I'm actually legitimately annoyed though
nah it's true considering everyone besides Mac has essentially ignored it
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like wtf
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I'm going to leave
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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Mac veering off course to make it about him there is super towny
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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Esooa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:39 am
alexa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:38 am like my read on SPF in deck mafia was she was town because of NKA and you completely ignored it

i get that you don't like analyzing NKs esooa but i think you ignore it way too much when wolves pick night kills for a reason
I correctly wolf read people off nka that game myself

seriously stop
who? you absolutely did not
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alexa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:40 am
Esooa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:39 am
alexa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:38 am like my read on SPF in deck mafia was she was town because of NKA and you completely ignored it

i get that you don't like analyzing NKs esooa but i think you ignore it way too much when wolves pick night kills for a reason
I correctly wolf read people off nka that game myself

seriously stop
who? you absolutely did not
what a fucking joke lol
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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NKA here is valid
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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okay you're over-reacting over nothing so whatever
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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And if someone says something interesting about it they’re allowed to
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Except there’s been nothing interesting stated
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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tsp how often do you think Alison is n1d this game
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Fwiw I get the paranoia on LC, I really do, I’ve spent the last two-three games hard pressuring him at times throughout the mid game phase because he always starts off very towny and throughout the middle of the game he outs like almost no scumreads and his only contribution for the most part is defending his main townreads if they’re being pushed and then memeing/vibing for the rest. To whoever is town from the players who doesn’t know LC, just ignore whatever paranoia you get and pretend he’s an IC, trust that myself essoa and alwxa wouldn’t alll misread him so wrongly in the same game and solve outside of him. He doesn’t like to commit to fosses in lobbies like this, and tbh judging by how everyone reacts to being pushed (including myself at times) , I don’t really blame him for that.
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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Esooa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:42 am tsp how often do you think Alison is n1d this game
probably a lot and specifically by people who KNOW her?
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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Esooa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:42 am tsp how often do you think Alison is n1d this game
I think maybe 70-80 percent of teams in the game are likely to. From Alexa’s perspective though, if she’s town, most of the teams she’s cleared are in that camp.
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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MacDougall wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:39 am Alison does. And I particularly would find her easier to play around alive than dead. I can't make her change her legacy when dead. Killing her is specifically the worst thing for me. Case in point look at what has happened as a result. I don't have a reputation as a good player by making moves like this.
Stop. I believe you. Just solve the game,

Me alexa lc essoa are town, if you’re town that’s 5 town

There’s 4 slots alive, given that you’re a good player with >rand reads I trust that you can sniff out who the remaining two are. U can even take a random guess fypov if ur town in that pool and have a 50% chance of being correct.
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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alexa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:43 am
Esooa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:42 am tsp how often do you think Alison is n1d this game
probably a lot and specifically by people who KNOW her?
Nope other way
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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ilario, Esooa
LC
Wiml
Ender
[Nanook, TSP, Mac]

still think Wiml's more likely a villager
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:47 am
Esooa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:42 am tsp how often do you think Alison is n1d this game
I think maybe 70-80 percent of teams in the game are likely to. From Alexa’s perspective though, if she’s town, most of the teams she’s cleared are in that camp.
thanks u want to mason

this isn't just because you agree but the question is prompted by it
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Like the least likely teams to kill Alison are probably two people who have played a lot with Alison because of game dynamics
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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Esooa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:48 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:47 am
Esooa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:42 am tsp how often do you think Alison is n1d this game
I think maybe 70-80 percent of teams in the game are likely to. From Alexa’s perspective though, if she’s town, most of the teams she’s cleared are in that camp.
thanks u want to mason

this isn't just because you agree but the question is prompted by it
Ok but fair warning I don’t plan on doing anything
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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yeah we can discuss this in post but i'm pretty sure i'm always right
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:49 am
Esooa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:48 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:47 am
Esooa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:42 am tsp how often do you think Alison is n1d this game
I think maybe 70-80 percent of teams in the game are likely to. From Alexa’s perspective though, if she’s town, most of the teams she’s cleared are in that camp.
thanks u want to mason

this isn't just because you agree but the question is prompted by it
Ok but fair warning I don’t plan on doing anything
that's okay
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:49 am Like the least likely teams to kill Alison are probably two people who have played a lot with Alison because of game dynamics
i think you're bullshitting
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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alexa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:49 am yeah we can discuss this in post but i'm pretty sure i'm always right
Teams with people who know Alison have to deal with Alexa/LC/ilario. Sweet spot is like wiml/Nanook or whatever
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honestly I'm probably not going to change my reads until wiml flips and I don't really want to be in thread until that happens lol
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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alexa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:51 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:49 am Like the least likely teams to kill Alison are probably two people who have played a lot with Alison because of game dynamics
i think you're bullshitting
I think you’re not thinking properly
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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[VOTE: wiml] aubergine
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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Like Mac/Nanook has to kill Alexa or maybe ilario because what else are they gonna do
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:51 am
alexa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:49 am yeah we can discuss this in post but i'm pretty sure i'm always right
Teams with people who know Alison have to deal with Alexa/LC/ilario. Sweet spot is like wiml/Nanook or whatever
we only need to be dealt with if scum assumes there's no way to ML us
based on how this day has played out so far that doesn't seem to be the case
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Mason buddy vote Alexa with me, let’s test a theory
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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i think ilario is hard town
i don't townread LC quite as confidently but i'm sponging Esooa/ilario's reads too
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:53 am Mason buddy vote Alexa with me, let’s test a theory
can you explain the theory before I vote or is this something I just have to do
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:53 am Mason buddy vote Alexa with me, let’s test a theory
why do you even scumread me? i feel like you don't give a fuck about solving mine or ilario's slot and i did not get that feeling from anni at all where you had tinfoiled me but had no problem finding me as villager
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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Esooa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:54 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:53 am Mason buddy vote Alexa with me, let’s test a theory
can you explain the theory before I vote or is this something I just have to do
Nah just do it and then we can move to wiml at eod
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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i think wiml's likely a villager and tony's just a wolf
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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[VOTE: alexa] aubergine sure why not I'll trust you
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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alexa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:55 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:53 am Mason buddy vote Alexa with me, let’s test a theory
why do you even scumread me? i feel like you don't give a fuck about solving mine or ilario's slot and i did not get that feeling from anni at all where you had tinfoiled me but had no problem finding me as villager
Why do you think I scumread you
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also i don't care if i die because this game has been the opposite of fun so whatever
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alexa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:56 am also i don't care if i die because this game has been the opposite of fun so whatever
Try posting less tbh
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:56 am
alexa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:55 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:53 am Mason buddy vote Alexa with me, let’s test a theory
why do you even scumread me? i feel like you don't give a fuck about solving mine or ilario's slot and i did not get that feeling from anni at all where you had tinfoiled me but had no problem finding me as villager
Why do you think I scumread you
you're a wolf.
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Alexa is town.

TSP is wolf.

This should be easy.

I'm driving to work now I'll be on sporadically.
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Esooa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:17 am wiml why do you think Mac is a wolf
Because he's pushing takes he obviously doesn't believe in (notably him being threadspewed town - from my experience pushing it myself in Scythe I just don't think anybody who pushes that take in a situation like this actually believes in it lol and him townlocking me for weird reasons as well). All of his substantial pushes up until the point where he was firmly a candidate for dying today have been on obvious or flipped towns.

He's also making posts that are clearly just for the sake of being townread by the people who don't know him well (particularly that stream of consciousness-esque wall that really has no purpose existing and I know Mac can easily replicate as a wolf because even I could so it literally has no reason to exist besides looking superficially towny to people who don't know him as well). I remember him doing stiff like this a lot D1 as well (and remember Alison correctly shutting down bad townreads on Mac for similar things throughout D1).

There's a reason illario/alexa aren't actively pushing for Mac any more and it's this. He's making posts that I honestly see no other purpose to besides this.

His whole "I need to flip today as town" thing at SoD2 is something I explained earlier but I also really struggle to see coming from him as town.

There are a couple of redeeming things (mostly because I think he had the chance to try to get me flipped at EoD and didn't capitalise it) but that's about it.

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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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alexa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:57 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:56 am
alexa wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:55 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:53 am Mason buddy vote Alexa with me, let’s test a theory
why do you even scumread me? i feel like you don't give a fuck about solving mine or ilario's slot and i did not get that feeling from anni at all where you had tinfoiled me but had no problem finding me as villager
Why do you think I scumread you
you're a wolf.
That doesn’t answer the question
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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okay. I'll consider it
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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Though the question being asked is perhaps ambiguous
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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Wiml maybe my fos on you looked opportunistic but that's because I doubt my own reads a lot but I'm kind of done with that

i think you're a villager, if your response last night tells me anything it's that. Esooa's is wrongly tunneled and probably actively helping wolves/damaging thread health
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:04 am Though the question being asked is perhaps ambiguous
you literally answered my question with a question

you're dodging and it's wolfy
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