Smilies Mafia - GAME END

#2851

This was in the claim smh

#2852

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:12 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:10 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:09 am I’ve already claimed, some of my /bonus/ results are pending. One might be nominally useful here actually, I think(?) I can confirm that Ilario is town. Woo hoo. Big accomplishment.
Pending on what? Aren’t u just a doc?
I’m a bad doctor, when I fail to doctor but get some form of compensation. I assume you determined that I tracked you N3

Nope lolll, I didn’t even visit on n3 either

#2853

Why would u track me when i was clear?? that doesn’t make sense

#2854

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:09 am Meh, I wanted to give it more time before I outed this read but there really isn’t much happening

I’m taking ender as lock town, he said something yesterday that I found extremely towny and I cbf overthinking it. If anyone has any issues with ender being town lmk now or hold your peace.

@EnderWiggin help me solve the game, I’m too tired to do this solo

I feel. We have over 24 hours though and I got D&D tonight.

Can I reschedule solvathon until tomorrow evening?

Also I spent a bit of today already trying to work out how to post myself clear to fix this issue so I'll take you setting me as full clear lmao.

#2855

See, I 100% believe that if LC was scum he'd try to force me as the N1.

He tried to do it last game and not only did his partner reject it but I ended up casing him HARD on D2 and it lead to his eventual flip and his team's loss.

I don't think Falcon fights that hard for Alison N1 that LC relinquishes me as the N1 target.

#2856

That's one solid unpairing. If we can make enough unpairings and reads we win the game.

#2857

It's also effectively Mylo.

#2858

Side note: Idk who worked this out yesterday but I was out of shots yesterday. I only had 2 shots of my ability all game long lmao. I was just trying to be cagey into scaring mafia into maybe killing me or playing wifom with their shots.

#2859

Ilario what's your read on LC now?

#2860

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:06 am I still think Jack/Ender is decently unlikely, Jack is more likely wolf. He could have coached Falcon, but I said that team didn’t work for some reason yesterday. Lime/Jack makes Jack’s slam vote on Sean make sense but Ender says Lime kills Ender which like idk. So then Ender/Lime and Ender/Falcon, Ender/Falcon is too tricky I think, just based on my reasonable certainty of how decent I am at reading Falcon, Ender/Lime?? Solves the Ender problem, I think it’s a reasonable conclusion. Lime/Falcon probably same as Falcon/Ender but actually Ender/Lime probably can get Rondo to go over on N1 now that I think about it. Lime/Jack then, D1 play for Falcon to go over was foiled by me saving falcon, Jack couldn’t push through, took the lesser of two busses. Jack probably still fits on more teams, he should go first I guess. I’m in bed and gonna sleep on it, this has been ramblings with tsp

This post is actually genuinely accurate.

He identifies correctly the two issues with Me/Lime and Me/Jack.

#2861

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:10 am Is it just LC & Ender?

No, you're supposed to work with me according to Gavial.

Don't fail him!

#2862

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:04 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:09 am Meh, I wanted to give it more time before I outed this read but there really isn’t much happening

I’m taking ender as lock town, he said something yesterday that I found extremely towny and I cbf overthinking it. If anyone has any issues with ender being town lmk now or hold your peace.

@EnderWiggin help me solve the game, I’m too tired to do this solo
I feel. We have over 24 hours though and I got D&D tonight.

Can I reschedule solvathon until tomorrow evening?

Also I spent a bit of today already trying to work out how to post myself clear to fix this issue so I'll take you setting me as full clear lmao.

I thought today Is
Only 24 hours ?

#2863

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:09 am Ilario what's your read on LC now?

Still the same as I felt coming into today. Hasn’t really been solvey past d1.

#2864

I also think ur putting too much weight into thinking he would NK u as mafia. We have 3 nks, 2 of those were on clears, the other was on alison. I can see scum bk deciding to hit alison, esp if his partner wanted to, he did n1 her in buckets despite being in a lobby with lots of people like alexa who he was familiar with.

#2865

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:38 am Why would u track me when i was clear?? that doesn’t make sense

I’m a doctor and if my target leaves my home I have a chance to track them instead and you definitely /did/ take an action

#2866

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:45 am I also think ur putting too much weight into thinking he would NK u as mafia. We have 3 nks, 2 of those were on clears, the other was on alison. I can see scum bk deciding to hit alison, esp if his partner wanted to, he did n1 her in buckets despite being in a lobby with lots of people like alexa who he was familiar with.

He wanted me N1 in buckets. Wiml strong-armed the Alison N1 from what I understand.

#2867

How confident are you that Falc is definitely in town meta TSP?

#2868

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:00 pm RondoDimBuckle has died!

They had the following smilies:

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Your alignment is Town.

Twice per game at night, you can protect and role-block (prevent them from doing anything) a player. It is not possible for you to attempt the role-block or protection in part only.
Level 1 Processing

You don't have any more abilities.

Day 5 has begun and ends in about 48 hours. [Countdown Link]

#2869

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:28 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:38 am Why would u track me when i was clear?? that doesn’t make sense
I’m a doctor and if my target leaves my home I have a chance to track them instead and you definitely /did/ take an action

A doctor that can track is such a weird claim lol

What do you mean by you have a chance? It’s not guaranteed?

#2870

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:06 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:45 am I also think ur putting too much weight into thinking he would NK u as mafia. We have 3 nks, 2 of those were on clears, the other was on alison. I can see scum bk deciding to hit alison, esp if his partner wanted to, he did n1 her in buckets despite being in a lobby with lots of people like alexa who he was familiar with.
He wanted me N1 in buckets. Wiml strong-armed the Alison N1 from what I understand.

I like to think after buckets LC would have the knowledge to think that if he killed Ender N1 with no obvious reason in thread it might look slightly suspicious

#2871

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:28 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:28 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:38 am Why would u track me when i was clear?? that doesn’t make sense
I’m a doctor and if my target leaves my home I have a chance to track them instead and you definitely /did/ take an action
A doctor that can track is such a weird claim lol

What do you mean by you have a chance? It’s not guaranteed?

I only doctor if they stay home, I only track non-killing powers, and there’s another limitation which is not currently relevant

#2872

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:07 am How confident are you that Falc is definitely in town meta TSP?

I mean it’s not a hard town meta to replicate tbh, he hasn’t been around much either which is not good. I think his day 1 was super towny, since then it’s been pretty mediocre. Same with a lot of people in this game though

#2873

I would not bet the game on Falcon being town since I think it’s always one of LC/Falc here and LC also has good town creds so meh

#2874

fwiw Gav not self-presing there probably saves the game

#2875

If I’m clearing all teams with Ender on them I think Jack is always a wolf

#2876

However this is probably not true from others points of view

#2877

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:52 pm If I’m clearing all teams with Ender on them I think Jack is always a wolf

Who am I a wolf with then?

LC? Falcon?

Like, Gav was right about one thing and it's that I'm clearly antialigned with everyone but you and Ender.

#2878

well you're most antialigned with me and ender though so that's the secondary problem

#2879

look there aren't a lot of people left

#2880

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:34 pm look there aren't a lot of people left

Look, I’m still just town.

#2881

But then Ender’s a wolf and Illario says we’re not considering that possibility today and I don’t argue with lock town

#2882

WrllI do a little bit

#2883

Vote: LC show up

#2884

Vote: Ender show up more

#2885

Man I already said I'd do a solvathon after work today lmao.

@ilario
You gonna be around for like 6pm AEST?

#2886

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:43 pm Man I already said I'd do a solvathon after work today lmao.

@ilario
You gonna be around for like 6pm AEST?

Yeah.

Loook this is where I’m at. I haven’t had time to go through isos and stuff properly so this is all subject to change but I’ll air out my thoughts. I’ve locked you as town, If I’m wrong on this read then it’s probably already an L but I don’t see my mind changing, I have roughly the same confidence of you being town that I had with gav and rondo earlier in the game and I was right on both. I also found Scotty immediately so I’m not feeling too worried about slots that I’ve confidently trd.

I think there’s likely one in between falcon/lc and one in jack/tsp. I don’t think falcon and lc are teamed because lc was voting sean on d1 and then when a cw started to build on falcon lc flipped his vote over with the reasoning “sure why not”. It doesn’t make sense for lc to so easily switch to falcon there if they’re partners and the way they did it didn’t feel partnery. If lc was set on bussing he keeps his vote to bus seanzie there instead of switching to falcon imo.

Jack and tsp don’t make sense as a team because jacks buzzer beater went against everything tsp was trying to achieve d1. Tsp wanted to save falcon and Sean from being voted out and wanted lc dead. Jacks buzzer beater completely went against everything tsp was trying to achieve and tsps reaction to jacks vote in the thread and his numerous attempts at telling jack to change his votes in the thread don’t read as partnery.

I have nothing stopping me from thinking either lc or jack bussed d1, since I think the best indicator for me for when I think someone may have bussed is that I try to compare their play on the day they bussed vs the other days. If the primary reasons
I have to tr a slot is heavily focused on just one day/moment then it’s more likely to be a bus compared to slots that I think have been consistently towny/solvey throughout the game. It doesn’t make sense for jack or lc to start off so strong d1 and then completely drop off for the rest of the game so I’m
Not gonna rule out a bus from one if not both of them.

The only reasons I have to tr falcon is I kinda like the start of their d2 and also other slots that know them well have hard vouched for falcon but I do think falcons actions and votes throughout the game have been very scummy. He voted dyson and gav both of which I found to be really scummy votes for someone to make.

Tsp started off scummy and has gotten better in recent days however his role claim doesn’t make much sense

#2887

I think the vote id lean on most as of rn is probably lc. His d1 was strong imo but he dropped off really hard and feeling kinda lost on what to say and that is very reminiscent of his scum games. He has a consistent energy to solve and contribute as town and he really believes his reads as town and that energy usually maintains with him throughout the game but I haven’t felt that this game

#2888

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:03 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:48 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:28 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:24 pm @falcon45ca

What are your thoughts on the main wagons right now?

Spoiler: show
Nanook and Gavial for future reference.

Who are they and what's the cliff notes?
Nanook hard defended seanzie and people think it looks bad and also there's some spiraling and on the other hand gavial is being unhelpful and i kinda think it's wolfy

(or he's a wolf with jack idk)
Gav's being unhelpful? Like throwing around crazy accusations and not listening to anybody?

Cuz that's towny for him

ehhh falcon saying this and voting gav this game is pretty scummy

#2889

I am arrived. Sorry I'm late.

#2890

So with a pool of 4 if we can eliminate even 1 of them then we auto-win

#2891

Well not autowin but we have a much higher chance of getting it.

#2892

Okay so quick pairings

You say not Falcon/LC and not TSP/Jack. I can go with your reasoning for both.

Which leaves:
Falcon/TSP
Falcon/Jack
LC/TSP
LC/Jack

#2893

Falcon/Jack:
Why does Jack not hammer LC with his buzzer beater?

Falcon/TSP:
Think about this one.

LC/TSP:
Why does TSP try and wagon off Seanzie onto LC?

LC/Jack:
Think about this one.

#2894

I missed Ilario :'(

But I'm prepping a giant-ass post

#2895

Spoiler: show

Quick summary of D1 from our sus parties

#2896

Jack/Falcon NOT HAPPENING
LC/Falcon NOT HAPPENING
LC/TSP NOT HAPPENING
Jack/TSP NOT HAPPENING

#2897

That's what D1 tells me.

#2898

TSP/Falcon or LC/Jack.

This is the absolute only possible team comps after re-checking that here.

#2899

Outside chance of TSP/Jack but that feels weird because it means TSP sabotaged Jack's attempted Falcon misyeet and Jack sabotaged the LC misyeet.

Which just... doesn't feel teamed.

#2900

Confbias TSP/Falcon lmao

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