I mean, that doesn't help lol. But yes, early reads be early reads. I have had a tendency to be overly critical of players I'm afraid are mafia, and I'm actively trying not to do that in this game, since I've noticed this trend when playing with people like Jimmay and spf. Employing a strategy of "good enough for now anyway" is probably ok in this game, as it feels to me now. If that makes sense.ilario wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:41 pmI wouldn’t sponge my spf read this early fwiwDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:39 pm Everyone reads SPF town. So maybe I should just read SPF town. It's very much possible she is just town.
I tend to overplay my confidence in my early reads
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I’d say with the others im varying between 50-70% in confidence
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Oh, yeah. I was in there for 15 minutes and only got to interact with about half the roster.ilario wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:45 pmwe played very briefly on the rym game in the mu subforum but you got killed before we had much chance to interactSloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:43 pmWhat game did we play together?ilario wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:38 pmNahhh I didn’t really extrapolate into why. Tbh I don’t even have a reason, though I didn’t particularly feel like flipping mafia in this lobby since last time I played against spf sloonei jjj combo they were all town and I kinda wanted to see what it would be like to town with Atleast a few of them, so I was pretty relieved when I saw my alignment.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:31 pmI don't think so, but I noticed other players having played with you and wondered if I had too. I think you mentioned reading spf town though, but don't know if you said why?
Anyways, I was riding the high of the flip and I saw spfs and jjjs posts and my gut told me that they both just seem tonally towny to me in their first posts I saw so I trd them for it. Don’t have much more deeper insight for my original read unfortunately
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Triple H?
OK, LC, Ilario, Marmot are scum.
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@TonyStarkPrime care to explain your townreads on sig and falcon? Gotta say I disagree with at least sig for reasons I describe up top, no real opinion on falcon as of yet.
And also why I'm on the subject:
@falcon45ca Why'd ya specifically call out that crowd with their townreads? I'd say there's been quite a few players this game that have been ridin' the town read train, includin' myself a bit.
Oh yeah and since it's been talked about a bit, I'm just gonna say that another reason I have Stayposi as town now is because while she's not postin' as much as the rest of us, her posts are pretty... "powerful" in a sense. I'd like to call it somethin' like high-impact posting. I'm willing to listen to Dyslexicon's opinion of course, but I don't think she's got scum vibes like some of the other people I've been talkin' about.
And another thing too that I noticed... I still kinda feel like Lime Coke is mirroring the thread. He seems almost scared to make strong statements and has even qualified a few of them like his townread on ilario. Dunno... think I'm just gettin' the vibe that he's a bit uncomfortable.
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@falcon45ca Why'd ya specifically call out that crowd with their townreads? I'd say there's been quite a few players this game that have been ridin' the town read train, includin' myself a bit.
Oh yeah and since it's been talked about a bit, I'm just gonna say that another reason I have Stayposi as town now is because while she's not postin' as much as the rest of us, her posts are pretty... "powerful" in a sense. I'd like to call it somethin' like high-impact posting. I'm willing to listen to Dyslexicon's opinion of course, but I don't think she's got scum vibes like some of the other people I've been talkin' about.
And another thing too that I noticed... I still kinda feel like Lime Coke is mirroring the thread. He seems almost scared to make strong statements and has even qualified a few of them like his townread on ilario. Dunno... think I'm just gettin' the vibe that he's a bit uncomfortable.
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Who else has been posting huge town reads list? I'll puke all over their shoes tooSon of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:48 pm Hey all. Just caught up on the thread, some thoughts below
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Oh yeah and since it's been talked about a bit, I'm just gonna say that another reason I have Stayposi as town now is because while she's not postin' as much as the rest of us, her posts are pretty... "powerful" in a sense. I'd like to call it somethin' like high-impact posting. I'm willing to listen to Dyslexicon's opinion of course, but I don't think she's got scum vibes like some of the other people I've been talkin' about.
And another thing too that I noticed... I still kinda feel like Lime Coke is mirroring the thread. He seems almost scared to make strong statements and has even qualified a few of them like his townread on ilario. Dunno... think I'm just gettin' the vibe that he's a bit uncomfortable.
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@Lime Coke you got any half-baked thoughts bubbling under the lid that you haven’t expressed yet?
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Yeah I agree with that sentiment since people can be different for a number of reasons which may not even be game related, sometimes it is but just as often it isn’t. I personally don’t put too much thought into reading spf early beyond vibe reads since her alignment usually becomes clearer the more the game develops. And I feel like In the time it takes me to confidently discern her alignment I could have most likely worked out 3-4 other slots in that same timeframe, so it’s usually not too time efficient for me to dwell on her early on.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:44 pmAlright, thanks anyway. If I ever bother, I may go back to check the gut that spooked me, regarding her opening here vs other games. But I also think those kinds of reads ("You're not acting like that game") are kind of dangerous to make. I don't really think I'm great at reading spf, if I am to be honest with myself, and I don't think I've seen her as mafia before (when playing myself)ilario wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:38 pmNahhh I didn’t really extrapolate into why. Tbh I don’t even have a reason, though I didn’t particularly feel like flipping mafia in this lobby since last time I played against spf sloonei jjj combo they were all town and I kinda wanted to see what it would be like to town with Atleast a few of them, so I was pretty relieved when I saw my alignment.
Anyways, I was riding the high of the flip and I saw spfs and jjjs posts and my gut told me that they both just seem tonally towny to me in their first posts I saw so I trd them for it. Don’t have much more deeper insight for my original read unfortunately
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Me if Falcon decides to go down this road. ☝
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How you going to do that when we chop you today?
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Cuz TR's should be earned, not thrown about like candy at a kid's birthday party.
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Eh... When I wrote that post I was mostly thinkin' about Lime Coke and myself, but you responded to Lime Coke while I was writing and I didn't see it. So I guess that explains that. Just curious now about why you hate townreads so much?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:50 pmWho else has been posting huge town reads list? I'll puke all over their shoes tooSon of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:48 pm Hey all. Just caught up on the thread, some thoughts below
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@falcon45ca Why'd ya specifically call out that crowd with their townreads? I'd say there's been quite a few players this game that have been ridin' the town read train, includin' myself a bit.
Oh yeah and since it's been talked about a bit, I'm just gonna say that another reason I have Stayposi as town now is because while she's not postin' as much as the rest of us, her posts are pretty... "powerful" in a sense. I'd like to call it somethin' like high-impact posting. I'm willing to listen to Dyslexicon's opinion of course, but I don't think she's got scum vibes like some of the other people I've been talkin' about.
And another thing too that I noticed... I still kinda feel like Lime Coke is mirroring the thread. He seems almost scared to make strong statements and has even qualified a few of them like his townread on ilario. Dunno... think I'm just gettin' the vibe that he's a bit uncomfortable.
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falcon has established a pretty deliberate “early town reads make me sick” reputation in recent memory. In this particular case I am not yet inclined to provide any credit for fitting into that very easy costume of self-built meta.
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Nothing of detail yet I just liked Dizzy's energy this game.
I mostly skimmed the thread upon catch-up so I missed a majority of Falcon and Axehole posts.
Falcon's interaction with me feels like town!Falcon where he does things that just ping the hell out of me and I'm inclined to tunnel him. Not married to the thought but I don't think I vote him today.
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So are you saying it's just for show or it's actually how he feels?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:53 pm falcon has established a pretty deliberate “early town reads make me sick” reputation in recent memory. In this particular case I am not yet inclined to provide any credit for fitting into that very easy costume of self-built meta.
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Nice bussing decision.
Jk. Maybe. I'm totes obv town and all, but last time we played, you town read me and I was mafia. What makes you sure that isn't the case here?
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Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:47 pmI mean, that doesn't help lol. But yes, early reads be early reads. I have had a tendency to be overly critical of players I'm afraid are mafia, and I'm actively trying not to do that in this game, since I've noticed this trend when playing with people like Jimmay and spf. Employing a strategy of "good enough for now anyway" is probably ok in this game, as it feels to me now. If that makes sense.ilario wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:41 pmI wouldn’t sponge my spf read this early fwiwDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:39 pm Everyone reads SPF town. So maybe I should just read SPF town. It's very much possible she is just town.
I tend to overplay my confidence in my early reads
My only tr that I genuinely believe is very unlikely to be mafia is soa
I’d say with the others im varying between 50-70% in confidence
Makes perfect sense
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I think it’s at least sort of how he feels. It’s also easy to mimic. It’s not suspicious, but nor is it trustworthy.Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:53 pmSo are you saying it's just for show or it's actually how he feels?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:53 pm falcon has established a pretty deliberate “early town reads make me sick” reputation in recent memory. In this particular case I am not yet inclined to provide any credit for fitting into that very easy costume of self-built meta.
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Axehole only has five posts and none of them exceed one sentence, so they should be pretty easy to consume.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:53 pmNothing of detail yet I just liked Dizzy's energy this game.
I mostly skimmed the thread upon catch-up so I missed a majority of Falcon and Axehole posts.
Falcon's interaction with me feels like town!Falcon where he does things that just ping the hell out of me and I'm inclined to tunnel him. Not married to the thought but I don't think I vote him today.
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Right, gotcha.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:55 pmI think it’s at least sort of how he feels. It’s also easy to mimic. It’s not suspicious, but nor is it trustworthy.Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:53 pmSo are you saying it's just for show or it's actually how he feels?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:53 pm falcon has established a pretty deliberate “early town reads make me sick” reputation in recent memory. In this particular case I am not yet inclined to provide any credit for fitting into that very easy costume of self-built meta.
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He also claimed a named role, one that is ultimately negative utility for town, so makes sense to claim. Regardless of that, I'd be pretty surprised to find Ilario scum here. He's been actively trying to find other town and seems excited about it. The way he's talking to me feels like town finding town, not buddying mafia, that would almost feel mean lol (maybe I'm naive about that in particular). In any case, unless he's cc'd why not just have him town imo. Not that he should necessarily be cc'd if he's lying =)falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:25 pmThese posts in particular are what I'm talking about, feels like Ilario is playin' a soft cuddly game
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I wasn'tDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:54 pmNice bussing decision.
Jk. Maybe. I'm totes obv town and all, but last time we played, you town read me and I was mafia. What makes you sure that isn't the case here?
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To be clear: the sleepwalker cannot actually claim. The role is uninformed of their condition.
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That's not how I remember it. But ok
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I had briefly considered suggesting we try the infernal bucket play in this game, but when I realized this was the case I changed my mind.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:59 pm To be clear: the sleepwalker cannot actually claim. The role is uninformed of their condition.
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That sounds difficult.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:56 pmAxehole only has five posts and none of them exceed one sentence, so they should be pretty easy to consume.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:53 pmNothing of detail yet I just liked Dizzy's energy this game.
I mostly skimmed the thread upon catch-up so I missed a majority of Falcon and Axehole posts.
Falcon's interaction with me feels like town!Falcon where he does things that just ping the hell out of me and I'm inclined to tunnel him. Not married to the thought but I don't think I vote him today.
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Oh lol I'm smart I promiseJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:59 pm To be clear: the sleepwalker cannot actually claim. The role is uninformed of their condition.
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You misunderstanding how I play the game is how I see it.
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Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:58 pmHe also claimed a named role, one that is ultimately negative utility for town, so makes sense to claim. Regardless of that, I'd be pretty surprised to find Ilario scum here. He's been actively trying to find other town and seems excited about it. The way he's talking to me feels like town finding town, not buddying mafia, that would almost feel mean lol (maybe I'm naive about that in particular). In any case, unless he's cc'd why not just have him town imo. Not that he should necessarily be cc'd if he's lying =)falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:25 pmThese posts in particular are what I'm talking about, feels like Ilario is playin' a soft cuddly game
Lmaoo I was just messing around with the claim. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think the sleepwalker knows who they are?
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Well, I still town read Ilario pretty firmly. I'm sure he's a good player, but the vibing is stronk.
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Also dyslexicon just said something that made me even more townier than soa for me
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Okay maybe not more than soa, but Atleast the same
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How do you play the game?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:02 pmYou misunderstanding how I play the game is how I see it.
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Yes, I was corrected. I'm sorry, I usually don't pay all that much attention to setups unless it's very role heavy. I prefer to solve the game looking past mechanics, unless there are obvious ways to game a specific setup.
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I don't think it's fruitful to try to read NAA on the level of behavior, because he writes posts of a design that tends to preclude such assessment. I am content with him as long as his view of the game aligns closely enough with mine that it is suggestive of the same alignment. So far he's exactly fine. His stances have been okay. I just need more of them.
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sig's only substantive post is to gripe about a role claim.
I cannot say that inspires me.
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Teach me, old pal, angel of my life - how do you?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:02 pmYou misunderstanding how I play the game is how I see it.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d1
@ilario You can call me Dizzy, if you please. Everybody does. ^^
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d1
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:58 pmHe also claimed a named role, one that is ultimately negative utility for town, so makes sense to claim. Regardless of that, I'd be pretty surprised to find Ilario scum here. He's been actively trying to find other town and seems excited about it. The way he's talking to me feels like town finding town, not buddying mafia, that would almost feel mean lol (maybe I'm naive about that in particular). In any case, unless he's cc'd why not just have him town imo. Not that he should necessarily be cc'd if he's lying =)falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:25 pmThese posts in particular are what I'm talking about, feels like Ilario is playin' a soft cuddly game
The part where he says “not buddying mafia , that would almost feel mean lol (maybe I'm naive about that in particular“
Is the moment where I townlocked dyslexicon into never rescind until lylo category
To explain why: I feel like both our trs on each other is more of an emotional read/matching of vibes as opposed to something tangible that’s happened in game. I normally love when I successfully pocket people as mafia for game related reasons but if I feel like someone’s read on me is based on an emotional level then I feel guilty about it if I’m mafia and they’re town. This is why you will almost never see me resort to using ate as mafia to convince people because I don’t feel good about playing that way. So when dyslexicon says that my approach would feel almost mean it really does match up with my own feelings about the game and it’s principles in general that I just can’t help but townlock him here
Honestly I wouldn’t even be mad if I end up wrong on this read because It’s been a while that I’ve trd someone strongly and ended up flat out wrong and feelings like that make the game worthy replaying so I don’t even mind if I’m wrong here.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d1
Okay will dooDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:10 pm @ilario You can call me Dizzy, if you please. Everybody does. ^^
It was way too hard typing your name out over and over lol
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d1
Okay.
In your initial response to my first question, why did you single out axehole as someone whose posts needed to be digested?
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d1
I said him and Falcon initially. Except for Falcon's interactions with me helped get a better grasp of him so there was that.
Axe I just remember seeing his name and the Leafs sig usually sticks in my mind.
I was thinking I was missing out on reading a specific person and JJJ mentioned Sig, who had only 4 posts that had no impact.
So it was just the fact that his existence this game escaped my mind entirely.
So Sig would've also been mentioned had I remembered him.
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