Fleabag Mafia mafia win

[Dyslexicon]

If Jimmay is mafia, I wouldn't know. Is what I'm feeling.

[Marmot]

I'm also trying to decide if Dizzy is scum who was planning on turboing anyone who cc'd him, but wasn't expecting it to be Sloonei, an already confirmed town.

This makes absolutely no sense lol. Watcher was either outed or had proved they wouldn't cc a fake. I felt that it was safe. I wasn't planning on keeping the claim, just wanted something to happen, and a fight between G-Man and Johanna I thought could be interesting. Felt like I had to start fresh in a way, but I didn't really plan the claim through outside thinking that it was safe enough to do

Fair

[JaggedJimmyJay]

It might scare people when I say this, but I think it should be said anyway:

One of the biggest benefits of Sloonei being poisoned is that it should help you sort me. Either I'm as town as I look, or I am fleecing Sloonei for the first time in a decade.

The streak is alive.

[Marmot]

Or myself, NAA (he might've had a fruit vendor claim at the time), or you for that matter.

I could see SPF swapping Tony for NAA just by virtue of claim dynamics. In purely logical terms that'd probably be a wise move. I think I'd view NAA as a last resort though. It's still hard to find teammates.

Is that based on his treatment of them, or vice versa, or strictly the composite of the two?

[Marmot]

It might scare people when I say this, but I think it should be said anyway:

One of the biggest benefits of Sloonei being poisoned is that it should help you sort me. Either I'm as town as I look, or I am fleecing Sloonei for the first time in a decade.

The streak is alive.

I haven't said as much, but that's exactly how I've felt tbh. I think I'm willing to die on that hill if both Sloonei and spf trust you and are town.

But I'll give Sloonei 48 hours to change his mind.

[Dyslexicon]

To me, it sounds like a townie-mindmeld type of deal, but it seems to have more impact on you than that.

It does. Maybe if you read back to when I feel like we found each other. Or how that read has stayed for me. Even me talking about this now is part of this.

Maybe I'll iso Ilario to try and look at "non-emotional" reasons for a read, but I can't see myself coming out of that not town reading him tbh

[Marmot]

Ok, I've gotta run. Be back later.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Or myself, NAA (he might've had a fruit vendor claim at the time), or you for that matter.

I could see SPF swapping Tony for NAA just by virtue of claim dynamics. In purely logical terms that'd probably be a wise move. I think I'd view NAA as a last resort though. It's still hard to find teammates.

Is that based on his treatment of them, or vice versa, or strictly the composite of the two?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by the question, but to attempt to answer:

I don't get the impression SPF was super confident about Tony sans-claim, and there's a decent chance she'd feel the same way about NAA now. Without the solidity of a claim in his pocket, we'd be irresponsible to dismiss NAA as a suspect even if I don't view him as a very likely candidate.

[Dyslexicon]

It might scare people when I say this, but I think it should be said anyway:

One of the biggest benefits of Sloonei being poisoned is that it should help you sort me. Either I'm as town as I look, or I am fleecing Sloonei for the first time in a decade.

The streak is alive.

I do think you're town, first of all.

One question: How long is it since you randed mafia against Sloonei?

[Dyslexicon]

Ilario, Marmot and Jimmay are still town to me. Sue me.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

One question: How long is it since you randed mafia against Sloonei?

Technically: 2019 GOC (we were both mafia on separate teams and correctly identified each other as mafia)

Semi-technically: A random game we played on Bulbagarden: I semi-fooled him on Day 1, but only by hard-bussing my teammate (then got shot by an SK on night 1)

In a normal game: Maybe Mountain Mafia here? I can't remember a different one. He caught me handily there.

Honorable mention: When I was an SK myself in GY!BE mafia, I believe he was onto the fact that I was off at least.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

It's remarkable not only how consistently we find each other as town (Sloonei and I), but how often we are town. The random generators just give us the greens over and over and over.

[Dyslexicon]

One question: How long is it since you randed mafia against Sloonei?

Technically: 2019 GOC (we were both mafia on separate teams and correctly identified each other as mafia)

Semi-technically: A random game we played on Bulbagarden: I semi-fooled him on Day 1, but only by hard-bussing my teammate (then got shot by an SK on night 1)

In a normal game: Maybe Mountain Mafia here? I can't remember a different one. He caught me handily there.

Honorable mention: When I was an SK myself in GY!BE mafia, I believe he was onto the fact that I was off at least.

Thanks. Yeah, my feeling is that the first triad was just clean from the start.

[Dyslexicon]

It's remarkable not only how consistently we find each other as town (Sloonei and I), but how often we are town. The random generators just give us the greens over and over and over.

BUT WHY IS MAFIA NOT DEAD YET

[JaggedJimmyJay]

It's remarkable not only how consistently we find each other as town (Sloonei and I), but how often we are town. The random generators just give us the greens over and over and over.

BUT WHY IS MAFIA NOT DEAD YET

Undecided between 1) we suck and maf good or 2) we good and unlucky (e.g. strong POE but picking two wrong names from it)

[Dyslexicon]

@ilario and @Dyslexicon could each of you please talk a bit about how you've found each other in this game and what has bolstered your confidence?

I was gonna answer this question and then I scrolled down and saw dizzys answer and he pretty much summed up how I was feeling

SEE ILARIO WILL NEVER FAIL ME HE WON'T

[Dyslexicon]

I THINK I'LL JUST HAVE TO ALL CAPS FOR THE REST OF THE GAME

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@ilario and @Dyslexicon could each of you please talk a bit about how you've found each other in this game and what has bolstered your confidence?

I was gonna answer this question and then I scrolled down and saw dizzys answer and he pretty much summed up how I was feeling

SEE ILARIO WILL NEVER FAIL ME HE WON'T

You might well be right, but it would probably be a good idea to expect more than that kind of delayed mindmeld.

[Dyslexicon]

Reading Lime's posts, knowing he was town makes me sad

[Dyslexicon]

Reading Lime's posts, knowing he was town makes me sad

As in regret

[JaggedJimmyJay]

falcon kinda fell off of the face of the earth

[Dyslexicon]

You might well be right, but it would probably be a good idea to expect more than that kind of delayed mindmeld.

My immediate emotional response to this was: "You don't understand!" I don't know if I can explain it better than I already have. And now I feel like I have so much riding on this and I'm already in an all caps mood.

[Dyslexicon]

falcon kinda fell off of the face of the earth

Falcon and Dolby on the bottom of my list right now.

I'm actually far behind (page 33 lol)

[ilario]

It might help me. I am more willing to listen to that kind of thing than many would be.

Ok. It's about my read on Ilario. This kind of emotional read doesn't exist if I'm mafia, and it's not something I fake. I don't fake and encourage that kind of emotional connection as mafia, especially towards a player that is new to me. I do think that would be kind of... I don't know what word to use, but not like me. It's not that I don't believe it's not within the bounds of the game to do that, but it's just not something I would encourage. I'm averse to thinking he's doing that exact thing to me, although if he does, I'm not mad about it, and it's completely fine in a mafia game. I just think most people wouldn't. So that's that. Unless of course, you think we're both mafia lol. Which would be funny, but we're not.

Also, in general terms, if I'm town, I bring a good energy to the game, and as mafia I can't bring that (and often I actually bring a sour energy to the game that makes the game harder on everyone, though it's not always clear where that energy comes from lol (this some deep self meta for you)). I'd say more, but I think that's enough for now =p

I'm uncertain of what you mean by "an emotional read". Could you explain that a little more, or even point to what you mean if you've explained that already?

To me, it sounds like a townie-mindmeld type of deal, but it seems to have more impact on you than that.

nah it goes both ways lol, ive only had one game with dizzy and hes already one of my fav people to play fm with

also, can someone pls cc tsp cos i really dont believe any of his claims and think hes probs mafia for not being poisoned

[ilario]

Fwiw, I came around to just dropping the jjj tinfoil yesterday after his interaction with NAA

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Ilario, Marmot and Jimmay are still town to me. Sue me.

Are you comfortable saying that four mafia exist here:

Dolby
falcon
G-Man
Johanna
NAA
SoA

[Dyslexicon]

Like, I get all happy just from Ilario showing up. Maybe I'm too deep in it, but fuck it, he's just town, I just know it.

Also, what's the reasons for him not being town anyway? Except game's hard.

I hope this doesn't annoy people now lol

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Fwiw, I came around to just dropping the jjj tinfoil yesterday after his interaction with NAA

What was it about that interaction that made you feel that way?

[Dyslexicon]

Ilario, Marmot and Jimmay are still town to me. Sue me.

Are you comfortable saying that four mafia exist here:

Dolby
falcon
G-Man
Johanna
NAA
SoA

I think that's pretty much exactly where I'm at.

[ilario]

Fwiw, I came around to just dropping the jjj tinfoil yesterday after his interaction with NAA

What was it about that interaction that made you feel that way?

It was your entire reaction to him being rude to you and trying to start a wagon on you eod

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Like, I get all happy just from Ilario showing up. Maybe I'm too deep in it, but fuck it, he's just town, I just know it.

Also, what's the reasons for him not being town anyway? Except game's hard.

I hope this doesn't annoy people now lol

It doesn't annoy me. If ilario is mafia he's played a fantastic game -- better yet than a strong mafia showing in the MURYM game last month. I don't have some clear or coherent case.

The reason I am exploring this so thoroughly is that the best argument I can come up with for either of you to be mafia is that you trust each other unconditionally for reasons I cannot entirely understand.

This is a game where mafia can town read each other and cruise when it starts at 11 vs. 4. I was also thinking of SoA as being a part of that situation.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think that's pretty much exactly where I'm at.

If so, gotta drop one more to lock the game.

[Dyslexicon]

Also, I don't know if I need to know that all four mafia exists there right now, Jimmay. I just need ONE to start with, but I've been saying that the past days too. But it feels like we've just gotten unlucky.

[ilario]

Like, I get all happy just from Ilario showing up. Maybe I'm too deep in it, but fuck it, he's just town, I just know it.

Also, what's the reasons for him not being town anyway? Except game's hard.

I hope this doesn't annoy people now lol

Lmaoooo I got sad when I saw u claim watcher because that meant u were gonna die soon

Also, fun fact, I set my alarm exactly to when the day started Incase tsp was poisoned because I was gonna claim watcher on him just like u did lol

But then I slept in and tsp didn’t even get poisoned

[ilario]

Anyways I gtg classs illl be on laterrrr

[Dyslexicon]

Like, I get all happy just from Ilario showing up. Maybe I'm too deep in it, but fuck it, he's just town, I just know it.

Also, what's the reasons for him not being town anyway? Except game's hard.

I hope this doesn't annoy people now lol

It doesn't annoy me. If ilario is mafia he's played a fantastic game -- better yet than a strong mafia showing in the MURYM game last month. I don't have some clear or coherent case.

The reason I am exploring this so thoroughly is that the best argument I can come up with for either of you to be mafia is that you trust each other unconditionally for reasons I cannot entirely understand.

This is a game where mafia can town read each other and cruise when it starts at 11 vs. 4. I was also thinking of SoA as being a part of that situation.

Alright. I don't know what to say to this other than we're not mafia. I think I'm clearly town as well, though I realise the game is hard. Anarch has been dropping pretty heavily for me, and I think it's time me and Ilario had a staff meeting about it actually.

[ilario]

Like, I get all happy just from Ilario showing up. Maybe I'm too deep in it, but fuck it, he's just town, I just know it.

Also, what's the reasons for him not being town anyway? Except game's hard.

I hope this doesn't annoy people now lol

It doesn't annoy me. If ilario is mafia he's played a fantastic game -- better yet than a strong mafia showing in the MURYM game last month. I don't have some clear or coherent case.

The reason I am exploring this so thoroughly is that the best argument I can come up with for either of you to be mafia is that you trust each other unconditionally for reasons I cannot entirely understand.

This is a game where mafia can town read each other and cruise when it starts at 11 vs. 4. I was also thinking of SoA as being a part of that situation.

To answer this before I go,

The best way to explain it from my POV is how u read sloonei. To an outsider it doesn’t make sense and it feels like we’re missing something. I assume it amounts to nothing less than a soul read because u have very similar philosophies about how the game should be played as either alignment and your approach to it as both, and that ur mentalities are similar in that regard. I felt the same feeling with dizzy

[Dyslexicon]

Lmaoooo I got sad when I saw u claim watcher because that meant u were gonna die soon

Also, fun fact, I set my alarm exactly to when the day started Incase tsp was poisoned because I was gonna claim watcher on him just like u did lol

But then I slept in and tsp didn’t even get poisoned

Lol, I feel like JimmaySloon =p

[Dyslexicon]

I repeat, I feel like JimmaySloon

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'll think about it, thanks gang. I might struggle to stomach a dynamic similar to Sloonei/Jay (10 years) existing for Dizzy/ilario (2 game cycles), but sure soul reads happen.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'd love to hear what anyone else thinks of Dizzy and ilario specifically for their relationship in this game.

[Dyslexicon]

Jimmay doesn't want me to have nice things

[Dyslexicon]

I'd love to hear what anyone else thinks of Dizzy and ilario specifically for their relationship in this game.

This, I'm interested in

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Regardless, if you're both on the same team then starting post game I shall dub you Dyslario.

[Dyslexicon]

Regardless, if you're both on the same team then starting post game I shall dub you Dyslario.

Can we have that be Dizlario. Feels nicer.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'll run it by my staff.

[Dyslexicon]

this might be out of pocket for me to say as someone with little experience with marmot, but i have been getting the impression (in the last few pages especially) that marmot is outside of his wolfrange. am i right to feel that way?

Want to bring this up again, cause I've been feeling the same way about this.

[Marmot]

Regardless, if you're both on the same team then starting post game I shall dub you Dyslario.

Can we have that be Dizlario. Feels nicer.

I need a townie soul mate

Yo TSP!

[Dyslexicon]

Is coffee the most advertised (free advertising) addictive substance on the market?

I think it is. Everywhere you go people tell you about their addiction regardless of time of day, or activity.

I've had my coffee
Haven't had my coffee
Not enough coffee
I need more coffee
Can I have coffee this late in the day?

It's crazy.

This is a scum post if I ever saw one

[JaggedJimmyJay]

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