Fleabag Mafia mafia win

[falcon45ca]

what is GTH?

Gun To Head.



You've got a few posts lately that seem, let's say less than genuine, IMO re: player's not being present, etc. Am I being paranoid, or do you feel you should be free of suspicion?

[Johanna]

Well, they are genuine.

I'd say you being paranoid would entail me being otherwise clear of suspicion so I'm not sure what the question is.

I genuinely would prefer it if everyone came in and dropped at least a post before we hammered: I'm glad you did.

That doesn't mean it's gonna change anything, it's just personally not comfortable for me.

[Johanna]

I mean obviously I know what your question is.

Generally I think nobody can be beyond suspicion in a game of MAfia. What speaks loudest in my favour was my prompt vote for SoA yesterday and my repeated insistence that they were my preferred chop. If that's not enough,

It's not much but it's what I've got.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If anyone has any final questions or concerns or requests for analysis or whatever for me, be sure to cram 'em in my face before I drop dead.

[falcon45ca]

Well, they are genuine.

I'd say you being paranoid would entail me being otherwise clear of suspicion so I'm not sure what the question is.

I genuinely would prefer it if everyone came in and dropped at least a post before we hammered: I'm glad you did.

That doesn't mean it's gonna change anything, it's just personally not comfortable for me.

What are your thoughts on TSP?

[falcon45ca]

If anyone has any final questions or concerns or requests for analysis or whatever for me, be sure to cram 'em in my face before I drop dead.

TSP plz

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Haha, I'm confirmed town. I'm not even on the poll for people who really want to tinfoil. Haha I'm invincible. Haha I claim mafia. I'm on the mafia team. Haha whoa. Wowee. What a thing. Haha.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If anyone has any final questions or concerns or requests for analysis or whatever for me, be sure to cram 'em in my face before I drop dead.

TSP plz

Without a counter-claimed fruit vendor, I view Tony as confirmed town without any concern at all. I also think his play very closely aligns to what I'd expect from a literal fruit vending Tony.

[falcon45ca]

If anyone has any final questions or concerns or requests for analysis or whatever for me, be sure to cram 'em in my face before I drop dead.

TSP plz

Without a counter-claimed fruit vendor, I view Tony as confirmed town without any concern at all. I also think his play very closely aligns to what I'd expect from a literal fruit vending Tony.

This is now Tony's job IRL for me, never gonna change

[Marmot]

That tends to be my view as well, Johanna. I would probably feel stronger if falcon hadn't joined the vanishing club.

Sometimes I drink a lot of vodka...and whisky....and tequila

And you aren't even a Bengals' fan.

[falcon45ca]

That tends to be my view as well, Johanna. I would probably feel stronger if falcon hadn't joined the vanishing club.

Sometimes I drink a lot of vodka...and whisky....and tequila

And you aren't even a Bengals' fan.

Nope, Atlanta Falcon's in the NFL, Saskatchewan Roughriders in the CFL.



Vancouver Canucks in the NHL, Toronto Raptors in the NBA, New York Yankees in the MLB, and Tottenham Hotspur in the Premier League

[Marmot]

Note on my experience with falcon as mafia.

In Elder Squirrels Mafia, falcon and I were partners. He was very sharp Day 1 onward, and even went out of his way multiple occassions to throw suspicion on all of his scummates, including me. (Kyle may have been an exception, I forget, but Mac and I drew a lot of his attention). Falcon was eventually yeeted, I think on Day 5, mostly because his activity waned and he didn't even post or vote the day he was yeeted.

[Johanna]

Well, they are genuine.

I'd say you being paranoid would entail me being otherwise clear of suspicion so I'm not sure what the question is.

I genuinely would prefer it if everyone came in and dropped at least a post before we hammered: I'm glad you did.

That doesn't mean it's gonna change anything, it's just personally not comfortable for me.

What are your thoughts on TSP?

As long as there is no counterclaim, he's to all effects confirmed town.

So there's that.

Spoiler: show

JumpyJohnnyJake was more eloquent though

[Marmot]

Sig's defensive reaction ain't good... Kinda yikes if ya ask me.

Redundant. If it ain't good, you don't need to also tell us it's yikes.


Why do I feel you're trying to sell me something?

Also I'm thinkin' there's probably a scum in the 0-posters. Not sure if mafia the syndicate is the same, but on mafia scum a ton of folk hate randin' mafia to the point where they'll barely post. It can get pretty annoyin' and well... we've got three guys here not speakin' and I don't feel super bamboozled yet. I think I'm gonna make an enemy out of anyone who comes into the thread now.

Pushing low posters D1? Never seen scum do that before...

[VOTE: Ilario] aubergine

This chop won't happen.
If you had to choose between the people having votes already, who would it be?
Also what's your thoughts on Sig?

Not with that kind of attitude.


GTH sig is town

What’s he done to “earn” your town read?

He hasn't, a GTH read from me is the same as a gut read.


I feel he'd come across more agenda-y if he were Maf

Moments like these make me want to separate falcon from SoA. I haven't been able to pull the trigger since falcon kind of treats everyone like this at least once.

I would say that's pretty standard falcon scum-teammate treatment from my memory.

[Marmot]

JJJ is probably mafia, and mafia decided to kill him instead of town just to toy with us.

[Marmot]

Note on my experience with falcon as mafia.

In Elder Squirrels Mafia, falcon and I were partners. He was very sharp Day 1 onward, and even went out of his way multiple occassions to throw suspicion on all of his scummates, including me. (Kyle may have been an exception, I forget, but Mac and I drew a lot of his attention). Falcon was eventually yeeted, I think on Day 5, mostly because his activity waned and he didn't even post or vote the day he was yeeted.

Correction: falcon was yeeted Day 4, not Day 5.

[Marmot]

Hello! Sorry for my absence so far - I'm reading through the game a little now but will catch up in full tonight when I am settled in and done with errands!

Don't forget to apologize for your absence again when you pop in to tell us you're still catching up on the game!

I want nacho to come post and play too, but this is kind of a passive-aggressive way to request it of him.

@Nachomamma8 come play with us!

It is? Well, fuck.



I was going for just plain ol' aggressive, guess I missed the mark.

This is a post between scum-me and scum-falcon in Elder Squirrels.

hello. i didn't get to see EOD. work has me so swamped. who died

I have a sneaking suspicion that Nanook tagged you (like he did everybody) and you can go check for yourself.



It's D3, derp clears are for D1

I honestly didn't think tags did anything on this site but thanks for the passive-aggression bud

Sorry about that.




I wasn't trying to be passive.

This one is between SoA and falcon in this game.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

JJJ is probably mafia, and mafia decided to kill him instead of town just to toy with us.

Town will never see it coming. Not even the ones that said it.

[Johanna]

JJJ mafia godfather that gets a vote after death. RIP.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I would hesitate to rely on a meta comparison that specific, but sure it shows that at least one post can exist for a mafia falcon. I wouldn't call it an actual tendency without numerous more examples. I think falcon's M.O. makes that post a more predictable one regardless of alignment, when his sarcastic aggression is called "passive-aggressive".

[Marmot]

I'm actually reading falcon's treatment of me as scum in Elder Squirrels Mafia, and it does look different than his handling of players in this game.

I think falcon attempted to look clean in his progression of a read on me in that game, and it worked. In this game, I don't see him trying to look like that.

[Marmot]

I would hesitate to rely on a meta comparison that specific, but sure it shows that at least one post can exist for a mafia falcon. I wouldn't call it an actual tendency without numerous more examples. I think falcon's M.O. makes that post a more predictable one regardless of alignment, when his sarcastic aggression is called "passive-aggressive".

The thing I found curious was his response, not necessarily the initial accusation by a maphier.

But I agree. I think it's falcon's personality to rile people a healthy amount, but not in a mean-spirited way, hence backing down after being accused of passive-aggression.

[Marmot]

Tbh, I'm feeling less convinced about scum-falcon the more I read his iso's from other scum games.

[Marmot]

Is a SoA-Dolby-ilario-Dizzy world conceivable? :wowee:

[Marmot]

SoA treated G-Man almost identically to how he treated NAA. 0 treatment outside of his initial readlist.

But G-Man and NAA handled SoA very differently. NAA had a read that progressed toward a scumread, whereas G-Man stated an initial suspicion of SoA before vacating the suspicion.


I'm definitely not entertaining a scum-Dizzy world unless we end up in lim-lo. Also, I think my new preferred yeet order is:


Dolby => G-Man => falcon => ilario

And honestly, I'd reconsider putting ilario in front of falcon.

[Marmot]

JJJ mafia godfather that gets a vote after death. RIP.

Alternate mafia win-condition: poison the entire triad.

[Johanna]

Oh man, we're screwed.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Is a SoA-Dolby-ilario-Dizzy world conceivable? :wowee:

That was my tinfoil team yesterday. I do think Dizzy is town though.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

It’s kinda dumb but I would kill ilario before falcon just based on ilario not being here while falcon has been.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

It'd be cool if everyone could share their general impressions of the things G-Man has had to say over the past couple day phases, or to point to where they've already said it.

[NotAnAxehole]

OEXRNAAORQRA?ITOORLOR?ODOT?RZTTTNXDZD

[Johanna]

G-Man seems to actually be making an effort but I would need to ISO. I think his initial reads list, which could be qualified as brave, put at least a couple people from the PoE on his town side, and his push on Falcon following the lead of SoA, Dolby, et al. is maybe questionable.

[Dyslexicon]

Did we win?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Kinda feels like it.

[Marmot]

Let me know when you'd like to hammer Jay? I don't have much else to say today, but I know this is your last day.

I'll put it at L-1 whenever you're ready.

[Marmot]

That was an order, not a question.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Let me know when you'd like to hammer Jay? I don't have much else to say today, but I know this is your last day.

I'll put it at L-1 whenever you're ready.

Go ahead. Now is a good time for our European friends.

[NotAnAxehole]

Jesus Christ himself has spoken. End the day.

[NotAnAxehole]

#Clout

[Marmot]

[VOTE: Dobly] aubergine

[Marmot]

Jesus Christ himself has spoken. End the day.

The new game rule is that the poisoned player gets to hammer.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Final legacy:

I believe Dolby will flip mafia. If he somehow does not, then the entire game needs to be reassessed. That doesn't mean we have a free pass to panic; it could still be a reasonably POE-friendly scenario. But it does mean players will have to engage immediately and leave no stones unturned.

If Dolby does flip mafia, then I believe the most likely final two mafia are G-Man and ilario. My stance on that team increases with every minute that ilario doesn't make an appearance in this game. We're all busy sometimes, but we're at 24 hours into Day 4 now. At a certain point avoidance and morale must be considered. Stay the course until there is a good reason apparent that it shouldn't be stayed.

If that is not the team, then falcon would be my first fallback. Try your best regardless townies to stay awake, because if we're wrong anywhere then the best thing the mafia can have happen is for the thread to fall asleep.

Marmot is my top non-confirmed town read. Tony remains confirmed without a counter. Dizzy is my second-strongest town read, followed by NAA and Johanna who are comparable.

[Marmot]

Mafia, please poison NAA so he can hammer tomorrow (whether he's town or not)

[Marmot]

This whole "NK'd player gets to play out the next day as IC" is actually really townsided. Dunno if the whole setup is, but that mechanic is.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Thanks for the game everyone. I hope it goes our way. I appreciate your efforts.

[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME that's hammer.

[Marmot]

Final legacy:

I believe Dolby will flip mafia. If he somehow does not, then the entire game needs to be reassessed. That doesn't mean we have a free pass to panic; it could still be a reasonably POE-friendly scenario. But it does mean players will have to engage immediately and leave no stones unturned.

If Dolby does flip mafia, then I believe the most likely final two mafia are G-Man and ilario. My stance on that team increases with every minute that ilario doesn't make an appearance in this game. We're all busy sometimes, but we're at 24 hours into Day 4 now. At a certain point avoidance and morale must be considered. Stay the course until there is a good reason apparent that it shouldn't be stayed.

If that is not the team, then falcon would be my first fallback. Try your best regardless townies to stay awake, because if we're wrong anywhere then the best thing the mafia can have happen is for the thread to fall asleep.

Marmot is my top non-confirmed town read. Tony remains confirmed without a counter. Dizzy is my second-strongest town read, followed by NAA and Johanna who are comparable.

Heck of a 35,000th post if you ask me.

GG JJJ, let's the rest of us bring home a town win.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@Dolby has died, they flip Harry, MAFIA goon



@JaggedJimmyJay has succumbed to poison, he flips godmother, VT



SOD is approximately september 21, 4pm edt

@Dyslexicon
@falcon45ca
@G-Man
@ilario
@Johanna
@Marmot
@NotAnAxehole
@TonyStarkPrime

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Dolby (5): dizzy, falcon, Jay, axe, Marmot
Falcon (1): g-man
Not voting (4): Dolby, illario, Johanna, tsp

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@TonyStarkPrime has been poisoned and will die at eod

Hammer is 5, eod is september 23, 5pm edt

@Dyslexicon
@falcon45ca
@G-Man
@ilario
@Johanna
@Marmot
@NotAnAxehole

[NotAnAxehole]

Let's hammer and move on.