Baby Mafia (TOWN WIN)

[Luckbox Inc]

Then probably votes her own town read to save LC.

Hopefully I can just convince her to go Esooa.

[EnderWiggin]

Given I have over 24 hours and tomorrow is weekend, and Friday has fucked me hard, I'm just gonna crash probably. I got other things that need my focus and I'm probably gonna die before I have time to think about this game.

You feel you're a NK target?

In this case Die = Collapse on my bed and pass out for like 5 hours.

Nothing about nk there.

[falcon45ca]

Given I have over 24 hours and tomorrow is weekend, and Friday has fucked me hard, I'm just gonna crash probably. I got other things that need my focus and I'm probably gonna die before I have time to think about this game.

You feel you're a NK target?

In this case Die = Collapse on my bed and pass out for like 5 hours.

Nothing about nk there.

Oh jeez, yeah I read that wrong.





In my defense, I'm an idiot

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

[Alison]

I really strongly believe that we should not be voting off the Dizzy wagon today

Oh wow Luck wasn’t on it and not just that isn’t that a scum slip?

Alison is voting Lime who never voted Dizzy.

@Wisp

Alison caught wolf!

Lime is essentially voting Dizzy which was the whole reason I suspected him in the first place. He was essentially making sure Dizzy got killed without actually getting his hands dirty. That is in fact the entire reason why that behavior is scummy.

[Alison]

I have made it extremely clear that I considered Lime part of the group of people responsible for Dizzy's death. You are picking at nits.

[Alison]

Then probably votes her own town read to save LC.

I have been voting LC consistently throughout the entire day phase and don't intend to take my vote off him.

[Alison]

Then probably votes her own town read to save LC.

Hopefully I can just convince her to go Esooa.

You have admitted LC is scummy dude.

[Alison]

@Wisp Why did you sheep Gavial's reads D1?

[Alison]

There is way too much resistance to the Lime Coke wagon. If he is town then mafia would easily sheep the pressure on him to flip him town and then use it to frame me. The fact that the main counterwagon to LC is someone I know for sure is town and is being suspected for literal no reasons (Mizery, falcon) or gamethrow-tier levels of bad reasons (Gavial) suggests that LC is a hit.

[Alison]

The Dizzy wagon was obviously mafia driven and any townie who votes someone who pushed against it and townread Dizzy the entirety of D1 is a clown. The Dizzy wagon contains my exact entire POE along with an honorary wolf (Gavial) and the guy sheeping him for the lols

[Millium]

Town!Alison is going to end up burying herself at this rate
Wolf!Alison is also losing this battle

[falcon45ca]

My POE is just LC/Mizery/Tess/Wisp right now. Nanook slightly above them, and then everyone else is someone I have some reason or other to townread.

I still think Wisp is scum but he must have partners so I'm happy to look into the rest of the POE.

Why was LC scum for you at this stage of the game?

[Alison]

Town!Alison is going to end up burying herself at this rate
Wolf!Alison is also losing this battle

You are wrong about this.

But also answer my question please.

[Alison]

My POE is just LC/Mizery/Tess/Wisp right now. Nanook slightly above them, and then everyone else is someone I have some reason or other to townread.

I still think Wisp is scum but he must have partners so I'm happy to look into the rest of the POE.

Why was LC scum for you at this stage of the game?

Highlighted text.

[Millium]

@Wisp Why did you sheep Gavial's reads D1?

Well for one, I don't sit in this world where Gavial is always a potato
so when u say, "Wisp should no better", you are wrong
Gavial has made some of my wolf games a living hell

Gavial's read in regard to Dizzy talking about a town lean and still leaving his vote there, or w/e it was
felt like busy-body work, and coupled with his wolf game that I just read, and him just not coming back, it made me feel better about my vote
Honestly I may have voted Mizery if Dizzy had actually come back to thread

[Millium]

Town!Alison is going to end up burying herself at this rate
Wolf!Alison is also losing this battle

You are wrong about this.

But also answer my question please.

sorry I didn't even notice there was a second page till I made that post,
I posted my response above

[Gira]

hi i'm here

it occurs to me my screwed up sleep schedule is probably incompatible with playing games at this pace/phase length but i'll try to get my bearings here

[Luckbox Inc]

Then probably votes her own town read to save LC.

Hopefully I can just convince her to go Esooa.

You have admitted LC is scummy dude.

I think Esooa is more scummy, and I also felt like LC was scummy in the team game D1 and was wrong-- so my track record there is 0/1. Esooa meanwhile I have literally never wolf-read until this game.

[Millium]

The Dizzy wagon was obviously mafia driven and any townie who votes someone who pushed against it and townread Dizzy the entirety of D1 is a clown. The Dizzy wagon contains my exact entire POE along with an honorary wolf (Gavial) and the guy sheeping him for the lols

I don't do wagonomics but I still don't believe your PoE is absolute, nor that all wolves were just like
YES BOYS WE CAN KILL DIZZY HERE, LETS HOP ON

[Luckbox Inc]

I have made it extremely clear that I considered Lime part of the group of people responsible for Dizzy's death. You are picking at nits.

I agree with this btw.

Lime made comments about how bad Mizery looked based on the understanding that Mizery is illwei, so there really isn't an excuse for not voting there.

I also think it's interesting the way Lime has treated Mizery since then-- pretty much hard clearing her which seems wrong/tmi.

[Millium]

I have made it extremely clear that I considered Lime part of the group of people responsible for Dizzy's death. You are picking at nits.

I agree with this btw.

Lime made comments about how bad Mizery looked based on the understanding that Mizery is illwei, so there really isn't an excuse for not voting there.

I also think it's interesting the way Lime has treated Mizery since then-- pretty much hard clearing her which seems wrong/tmi.

but yet he was on a vanity wagon

[Gira]

can you quote the comments about how bad she looked, i'm catching up on the stuff i missed last night

[Millium]

honestly
[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

[Gira]

Lime Coke is an outed wolf.

Ouch I thought you would've had me correct at the least.

hm

[Millium]

to be clear I voting LC because
1. His vote on Gavial did nothing yesterday, (it doesn't even seem real honestly)
2. He said he would sit back and analyze it, but has done any such thing yet

Honestly both LC and Wigly, made votes, and just kinda let them die? I can't say for sure in regards to LC
but I certainly know that Wigly has not once talked to me or about me since his vote yesterday, and he hands down killed Dizzy there

also Luck's whole Wigly isn't doing anything, is definitely starting to mean a lot more than when they originally pushed it
because Wigly hasn't done jack squat today. Which is why I have been sitting on Wigly seeing if he would do anything

[Millium]

By the way I was laughing to myself when I saw myself saying "If I get N1'd sheep my reads" last night because holy shit if I manage to have good reads after subbing in and reading while completely drowsy I'd be amazed.

even LC went this route, it feels even worse than Ender saying it

[Luckbox Inc]

Esooa >>>>>> Wilgy/LC >>>>>> Falcon/Mizery

If someone like Ender or Gira are wolves then the game is probably lost barring peeks.

[Gira]

I have made it extremely clear that I considered Lime part of the group of people responsible for Dizzy's death. You are picking at nits.

I agree with this btw.

Lime made comments about how bad Mizery looked based on the understanding that Mizery is illwei, so there really isn't an excuse for not voting there.

I also think it's interesting the way Lime has treated Mizery since then-- pretty much hard clearing her which seems wrong/tmi.

Mizery being Illwei throws my read on them actually because I thought she was wolfy but like....her town game is wolfy in general?

his comment about her being bad is the opposite of what you're saying, he was worried about being wrong on her because of her meta

of course rereading him i kind of hate the level of hesitance he's showing all over again

[falcon45ca]

Esooa >>>>>> Wilgy/LC >>>>>> Falcon/Mizery

If someone like Ender or Gira are wolves then the game is probably lost barring peeks.

Fuck that it is. 'Round here we got what I like to call a no quit attitude. and I'm fine voting Gira any day of this week so far. Firmly in my POE

[Luckbox Inc]

Mizery being Illwei throws my read on them actually because I thought she was wolfy but like....her town game is wolfy in general?

Yeah you're right. I still don't think any of this is a good look for LC though and especially the way the read has evolved today and would like some comment from LC on it.

[Gira]

yeah the way he's responding to alison is bad

[Gira]

i have misread him breaking down from pressure though so

blah

[Millium]

keeping my town lean on Mizery is kinda hard, no lie

[Alison]

@Wisp Why did you sheep Gavial's reads D1?

Well for one, I don't sit in this world where Gavial is always a potato
so when u say, "Wisp should no better", you are wrong
Gavial has made some of my wolf games a living hell

Gavial's read in regard to Dizzy talking about a town lean and still leaving his vote there, or w/e it was
felt like busy-body work, and coupled with his wolf game that I just read, and him just not coming back, it made me feel better about my vote
Honestly I may have voted Mizery if Dizzy had actually come back to thread

So you sheeped Gavial because you think his reads can be on the nose sometimes, and because you agreed with the logic of his read?

[Alison]

to be clear I voting LC because
1. His vote on Gavial did nothing yesterday, (it doesn't even seem real honestly)
2. He said he would sit back and analyze it, but has done any such thing yet

Honestly both LC and Wigly, made votes, and just kinda let them die? I can't say for sure in regards to LC
but I certainly know that Wigly has not once talked to me or about me since his vote yesterday, and he hands down killed Dizzy there

also Luck's whole Wigly isn't doing anything, is definitely starting to mean a lot more than when they originally pushed it
because Wigly hasn't done jack squat today. Which is why I have been sitting on Wigly seeing if he would do anything

Don't forget that he threw away the Gavial scumread entirely based on a preflip of me not being W/W with Gavial.

[Millium]

yes, hate it or love it, that's what I did
I was wrong, life goes on

[Alison]

Esooa >>>>>> Wilgy/LC >>>>>> Falcon/Mizery

If someone like Ender or Gira are wolves then the game is probably lost barring peeks.

Why is Gira cleared to the extent that if he is a wolf the game is lost?

[Gira]

keeping my town lean on Mizery is kinda hard, no lie

Alison W, Luck W

you're not kidding

[Alison]

I think Mizery isn't that scummy now.

[Gira]

i'd more qusetion luckbox's conviction on ender because i'd say while he's been fine i can't point to anything he's said that's overtly town and he could just be tryhard scum, and his posts i'm reading while catching up aren't particularly doing much for me

[Gira]

@EnderWiggin

You know my game, you've literally read all of my games as either alignment. You should know I'm town here if you read my game.

If you have questions, let me know.

@Gira

Same with you.

ah, you bstard

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Luck] aubergine

[Gira]

Hold on did i say a post of wisps was bad earlier or was it gira

either way wisp still v so im just reminding myself

Explain why Wisp is V.

the way he was flopping about at the end of day 1 and contradicting previous stances while letting others influence his voting felt like legitiate indecision rather than the posting of someone who is concerned with optics and maintaining consistent positioning

it's somewhere in the opposite of lime coke's "buhh i don't know" posting

[Gira]

needa check how lime coke played in buckets at some point

[Millium]

for my own sanity's sake, I am moving Ender and Falcon down on my list

[falcon45ca]

for my own sanity's sake, I am moving Ender and Falcon down on my list

You have sanity?




Bragger

[Gira]

i think alison is likely town atp

[Luckbox Inc]

Esooa >>>>>> Wilgy/LC >>>>>> Falcon/Mizery

If someone like Ender or Gira are wolves then the game is probably lost barring peeks.

Why is Gira cleared to the extent that if he is a wolf the game is lost?

Because I would want to kill all of those other people ahead of him and there aren't enough days left in the game to do that, ofc

[Gira]

wilgy had one post today that i thought was towny. there's been little pings with him but nothing like a cohesive body of work that would lead me to put him as a town read


i pretty much agree with what luckbox is saying about esooa, with the caveat that i've seen her be lazy as town before, but this doesn't feel like town laziness. also me disliking her scumreading me is egocentric as she called me town easily in our last game together but it is what it is

i am actually reading recent games from lime coke and i feel like i may have a meta tell on him that makes him scum here, lmao. not gonna say it but hilarious if it's true